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RE: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] John Sarno, MD (Was Re: stress)

Brady,
I am so glad that you found it interesting. I have been doing the TMS
work for 4 months now. My back pain has not totally gone away, and my
skin still breaks out a little - but nothing like it used to. I don't
flush in the same way and can go in the sun with no problems. My
rosacea started at a very stressful time in my life -the dermatologist
even asked me if I had unusual stress -now I know that is why it began.
Sarno believes it is just the autonomic nervous system in the brain
using that part of the body to divert our attention away from emotional
issues. It appears that the brain prefers us to have discomfort
physically than emotionally - sort of a diversion mechanism. With
regards to my back, I am 80% better - off all pain medication and
exercising now. I imagine in time, it will go away entirely with a
resolution of my skin as well. I also suffer from IBS which according
to Sarno is the same thing. All I do is continue to read the book and
focus on emotional things as soon as my pain flares up. Apparently, one
can intellectually accept the diagnosis, but the unconscious is slow to
let up on this pattern of behaviour and takes its sweet time! I have
found it very effective to ignore my skin problems - just shrug them
off. Within a few days, my few pimples clear up very quickly.
I suspect - but this is just a theory that your diet may act as a
placebo - very effective. However, I am also convinced that ingesting
sugar leads to added inflammation. Although, I ask myself why many
people I know eat carbohydrates and lots of sugar with no effect on
their skin. Why? How come they are different?
Suz

-----Original Message-----
From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@...]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:30 PM
To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] John Sarno, MD (Was Re:
stress)

Suz,
I finally got around to reading Dr. Sarno's book
'Healing Back Pain.' After getting through all the
different diagnois for back pain I did find the
entire theory that TMS may be responsible for
other problems like skin conditions interesting.
I am trying to apply his theory that built up anger
and other repressed feelings in the subconscious
maybe the culprit for rosacea. I just finished the
book yesterday and obviously it will take some
time to see if there is any difference. I will try to
get his other book, 'The Mind Body Prescription.'

I found the chapter on the Placebo Effect helpful
to understand that the mind does effect the
body and that it may be possible to use our mind
to help control rosacea. As he says, it is obvious
that more research needs to be done on this.
TMS (Tension Myositis Sydrome) may have something
to do with rosacea and I am going to try to apply
his technique in my life. Stress is no doubt one
of the major triggers for rosacea and is on EVERY
list as one of the triggers. For the last six months
I have had way too much stress and his book
has opened my eyes to why my rosacea is
been giving me fits again. Right now after just
reading Dr. Sarno's book my face is calmer and
much improved. (It may be possible that the
stress of using the DMSO Fluconazle effected
my subconscious and aggravated my rosacea
since there are so many unknown factors
responsible for rosacea.) I just wanted to thank
you for recommending his book to the group
and I second the motion.

I recommend to the group reading his book and seeing if others
like Suz have found improvement in their rosacea.

Suz, you say below that you actually took one of his
lectures and I wonder how it is going after applying
his method from hearing him personally?

Brady Barrows
group owner


--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna Edgar"

<sedgar@s...> wrote:
> Sorry - forgot the name of the doctor is: Dr. John Sarno. His
practice
> is in New York. If anyone has any unresolved back problems in
addition
> to their rosacea - I highly recommend him.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suzanna Edgar
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:30 PM
> To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] stress
>
> Hey Brady
> The name of the book is: 'healing back Pain" - or his latest one is
"The
> Mind Body prescription". I just went to see the author/doctor
> yesterday. He has been practicing medicine for about 35 years and
came
> to these conclusions about 20 years ago - very well respected in his
> field of rehab medicine. He was adamant that my symptoms of rosacea
are
> from anxiety - he said that these feelings are buried very deep in the
> unconscious and are common in everyone. When they become too much for
> the mind to take, they overspill - instead of dealing with them -the
> unconscious uses the body to divert the attention away from the
emotion
> as it is too hard to deal with. Pain is very effective in doing this.
I
> have had crippling sciatic pain for 12 years now and it has totally
gone
> after reading the book. Coincidentally my skin cleared up. I still
> have IBS - he said that is now what my mind is using instead. The
cure
> is based on education - very doable for most people. I am amazed by
> these results but cannot argue with facts! I am definitely not eating
> lots of sugar as I prefer a high protein, veggie based diet - so much
> healthier for me. But I no longer feel restricted - sort of free!
Even
> after exercise, I am flushing normally - goes away immediately. It is
> miraculous! I think the book is very effective for a lot of people.
I
> decided to see him and be properly diagnosed with "TMS" as I have had
> back pain for so long. All my MRIs were clear and it was my
> rheumatologist who referred me. I think this could be a break through
> for many conditions. I am next doing a 2 hour lecture with him and
then
> have to do work on my own for about 4 weeks - hopefully by then, my
> symptoms of IBS (intestinal irregularities) will be cured. Pretty
> unbelievable!!
> Suz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:43 PM
> To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] stress
>
> Suz,
>
> Congratulations on discovering this
> tip. Stress is on every rosacea trigger list. I
> know that it effects my rosacea. Must
> be nice to be able to eat sugar but so far
> I haven't been able to. So what is
> the name of the book?
>
> B
>
> --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Suzanna
Edgar"
>
> <sedgar@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Brady and everyone,
> >
> > I recently had an interesting experience with my Rosacea. I have
> > recently been diagnosed with TMS - my back pain has been attributed
to
> a
> > stress condition called TMS. This is where my mind - instead of
> dealing
> > with anxiety or anger - chooses a group of muscles in my body
> > (unbeknownst to me) deprives them of oxygen (causing terrible nerve
> and
> > muscle pain) - this then diverts my attention away from dealing with
> the
> > emotional problem. Apparently the mind can use the body in other
ways
> -
> > TMS can be responsible for acid problems leading to stomach ulcers
> etc.
> > The cure is very simple - but not that easy! It involves educating
> the
> > individual to realize that there is nothing structurally wrong - it
is
> > just the subconscious mind's clever trickery. It sounded so crazy
to
> me
> > initially -but I am now totally out of pain. I have been unable to
> > exercise for 4 years now and have had the pain for about 12 years.
It
> > got really bad two years ago - about the same time I got Rosacea.
Dr.
> > Sarno (the guy who came up with the condition) - also says that skin
> > problems can be attributed to this as well. Anyway, miraculously -
my
> > skin has totally cleared - all happened at the same time. The pain
> went
> > away after two days of reading Sarno's book and I noticed that my
skin
> > stopped flushing and all pimples started to go away. I can now eat
any
> > kind of sugar and not flush!!!! I do not entirely understand this
but
> > am now wondering if rosacea is the mind's way of dealing with stress
-
> > it diverts the person away from thinking about their problems. I
> > highly recommend Sarno's book "healing back pain" - it seems to work
> for
> > other problems. After all - people have panic attacks - body freaks
> out
> > as a result of extreme anxiety.
> >
> > Sorry this was so long - but thought it could be valuable
> > Suz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brady Barrows [mailto:bradybarrows@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:08 AM
> > To: rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re: effective
carbohydrate
> >
> > I told you it would be difficult.
> > You can do it. There are hundreds
> > that have done it and it is worth
> > seeing your clear face.
> >
> > B
> >
> > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "gigi90803"

> > <gigi90803@y...> wrote:
> > > How are you doing on it and has
> > > > it improved your rosacea yet?
> > >
> > > Brady,
> > >
> > > I still cheat. I am so addicted to carbohydrates, once I start
> > > eating them one day, I might as well give it up until tomorrow.
> > > It's either all or nothing for me. If I stay completely away, I
can
>
> > > have a great food day, even a whole week's worth of good food
days.
>
> > > But then one day I'll have just a bite of something evil (yes, the

> > > carbs are evil) and it's all over.
> > >
> > > So I have yet to make it my 30 days on the diet, but I'm losing
> > > weight slowly, and I believe you that this is the answer for my
> > > rosacea. I just have to commit myself everyday to doing it.
> > >
> > > That is good news about the fiber.
> > >
> > > -Gigi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, "Brady
> > > Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...> wrote:
> > > > Gigi,
> > > >
> > > > Orginally I counted all the carbohydrate including the
> > > > fiber. However all the evidence suggests you can subtract
> > > > the fiber carbohydrate and count just what is left. I covered
> > > > that in the 2003 Revision in the chapter on 'Fiber and Effective
> > > > Carbohydrate,' so that allows you 'across the board.' That gives

> > > > you a little more room for carbohydrate and a bit easier
> > > > for the Rosacea Diet. >
> > > > Brady
> > > >
> > > > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-
> > > group@yahoogroups.com, "gigi90803"
> > > > <gigi90803@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Brady,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm still new to the Rosacea Diet, and my first question is
> > > about
> > > > > the effective carbs. I've heard both arguments. Am I to
> > > understand
> > > > > that we can subtract the fiber carbs and count what's left?
Is
> > > that
> > > > > rule across the board?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Gigi
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com,
"Brady
> > > > > Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...> wrote:
> > > > > > Just to let you know that you can eat
> > > > > > more than twice as many macadamia nuts
> > > > > > as other nuts since there is only
> > > > > > 1 gram of effective carbohydrate
> > > > > > (3 grams of dietary fiber and 1 gram sugar)
> > > > > > per quarter cup. That is more than half
> > > > > > the amount of effective carbohydrate
> > > > > > than mixed nuts (non-macadamia).
> >
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Gigi, Orginally I counted all the carbohydrate including the fiber. However all the evidence suggests you can subtract the fiber carbohydrate and count just...
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How are you doing on it and has ... Brady, I still cheat. I am so addicted to carbohydrates, once I start eating them one day, I might as well give it up until...
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I told you it would be difficult. You can do it. There are hundreds that have done it and it is worth seeing your clear face. B...
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Hi Brady and everyone, I recently had an interesting experience with my Rosacea. I have recently been diagnosed with TMS - my back pain has been attributed to...
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Suz, Congratulations on discovering this tip. Stress is on every rosacea trigger list. I know that it effects my rosacea. Must be nice to be able to eat...
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Hey Brady The name of the book is: 'healing back Pain" - or his latest one is "The Mind Body prescription". I just went to see the author/doctor yesterday....
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Sorry - forgot the name of the doctor is: Dr. John Sarno. His practice is in New York. If anyone has any unresolved back problems in addition to their...
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thanks Suz, and I hope it works also for your IBS. B...
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Suz, I finally got around to reading Dr. Sarno's book 'Healing Back Pain.' After getting through all the different diagnois for back pain I did find the ...
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Brady, I am so glad that you found it interesting. I have been doing the TMS work for 4 months now. My back pain has not totally gone away, and my skin still...
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Suz, I do believe that Dr. Sarno's theory is valid and will try to practice his technique of accepting the diagnosis and not letting my subconscious break out...
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Greetings all. I have one week and one day of successful dieting for my rosacea! My face isn't clear yet, but the longer I stay away from carbs, the easier...
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