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#2530

From: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue Jun 1, 2004 3:02 pm
Subject: File - POLL Questions & Database Categories

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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
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This is a reminder to the group that there are continuing polls being
conducted for the Rosacea Diet Users Support Group that ask
the questions:

Has the Rosacea Diet © helped control your rosacea?
Are you a meat eater or a vegetarian?
Besides the Rosacea Diet, What other treatment(s) do you use?
Have you found that sugar substitutes trigger your rosacea?

You may have already voted, but please check to see if your votes
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The poll results or voting can be obtained by logging into:

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Click on each Question Poll and then vote if you haven't already voted
or you may see the current results.

I have tried to use the same responses that David Pasco's Review of
the Rosacea Diet received when he conducted his own poll on
Rosacea Diet users.  Pascoe only received four results.  There is
enough evidence from this poll that the Rosacea Diet works.

Reading the results of the polls is very interesting so I hope you
enjoy this yahoo group feature.

Thanks!

If you have an idea for a poll, please email:

Please Note:
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enter database information by email.

A DATABASE is provided by yahoo groups
that the Rosacea Diet User Support Group
can use.  Please read below:

The most popular database the group enjoys is the FAVORITE RECIPE
It is easy and I think you will like how yahoo's database works.
This is how you do it:
go to this url:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group/database

in the right frame click on the RECIPES folder

you will now see the recipe database, and if you post one, your recipe
may inspire others in the group to post their favorite one and it will grow!

In the right frame, near the top, click on 'ADD RECORD' and post your recipe!

Just think, if every member of the group posted just one each, what a source
of recipes that will help us stay on the Rosacea Diet!

A database of Rosacea Diet Humor has been established
for your enjoyment and hopefully you can add your own
humor.  For inspiration, read GT's Rosacea Diet Humor
in the FILES section on the group site at this url >

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-diet-users-support-group/files/

We all need to laugh.

There are other DATABASE questions you can enjoy.

Hope you enjoy using this feature, which is really a blessing for our support
group.

Brady Barrows
group owner

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#2529

From: mikeries@...
Date: Sun May 30, 2004 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: Exercise and flushing

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I started working out again 2 months ago.  60 minutes on an elliptical
machine.  I think it triggered one of my worse bouts.  I ended up at the
dermatologist.


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#2528

From: "Michael" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Sun May 30, 2004 7:51 am
Subject: Re: Exercise and flushing

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Steve,

Your thoughts on exercise puts a smile to my face.  It sounds like the more
often we exercise, albeit not in wildly hot or unbearably cold weather or too
ridiculously strenuous, the better it will be for our rosacea.  Our body will
get more used to regular exercise and not be so shocked when it loses tons of
water all of a sudden and our heart rates shoot up handsomely.

This means I will be playing basketball more often :).....However, I will try
and make sure the gym is always air conditioned, and I will probably try to play
for an hour or less from now on....and even then, take breaks between games,
drink lots of water, etc....

Anyways, thanks again, Steve.....Glad you are not letting this condition stop
you completely from exercising as it is a nice stress reliever and is very
beneficial to our bodies and health if utilized moderately and correctly.

Best,
Mike H.


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Subject: Re: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Exercise and flushing

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First of all, Brady:  After the severity of this past winter, I'm a little <BR>
jealous that you've escaped Massachusetts.  Once the stress of moving has <BR>
subsided, I hope the weather is a good change for your roseacea.<BR>
<BR>
To Mike:  I'm sure it can be found somewhere in the old posts but I made the
<BR>
conscious decision about a year and a half ago to become physically fit.  I <BR>
thought metabolism stopped at 30 but 40 dealt me a nasty blow and I packed on
<BR>
the pounds.  The short story is when I first started exercising, I would flush
<BR>
quite severely.  It was hard -- and embarrasing -- to go to gym where the mere
<BR>
strain of lifting a towel caused me to flush so badly, they had the <BR>
defibrilator at the ready.  I found that by slowing the process down and walking
at a <BR>
good clip on a treadmill and using an eliptical, I became more cardiovascularly
<BR>
fit and I could then step up the pace.  When the weather is good enough to run
<BR>
outside -- not too hot, not to cold (which is about a three-week window in <BR>
Massachusetts) -- is another way to push the limits and increase your general
<BR>
fitness level.  The first few times I ran, the flushing was terrible and would
<BR>
last for a few hours, and sometimes I could feel a residual &quot;burning&quot;
for a few <BR>
days afterwards.  By building up that level, I have found I can workout much
<BR>
more strenuously that I ever could have in the past.<BR>
<BR>
I notice, though, that if I'm busy and skip a few weeks at the gym, I have to
<BR>
build it up all over again.  The first time I &quot;run up&quot; 100 flights on
a <BR>
StairMaster, I flush pretty badly and it's a few workouts before things are back
to <BR>
normal.<BR>
<BR>
I also discovered that I was reacting to a fitness water that I was drinking.
<BR>
  I got lazy about reading ingredients and found that Propel water is <BR>
fortified with Niacin which I think was responsible for a terrible reaction.  (I
also <BR>
cannot tolerate Aspartame at all).<BR>
<BR>
So, I hope which some experimentation with pushing your limits slowly and
buil<BR>
ding up to something as strenous as playing basketball will cause you to <BR>
flush less.<BR>
<BR>
Best wishes,<BR>
<BR>
Steve <BR>
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#2527

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Sat May 29, 2004 9:14 am
Subject: Re: Thank you, kind sir.

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Mike,

You are welcome.

I was in Costco and ate some of those
palm hearts when they were giving a
taste test.  I should buy some next
time.  I don't know why I didn't, can't
remember.  In fact I was in Costco
today in Kona.

Brady

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Michael"
<mhpro2er@e...> wrote:
>
> Brady,
>
> Thank you for your candor as well.  I know I sometimes feel like perhaps you
as our
founder and lead moderator already "made it" and that you no longer have to
battle
Rosacea as much as we do since, after all, you started the Rosacea Diet (and yor
picture looks great on the site)!....I sometimes forget that this is a lifetime
commitment of change and growth and discipline, and none of us are exempt.
Indeed, without you, many of us may truly feel like we are alone in our rosacea
suffering and challenge.  I feel a strong sense of community, and that I am
sharing
this experience with all of you in the RDUSG and even countless others who are
not in
the group.  Community is so empowering and inspiring in this life.  I am glad
you
started this group!  And that you let me in!
>
> Best,
> Mike H.
>
> P.S. I have been eating hearts of palm with many dinners....Fantastic
vegetable!...And no sugar, very few carbs....Found it at Costco.
>
> --- On Wed 05/26, Brady Barrows < bradybarrows@h... > wrote:
> From: Brady Barrows [mailto: bradybarrows@h...]
> To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 17:36:00 -0000
> Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] (unknown)
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> Mike, <BR>
> Heavy stuff bro. So heavy <BR>
> you left the subject box blank. <BR>
> Sometimes we are all at a loss <BR>
> of what to do about our <BR>
> rosacea and feel as blank as <BR>
> that subject box.  I recently <BR>
> moved to Hawaii and the stress <BR>
> from this move has aggravated <BR>
> my rosacea.  Paradise has stress, <BR>
> believe me.  The move, the cost, <BR>
> the adjustment, new friends, <BR>
> new culture.  I am convinced this is <BR>
> the US and I find out what <BR>
> 'haole go home' means first hand<BR>
> and how the word 'sovereignty' is <BR>
> dear to the native Hawaiians and <BR>
> have understood a little better <BR>
> what 'island fever' is.  I am still<BR>
> confident that my diet works. But<BR>
> when my rosacea broke out I felt <BR>
> like a failure and embarrassed<BR>
> which added more to the stress. <BR>
> <BR>
> But like you, I am trying to concentrate <BR>
> on the positive.  My environment <BR>
> is nice.  So far, this island is <BR>
> still in the USA with Costco and <BR>
> Wal-Mart.  My rosacea is controlled <BR>
> with my diet.  And I am trying another <BR>
> prescription drug to help.  You can <BR>
> read my diary at this url &gt;<BR>
> <BR>
> <a href="http://rosacea-diet.com/diflucandiary.html">http://rosacea-diet.com/
diflucandiary.html</a><BR>
> <BR>
> I am seeing some postive results <BR>
> with this prescription drug.  It is a <BR>
> pioneer endeavor that requires skin <BR>
> peeling and stinging.  I doubt if the <BR>
> side effects are any worse than IPL, <BR>
> but of course I don't know that for <BR>
> sure since I have never done IPL. <BR>
> I should know in time if this heals <BR>
> rosacea and will continue to report <BR>
> about it in my public diary. <BR>
> <BR>
> Sun is a big time trigger for me. I <BR>
> have to wear 50 SPF sunblock here. <BR>
> As for exercise, I need to be more <BR>
> active but I do not do the strenuous <BR>
> exercise you do playing basketball. <BR>
> I hope others in the group may have <BR>
> some advice like Deb gave you.  <BR>
> <BR>
> The stress you are going through <BR>
> with your change of career no doubt <BR>
> is a huge factor.  I am convinced that <BR>
> the psychological factor of rosacea <BR>
> due to stress is a major trigger.  <BR>
> I met a physician here who is writing <BR>
> a book called 'Common Health Sense' <BR>
> and he says that half the 'cure' of any <BR>
> treatment is in the mind.  <BR>
> You are on the right track to reduce <BR>
> the stress but in reducing the stress <BR>
> in our lives we sometimes create new <BR>
> additional stresses!  What a terrible cycle. <BR>
> <BR>
> I am very glad you posted your long <BR>
> post which inspired me to also spill<BR>
> my guts out to the group.  At least <BR>
> we can discuss all this together <BR>
> and know that someone can relate <BR>
> to this terrible disease that is so <BR>
> embarrassing and humiliating. But <BR>
> your positive attitude is encouraging <BR>
> and supportive which is what we all<BR>
> need.  I am glad you are in the group. <BR>
> <BR>
> Brady <BR>
> <BR>
>  <BR>
> <BR>
> --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, &quot;Michael&quot;
<BR>
> mhpro2er@e... wrote:<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; I have not posted in a while....A few things, briefly, RDUSG members, if
I may:
<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; Is there anyone in this group who exercises strenously as opposed to <BR>
> moderately?...Does their rosacea break out lots?...I am curious because I
LOOOOOOVE <BR>
> playing basketball, and it's pretty strenuous....It's great in some ways
because it
<BR>
> relieves stress; however, as we all know it aggravates our condition too.  I
drink lots
of <BR>
> water, even more when I play basketball, and I found an air conditioned gym
(!!!)
<BR>
> which is great, but I still feel like I could be doing more...(my face still
gets more
<BR>
> reddish right after)...<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; Any help would be appreciated, I am sure to me and possibly other members
of the <BR>
> group.<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; Brady, do you have any thoughts on this?...<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; I have also been meditating to try and relieve some of my residual
stresses as
well.  <BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; I also quit my job as a Commodity Broker yesterday; it paid very well, I
am
good at <BR>
> it, but way too stressful (and it wasn't my true passion career-wise in life
anyways---<BR>
> it was all about the money).  Maybe I'm sharing a little too much with the
group, but
if <BR>
> it's ok with you guys, then no matter to me either.  We all should know how we
are
<BR>
> coping with our condition, and fighting it!  I am taking a less stressful job
that is
<BR>
> substantially less pay, and I may return to graduate school next year.  Am
rambling
<BR>
> but I wish to share because this condition affects all of our lives, every
facet, and if
<BR>
> anyone in the group has been dealing with the aforesaid subject, well, you're
not
<BR>
> alone!<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; As well, this diet is a Godsend, Brady, and I thank you immensely.  It
has
helped <BR>
> DRAMATICALLY, and my flushing episodes are not as frequent as they used to be.
<BR>
> (Indeed, aspartame, even after the initial 30 days is very hard on me...I
drank a
sugar-<BR>
> free Red Bull yesterday, and I still flushed lots...So I have been taking
notes on what
I <BR>
> can and can't eat, and I bring the &quot;Can Eat&quot; list when I shop.  It's
fun,
and it's <BR>
> systematic.)  <BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; Yet we all know that stress is a prime factor for many rosacea
sufferers...I had
to <BR>
> stop and think: &quot;This condition is great in the sense that it encourages
us not
to lead <BR>
> lives as stressful as we may accept if we did not have rosacea and did things
for the
<BR>
> money, or for the glory, etc&quot; and &quot;it also encourages us not to
gorge out
like so many <BR>
> Americans on junk food and be gluttons&quot;.  Hey, it's all about attitude,
right?....Sure I <BR>
> have days when I'm almost in tears thinking about what I could have done in
the
past, <BR>
> etc., if I could have avoided this condition (as I'm sure the rest of you have
done
too), <BR>
> but I think we all know that this condition was supposed to be ours to
embrace, one
<BR>
> of our lessons, one of our challenges, that's why this group is
here---solidarity and
<BR>
> knowing that we are not alone in our experiences.  <BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; Another thing, then I'll go: This war along with so many random deaths
here in
our <BR>
> own country and abroad should remind us that, seriously, we are alive!...Life
is a
<BR>
> gift...I mean, this condition is probably particularly difficult esp. here in
the U.S. or
in <BR>
> England (as a few members recently posted from there) because our standards of
<BR>
> living are so high, and we have so much opportunity, there seems to be a cure
out
<BR>
> there for everything.  And we see so much beauty and bling-bling on tv and out
and
<BR>
> about, etc. that we forget that our condition is manageable, and it is NOT
TERMINAL, <BR>
> it's topical.  If anything, it may help us in the long-term because we'll eat
less junk
<BR>
> food, have better heart rates because we stray from stress, etc...And bottom
line:
<BR>
> Dealing with rosacea in the U.S. or in England or in any 1st world country is
much
<BR>
> better than being ALMOST ANYONE who does not have rosacea and who has perfect
<BR>
> skin in any 3rd world country.  (I'm ranting and raving because I've spoken
lots with
<BR>
> my cousin who just got back from a tour in Iraq, and he's going back next year
and
I <BR>
> just wanted to share my thoughts with you guys---those of you who aren't
asleep
yet <BR>
> from reading this long-winded soapbox-y post). <BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; Anyways, I'm rambling so I'll go now.  <BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; My parting quote:  May we all seek to have better skin whilst we seek to
lead
better <BR>
> lives.<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; Warmest,<BR>
> &gt; Mike H.<BR>
> &gt; <BR>
> &gt; P.S. I won't be too soapbox-y too often. I promise.  This is a rarity. 
<BR>
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#2526

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Sat May 29, 2004 9:10 am
Subject: Re: Exercise and flushing

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Steve,
The Berkshires where I once lived is a bit more nasty
than the Boston area.  In the town I lived in there
was a ski resort and there were three others within
fifteen minutes.  I left December 24 and am very happy
with the weather here.  As Bob Dylan said, 'Don't look
back.'  Or as James Taylor said, 'The Berkshires seem
dreamlike on account of the frosting, with ten miles
behind me and ten thousand more to go."  The stress
here is the move and the dramatic change in culture.
It is the USA but it is not.  I should write a book on
it.  Actually there are already a huge number of books
on the subject.

Anyway, today I went swimming in the ocean on one
of the best beaches in all Hawaii (voted on many polls
as in the top) - Hapuna Beach and the ocean is definitely
good for rosacea.  I highly recommend it.  Removes
tons of stress.  For a look go to this url >

http://www.hawaiiweb.com/hawaii/html/beaches/hapuna_beach_state_park.html

My next book, 'Rosacea Stress Free'

I am going to nominate you for the Rosacea Diet
Humor award for 2004.  It is definitely a close race
and you are defintely in.  Your exercise routine is
priceless.  I am laughing was out here in the Pacific.

Brady

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, Atlanticart@a... wrote:
> Brady, et al.
>
> First of all, Brady:  After the severity of this past winter, I'm a little
> jealous that you've escaped Massachusetts.  Once the stress of moving has
> subsided, I hope the weather is a good change for your roseacea.
>
> To Mike:  I'm sure it can be found somewhere in the old posts but I made the
> conscious decision about a year and a half ago to become physically fit.  I
> thought metabolism stopped at 30 but 40 dealt me a nasty blow and I packed on
> the pounds.  The short story is when I first started exercising, I would flush
> quite severely.  It was hard -- and embarrasing -- to go to gym where the mere
> strain of lifting a towel caused me to flush so badly, they had the
> defibrilator at the ready.  I found that by slowing the process down and
walking at a
> good clip on a treadmill and using an eliptical, I became more
cardiovascularly
> fit and I could then step up the pace.  When the weather is good enough to run
> outside -- not too hot, not to cold (which is about a three-week window in
> Massachusetts) -- is another way to push the limits and increase your general
> fitness level.  The first few times I ran, the flushing was terrible and would
> last for a few hours, and sometimes I could feel a residual "burning" for a
few
> days afterwards.  By building up that level, I have found I can workout much
> more strenuously that I ever could have in the past.
>
> I notice, though, that if I'm busy and skip a few weeks at the gym, I have to
> build it up all over again.  The first time I "run up" 100 flights on a
> StairMaster, I flush pretty badly and it's a few workouts before things are
back to
> normal.
>
> I also discovered that I was reacting to a fitness water that I was drinking.
>  I got lazy about reading ingredients and found that Propel water is
> fortified with Niacin which I think was responsible for a terrible reaction. 
(I also
> cannot tolerate Aspartame at all).
>
> So, I hope which some experimentation with pushing your limits slowly and buil
> ding up to something as strenous as playing basketball will cause you to
> flush less.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Steve
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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From: "Michael" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Sat May 29, 2004 12:09 am
Subject: Re: Exercise and flushing

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Thanks Steve for the advce!

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First of all, Brady:  After the severity of this past winter, I'm a little <BR>
jealous that you've escaped Massachusetts.  Once the stress of moving has <BR>
subsided, I hope the weather is a good change for your roseacea.<BR>
<BR>
To Mike:  I'm sure it can be found somewhere in the old posts but I made the
<BR>
conscious decision about a year and a half ago to become physically fit.  I <BR>
thought metabolism stopped at 30 but 40 dealt me a nasty blow and I packed on
<BR>
the pounds.  The short story is when I first started exercising, I would flush
<BR>
quite severely.  It was hard -- and embarrasing -- to go to gym where the mere
<BR>
strain of lifting a towel caused me to flush so badly, they had the <BR>
defibrilator at the ready.  I found that by slowing the process down and walking
at a <BR>
good clip on a treadmill and using an eliptical, I became more cardiovascularly
<BR>
fit and I could then step up the pace.  When the weather is good enough to run
<BR>
outside -- not too hot, not to cold (which is about a three-week window in <BR>
Massachusetts) -- is another way to push the limits and increase your general
<BR>
fitness level.  The first few times I ran, the flushing was terrible and would
<BR>
last for a few hours, and sometimes I could feel a residual &quot;burning&quot;
for a few <BR>
days afterwards.  By building up that level, I have found I can workout much
<BR>
more strenuously that I ever could have in the past.<BR>
<BR>
I notice, though, that if I'm busy and skip a few weeks at the gym, I have to
<BR>
build it up all over again.  The first time I &quot;run up&quot; 100 flights on
a <BR>
StairMaster, I flush pretty badly and it's a few workouts before things are back
to <BR>
normal.<BR>
<BR>
I also discovered that I was reacting to a fitness water that I was drinking.
<BR>
  I got lazy about reading ingredients and found that Propel water is <BR>
fortified with Niacin which I think was responsible for a terrible reaction.  (I
also <BR>
cannot tolerate Aspartame at all).<BR>
<BR>
So, I hope which some experimentation with pushing your limits slowly and
buil<BR>
ding up to something as strenous as playing basketball will cause you to <BR>
flush less.<BR>
<BR>
Best wishes,<BR>
<BR>
Steve <BR>
<BR>
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From: Atlanticart@...
Date: Fri May 28, 2004 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Exercise and flushing

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Brady, et al.

First of all, Brady:  After the severity of this past winter, I'm a little
jealous that you've escaped Massachusetts.  Once the stress of moving has
subsided, I hope the weather is a good change for your roseacea.

To Mike:  I'm sure it can be found somewhere in the old posts but I made the
conscious decision about a year and a half ago to become physically fit.  I
thought metabolism stopped at 30 but 40 dealt me a nasty blow and I packed on
the pounds.  The short story is when I first started exercising, I would flush
quite severely.  It was hard -- and embarrasing -- to go to gym where the mere
strain of lifting a towel caused me to flush so badly, they had the
defibrilator at the ready.  I found that by slowing the process down and walking
at a
good clip on a treadmill and using an eliptical, I became more cardiovascularly
fit and I could then step up the pace.  When the weather is good enough to run
outside -- not too hot, not to cold (which is about a three-week window in
Massachusetts) -- is another way to push the limits and increase your general
fitness level.  The first few times I ran, the flushing was terrible and would
last for a few hours, and sometimes I could feel a residual "burning" for a few
days afterwards.  By building up that level, I have found I can workout much
more strenuously that I ever could have in the past.

I notice, though, that if I'm busy and skip a few weeks at the gym, I have to
build it up all over again.  The first time I "run up" 100 flights on a
StairMaster, I flush pretty badly and it's a few workouts before things are back
to
normal.

I also discovered that I was reacting to a fitness water that I was drinking.
  I got lazy about reading ingredients and found that Propel water is
fortified with Niacin which I think was responsible for a terrible reaction.  (I
also
cannot tolerate Aspartame at all).

So, I hope which some experimentation with pushing your limits slowly and buil
ding up to something as strenous as playing basketball will cause you to
flush less.

Best wishes,

Steve


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#2523

From: "Michael" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Fri May 28, 2004 7:34 am
Subject: Thank you, kind sir.

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Brady,

Thank you for your candor as well.  I know I sometimes feel like perhaps you as
our founder and lead moderator already "made it" and that you no longer have to
battle Rosacea as much as we do since, after all, you started the Rosacea Diet
(and yor picture looks great on the site)!....I sometimes forget that this is a
lifetime commitment of change and growth and discipline, and none of us are
exempt.  Indeed, without you, many of us may truly feel like we are alone in our
rosacea suffering and challenge.  I feel a strong sense of community, and that I
am sharing this experience with all of you in the RDUSG and even countless
others who are not in the group.  Community is so empowering and inspiring in
this life.  I am glad you started this group!  And that you let me in!

Best,
Mike H.

P.S. I have been eating hearts of palm with many dinners....Fantastic
vegetable!...And no sugar, very few carbs....Found it at Costco.

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Heavy stuff bro. So heavy <BR>
you left the subject box blank. <BR>
Sometimes we are all at a loss <BR>
of what to do about our <BR>
rosacea and feel as blank as <BR>
that subject box.  I recently <BR>
moved to Hawaii and the stress <BR>
from this move has aggravated <BR>
my rosacea.  Paradise has stress, <BR>
believe me.  The move, the cost, <BR>
the adjustment, new friends, <BR>
new culture.  I am convinced this is <BR>
the US and I find out what <BR>
'haole go home' means first hand<BR>
and how the word 'sovereignty' is <BR>
dear to the native Hawaiians and <BR>
have understood a little better <BR>
what 'island fever' is.  I am still<BR>
confident that my diet works. But<BR>
when my rosacea broke out I felt <BR>
like a failure and embarrassed<BR>
which added more to the stress. <BR>
<BR>
But like you, I am trying to concentrate <BR>
on the positive.  My environment <BR>
is nice.  So far, this island is <BR>
still in the USA with Costco and <BR>
Wal-Mart.  My rosacea is controlled <BR>
with my diet.  And I am trying another <BR>
prescription drug to help.  You can <BR>
read my diary at this url &gt;<BR>
<BR>
<a
href="http://rosacea-diet.com/diflucandiary.html">http://rosacea-diet.com/difluc\
andiary.html</a><BR>
<BR>
I am seeing some postive results <BR>
with this prescription drug.  It is a <BR>
pioneer endeavor that requires skin <BR>
peeling and stinging.  I doubt if the <BR>
side effects are any worse than IPL, <BR>
but of course I don't know that for <BR>
sure since I have never done IPL. <BR>
I should know in time if this heals <BR>
rosacea and will continue to report <BR>
about it in my public diary. <BR>
<BR>
Sun is a big time trigger for me. I <BR>
have to wear 50 SPF sunblock here. <BR>
As for exercise, I need to be more <BR>
active but I do not do the strenuous <BR>
exercise you do playing basketball. <BR>
I hope others in the group may have <BR>
some advice like Deb gave you.  <BR>
<BR>
The stress you are going through <BR>
with your change of career no doubt <BR>
is a huge factor.  I am convinced that <BR>
the psychological factor of rosacea <BR>
due to stress is a major trigger.  <BR>
I met a physician here who is writing <BR>
a book called 'Common Health Sense' <BR>
and he says that half the 'cure' of any <BR>
treatment is in the mind.  <BR>
You are on the right track to reduce <BR>
the stress but in reducing the stress <BR>
in our lives we sometimes create new <BR>
additional stresses!  What a terrible cycle. <BR>
<BR>
I am very glad you posted your long <BR>
post which inspired me to also spill<BR>
my guts out to the group.  At least <BR>
we can discuss all this together <BR>
and know that someone can relate <BR>
to this terrible disease that is so <BR>
embarrassing and humiliating. But <BR>
your positive attitude is encouraging <BR>
and supportive which is what we all<BR>
need.  I am glad you are in the group. <BR>
<BR>
Brady <BR>
<BR>
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--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, &quot;Michael&quot;
<BR>
&lt;mhpro2er@e...&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; I have not posted in a while....A few things, briefly, RDUSG members, if I
may:<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Is there anyone in this group who exercises strenously as opposed to <BR>
moderately?...Does their rosacea break out lots?...I am curious because I
LOOOOOOVE <BR>
playing basketball, and it's pretty strenuous....It's great in some ways because
it <BR>
relieves stress; however, as we all know it aggravates our condition too.  I
drink lots of <BR>
water, even more when I play basketball, and I found an air conditioned gym
(!!!) <BR>
which is great, but I still feel like I could be doing more...(my face still
gets more <BR>
reddish right after)...<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Any help would be appreciated, I am sure to me and possibly other members
of the <BR>
group.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Brady, do you have any thoughts on this?...<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; I have also been meditating to try and relieve some of my residual stresses
as well.  <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; I also quit my job as a Commodity Broker yesterday; it paid very well, I am
good at <BR>
it, but way too stressful (and it wasn't my true passion career-wise in life
anyways---<BR>
it was all about the money).  Maybe I'm sharing a little too much with the
group, but if <BR>
it's ok with you guys, then no matter to me either.  We all should know how we
are <BR>
coping with our condition, and fighting it!  I am taking a less stressful job
that is <BR>
substantially less pay, and I may return to graduate school next year.  Am
rambling <BR>
but I wish to share because this condition affects all of our lives, every
facet, and if <BR>
anyone in the group has been dealing with the aforesaid subject, well, you're
not <BR>
alone!<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; As well, this diet is a Godsend, Brady, and I thank you immensely.  It has
helped <BR>
DRAMATICALLY, and my flushing episodes are not as frequent as they used to be. 
<BR>
(Indeed, aspartame, even after the initial 30 days is very hard on me...I drank
a sugar-<BR>
free Red Bull yesterday, and I still flushed lots...So I have been taking notes
on what I <BR>
can and can't eat, and I bring the &quot;Can Eat&quot; list when I shop.  It's
fun, and it's <BR>
systematic.)  <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Yet we all know that stress is a prime factor for many rosacea
sufferers...I had to <BR>
stop and think: &quot;This condition is great in the sense that it encourages us
not to lead <BR>
lives as stressful as we may accept if we did not have rosacea and did things
for the <BR>
money, or for the glory, etc&quot; and &quot;it also encourages us not to gorge
out like so many <BR>
Americans on junk food and be gluttons&quot;.  Hey, it's all about attitude,
right?....Sure I <BR>
have days when I'm almost in tears thinking about what I could have done in the
past, <BR>
etc., if I could have avoided this condition (as I'm sure the rest of you have
done too), <BR>
but I think we all know that this condition was supposed to be ours to embrace,
one <BR>
of our lessons, one of our challenges, that's why this group is
here---solidarity and <BR>
knowing that we are not alone in our experiences.  <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Another thing, then I'll go: This war along with so many random deaths here
in our <BR>
own country and abroad should remind us that, seriously, we are alive!...Life is
a <BR>
gift...I mean, this condition is probably particularly difficult esp. here in
the U.S. or in <BR>
England (as a few members recently posted from there) because our standards of
<BR>
living are so high, and we have so much opportunity, there seems to be a cure
out <BR>
there for everything.  And we see so much beauty and bling-bling on tv and out
and <BR>
about, etc. that we forget that our condition is manageable, and it is NOT
TERMINAL, <BR>
it's topical.  If anything, it may help us in the long-term because we'll eat
less junk <BR>
food, have better heart rates because we stray from stress, etc...And bottom
line: <BR>
Dealing with rosacea in the U.S. or in England or in any 1st world country is
much <BR>
better than being ALMOST ANYONE who does not have rosacea and who has perfect
<BR>
skin in any 3rd world country.  (I'm ranting and raving because I've spoken lots
with <BR>
my cousin who just got back from a tour in Iraq, and he's going back next year
and I <BR>
just wanted to share my thoughts with you guys---those of you who aren't asleep
yet <BR>
from reading this long-winded soapbox-y post). <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Anyways, I'm rambling so I'll go now.  <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; My parting quote:  May we all seek to have better skin whilst we seek to
lead better <BR>
lives.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Warmest,<BR>
&gt; Mike H.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; P.S. I won't be too soapbox-y too often. I promise.  This is a rarity. 
<BR>
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From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Wed May 26, 2004 5:36 pm
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Mike,
Heavy stuff bro. So heavy
you left the subject box blank.
Sometimes we are all at a loss
of what to do about our
rosacea and feel as blank as
that subject box.  I recently
moved to Hawaii and the stress
from this move has aggravated
my rosacea.  Paradise has stress,
believe me.  The move, the cost,
the adjustment, new friends,
new culture.  I am convinced this is
the US and I find out what
'haole go home' means first hand
and how the word 'sovereignty' is
dear to the native Hawaiians and
have understood a little better
what 'island fever' is.  I am still
confident that my diet works. But
when my rosacea broke out I felt
like a failure and embarrassed
which added more to the stress.

But like you, I am trying to concentrate
on the positive.  My environment
is nice.  So far, this island is
still in the USA with Costco and
Wal-Mart.  My rosacea is controlled
with my diet.  And I am trying another
prescription drug to help.  You can
read my diary at this url >

http://rosacea-diet.com/diflucandiary.html

I am seeing some postive results
with this prescription drug.  It is a
pioneer endeavor that requires skin
peeling and stinging.  I doubt if the
side effects are any worse than IPL,
but of course I don't know that for
sure since I have never done IPL.
I should know in time if this heals
rosacea and will continue to report
about it in my public diary.

Sun is a big time trigger for me. I
have to wear 50 SPF sunblock here.
As for exercise, I need to be more
active but I do not do the strenuous
exercise you do playing basketball.
I hope others in the group may have
some advice like Deb gave you.

The stress you are going through
with your change of career no doubt
is a huge factor.  I am convinced that
the psychological factor of rosacea
due to stress is a major trigger.
I met a physician here who is writing
a book called 'Common Health Sense'
and he says that half the 'cure' of any
treatment is in the mind.
You are on the right track to reduce
the stress but in reducing the stress
in our lives we sometimes create new
additional stresses!  What a terrible cycle.

I am very glad you posted your long
post which inspired me to also spill
my guts out to the group.  At least
we can discuss all this together
and know that someone can relate
to this terrible disease that is so
embarrassing and humiliating. But
your positive attitude is encouraging
and supportive which is what we all
need.  I am glad you are in the group.

Brady

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Michael"
<mhpro2er@e...> wrote:
>
> I have not posted in a while....A few things, briefly, RDUSG members, if I
may:
>
> Is there anyone in this group who exercises strenously as opposed to
moderately?...Does their rosacea break out lots?...I am curious because I
LOOOOOOVE
playing basketball, and it's pretty strenuous....It's great in some ways because
it
relieves stress; however, as we all know it aggravates our condition too.  I
drink lots of
water, even more when I play basketball, and I found an air conditioned gym
(!!!)
which is great, but I still feel like I could be doing more...(my face still
gets more
reddish right after)...
>
> Any help would be appreciated, I am sure to me and possibly other members of
the
group.
>
> Brady, do you have any thoughts on this?...
>
> I have also been meditating to try and relieve some of my residual stresses as
well.
>
> I also quit my job as a Commodity Broker yesterday; it paid very well, I am
good at
it, but way too stressful (and it wasn't my true passion career-wise in life
anyways---
it was all about the money).  Maybe I'm sharing a little too much with the
group, but if
it's ok with you guys, then no matter to me either.  We all should know how we
are
coping with our condition, and fighting it!  I am taking a less stressful job
that is
substantially less pay, and I may return to graduate school next year.  Am
rambling
but I wish to share because this condition affects all of our lives, every
facet, and if
anyone in the group has been dealing with the aforesaid subject, well, you're
not
alone!
>
> As well, this diet is a Godsend, Brady, and I thank you immensely.  It has
helped
DRAMATICALLY, and my flushing episodes are not as frequent as they used to be.
(Indeed, aspartame, even after the initial 30 days is very hard on me...I drank
a sugar-
free Red Bull yesterday, and I still flushed lots...So I have been taking notes
on what I
can and can't eat, and I bring the "Can Eat" list when I shop.  It's fun, and
it's
systematic.)
>
> Yet we all know that stress is a prime factor for many rosacea sufferers...I
had to
stop and think: "This condition is great in the sense that it encourages us not
to lead
lives as stressful as we may accept if we did not have rosacea and did things
for the
money, or for the glory, etc" and "it also encourages us not to gorge out like
so many
Americans on junk food and be gluttons".  Hey, it's all about attitude,
right?....Sure I
have days when I'm almost in tears thinking about what I could have done in the
past,
etc., if I could have avoided this condition (as I'm sure the rest of you have
done too),
but I think we all know that this condition was supposed to be ours to embrace,
one
of our lessons, one of our challenges, that's why this group is
here---solidarity and
knowing that we are not alone in our experiences.
>
> Another thing, then I'll go: This war along with so many random deaths here in
our
own country and abroad should remind us that, seriously, we are alive!...Life is
a
gift...I mean, this condition is probably particularly difficult esp. here in
the U.S. or in
England (as a few members recently posted from there) because our standards of
living are so high, and we have so much opportunity, there seems to be a cure
out
there for everything.  And we see so much beauty and bling-bling on tv and out
and
about, etc. that we forget that our condition is manageable, and it is NOT
TERMINAL,
it's topical.  If anything, it may help us in the long-term because we'll eat
less junk
food, have better heart rates because we stray from stress, etc...And bottom
line:
Dealing with rosacea in the U.S. or in England or in any 1st world country is
much
better than being ALMOST ANYONE who does not have rosacea and who has perfect
skin in any 3rd world country.  (I'm ranting and raving because I've spoken lots
with
my cousin who just got back from a tour in Iraq, and he's going back next year
and I
just wanted to share my thoughts with you guys---those of you who aren't asleep
yet
from reading this long-winded soapbox-y post).
>
> Anyways, I'm rambling so I'll go now.
>
> My parting quote:  May we all seek to have better skin whilst we seek to lead
better
lives.
>
> Warmest,
> Mike H.
>
> P.S. I won't be too soapbox-y too often. I promise.  This is a rarity.
>
>
>
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#2521

From: Debbie Freeberg-Renwick <chinadebfr@...>
Date: Wed May 26, 2004 3:00 pm
Subject: Re:

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Good points. Thank you.

Regarding activity, I like to be very active also. AC
is a must for me. Also, a cool down activity is good
from a rosacea and a muscle point of view. Also, I try
to shower soon after to help get my core temp down.
Swimming is the best, but a shower is fine. I have
experimented and for me no extreme temps is best - not
REAL cold water, but just a bit on the cool side. Then
over the course of the shower I adjust the temp so it
always feels just a tad cool. For me at least it is
about stabilizing/normalizing temp, and not contrast
or big swings in temp. For me, big swings = big
trouble. If I am in a crunch I use one of those gel
packs you can put in the freezer. I keep a couple in
there. I put a towel between it and my skin so it
doesn't feel too cold and apply it to the top of my
head, back of my neck, middle of the front of my
torso, and feet. Those points seem to lower my temp
the best. Let us know what you discover. Deb

--- Michael <mhpro2er@...> wrote:
>
> I have not posted in a while....A few things,
> briefly, RDUSG members, if I may:
>
> Is there anyone in this group who exercises
> strenously as opposed to moderately?...Does their
> rosacea break out lots?...I am curious because I
> LOOOOOOVE playing basketball, and it's pretty
> strenuous....It's great in some ways because it
> relieves stress; however, as we all know it
> aggravates our condition too.  I drink lots of
> water, even more when I play basketball, and I found
> an air conditioned gym (!!!) which is great, but I
> still feel like I could be doing more...(my face
> still gets more reddish right after)...
>
> Any help would be appreciated, I am sure to me and
> possibly other members of the group.
>
> Brady, do you have any thoughts on this?...
>
> I have also been meditating to try and relieve some
> of my residual stresses as well.
>
> I also quit my job as a Commodity Broker yesterday;
> it paid very well, I am good at it, but way too
> stressful (and it wasn't my true passion career-wise
> in life anyways---it was all about the money).
> Maybe I'm sharing a little too much with the group,
> but if it's ok with you guys, then no matter to me
> either.  We all should know how we are coping with
> our condition, and fighting it!  I am taking a less
> stressful job that is substantially less pay, and I
> may return to graduate school next year.  Am
> rambling but I wish to share because this condition
> affects all of our lives, every facet, and if anyone
> in the group has been dealing with the aforesaid
> subject, well, you're not alone!
>
> As well, this diet is a Godsend, Brady, and I thank
> you immensely.  It has helped DRAMATICALLY, and my
> flushing episodes are not as frequent as they used
> to be.  (Indeed, aspartame, even after the initial
> 30 days is very hard on me...I drank a sugar-free
> Red Bull yesterday, and I still flushed lots...So I
> have been taking notes on what I can and can't eat,
> and I bring the "Can Eat" list when I shop.  It's
> fun, and it's systematic.)
>
> Yet we all know that stress is a prime factor for
> many rosacea sufferers...I had to stop and think:
> "This condition is great in the sense that it
> encourages us not to lead lives as stressful as we
> may accept if we did not have rosacea and did things
> for the money, or for the glory, etc" and "it also
> encourages us not to gorge out like so many
> Americans on junk food and be gluttons".  Hey, it's
> all about attitude, right?....Sure I have days when
> I'm almost in tears thinking about what I could have
> done in the past, etc., if I could have avoided this
> condition (as I'm sure the rest of you have done
> too), but I think we all know that this condition
> was supposed to be ours to embrace, one of our
> lessons, one of our challenges, that's why this
> group is here---solidarity and knowing that we are
> not alone in our experiences.
>
> Another thing, then I'll go: This war along with so
> many random deaths here in our own country and
> abroad should remind us that, seriously, we are
> alive!...Life is a gift...I mean, this condition is
> probably particularly difficult esp. here in the
> U.S. or in England (as a few members recently posted
> from there) because our standards of living are so
> high, and we have so much opportunity, there seems
> to be a cure out there for everything.  And we see
> so much beauty and bling-bling on tv and out and
> about, etc. that we forget that our condition is
> manageable, and it is NOT TERMINAL, it's topical.
> If anything, it may help us in the long-term because
> we'll eat less junk food, have better heart rates
> because we stray from stress, etc...And bottom line:
> Dealing with rosacea in the U.S. or in England or in
> any 1st world country is much better than being
> ALMOST ANYONE who does not have rosacea and who has
> perfect skin in any 3rd world country.  (I'm ranting
> and raving because I've spoken lots with my cousin
> who just got back from a tour in Iraq, and he's
> going back next year and I just wanted to share my
> thoughts with you guys---those of you who aren't
> asleep yet from reading this long-winded soapbox-y
> post).
>
> Anyways, I'm rambling so I'll go now.
>
> My parting quote:  May we all seek to have better
> skin whilst we seek to lead better lives.
>
> Warmest,
> Mike H.
>
> P.S. I won't be too soapbox-y too often. I promise.
> This is a rarity.
>
>
>
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#2519

From: "Michael" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Wed May 26, 2004 11:53 am
Subject: (No subject)

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I have not posted in a while....A few things, briefly, RDUSG members, if I may:

Is there anyone in this group who exercises strenously as opposed to
moderately?...Does their rosacea break out lots?...I am curious because I
LOOOOOOVE playing basketball, and it's pretty strenuous....It's great in some
ways because it relieves stress; however, as we all know it aggravates our
condition too.  I drink lots of water, even more when I play basketball, and I
found an air conditioned gym (!!!) which is great, but I still feel like I could
be doing more...(my face still gets more reddish right after)...

Any help would be appreciated, I am sure to me and possibly other members of the
group.

Brady, do you have any thoughts on this?...

I have also been meditating to try and relieve some of my residual stresses as
well.

I also quit my job as a Commodity Broker yesterday; it paid very well, I am good
at it, but way too stressful (and it wasn't my true passion career-wise in life
anyways---it was all about the money).  Maybe I'm sharing a little too much with
the group, but if it's ok with you guys, then no matter to me either.  We all
should know how we are coping with our condition, and fighting it!  I am taking
a less stressful job that is substantially less pay, and I may return to
graduate school next year.  Am rambling but I wish to share because this
condition affects all of our lives, every facet, and if anyone in the group has
been dealing with the aforesaid subject, well, you're not alone!

As well, this diet is a Godsend, Brady, and I thank you immensely.  It has
helped DRAMATICALLY, and my flushing episodes are not as frequent as they used
to be.  (Indeed, aspartame, even after the initial 30 days is very hard on
me...I drank a sugar-free Red Bull yesterday, and I still flushed lots...So I
have been taking notes on what I can and can't eat, and I bring the "Can Eat"
list when I shop.  It's fun, and it's systematic.)

Yet we all know that stress is a prime factor for many rosacea sufferers...I had
to stop and think: "This condition is great in the sense that it encourages us
not to lead lives as stressful as we may accept if we did not have rosacea and
did things for the money, or for the glory, etc" and "it also encourages us not
to gorge out like so many Americans on junk food and be gluttons".  Hey, it's
all about attitude, right?....Sure I have days when I'm almost in tears thinking
about what I could have done in the past, etc., if I could have avoided this
condition (as I'm sure the rest of you have done too), but I think we all know
that this condition was supposed to be ours to embrace, one of our lessons, one
of our challenges, that's why this group is here---solidarity and knowing that
we are not alone in our experiences.

Another thing, then I'll go: This war along with so many random deaths here in
our own country and abroad should remind us that, seriously, we are
alive!...Life is a gift...I mean, this condition is probably particularly
difficult esp. here in the U.S. or in England (as a few members recently posted
from there) because our standards of living are so high, and we have so much
opportunity, there seems to be a cure out there for everything.  And we see so
much beauty and bling-bling on tv and out and about, etc. that we forget that
our condition is manageable, and it is NOT TERMINAL, it's topical.  If anything,
it may help us in the long-term because we'll eat less junk food, have better
heart rates because we stray from stress, etc...And bottom line: Dealing with
rosacea in the U.S. or in England or in any 1st world country is much better
than being ALMOST ANYONE who does not have rosacea and who has perfect skin in
any 3rd world country.  (I'm ranting and raving because I've spoken lots with my
cousin who just got back from a tour in Iraq, and he's going back next year and
I just wanted to share my thoughts with you guys---those of you who aren't
asleep yet from reading this long-winded soapbox-y post).

Anyways, I'm rambling so I'll go now.

My parting quote:  May we all seek to have better skin whilst we seek to lead
better lives.

Warmest,
Mike H.

P.S. I won't be too soapbox-y too often. I promise.  This is a rarity.



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#2513

From: "Tricia Nault" <DoomyGloomy@...>
Date: Mon May 24, 2004 12:21 pm
Subject: RE: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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Hello,
And thankyou to Gigi and all of you that responded to me with support.  It
is really appreciated.
Actually after I wrote my initial email, a few days later, I could and still
can see some improvement in my face, and I haven't even reached the full 30
days yet.  I'm really happy that I found this diet and this support group.
Thanks again,
Tricia


>From: "gigi90803" <gigi90803@...>
>Reply-To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
>To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re: New Person with Questions
>about Diet
>Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 21:50:25 -0000
>



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#2511

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Sat May 22, 2004 5:35 pm
Subject: Anti-demodex Cream with 2% Metronidazole

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According to Dr. Nase, there is "a new anti-demodex cream with 2% metronidazole.

There have been various versions out there for quite a while..... most of them
causing
irritation and without results. I am intrigued by this new cream that has shown
almost
complete erradication of demodex after 3 to 4 months of use (via biopsy). You
can
purchase this online (OTC)....The Xin Fumanling cream is a medicated cream.
It contains:
2% Metronidazole
Radix Angelicae Dahuricae
Radix Stemonae
And other herbs."

http://rosacea-diet.com/html/tip.html#antidemodexmetronidazole

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#2508

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Sat May 22, 2004 6:24 am
Subject: Salicylic Acid Peeling in the Treatment of Rosacea

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A study performed on 10 patients (9 females and 1 male, aged between 30 and=
  45
years) affected by papulo-pustular rosacea has been released. All patients =
were
treated with topical 0.75% metronidazole and with systemic tetracyclines or=

clarithromycin until complete or almost complete resolution of the papulopu=
stular
lesions. Patients were then treated with a series of 3–4 peelings with a 25=
% salicylic
acid solution performed at 3–4 weeks intervals. Complete resolution of the =
remaining
inflammatory lesions and improvement of erythrosis was obtained in all the =
patients.
Salicylic acid penetrated more deeply in the areas of inflammation which sh=
owed
decreased erythema; papule and pustules were rapidly dried at 1 or 2 days a=
fter the
peeling. These beneficial aspects of salicylic acid peeling are probably de=
termined by
the antimmicrobic activity of salicylic acid which also stimulates fibrobla=
sts inducing
an improvement of the vascular component of rosacea.  For more info >

http://rosacea-diet.com/html/tip.html#salicylic-acid

What I find interesting about this study is that skin peels are used.

Brady

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#2507

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Sat May 22, 2004 12:24 am
Subject: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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Eric,

Good.  In twenty more days you will notice
improvement.  This diet works.  Don't cheat.

Brady


--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, Eric <lektaric@y..=
.>
wrote:
> If I drank anymore water I'd grow gills.  I've never
> realized how much water is really recommended.
>
> --- Brady Barrows <bradybarrows@h...> wrote:
> > Eric,
> > Are you drinking enough water?
> >
> > Brady
> >
> > --- In
> > rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com,
> > Eric <lektaric@y..=
> > .>
> > wrote:
> > > I'm on day 11 myself and have been very strict
> > with my
> > > diet.  I haven't seen any change except for a bit
> > > worse really.
> > >
> > > Hoping things will change.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- tnault2004 <DoomyGloomy@m...> wrote:
> > > > Hello!
> > > > I am on day 19 of the Rosacea Diet and I have
> > some
> > > > questions about
> > > > the effects or lack of effects that I'm seeing.
> > > > There are a number of foods on the diet that I
> > had
> > > > previously
> > > > determined were triggering my face to flush: ie.
> > > > cheese, vinegar.  On
> > > > the diet, these things are still bothering my
> > face.
> > > > I guess I don't
> > > > know if reducing the sugar/carbs I eat is
> > suppose to
> > > > replace not
> > > > eating the other problem foods, but it seems
> > that my
> > > > reactions to the
> > > > cheese and vinegar among other things, is not
> > > > letting me see any
> > > > difference in my face.
> > > > Maybe it's too soon to tell?  Maybe I have to
> > wait
> > > > the full 30 days?
> > > > My other question is about salt.  I've noticed
> > on
> > > > this diet that
> > > > eating things high in salt,(meat, nuts) is
> > causing
> > > > my face to flush
> > > > as well.  Unsalted nuts are ok, and chicken
> > doesn't
> > > > seem to bother
> > > > me.  Has anyone had similar experiences with
> > salt or
> > > > with the other
> > > > things that I mentioned?
> > > > Thanks very much!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
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#2506

From: Eric <lektaric@...>
Date: Fri May 21, 2004 7:12 pm
Subject: Re: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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If I drank anymore water I'd grow gills.  I've never
realized how much water is really recommended.

--- Brady Barrows <bradybarrows@...> wrote:
> Eric,
> Are you drinking enough water?
>
> Brady
>
> --- In
> rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com,
> Eric <lektaric@y..=
> .>
> wrote:
> > I'm on day 11 myself and have been very strict
> with my
> > diet.  I haven't seen any change except for a bit
> > worse really.
> >
> > Hoping things will change.
> >
> >
> > --- tnault2004 <DoomyGloomy@m...> wrote:
> > > Hello!
> > > I am on day 19 of the Rosacea Diet and I have
> some
> > > questions about
> > > the effects or lack of effects that I'm seeing.
> > > There are a number of foods on the diet that I
> had
> > > previously
> > > determined were triggering my face to flush: ie.
> > > cheese, vinegar.  On
> > > the diet, these things are still bothering my
> face.
> > > I guess I don't
> > > know if reducing the sugar/carbs I eat is
> suppose to
> > > replace not
> > > eating the other problem foods, but it seems
> that my
> > > reactions to the
> > > cheese and vinegar among other things, is not
> > > letting me see any
> > > difference in my face.
> > > Maybe it's too soon to tell?  Maybe I have to
> wait
> > > the full 30 days?
> > > My other question is about salt.  I've noticed
> on
> > > this diet that
> > > eating things high in salt,(meat, nuts) is
> causing
> > > my face to flush
> > > as well.  Unsalted nuts are ok, and chicken
> doesn't
> > > seem to bother
> > > me.  Has anyone had similar experiences with
> salt or
> > > with the other
> > > things that I mentioned?
> > > Thanks very much!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#2502

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Fri May 21, 2004 2:28 am
Subject: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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Eric,
Are you drinking enough water?

Brady

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, Eric <lektaric@y..=
.>
wrote:
> I'm on day 11 myself and have been very strict with my
> diet.  I haven't seen any change except for a bit
> worse really.
>
> Hoping things will change.
>
>
> --- tnault2004 <DoomyGloomy@m...> wrote:
> > Hello!
> > I am on day 19 of the Rosacea Diet and I have some
> > questions about
> > the effects or lack of effects that I'm seeing.
> > There are a number of foods on the diet that I had
> > previously
> > determined were triggering my face to flush: ie.
> > cheese, vinegar.  On
> > the diet, these things are still bothering my face.
> > I guess I don't
> > know if reducing the sugar/carbs I eat is suppose to
> > replace not
> > eating the other problem foods, but it seems that my
> > reactions to the
> > cheese and vinegar among other things, is not
> > letting me see any
> > difference in my face.
> > Maybe it's too soon to tell?  Maybe I have to wait
> > the full 30 days?
> > My other question is about salt.  I've noticed on
> > this diet that
> > eating things high in salt,(meat, nuts) is causing
> > my face to flush
> > as well.  Unsalted nuts are ok, and chicken doesn't
> > seem to bother
> > me.  Has anyone had similar experiences with salt or
> > with the other
> > things that I mentioned?
> > Thanks very much!
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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#2501

From: Eric <lektaric@...>
Date: Fri May 21, 2004 12:03 am
Subject: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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I'm on day 11 myself and have been very strict with my
diet.  I haven't seen any change except for a bit
worse really.

Hoping things will change.


--- tnault2004 <DoomyGloomy@...> wrote:
> Hello!
> I am on day 19 of the Rosacea Diet and I have some
> questions about
> the effects or lack of effects that I'm seeing.
> There are a number of foods on the diet that I had
> previously
> determined were triggering my face to flush: ie.
> cheese, vinegar.  On
> the diet, these things are still bothering my face.
> I guess I don't
> know if reducing the sugar/carbs I eat is suppose to
> replace not
> eating the other problem foods, but it seems that my
> reactions to the
> cheese and vinegar among other things, is not
> letting me see any
> difference in my face.
> Maybe it's too soon to tell?  Maybe I have to wait
> the full 30 days?
> My other question is about salt.  I've noticed on
> this diet that
> eating things high in salt,(meat, nuts) is causing
> my face to flush
> as well.  Unsalted nuts are ok, and chicken doesn't
> seem to bother
> me.  Has anyone had similar experiences with salt or
> with the other
> things that I mentioned?
> Thanks very much!
>
>





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#2500

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Date: Thu May 20, 2004 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 555

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In a message dated 5/20/04 3:11:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Dear tnault2004

I am going on my third year of being rosacea free solely from the rosacea
diet.
Yes, indeed, I had to avoid all aged cheeses.  I found mozzarella the best
one for me.  I have now graduated to veggie cheese and/or rice cheese.  That
way I can have the taste of cheddar and swiss without any side effects. I too
cannot use vinggar at all....I decided it was because it was fermented.  I
also have to limit my salt and have opted to use salt free seasonings to
enhance the flavor of my foods.

Some rosacea triggers are common to all of us, and some are unique to
each person.  Congratulations on your 19 days...I would eliminate anything
suspect for you for the 30 days and then re-introduce those foods one by one
after your 30 days. The rosacea diet is a powerful and self awareness
journey.
I was such a mess and desperate when I found this diet and now I am totally
filled with gratitude for Brady and his book, especially when someone
comments on how great my face looks.

I wish great success to you and when you find a troublesome food, let us
know so we can tell you about the alternatives we have found.

Lee.   .




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#2499

From: "gigi90803" <gigi90803@...>
Date: Thu May 20, 2004 9:50 pm
Subject: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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Tricia,

I'm still new to this diet.  Next week will be my one month, and
I've actually not cheated, and have no intentions to.  Well, that
isn't fair to say.  The sugar alcohols are tricky.  I know they're a
no-no at first, but I have had a little bit of them.

Here's the thing, just when I thought things were going well with my
face, I went on a field trip with my son today.  It was about 85
degrees and HUMID.  My face is still beat red.   Not to get
discouraged, I'm going to keep doing this diet, because I am
starting to see slight improvement.

Hang in there.

-gigi

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-
group@yahoogroups.com, "tnault2004" <DoomyGloomy@m...> wrote:
> Thankyou Pam!  This helps.
> Tricia
>
> --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Pam
Tobey"
> <ptobey@a...> wrote:
> > For me, on the diet, I still had (and have) to avoid my trigger
> foods.
> > I ate the proteins and all recommended that I knew didn't
trigger my
> > rosacea. And if I tried something new, it made it a bit easier
to
> know
> > when it was a trigger. I've been adding back vegetables, but
recent
> > stress created a resurgence, so I'm going to have to go back to
the
> > beginning and give my face a break.
> > Pam in DC

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From: "tnault2004" <DoomyGloomy@...>
Date: Thu May 20, 2004 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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Thankyou Pam!  This helps.
Tricia

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Pam Tobey"
<ptobey@a...> wrote:
> For me, on the diet, I still had (and have) to avoid my trigger
foods.
> I ate the proteins and all recommended that I knew didn't trigger my
> rosacea. And if I tried something new, it made it a bit easier to
know
> when it was a trigger. I've been adding back vegetables, but recent
> stress created a resurgence, so I'm going to have to go back to the
> beginning and give my face a break.
> Pam in DC

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From: "Pam Tobey" <ptobey@...>
Date: Thu May 20, 2004 5:21 pm
Subject: Re: New Person with Questions about Diet

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For me, on the diet, I still had (and have) to avoid my trigger foods.
I ate the proteins and all recommended that I knew didn't trigger my
rosacea. And if I tried something new, it made it a bit easier to know
when it was a trigger. I've been adding back vegetables, but recent
stress created a resurgence, so I'm going to have to go back to the
beginning and give my face a break.
Pam in DC

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#2496

From: "tnault2004" <DoomyGloomy@...>
Date: Thu May 20, 2004 4:11 pm
Subject: New Person with Questions about Diet

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Hello!
I am on day 19 of the Rosacea Diet and I have some questions about
the effects or lack of effects that I'm seeing.
There are a number of foods on the diet that I had previously
determined were triggering my face to flush: ie. cheese, vinegar.  On
the diet, these things are still bothering my face.  I guess I don't
know if reducing the sugar/carbs I eat is suppose to replace not
eating the other problem foods, but it seems that my reactions to the
cheese and vinegar among other things, is not letting me see any
difference in my face.
Maybe it's too soon to tell?  Maybe I have to wait the full 30 days?
My other question is about salt.  I've noticed on this diet that
eating things high in salt,(meat, nuts) is causing my face to flush
as well.  Unsalted nuts are ok, and chicken doesn't seem to bother
me.  Has anyone had similar experiences with salt or with the other
things that I mentioned?
Thanks very much!

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#2495

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2004 6:00 am
Subject: Re: Cause of Rosacea? - Psychological?

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Suz,

I am intrigued with your psychological theory
on rosacea.  I have seemed to have overlooked that
there is some actual psychological aspect to rosacea.
This is a real eye opener.  I will get Dr. Sarno's
book and find out what you are talking about.
Thanks so much for being a moderator and
posting your success over rosacea.  I am willing
to try looking into this.

Brady


--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna Edgar"
<sedgar@s...> wrote:
> Brady,
>
> The only 'authority' I can refer you to is that guy Dr. John Sarno and
> his book 'Healing Back Pain' or 'The Mindbody prescription'.  Also, the
> fact that I no longer have rosacea which of course no one can see on
> this message board!  I still have the left over effects but no more
> flushing. It is not that I no longer have stress - I am a highly strung
> person who tends to be stressed quite a lot.  The "cure" does not
> involve me changing - because let's face it, that would be really hard!
> It is more that all I have to do is focus on the things that are
> bothering me and I had to do some personal therapy (all from the book.)
> I had to write a list of everything that bothered me when I was young
> and everything nowadays and also a description of my personality type.
> I have to look at the lists every day for about 4 weeks for approx 30
> minutes.  What happens (according to this doctor) is that the
> unconscious mind has got used to using the body to divert my focus away
> from emotional pain by causing physical discomfort in the body.
> Physical pain, skin problems etc are a very good way of doing that. That
> is where my attention goes!  As soon as I started to confront the
> emotional stresses, the game was up!  The unconscious mind finally got
> the message and stopped doing it. It is apparently the unconscious's way
> of protecting the conscious mind from feeling uncomfortable emotions.
> It took one week for me to see a complete reduction in back pain - as
> soon as the back pain starts to twinge again, I simply tell my
> unconscious to stop doing that and focus on what is bothering me.  It
> works like a charm!  Apparently, there is much we do not know about the
> way our brain works.  This doctor believes that the unconscious is very
> powerful - capable of controlling all systems in the body.  It can
> affect the immune system, the endocrine system etc.  He believes it is
> responsible for ulcers, headaches, most back pain and skin problems.
> All I know is since doing the work, my skin has changed dramatically.
>
> I know it all sounds a little out there!  Believe me - I am a real
> skeptic!  This guy, Dr. Sarno has cured around 12,000 people of back
> pain and magically all sorts of other problems go away.   This has been
> my experience.
>
> Suz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@h...]
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:14 PM
> To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re: Cause of Rosacea?
>
> Suz,
>
> I would also like to add this to
> the list but need some 'authority'
> or research paper to refer to that
> specifcally says rosacea has a
> psychological root.  I do know that
> stress is a trigger factor without
> a doubt. But that doesn't prove that
> stress is the cause any more than
> sun is the cause since it is also
> a trigger factor.
>
> However, if you get
> stressed again I will be looking
> for how you have managed to
> keep your rosacea controlled
> with no flare-ups.  If you get
> this under control, you should
> write a book and I will join your
> yahoo group!
>
> Brady
>
>
> --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna Edgar"
>
> <sedgar@s...> wrote:
> > Hey Brady,
> >
> > I would add psychological origin - the mind brings down the immune
> > system as a result of anxiety and stress.  I am so convinced of this
> > theory now as I no longer have Rosacea after doing Dr. Sarno's work
> for
> > my back pain from the book "healing back pain".  He addresses many
> other
> > conditions and when I met with him he told me that the Rosacea was
> just
> > another equivalent of my body responding to stress.  I went in the sun
> > this weekend with no reaction.- last summer I couldn't even stand in
> the
> > heat as it would make me flare.  I have no flare ups after exercise
> now
> > and my skin has stopped all the breaking out. It is such a miracle.  I
> > definitely think I have very sensitive skin and will continue to use
> all
> > the great gentle products like Zia cleansing gel etc. I recommend this
> > book to everyone.  I still choose to do the diet but can basically eat
> > any sugar I want with no reaction - of course I don't feel that good
> so
> > I prefer the high protein diet.
> > This is just my experience.  I was definitely diagnosed with Rosacea
> by
> > a dermatologist two years ago.
> > Thanks
> > Suz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kmajor [mailto:kmajor@s...]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 12:02 PM
> > To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Cause of Rosacea?
> >
> > Do you want to include fungal infection or allergic response
> > as overall categories, or do you see them within one of the
> > other categories?
> >
> > Vascular is missing the "s."
> > Dysfunction is misspelled.
> >
> > You've got quite a collection of theories on the page.  It
> > sure makes the point that no one knows for sure, doesn't it?
> >
> > >
> > > An immune system disfunction.
> > > An inflammatory process
> > > A bacterial infection.
> > > A vacular disorder.
> > > A combination of genetic
> > > predisposition and several
> > > types of environmental
> > > factors.
> >
> >
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From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2004 5:12 am
Subject: Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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I did some research and found this interesting statement at the NRS web site
about fungus and psychological theory on the cause of rosacea:

"The exact cause of rosacea is unknown, although several theories exist. One
theory
of rosacea's origin is that the disease may be a component of a more generalized
disorder of the blood vessels, which could explain why rosacea sufferers have a
tendency to flush. Another theory is that changes in normal skin bacteria or
infection
of the stomach by Helicobacter pylori may play a role. Other theories suggest
that the
condition is caused by microscopic skin mites (Demodex ), fungus, a malfunction
of
the connective tissue under the skin or even psychological factors. None of
these
possibilities has been proven." > National Rosacea Society source > http://
www.rosacea.org/patients/faq.html

So I have added to the list of
possible causes of rosacea:

(1) An immune system disfunction.
(2) An inflammatory process
(3) A bacterial infection.
(4) A vacular disorder.
(5) A combination of genetic predisposition and
several types of environmental factors
(6) A fungus
(7) Psychological disorder

Thanks to KMajor and Suz for helping me to add to
this list.  I have posted the change at this url >

http://rosacea-diet.com/html/cause.html

I find it odd that this group had more insight
into this question than the rosaceans group
who only posted two replies to the orginal post.
Cosmetics seems to more of a concern in that
group. That is why I like this group better.

Brady

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#2493

From: "Michael" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2004 4:57 am
Subject: Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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Errrr, should have read this post by Brady before I responded to Gigi...Anyways,
Brady and I are both in agreement here, Gigi...

Mike H.


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From: Brady Barrows [mailto: bradybarrows@...]
To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 03:53:03 -0000
Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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Gigi, <BR>
I think you are in the front runner for <BR>
winning the Rosacea Diet Humor Award<BR>
for 2004.  Keep it up.  <BR>
<BR>
Brady <BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, &quot;gigi90803&quot;
<BR>
&lt;gigi90803@y...&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; I know what caused my rosacea!  &lt;I'm kidding of course&gt;  I only know
<BR>
&gt; when my first flair up was.  I was about eight months pregnant, <BR>
&gt; sitting in the dentist chair, hating every second of having my teeth <BR>
&gt; cleaned.  That is one of the most unpleasant experiences I make <BR>
&gt; myself endure in life.  After that one visit, I went to the <BR>
&gt; restroom, looked in the mirror and said, &quot;what on earth is wrong <BR>
&gt; with my face?!?&quot;  It's all history since then.  I blame the
dentist.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Maybe they should put surgeon general warnings on dentist's chairs: <BR>
&gt; caution, the cleaning procedure used by dentists may cause Rosacea.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; -Gigi<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, &quot;Brady <BR>
&gt; Barrows&quot; &lt;bradybarrows@h...&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; &gt; I have just written this news item<BR>
&gt; &gt;  on the cause of rosacea:<BR>
&gt; &gt; <BR>
&gt; &gt; There are a number of theories <BR>
&gt; &gt; on the cause of rosacea and they <BR>
&gt; &gt; may basically be<BR>
&gt; &gt; <BR>
&gt; &gt; broke down into these popular <BR>
&gt; &gt; categories:<BR>
&gt; &gt; <BR>
&gt; &gt; An immune system disfunction.<BR>
&gt; &gt; An inflammatory process<BR>
&gt; &gt; A bacterial infection.<BR>
&gt; &gt; A vacular disorder.<BR>
&gt; &gt; A combination of genetic <BR>
&gt; &gt; predisposition and several <BR>
&gt; &gt; types of environmental<BR>
&gt; &gt; factors.<BR>
&gt; &gt; <BR>
&gt; &gt; None of these theories have been <BR>
&gt; &gt; proven nor is this list complete <BR>
&gt; &gt; since there are other theories that <BR>
&gt; &gt; may be added to this list in the future. <BR>
&gt; &gt; This is where I posted this &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; <BR>
&gt; &gt; <a
href="http://rosacea-diet.com/html/cause.html">http://rosacea-diet.com/html/caus\
e.html</a><BR>
&gt; &gt; <BR>
&gt; &gt; There are possibly other theories and I <BR>
&gt; &gt; would like to ask the group if there is<BR>
&gt; &gt; another category I should list just in <BR>
&gt; &gt; case I might have left an important <BR>
&gt; &gt; theory on the cause of rosacea. Thanks.<BR>
&gt; &gt; <BR>
&gt; &gt; group owner<BR>
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From: "Michael" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2004 4:56 am
Subject: Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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LOL!!.....I think I hear Best Rosacea Humor for the year possbily emanating from
this member....

Best,
Mike Hoeft


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From: gigi90803 [mailto: gigi90803@...]
To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 01:20:22 -0000
Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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<tt>
I know what caused my rosacea!  &lt;I'm kidding of course&gt;  I only know <BR>
when my first flair up was.  I was about eight months pregnant, <BR>
sitting in the dentist chair, hating every second of having my teeth <BR>
cleaned.  That is one of the most unpleasant experiences I make <BR>
myself endure in life.  After that one visit, I went to the <BR>
restroom, looked in the mirror and said, &quot;what on earth is wrong <BR>
with my face?!?&quot;  It's all history since then.  I blame the dentist.<BR>
<BR>
Maybe they should put surgeon general warnings on dentist's chairs: <BR>
caution, the cleaning procedure used by dentists may cause Rosacea.<BR>
<BR>
-Gigi<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, &quot;Brady <BR>
Barrows&quot; &lt;bradybarrows@h...&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; I have just written this news item<BR>
&gt;  on the cause of rosacea:<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; There are a number of theories <BR>
&gt; on the cause of rosacea and they <BR>
&gt; may basically be<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; broke down into these popular <BR>
&gt; categories:<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; An immune system disfunction.<BR>
&gt; An inflammatory process<BR>
&gt; A bacterial infection.<BR>
&gt; A vacular disorder.<BR>
&gt; A combination of genetic <BR>
&gt; predisposition and several <BR>
&gt; types of environmental<BR>
&gt; factors.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; None of these theories have been <BR>
&gt; proven nor is this list complete <BR>
&gt; since there are other theories that <BR>
&gt; may be added to this list in the future. <BR>
&gt; This is where I posted this &gt;<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; <a
href="http://rosacea-diet.com/html/cause.html">http://rosacea-diet.com/html/caus\
e.html</a><BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; There are possibly other theories and I <BR>
&gt; would like to ask the group if there is<BR>
&gt; another category I should list just in <BR>
&gt; case I might have left an important <BR>
&gt; theory on the cause of rosacea. Thanks.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; group owner<BR>
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#2491

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2004 3:53 am
Subject: Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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Gigi,
I think you are in the front runner for
winning the Rosacea Diet Humor Award
for 2004.  Keep it up.

Brady


--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "gigi90803"
<gigi90803@y...> wrote:
> I know what caused my rosacea!  <I'm kidding of course>  I only know
> when my first flair up was.  I was about eight months pregnant,
> sitting in the dentist chair, hating every second of having my teeth
> cleaned.  That is one of the most unpleasant experiences I make
> myself endure in life.  After that one visit, I went to the
> restroom, looked in the mirror and said, "what on earth is wrong
> with my face?!?"  It's all history since then.  I blame the dentist.
>
> Maybe they should put surgeon general warnings on dentist's chairs:
> caution, the cleaning procedure used by dentists may cause Rosacea.
>
> -Gigi
>
>
>
> --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Brady
> Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...> wrote:
> > I have just written this news item
> >  on the cause of rosacea:
> >
> > There are a number of theories
> > on the cause of rosacea and they
> > may basically be
> >
> > broke down into these popular
> > categories:
> >
> > An immune system disfunction.
> > An inflammatory process
> > A bacterial infection.
> > A vacular disorder.
> > A combination of genetic
> > predisposition and several
> > types of environmental
> > factors.
> >
> > None of these theories have been
> > proven nor is this list complete
> > since there are other theories that
> > may be added to this list in the future.
> > This is where I posted this >
> >
> > http://rosacea-diet.com/html/cause.html
> >
> > There are possibly other theories and I
> > would like to ask the group if there is
> > another category I should list just in
> > case I might have left an important
> > theory on the cause of rosacea. Thanks.
> >
> > group owner

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#2490

From: "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2004 3:51 am
Subject: Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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Suz,

Thanks for the tip.  I will meditate on this
one and see where I can put it on the list.
It is wonderful you have been 'cured' and
hope it stays that way.  I hope you stay in
the group and be a moderato but I can
accept your 'cure.' I believe you.  I don't
know if this treatment will help more
rosaceans but time will tell.

Brady


--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna Edgar"
<sedgar@s...> wrote:
> Brady,
>
> The only 'authority' I can refer you to is that guy Dr. John Sarno and
> his book 'Healing Back Pain' or 'The Mindbody prescription'.  Also, the
> fact that I no longer have rosacea which of course no one can see on
> this message board!  I still have the left over effects but no more
> flushing. It is not that I no longer have stress - I am a highly strung
> person who tends to be stressed quite a lot.  The "cure" does not
> involve me changing - because let's face it, that would be really hard!
> It is more that all I have to do is focus on the things that are
> bothering me and I had to do some personal therapy (all from the book.)
> I had to write a list of everything that bothered me when I was young
> and everything nowadays and also a description of my personality type.
> I have to look at the lists every day for about 4 weeks for approx 30
> minutes.  What happens (according to this doctor) is that the
> unconscious mind has got used to using the body to divert my focus away
> from emotional pain by causing physical discomfort in the body.
> Physical pain, skin problems etc are a very good way of doing that. That
> is where my attention goes!  As soon as I started to confront the
> emotional stresses, the game was up!  The unconscious mind finally got
> the message and stopped doing it. It is apparently the unconscious's way
> of protecting the conscious mind from feeling uncomfortable emotions.
> It took one week for me to see a complete reduction in back pain - as
> soon as the back pain starts to twinge again, I simply tell my
> unconscious to stop doing that and focus on what is bothering me.  It
> works like a charm!  Apparently, there is much we do not know about the
> way our brain works.  This doctor believes that the unconscious is very
> powerful - capable of controlling all systems in the body.  It can
> affect the immune system, the endocrine system etc.  He believes it is
> responsible for ulcers, headaches, most back pain and skin problems.
> All I know is since doing the work, my skin has changed dramatically.
>
> I know it all sounds a little out there!  Believe me - I am a real
> skeptic!  This guy, Dr. Sarno has cured around 12,000 people of back
> pain and magically all sorts of other problems go away.   This has been
> my experience.
>
> Suz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@h...]
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:14 PM
> To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re: Cause of Rosacea?
>
> Suz,
>
> I would also like to add this to
> the list but need some 'authority'
> or research paper to refer to that
> specifcally says rosacea has a
> psychological root.  I do know that
> stress is a trigger factor without
> a doubt. But that doesn't prove that
> stress is the cause any more than
> sun is the cause since it is also
> a trigger factor.
>
> However, if you get
> stressed again I will be looking
> for how you have managed to
> keep your rosacea controlled
> with no flare-ups.  If you get
> this under control, you should
> write a book and I will join your
> yahoo group!
>
> Brady
>
>
> --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna Edgar"
>
> <sedgar@s...> wrote:
> > Hey Brady,
> >
> > I would add psychological origin - the mind brings down the immune
> > system as a result of anxiety and stress.  I am so convinced of this
> > theory now as I no longer have Rosacea after doing Dr. Sarno's work
> for
> > my back pain from the book "healing back pain".  He addresses many
> other
> > conditions and when I met with him he told me that the Rosacea was
> just
> > another equivalent of my body responding to stress.  I went in the sun
> > this weekend with no reaction.- last summer I couldn't even stand in
> the
> > heat as it would make me flare.  I have no flare ups after exercise
> now
> > and my skin has stopped all the breaking out. It is such a miracle.  I
> > definitely think I have very sensitive skin and will continue to use
> all
> > the great gentle products like Zia cleansing gel etc. I recommend this
> > book to everyone.  I still choose to do the diet but can basically eat
> > any sugar I want with no reaction - of course I don't feel that good
> so
> > I prefer the high protein diet.
> > This is just my experience.  I was definitely diagnosed with Rosacea
> by
> > a dermatologist two years ago.
> > Thanks
> > Suz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kmajor [mailto:kmajor@s...]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 12:02 PM
> > To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Cause of Rosacea?
> >
> > Do you want to include fungal infection or allergic response
> > as overall categories, or do you see them within one of the
> > other categories?
> >
> > Vascular is missing the "s."
> > Dysfunction is misspelled.
> >
> > You've got quite a collection of theories on the page.  It
> > sure makes the point that no one knows for sure, doesn't it?
> >
> > >
> > > An immune system disfunction.
> > > An inflammatory process
> > > A bacterial infection.
> > > A vacular disorder.
> > > A combination of genetic
> > > predisposition and several
> > > types of environmental
> > > factors.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#2489

From: "gigi90803" <gigi90803@...>
Date: Wed May 19, 2004 1:20 am
Subject: Re: Cause of Rosacea?

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I know what caused my rosacea!  <I'm kidding of course>  I only know
when my first flair up was.  I was about eight months pregnant,
sitting in the dentist chair, hating every second of having my teeth
cleaned.  That is one of the most unpleasant experiences I make
myself endure in life.  After that one visit, I went to the
restroom, looked in the mirror and said, "what on earth is wrong
with my face?!?"  It's all history since then.  I blame the dentist.

Maybe they should put surgeon general warnings on dentist's chairs:
caution, the cleaning procedure used by dentists may cause Rosacea.

-Gigi

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Brady
Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...> wrote:
> I have just written this news item
>  on the cause of rosacea:
>
> There are a number of theories
> on the cause of rosacea and they
> may basically be
>
> broke down into these popular
> categories:
>
> An immune system disfunction.
> An inflammatory process
> A bacterial infection.
> A vacular disorder.
> A combination of genetic
> predisposition and several
> types of environmental
> factors.
>
> None of these theories have been
> proven nor is this list complete
> since there are other theories that
> may be added to this list in the future.
> This is where I posted this >
>
> http://rosacea-diet.com/html/cause.html
>
> There are possibly other theories and I
> would like to ask the group if there is
> another category I should list just in
> case I might have left an important
> theory on the cause of rosacea. Thanks.
>
> group owner

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