Hi Deb and everyone,
Yes, regarding the clinic, I go to the one run by Dr Patrick Bitter,
Sr in San Francisco, so I know they are reputable. Last year when I
had a few photoderm treatments from them, they did mention something
about stopping tetracylines. But at that time, I was not taking any
antibiotics, so it wasn't an issue and I didn't bother to get the
full information on it. Now, if I went back, I would ask more
questions on that matter. But at the moment, I'm not doing any anti-
biotics, except for topicals like Metrogel and Klaron lotion. But
because I have these persistent red papules, especially on one side,
I am reconsidering getting the photoderm, even though I wasn't all
that impressed with the few I had done. But at least they did zap my
red spots and it dried they up. Anyway, thanks for the input. Deb,
have you ever done photoderm and were you satisfied with
it?.....Giovanna ( who has discovered the joys of hazelnut butter,
delicious and low carb, no sugar!)


--- In rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com, Debbie
Freeberg-Renwick <chinadebfr@y...> wrote:
> Thoroughly question your clinic that does the
> photoderm for you. They SHOULD tell you that these two
> are not compatable and if they don't, I would suspect
> there are other things they are overlooking or don't
> know. And in that case, I would look for another
> clinic. Tetracycline increases the skin's sensitivity
> to light. That is why they always say to make sure you
> wear sunscreen when taking them. Photoderm is a light
> treatment and you need your skin's natural resistance
> for protection and to get the most out of your
> treatment. Deb
>
> --- collageartist45 <collageartist45@y...> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I had a general question, re: use of tetracylcines.
> > I have heard that
> > if you are using them, or some other anti-biotic for
> > your rosacea,
> > and then if you want to start photoderm treatments,
> > you are best to
> > stop the tetracylines for a couple of weeks, at
> > least. Then you do
> > the photoderm treatments. Then start up the
> > tetracylines again later.
> > I was just wondering about this because I may decide
> > to go back to
> > doing a couple of photoderm treatments for some
> > persistent papules
> > and a red spot on one cheek.(Strange, but each cheek
> > is different for
> > me! One is clearly worse.) Anyway, I have not
> > started on any
> > tetracylines as of yet, and may not ever. But I
> > wondered about that
> > in combination with the photoderm. Can anybody speak
> > from experience
> > on this? .....Giovanna (still on the diet, and into
> > my 2nd month now)
> >
> > --- In rosacea-diet-users-support-
> > group@yahoogroups.com, "collageartist45"
> > <collageartist45@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi Suz, and Carla,
> > > Thanks for your responses concerning
> > tetracyclines, and for your
> > > concern. I have been on the rosacea diet for 3
> > weeks so far. It has
> > > DEFINITELY helped me with the random flushing that
> > was happening,
> > and
> > > my face for the most part has calmed down quite a
> > bit. So, I'm
> > > staying on it. However, the trouble I'm still
> > having is with some
> > red
> > > papules that don't go away, and a few
> > telangectasia. The other
> > > trouble I have is with occasional flushing due to
> > warm rooms or
> > > stress/excitement. When this happens, esp. the
> > stress-related
> > > flushes, the redness can stay for hours. Then
> > there's the random
> > > thing I eat, that can trigger it. (Today, I had
> > some chicken for
> > > lunch. Was that it? - I had not eaten chicken for
> > a while because I
> > > thought I was reacting to the niacin in it. But
> > when I ate it today
> > > for the first time in a long time, I didn't react.
> > But later
> > tonight,
> > > I ate some peanuts, and then within 30 minutes, my
> > cheeks flushed.
> > > So, was it the chicken from lunch, or the peanuts
> > at 6pm? I suspect
> > > it was the peanuts. Maybe I went over 30 carb
> > grams total for the
> > > day?) Anyway, maybe it's not possible to stop all
> > the flushing. But
> > I
> > > do want to eliminate as much as I can determine is
> > causing it. I
> > > started using Metrogel again in the last 2 days,
> > to see if it
> > helps.
> > > The first time I tried it, more than a year ago,
> > it didn't seem to
> > do
> > > anything. I also wash with Gia (very gentle) and
> > use a strong
> > > sunblock with titanium dioxide. I do eat cheese.
> > Maybe this is not
> > > good for getting rid of my papules? Not sure. I'll
> > keep trying to
> > > figure out how to best control the flushing and
> > also deal with the
> > > other effects too. Everyone's experiences help to
> > hear about,
> > because
> > > then I have new ideas and a basis of comparison,
> > as far as what
> > might
> > > work best for me. And I don't feel alone! So,
> > thanks!....Giovanna
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In
> > rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Suzanna
> > > Edgar" <sedgar@s...> wrote:
> > > > Dear Giovanna,
> > > > How long have you been on the diet? I also
> > suffer from papules
> > and
> > > > slight redness. The diet has completely stopped
> > the flushing and
> > my
> > > > skin is clearing of all papules. I actually had
> > to make one
> > > > modification - no dairy for me - so no cheese or
> > cream. This
> > makes
> > > a
> > > > big difference to the clearing of my skin. I
> > also was taking
> > > > tetracyclines - they are TERRIBLE for your GI
> > tract. They have
> > > made
> > > > matters worse for me. In the very short term,
> > they helped my
> > > papules go
> > > > away - they do nothing for the flushing. I have
> > found the diet
> > is
> > > the
> > > > best defense. I am taking nothing now - just
> > very careful with
> > skin
> > > > products. I use the Zia gel to wash and then I
> > use Linda Sy's
> > Zinco
> > > > cream for a moisturizer/sun protector. It gives
> > my skin a slight
> > > > glow/tan look - I love it. At night time, I put
> > noretate on -
> > this
> > > is a
> > > > prescriptive cream - I am not too sure if it
> > really does
> > anything.
> > > My
> > > > skin doesn't like the straight jojoba oil many
> > people recommend.
> > It
> > > > really takes me a full 3 weeks to see my skin
> > completely clear -
> > so
> > > how
> > > > far along are you?
> > > > Suz
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: collageartist45
> > [mailto:collageartist45@y...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 6:27 PM
> > > > To:
> > rosacea-diet-users-support-group@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [rosacea-diet-users-support-group] Re:
> > Thanks, and Also
> > > > Tetracylcines?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Brady, and hi to the group,
> > > > Thanks for your prompt reply, Brady. I am
> > reading what the web
> > > sites
> > > > you suggested say. Yes, I'm very familiar with
> > Dr. Nase's book.
> > His
> > > > was the first book I read on the subject of
> > rosacea. Because
> > there
> > > > are so many different theories about rosacea,
> > it's difficult to
> > > find
> > > > the right treatment methods. This rosacea diet
> > is surely helping
> > me
> > > > to control the flushing. (Thankfully!) But I
> > find that I still
> > have
> > > > the papules that don't seem to go away, and I
> > still tend to flush
> > > > when under stress, or when feeling excited (good
> > or bad) or when
> > in
> > > > warm rooms. I flush and can stay flushed for
> > hours. I'm
> > considering
> > > > going on tetracyclines, which one dermatologist
> > I sought out
> > keeps
> > > > recommending to me. But I'm hesitant, due to
> > concerns about
> > > screwing
> > > > up my GI tract. Does anyone out there have
> > something good to say
> > > > about using tetracyclines? Is it worth it? Have
> > you had many side
> > > > effects? Does it help with the flushing? I'm
> > learning as I go,
> > and
> > > > trying to find the best combination of things
> > that work for me.
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
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