Suz,

I do believe that Dr. Sarno's theory is valid and
will try to practice his technique of accepting
the diagnosis and not letting my subconscious
break out my face with pustules and flares. I
think this will take some time for me to master
but I am working on it now.

My theory on why some people can eat sugar
and get away with it is simple and my illustration
in the book of taking a revolver to your head
with one bullet and spinning the chamber and
shooting it and you get a 'click' rather than
the bullet explains it. Whether your body can
accept such huge does of sugar the typical
American diet has become and not be effected
with cardiovascular disease, diabetes, rosacea,
other skin conditions, or other diseases is a
simple matter of odds. Some make it into their
eighties or ninties eating sugar all the way
while if you look at the odds most don't. Some
disease gets them and it appears that the
huge number of rosaceans on the planet
particularly in the developed world can be
seen by comparing the huge amount of sugar
in the diet. Of course, more research needs
to be done on this.

By the way, I have written Dr. Sarno a letter
asking him if he would be a member of the
Think Tank for the irosacea.org I have founded.
I realize it is a long shot but I am trying. Did
you attend his lectures and how about a report
on your experience with that?

Brady

--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna Edgar"
<sedgar@s...> wrote:
> Brady,
> I am so glad that you found it interesting. I have been doing the TMS
> work for 4 months now. My back pain has not totally gone away, and my
> skin still breaks out a little - but nothing like it used to. I don't
> flush in the same way and can go in the sun with no problems. My
> rosacea started at a very stressful time in my life -the dermatologist
> even asked me if I had unusual stress -now I know that is why it began.
> Sarno believes it is just the autonomic nervous system in the brain
> using that part of the body to divert our attention away from emotional
> issues. It appears that the brain prefers us to have discomfort
> physically than emotionally - sort of a diversion mechanism. With
> regards to my back, I am 80% better - off all pain medication and
> exercising now. I imagine in time, it will go away entirely with a
> resolution of my skin as well. I also suffer from IBS which according
> to Sarno is the same thing. All I do is continue to read the book and
> focus on emotional things as soon as my pain flares up. Apparently, one
> can intellectually accept the diagnosis, but the unconscious is slow to
> let up on this pattern of behaviour and takes its sweet time! I have
> found it very effective to ignore my skin problems - just shrug them
> off. Within a few days, my few pimples clear up very quickly.
> I suspect - but this is just a theory that your diet may act as a
> placebo - very effective. However, I am also convinced that ingesting
> sugar leads to added inflammation. Although, I ask myself why many
> people I know eat carbohydrates and lots of sugar with no effect on
> their skin. Why? How come they are different?
> Suz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@h...]
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:30 PM
> To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] John Sarno, MD (Was Re:
> stress)
>
> Suz,
> I finally got around to reading Dr. Sarno's book
> 'Healing Back Pain.' After getting through all the
> different diagnois for back pain I did find the
> entire theory that TMS may be responsible for
> other problems like skin conditions interesting.
> I am trying to apply his theory that built up anger
> and other repressed feelings in the subconscious
> maybe the culprit for rosacea. I just finished the
> book yesterday and obviously it will take some
> time to see if there is any difference. I will try to
> get his other book, 'The Mind Body Prescription.'
>
> I found the chapter on the Placebo Effect helpful
> to understand that the mind does effect the
> body and that it may be possible to use our mind
> to help control rosacea. As he says, it is obvious
> that more research needs to be done on this.
> TMS (Tension Myositis Sydrome) may have something
> to do with rosacea and I am going to try to apply
> his technique in my life. Stress is no doubt one
> of the major triggers for rosacea and is on EVERY
> list as one of the triggers. For the last six months
> I have had way too much stress and his book
> has opened my eyes to why my rosacea is
> been giving me fits again. Right now after just
> reading Dr. Sarno's book my face is calmer and
> much improved. (It may be possible that the
> stress of using the DMSO Fluconazle effected
> my subconscious and aggravated my rosacea
> since there are so many unknown factors
> responsible for rosacea.) I just wanted to thank
> you for recommending his book to the group
> and I second the motion.
>
> I recommend to the group reading his book and seeing if others
> like Suz have found improvement in their rosacea.
>
> Suz, you say below that you actually took one of his
> lectures and I wonder how it is going after applying
> his method from hearing him personally?
>
> Brady Barrows
> group owner
>
>
> --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna Edgar"
>
> <sedgar@s...> wrote:
> > Sorry - forgot the name of the doctor is: Dr. John Sarno. His
> practice
> > is in New York. If anyone has any unresolved back problems in
> addition
> > to their rosacea - I highly recommend him.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Suzanna Edgar
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:30 PM
> > To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] stress
> >
> > Hey Brady
> > The name of the book is: 'healing back Pain" - or his latest one is
> "The
> > Mind Body prescription". I just went to see the author/doctor
> > yesterday. He has been practicing medicine for about 35 years and
> came
> > to these conclusions about 20 years ago - very well respected in his
> > field of rehab medicine. He was adamant that my symptoms of rosacea
> are
> > from anxiety - he said that these feelings are buried very deep in the
> > unconscious and are common in everyone. When they become too much for
> > the mind to take, they overspill - instead of dealing with them -the
> > unconscious uses the body to divert the attention away from the
> emotion
> > as it is too hard to deal with. Pain is very effective in doing this.
> I
> > have had crippling sciatic pain for 12 years now and it has totally
> gone
> > after reading the book. Coincidentally my skin cleared up. I still
> > have IBS - he said that is now what my mind is using instead. The
> cure
> > is based on education - very doable for most people. I am amazed by
> > these results but cannot argue with facts! I am definitely not eating
> > lots of sugar as I prefer a high protein, veggie based diet - so much
> > healthier for me. But I no longer feel restricted - sort of free!
> Even
> > after exercise, I am flushing normally - goes away immediately. It is
> > miraculous! I think the book is very effective for a lot of people.
> I
> > decided to see him and be properly diagnosed with "TMS" as I have had
> > back pain for so long. All my MRIs were clear and it was my
> > rheumatologist who referred me. I think this could be a break through
> > for many conditions. I am next doing a 2 hour lecture with him and
> then
> > have to do work on my own for about 4 weeks - hopefully by then, my
> > symptoms of IBS (intestinal irregularities) will be cured. Pretty
> > unbelievable!!
> > Suz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@h...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:43 PM
> > To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] stress
> >
> > Suz,
> >
> > Congratulations on discovering this
> > tip. Stress is on every rosacea trigger list. I
> > know that it effects my rosacea. Must
> > be nice to be able to eat sugar but so far
> > I haven't been able to. So what is
> > the name of the book?
> >
> > B
> >
> > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna
> Edgar"
> >
> > <sedgar@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi Brady and everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently had an interesting experience with my Rosacea. I have
> > > recently been diagnosed with TMS - my back pain has been attributed
> to
> > a
> > > stress condition called TMS. This is where my mind - instead of
> > dealing
> > > with anxiety or anger - chooses a group of muscles in my body
> > > (unbeknownst to me) deprives them of oxygen (causing terrible nerve
> > and
> > > muscle pain) - this then diverts my attention away from dealing with
> > the
> > > emotional problem. Apparently the mind can use the body in other
> ways
> > -
> > > TMS can be responsible for acid problems leading to stomach ulcers
> > etc.
> > > The cure is very simple - but not that easy! It involves educating
> > the
> > > individual to realize that there is nothing structurally wrong - it
> is
> > > just the subconscious mind's clever trickery. It sounded so crazy
> to
> > me
> > > initially -but I am now totally out of pain. I have been unable to
> > > exercise for 4 years now and have had the pain for about 12 years.
> It
> > > got really bad two years ago - about the same time I got Rosacea.
> Dr.
> > > Sarno (the guy who came up with the condition) - also says that skin
> > > problems can be attributed to this as well. Anyway, miraculously -
> my
> > > skin has totally cleared - all happened at the same time. The pain
> > went
> > > away after two days of reading Sarno's book and I noticed that my
> skin
> > > stopped flushing and all pimples started to go away. I can now eat
> any
> > > kind of sugar and not flush!!!! I do not entirely understand this
> but
> > > am now wondering if rosacea is the mind's way of dealing with stress
> -
> > > it diverts the person away from thinking about their problems. I
> > > highly recommend Sarno's book "healing back pain" - it seems to work
> > for
> > > other problems. After all - people have panic attacks - body freaks
> > out
> > > as a result of extreme anxiety.
> > >
> > > Sorry this was so long - but thought it could be valuable
> > > Suz
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@h...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:08 AM
> > > To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re: effective
> carbohydrate
> > >
> > > I told you it would be difficult.
> > > You can do it. There are hundreds
> > > that have done it and it is worth
> > > seeing your clear face.
> > >
> > > B
> > >
> > > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "gigi90803"
>
> > > <gigi90803@y...> wrote:
> > > > How are you doing on it and has
> > > > > it improved your rosacea yet?
> > > >
> > > > Brady,
> > > >
> > > > I still cheat. I am so addicted to carbohydrates, once I start
> > > > eating them one day, I might as well give it up until tomorrow.
> > > > It's either all or nothing for me. If I stay completely away, I
> can
> >
> > > > have a great food day, even a whole week's worth of good food
> days.
> >
> > > > But then one day I'll have just a bite of something evil (yes, the
>
> > > > carbs are evil) and it's all over.
> > > >
> > > > So I have yet to make it my 30 days on the diet, but I'm losing
> > > > weight slowly, and I believe you that this is the answer for my
> > > > rosacea. I just have to commit myself everyday to doing it.
> > > >
> > > > That is good news about the fiber.
> > > >
> > > > -Gigi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Brady
> > > > Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...> wrote:
> > > > > Gigi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Orginally I counted all the carbohydrate including the
> > > > > fiber. However all the evidence suggests you can subtract
> > > > > the fiber carbohydrate and count just what is left. I covered
> > > > > that in the 2003 Revision in the chapter on 'Fiber and Effective
> > > > > Carbohydrate,' so that allows you 'across the board.' That gives
>
> > > > > you a little more room for carbohydrate and a bit easier
> > > > > for the Rosacea Diet. >
> > > > > Brady
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-
> > > > group@yahoogroups.com, "gigi90803"
> > > > > <gigi90803@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Brady,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm still new to the Rosacea Diet, and my first question is
> > > > about
> > > > > > the effective carbs. I've heard both arguments. Am I to
> > > > understand
> > > > > > that we can subtract the fiber carbs and count what's left?
> Is
> > > > that
> > > > > > rule across the board?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Gigi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com,
> "Brady
> > > > > > Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > > Just to let you know that you can eat
> > > > > > > more than twice as many macadamia nuts
> > > > > > > as other nuts since there is only
> > > > > > > 1 gram of effective carbohydrate
> > > > > > > (3 grams of dietary fiber and 1 gram sugar)
> > > > > > > per quarter cup. That is more than half
> > > > > > > the amount of effective carbohydrate
> > > > > > > than mixed nuts (non-macadamia).
> > >
> > >
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