And I have too slightly disagree with Artist - because it sound like typical
look to Rosacea from "official" perspective - there is not treatment, suppress
it with Tetracycline so you can show your face out. Burn your skin with topical
stuff and IPL, so skin is gone together with Rosacea... Exactly was I was doing
for many years. But all I try to say - I have different experience and when it
works - you know immediatelly. I'm Rosacea Free (here is my photo in attachment
- last month and another one in 2006 with Rosacea and tons of makeup which
couldn't cover it) and I also helped my sister and couple friends to find way
out. - just by sharing years of my knowledge ans research and trying on my self
(Thats what we all doing here - right?)
I had worst Rosacea case EVER - with not only redness but bumps all around,
ocular Rosacea, swelling, hit and burning etc.  which was not possible to cover
with any makeup. 
My skin was absolute mess - all red and bumpy, peeling from all topical stuff,
my eyelashes was faling fron ocular Rosacea, face was red and swelling all the
time, I couldn't look at mirror - if I meet friend they was asking whats going
on with my face. I remember even comming to work and my boss ask me what is
wrong and if I'm ok - I felt dipressed, hopeless and sick of spending money on
all kind of new creams etc - that claim to be Rosacea Treatment.
Official medicine say there is no treatment - because they don't know how to
treat it. So it's logical to try something different that doctors able to offer.
IPL is temporary solution as well because it's doesn't treat the cause which is
somewhere inside the body - not on top layer of your skin thats for sure. I have
a friend, she is plastic surgeon and when I wanted to do IPL etc she basically
told me to do not waste my money because its will be back anyway and will come
even stronger ... If anybody knows somebody who got treated with IPL and now
Rosacea free - I would like to hear that story.
Yes, most antibiotics anti-inflammatory - but taking for long time coming with
price of destroying your natural immunity and get stuck in that circle. Bad
immunity - bad skin, bad skin - more antibiotics.
I didn't say BTW - don't take oral antibiotics - all I said - try something
different and short time effective treatment - don't let your self get depended
on antibiotics and go for years with hope it will work one day if not today. The
antibiotics I mentioned in this discussion before - I took for 2 weeks only.
Then all another supplements I mentioned previously - since then - NO SINGLE
ANTIBIOTIC was taking or applied topically on my skin.
And it's didn't take me 2 months to see results (2 month of treatment - then see
result? sound like no result, if medicine you are taking doesn't effect whatever
cause Rosacea on  week1 why would it start to effect it after 2 months?). I
started to feel difference on day 4 with antibiotics I was taking (so I could
tell - it was working) and of course I was using topical stuff I mentioned
before (which was non-antibiotic and all natural) and after 2 weeks it was
significant improvement - I could go out without makeup (though I still had few
bumps deep under the skin - it took some time for them to go away but I could
feel they was not active and was slowly disappearing).
And One one thing that I notice - been outside and see some SUN every day
significantly improve skin overall. Maybe has to do with sun rays kill most
harmful bacteria and fungi etc. And what I notice - people with Rosacea usually
homebodies and don't show their face to sun a lot. I think it can be good and
cheaper replacement for IPL and Red light therapy LOL.
Anyway I was out last 2 summers everyday and in winter I'm tanning twice a week
for 10 min. each, which I couldn't do for many years with Rosacea and taking
walks for 40 min everyday.
Good luck everybody - explore and find what is good for you - we all very
individual but we all connected to nature with our everything, so don't turn
your back on natural treatments.
 
 

--- On Wed, 11/19/08, nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...> wrote:

From: nurse_artist <nurse_artist@...>
Subject: Re: [rosacea] Questions for Lilly S.
To: rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 6:17 PM






Hi Sherrell-Lynn: I'll throw my opinion in here and I'm totally fine
if you take it or leave it. It's just my opinion :) Anyway, the
current research findings and overall thinking is that antibiotics
help rosacea because of their anti-inflammatory effects (not their
anti-bacterial effects). Oral antibiotics can be extremely helpful for
many (not all) with rosacea. In addition, there are a multitude of
topical medications that can be very effective long-term. A
dermatologist looks at your rosacea and decides the order in which to
try them and figure out the one your skin needs. It does take time and
patience, however. Remember, treatments for rosacea generally take
about two months to start working. When they do, however, you will really know
it.

There is no cure for rosacea. It's a skin condition that persists if
not treated properly. Some have posted in the past that parasite
and/or bowel cleanses have been somewhat helpful, and others report no
effect. I tried "paragone" years ago, and I do think it helped
temporarily, for maybe a few days, but it was by no means a cure. I
still have rosacea but it's under good control with my skin care
routine, Tetracycline, Finacea, occasional IPL treatments, and Red
Light Therapy.

In my opinion, doing a cleanse, eating a healthy diet, adding
probiotics, being positive, and decreasing stress are all very good for rosacea,
but you may likely need to treat it in the long term. It does sound like you
have had an unusual amount of stress lately. Hopefully your rosacea calms down a
lot once the stressful situation calms down (and I hope it does for you soon,
you poor dear!)

A good way to start is by identifying major triggers and finding a
gentle skin care routine (and seeing your dermatologist, of course!).

What do you use on your skin to cleanse and moisturize? What are your
major rosacea triggers?

I just don't want you to be disappointed if the current plan doesn't
work the way you might have hoped :( I do hope it does, and be sure
to check in often for support and to share what helps you (or doesn't)
along the way.

All the best!

Artist
Not medical advice. Ask your doctor first.

--- In rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com, Sherrell-Lynn Johnson
<deputyfred1@ ...> wrote:
>
> Lilly,
>
> I am on board with you 100%. I don't know of any other bacterial
infection that doctors prescribe antibiotics just to "suppress" it.
Maybe there are some out there but they are unkown to me. I know for
the last 3 yrs I have been under an astronomical amount of stress.
There were some very terrible personal experiences that sent me
sprialing into a deep depression and the tragedy that fell upon us led
to financial ruin. I won't bore anyone with my mess, for I know we
all have our own trials and tribulations. However, all the stress,
and the medications I have been given over the last 3 yrs combined
with the poor diet and poor nutrition, no sleep, etc, etc, I think my
body is reacting to the lack of care it has been given. I can't speak
for everyone else, but I think cleansing my body, ridding it of the
artificial crap, and impurities that I have poured into it, I think it
will definitely help if not rid myself of this roseca altogether.
> Doctors would disagree but if certain vitamins can help fend off
cancer why can't cleansing my body all all the impurities help clear
up a skin condition? I have already started a parasite cleansing
program, stopped drinking soda and replacing that with pure water and
green tea. I am starting chloryphyll tablets today and I am taking
probiotics. With a change in diet and caring for myself for a change,
it can only lead to good health. I will keep my progress posted in
hopes it will give someone else another alternative and maybe even be
an answer. I think I am beginning to really see that if we dont take
care of our bodies, our bodies simply can't take care of us. We abuse
our bodies everyday and don't even realize it. I am choosing to stop
that cycle of abuse and treat myself with respect and care. hey, who
knows, it just might be the answer.
>
> Thanks for your support and advice. I will post my progress. And
good luck to all who suffer this and any other noncurable disease!!
>
>
> Sherrell-Lynn
>
> --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Lilly Samur <lilllsam@.. .> wrote:
>
> From: Lilly Samur <lilllsam@.. .>
> Subject: Re: [rosacea] Questions for Lilly S.
> To: rosacea-support@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 3:18 PM
>
> Tetracycline doesn't treat Rosacea - it's just suppress it and that way
> makes it chronicle. I was on Tet for more then 3 years and in the
end Rosacea
> adjust to it and it stopped work at all. Same with metronidazol -
multiple
> studies found that Rosacea resist it. For me it never worked.
> I actually heard from one derm in Europe that Tetracycline (and
like) may be
> the cause of "superinfection" (unfriendly bacteria overgrow) that
> cause Rosacea. Anybody knows something about it? I know that it's effect
> intestinal immunity (they say 80% of our immunity in intestens?). So
maybe to
> fix immunity related desese (including Rosacea) we should start from
fixing our
> intestens? Do some cleansing, antiparasite and take some probiotics?
> And funnies thing - that antibiotics I mention thats all derm in USA
would
> prescribe. Why they prescribe something that is not working - I have
no idea.
> Most of them (that I spok) know about Rosacea less then I do. Last
time when I
> had bad outbreak (before my treatment) and I saw derm - she told me
- it's
> not going to get any better, will get only worst with time... She
prescribe me
> same antibiotics and Differin (which my insurance didn't cover and I pay
> crazy money for it and which make me break out like crazy after first
> application and took a month to fix that). So now I agree - if I
follow her
> treatment it could probably get only worst. I'm glad I found my way
out and
> I wish it to everyone. I know everybody have different skin type and
Rosacea
> case and have to find their way out and I hope you all do. Just take
your health
> to your own hands, do your research, demand from docs treatment
change, stay
> up-to-date etc. My grandma (who was herbalist, same like my mom) use
to say -
> Doctors will help you if you know how to help your self.
> I agree.
> Good luck,
> Lilly
>


















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