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Re: [rosacea] Questions for Lilly S.

I think it increased "gut transit time" and cleared out the fermenting
bacteria a bit. I tend to improve anytime I change my diet radically,
which also happens to cause a little disruption commonly called
"diarrhea" (or at least moderately faster transit time..). Sorry if
that was gross! Bacteria naturally ferment food in the digestive
tract, and I think it may be a bit of an underlying trigger for me.
Just a guess, though!

Cheers!

Artist

--- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "gabri_gallo"
<gabri_gallo@...> wrote:
>
> Artist, what are your ideas as to why Paragone helped temporarily?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gabriella
>
>
>
> --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, "nurse_artist"
> <nurse_artist@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sherrell-Lynn: I'll throw my opinion in here and I'm totally
> fine
> > if you take it or leave it. It's just my opinion :) Anyway, the
> > current research findings and overall thinking is that antibiotics
> > help rosacea because of their anti-inflammatory effects (not their
> > anti-bacterial effects). Oral antibiotics can be extremely helpful
> for
> > many (not all) with rosacea. In addition, there are a multitude of
> > topical medications that can be very effective long-term. A
> > dermatologist looks at your rosacea and decides the order in which
> to
> > try them and figure out the one your skin needs. It does take time
> and
> > patience, however. Remember, treatments for rosacea generally take
> > about two months to start working. When they do, however, you will
> really know it.
> >
> > There is no cure for rosacea. It's a skin condition that persists if
> > not treated properly. Some have posted in the past that parasite
> > and/or bowel cleanses have been somewhat helpful, and others report
> no
> > effect. I tried "paragone" years ago, and I do think it helped
> > temporarily, for maybe a few days, but it was by no means a cure. I
> > still have rosacea but it's under good control with my skin care
> > routine, Tetracycline, Finacea, occasional IPL treatments, and Red
> > Light Therapy.
> >
> > In my opinion, doing a cleanse, eating a healthy diet, adding
> > probiotics, being positive, and decreasing stress are all very good
> for rosacea, but you may likely need to treat it in the long term. It
> does sound like you have had an unusual amount of stress lately.
> Hopefully your rosacea calms down a lot once the stressful situation
> calms down (and I hope it does for you soon, you poor dear!)
> >
> > A good way to start is by identifying major triggers and finding a
> > gentle skin care routine (and seeing your dermatologist, of
> course!).
> >
> > What do you use on your skin to cleanse and moisturize? What are
> your
> > major rosacea triggers?
> >
> > I just don't want you to be disappointed if the current plan doesn't
> > work the way you might have hoped :( I do hope it does, and be sure
> > to check in often for support and to share what helps you (or
> doesn't)
> > along the way.
> >
> > All the best!
> >
> > Artist
> > Not medical advice. Ask your doctor first.
> >
> > --- In rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com, Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
> > <deputyfred1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lilly,
> > >
> > > I am on board with you 100%. I don't know of any other bacterial
> > infection that doctors prescribe antibiotics just to "suppress" it.
> > Maybe there are some out there but they are unkown to me. I know
> for
> > the last 3 yrs I have been under an astronomical amount of stress.
> > There were some very terrible personal experiences that sent me
> > sprialing into a deep depression and the tragedy that fell upon us
> led
> > to financial ruin. I won't bore anyone with my mess, for I know we
> > all have our own trials and tribulations. However, all the stress,
> > and the medications I have been given over the last 3 yrs combined
> > with the poor diet and poor nutrition, no sleep, etc, etc, I think
> my
> > body is reacting to the lack of care it has been given. I can't
> speak
> > for everyone else, but I think cleansing my body, ridding it of the
> > artificial crap, and impurities that I have poured into it, I think
> it
> > will definitely help if not rid myself of this roseca altogether.
> > > Doctors would disagree but if certain vitamins can help fend off
> > cancer why can't cleansing my body all all the impurities help clear
> > up a skin condition? I have already started a parasite cleansing
> > program, stopped drinking soda and replacing that with pure water
> and
> > green tea. I am starting chloryphyll tablets today and I am taking
> > probiotics. With a change in diet and caring for myself for a
> change,
> > it can only lead to good health. I will keep my progress posted in
> > hopes it will give someone else another alternative and maybe even
> be
> > an answer. I think I am beginning to really see that if we dont take
> > care of our bodies, our bodies simply can't take care of us. We
> abuse
> > our bodies everyday and don't even realize it. I am choosing to
> stop
> > that cycle of abuse and treat myself with respect and care. hey, who
> > knows, it just might be the answer.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your support and advice. I will post my progress. And
> > good luck to all who suffer this and any other noncurable disease!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Sherrell-Lynn
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Lilly Samur <lilllsam@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lilly Samur <lilllsam@>
> > > Subject: Re: [rosacea] Questions for Lilly S.
> > > To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 3:18 PM
> > >
> > > Tetracycline doesn't treat Rosacea - it's just suppress it and
> that way
> > > makes it chronicle. I was on Tet for more then 3 years and in the
> > end Rosacea
> > > adjust to it and it stopped work at all. Same with metronidazol -
> > multiple
> > > studies found that Rosacea resist it. For me it never worked.
> > > I actually heard from one derm in Europe that Tetracycline (and
> > like) may be
> > > the cause of "superinfection" (unfriendly bacteria overgrow) that
> > > cause Rosacea. Anybody knows something about it? I know that it's
> effect
> > > intestinal immunity (they say 80% of our immunity in intestens?).
> So
> > maybe to
> > > fix immunity related desese (including Rosacea) we should start
> from
> > fixing our
> > > intestens? Do some cleansing, antiparasite and take some
> probiotics?
> > > And funnies thing - that antibiotics I mention thats all derm in
> USA
> > would
> > > prescribe. Why they prescribe something that is not working - I
> have
> > no idea.
> > > Most of them (that I spok) know about Rosacea less then I do. Last
> > time when I
> > > had bad outbreak (before my treatment) and I saw derm - she told
> me
> > - it's
> > > not going to get any better, will get only worst with time... She
> > prescribe me
> > > same antibiotics and Differin (which my insurance didn't cover
> and I pay
> > > crazy money for it and which make me break out like crazy after
> first
> > > application and took a month to fix that). So now I agree - if I
> > follow her
> > > treatment it could probably get only worst. I'm glad I found my
> way
> > out and
> > > I wish it to everyone. I know everybody have different skin type
> and
> > Rosacea
> > > case and have to find their way out and I hope you all do. Just
> take
> > your health
> > > to your own hands, do your research, demand from docs treatment
> > change, stay
> > > up-to-date etc. My grandma (who was herbalist, same like my mom)
> use
> > to say -
> > > Doctors will help you if you know how to help your self.
> > > I agree.
> > > Good luck,
> > > Lilly
> > >
> >
>





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Artist, what are your ideas as to why Paragone helped temporarily? Thanks! Gabriella ... fine ... for ... to ... and ... really know it. ... no ... for...
gabri_gallo
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Nov 21, 2008
12:24 am

I think it increased "gut transit time" and cleared out the fermenting bacteria a bit. I tend to improve anytime I change my diet radically, which also happens...
nurse_artist
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Nov 21, 2008
12:38 am

Hi Sherrell-Lynn, First off let me say I love your name. It's very pretty and feminine. Sounds as though you are quite miserable and not sure what would be...
DAVID LEE DURHAM
squrlee
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Nov 15, 2008
3:49 am

Thank you so very much for taking the time to write to me. And thank you for the compliment on my name. it is a special name to me becuase Sherrell was my...
Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
deputyfred1
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Nov 16, 2008
2:53 am

One suggestion, for perhaps temporary relief, is to soak a washcloth in richly steeped chamomile tea. It's very soothing, calming and smells good to boot....
Michele Gerstel Coste...
Positive4Life
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Nov 17, 2008
4:40 am

Hi Sherrell-Lynn. Have you checked the Ocular Rosacea section in those useful resources pages that are updated every month? I've added the link below that...
lisamouries
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Nov 17, 2008
2:17 pm

Because you have ocular involvement you should also be seeing an opthimologist - not just a derm If you can make that argument successfully you may just get...
khm4aim
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Nov 16, 2008
11:21 am

Thank you for your advice. I have never hear for Oracea or Periostat. I am defintely going to ask my derm about going on one of those in place of the...
Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
deputyfred1
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Nov 16, 2008
11:08 pm

Both of these are low level versions of tetracycline - they do the job with much less side effects. Also, I do believe you should request an appointment with...
khm4aim
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Nov 17, 2008
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Again, thank you. It helps to know that I'm not just being "crazy" about this thing. I too feel my derm is not taking this condition seriously enough and he is...
Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
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