For EVERYONE,
Recently, I was arbitrarily doing a "Google search", for (rosacea cure), or was
it ("cure rosacea")?  I don't remember, but on about the third page, (i.e. about
20 or 30 down on the list), I found the following website:
www.dr.syrokomsky.com

When I read the good doctor's description of his cure for rosacea, as at:
www.dr.syrokomsky.com/eng-page31.html
, my eyes grew wide and my jaw dropped wide open.

Almost every single point he names,
(i.e. "burning, redness, skin peeling"),
and every part of his many-months-long "regimen"
(for his cure for rosacea),
are identical to what I would expect for this
[DMSO + 10% fluconazole] treatment/cure.

HIS WEBSITE IS A STELLAR EXAMPLE, OF WHAT ANY DOCTOR CAN DO,
ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, TO MAKE THIS [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]
TREATMENT/CURE AVAILABLE TO ROSACEANS IN A WAY THAT WILL SUCCEED
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, IN REACHING ALL ROSACEANS.

BTW, YOU HAD BETTER READ DR. SYROKOMSKY'S WEBSITE QUICKLY, BECAUSE IT MAY COME
UNDER ATTACK BY "ROSACEA-PROFITEERS", AND "DISAPPEAR", BECAUSE OF MY POSTING IT
HERE ON THE "rosacea-cure" BOARD.

But I AM posting it, because I am as desperate as ever, to reach all rosaceans
with this treatment/cure as quickly as possible, and Dr. Syrokomsky's example
can be followed by all the doctors who care to get on top of this situation.

Of course, I do not know what rosaceans are paying, for this priceless service,
of curing their rosacea.  I can only hope that the good doctor at least
considers the income level of his patients, in determining his fee.

And I offer my opinion, that even God also grieves for those who suffer with
rosacea, and is working to bring final peace and health to all mankind, (as it
was in the Garden of Eden, before the Fall), as a New Age is beginning.

Christians call this the "Last Days", but most do not realize that the "Last
Days" also occurred when Jesus walked the Earth, so the Biblical references that
seem to predict physical destruction, (i.e. burning destruction of the Earth,
etc), are actually only symbolic.
The "Last Days", within this full-truth definition, means that we are in the
"Last Days" of the preceding "Age", and the beginning of a "New Age", centered
on the Second Advent of Christ.
So the "Last Days", and the "New Age" overlap, if you will.  :-)

At first, I thought I would email Dr. Syrokomsky, and ask him if he is using
[DMSO + fluconazole].  But after I prayed about it, I realized that I have a
definite, immutable "attitude", about this.
If he says "Yes", I will believe him.
But if he says "No", I will not believe him.

So I'm "stuck", with my own opinion, about this.  And this doctor has a perfect
right to maintain whatever secrecy he wants to, about his specific methods of
curing rosacea.

So, my adamant opinion/view, is that Dr. Syrokomsky is doing exactly what needs
to be done by all Medical Doctors and General Practitioners, etc, worldwide, in
order to offer this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] treatment/cure to all rosaceans, IN
A WAY THAT IS AS CREDIBLE AND ACCEPTABLE TO ALL ROSACEANS AS IS POSSIBLE, GIVEN
THE FACTS OF THIS SITUATION.

But I must offer two deeply sincere apologies:
1) I apologize to all you who are reading this post, if I am incorrect in my
opinion/assessment, of Dr. Syrokomsky's cure.
I have absolutely no "scientific proof" for my opinion, but the
"coincidental identity" and "timing" of his work are so matched
to my presenting this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] treatment/cure
on the Internet, that to me there is just no other conclusion
possible.
It is also completely possible that the good doctor's claims are complete
deception, but I strongly doubt this, because he states that he requires initial
and follow-up personal meetings with his rosacea patients, which does not sound
like a fraudulent situation to me.

2) I deeply and most sincerely apologize to Dr. Syrokomsky, for "outing" his
website, here on the "rosacea-cure" board, which may make his website a target
for "cyber-attacks" by "rosacea-profiteer" forces.
As my excuse, I can only say that the PATTERN of his example in this situation
is exactly what God needs, in my opinion, to guide other doctors, worldwide, in
how they might approach this situation, and thereby reach all rosaceans with
this cure as quickly as possible.
And this remains true, no matter what Dr. Syrokomsky says he's using....  :-D

Amen, amen, and amen.
I sincerely hope this helps.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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For Everyone,
Just a note, to point out some on-going proof, that there are very large
negative forces at work, (i.e. likely "rosacea-profiteers"), concerning this
first-ever, one-and-only treatment/cure, [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], for
rosacea/rhinophyma, and for many other previously incurable diseases.

Almost a year ago, I exposed the fact that a strange, massive
deception/distraction was being attempted on the Internet, using the words,
(diflucan Dmso), as at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/192

I cautioned that taking plain ORAL fluconazole/Diflucan could NEVER treat/cure
rosacea, not only because of its potential DEADLY side-effects, but also because
of its "pharmacological mechanisms", as at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/193

At that time, on March 2, 2004, there were already 4,670 "Google hits" for
(diflucan Dmso).
Today, Feb. 15, 2005, this number has increased to 19,500 "Google hits" for
(diflucan Dmso).
Closely examining these (diflucan Dmso) URLs, it becomes clear that almost all
of them are absolutely intentional deception(s), as I stated in r-c message
#192, in March 2003.

IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT THEY WILL NEVER SURRENDER,
BUT THE FULL TRUTH WILL DEFEAT THEM.   :-D

From what I can tell, the intention of this on-going deception/distraction is to
try to sell you plain, ORAL fluconazole/Diflucan, pawning it off as (diflucan
Dmso).

Much more importantly, this 19,500 hit distraction also serves to flood the
Internet with "false hits", so that you might not be able to easily locate the
sources of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] on the Internet that would otherwise be
easier to find.

TO ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ATTEMPTED DECEPTION/DISTRACTION,
IS THAT "SOMEONE" APPEARS TO BELIEVE THAT THIS [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]
TREATMENT/CURE IS INDEED A HUGE DISCOVERY, TO BE GIVING IT SO MUCH ATTENTION.

So these deceivers are helping to substantiate my claim,
that [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] will indeed cure 100% of all rosacea.
They evidently believe that it will....  :-D

Perhaps they've been doing some "private research"
with [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]....  :-D
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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For Everyone,
I wish things were as simple and straightforward as Jim's "vision", in his email
below.
But who knows? Maybe Pfizer will fulfill what I feel is their responsibility,
concerning the establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] as the cure it is.

After all, Pfizer pledged $35 Million for the Tsunami victims.  Rosacea may not
seem as harsh as the Tsunami, but it is...., especially since estimated hundreds
of millions suffer with rosacea.
Even a few UNBIASED million dollars spent by Pfizer on Clinical Trials to help
refine this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure, would both cure thousands of
rosaceans, and also might improve this treatment/cure.

I'm just very uncomfortable, not knowing which way Pfizer might jump in this
matter, as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/18

I've removed Jim's email address, to protect him from possible "attack" by
"rosacea-profiteers".
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming --- TEXT OF EMAILS FOLLOWS, (in reverse chronological order) ---

Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, Jim,
Thank you for your thoughtful suggestions.  And I do hope that you let me know
your results, when you obtain and use this Rx.
I'm posting this answer on the "rosacea-cure" board, so some of what I've
written to you here is meant for "public consumption".

I want to assure you, Jim, that it is not any "passion" on my part, that has
driven me.  It is a simple recognition on my part, that so many rosaceans are
suffering, and they could get rid of this disease.
Also, the Yahoo! Company offers these free groups, which are very easy to start.
About ten days after I first posted on the "rosacea-support" group board, they
BANNED me, so I did what I had to, (i.e. I started "rosacea-cure" in May 2003),
to get this word out.

So, as I understand it, this treatment/cure was a gift to me from God, and I'm
just trying to pass the info on as best I can, as just about anyone would do.

Of course, I agree that your thinking and ideas on this are extremely sensible,
and certainly succinct.  Some talk in this vein was covered long ago here, as
at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/18

So you have not included the possible existence of dark "status-quo-evil" and
"corruption", in your advice and thoughts to me.

From what I can tell, a PhD "researcher", (i.e. Geoffrey Nase), is the main
"instigator" of the website for so-called "rosacea research" that you have
mentioned.  Nase has proven himself to be "unrelentingly negative", (to put it
nicely), concerning this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure, during the entire
21 months since I announced this in April/May 2003.

Of course, Nase has a lot to lose, if this treatment/cure reaches all rosaceans
rapidly, including the end of the sale of his book(s) on rosacea.
And Nase has sworn publicly, that he would never even consider "trying" or
"researching" this cure, (which is, logically speaking, obviously because he
knows that it does cure rosacea).

From the "evidence" available, it is only logical that Brady Barrows, (BB), also
knows that this med cures rosacea.  If you look at BB's photos, with his
"diary", he appears to be the happiest man alive, with no rosacea.

If you read BB's "diary" of his claimed use of this treatment/cure, as at:
http://www.rosacea-control.com/html/diary2.html
BB has a lot of positive things to say about it, (even though his bottom line
goal appears to be to convince rosaceans to NOT TRY IT, and NOT ACCEPT IT AS A
CURE).

So, after just 141 days of treatment, (he originally made repeated public
promises that he would try it for 18 months), he states simply that he will
continue to use it "for pustules", but that it did not cure his rosacea.

BB seemed to become enraged, because he was claiming that [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole] worked best/only with the "creams" that he was, (and still is),
marketing, in the last half of his "diary", and I publicly rebuked him for
trying to associate my name with his claims for these "creams".

Since then, (i.e. September 7, 2004), BB has become strangely silent, about
[DMSO + 10% fluconazole], other than to post and emphasize Nase's "warnings"
against DMSO, and to delete or refuse to post all of my answers, (on the
"rosaceans" board BB owns), to Nase's absurd and/or deceptive "warning" claims.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

As the only other prominent "public player" in this issue, BB has far less
"formal education" than does Nase.  But Barrows has proven to be far more
subtle, "slippery", and effective than Nase, in slowing/stopping the
establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] as the cure for all rosacea that I believe
it to be.

Since this situation does indeed have some complexity, BB has had plenty of
excuses, (and opportunities), to "muddy the water", and he has done just that.

My judgment concerning BB at this point, is that he will never promote [DMSO +
fluconazole] as the treatment/cure it is, unless he can see more profit in it
than he appears to currently be making from "rosacea control" companies like
Zenmad.  The timing on those Cyclops Zenmad ads, is that they popped up
prominently all over BB's hundreds of "web pages", at about the same time he
stated that [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] had NOT cured his rosacea.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, again.

And Barrows, exactly like Nase, is continuously wrangling to collect money for
supposedly needed "rosacea research".
Strange, isn't it?  Their calls for this "research" have only become strident
and organized since my announcement of this treatment/CURE for rosacea, and
after it has become obvious to them that this cure has not "gone away", after
about 20 months of their best efforts to discredit it.

In fact, there appear to be a lot of "smoke screens" being used to "dress up"
the relationship, between Barrows and Nase.  Is it possible, that they're
playing a "good cop, bad cop" game on rosaceans, with their goals being
identical in this matter???
Certainly, they have both done whatever they could, both to discredit me, and to
slow/stop the establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] as the first-ever cure for
rosacea.

My recommendation to all rosaceans, is to NOT be misled and deceived by
"rosacea-profiteer-research".

Even if they were completely honest and sincere, (ROFL), does it make any sense
whatsoever, (given the advent of this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] cure for
rosacea), to allow "rosacea-profiteers" to be involved with deciding how money
should be spent for "rosacea research"???

It would make just as much sense to put egg-sucking dogs to work, guarding a
"rosacea research" henhouse.

And do they really need your money?  No.
Do they need your involvement ONLY to lend credibility to skewed,
half-truth-lies-rosacea-research that will be gladly funded by
"rosacea-profiteers"?
You decide.

Do they need the involvement of innocent rosaceans only to obtain and maintain a
"non-profit" status with the IRS?
You decide.

In the end, are these folks going to get burned to a crisp, because they are
playing with fire?...   Duh!  So now, the "rosacea-profiteer-researchers" have
been given fair warning.... Will jail terms for fraud be their proper end?  
Yessireebob, especially if I have anything to say about it....

I must say, Jim, that you place much more trust in a humungus pharmaceutical
company like Pfizer, than I believe you should.  I believe that you are correct,
that "(making a profit)" motivates such a company.

But the dynamics are incredibly far ranging, because Pfizer executives might
prefer to sell "treatments/controls" for rosacea, ad-infinitum, rather than sell
the cure for rosacea, that would relatively quickly end almost all profits from
this disease.  I can think of many, many other conceivable/possible scenarios,
that could/would lead to Pfizer execs wanting to "bury" this [DMSO +
fluconazole] cure.

You might think that I'm being too cynical.  But you have to admit, that Pfizer
can read the "rosacea-cure" board as easily as you can, (since May 2003), and no
knowledge has come to me that Pfizer is willing to spend any money to help
establish this cure, yet.

I don't really judge Pfizer harshly, for their lack of action thus far in this
matter.  The following may be some of the reasons for Pfizer's inaction:
1)  [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is already being prescribed, (and also mixed and
used without a Rx), for rosacea, worldwide, so Pfizer may feel no need to
"promote" it, because they simply may not care about all the suffering caused by
the delay of this cure, in reaching all of the estimated two hundred million
rosaceans, worldwide.

2) This is far from being an "easy" or "perfect" cure, since it requires many
repetitive applications for months, is uncomfortable, and may not "remove" the
damage already done by the rosacea, after sometimes decades of having rosacea. 
I'm not a lawyer, but I will say that this is therefore a hard sell, which might
even cause "liability insurance" problems for Pfizer, with their "deep pockets".

3) A USA doctor's prescription for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is a sort of
"orphan", in the USA "medical system", as explained at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/18
so this intrinsically difficult "gray area" may not be so encouraging to Pfizer.

4) In much of the world, both DMSO and fluconazole/Diflucan are available
legally without a doctor's prescription, (from what I can find out).  Since it
is so easy to "mix it at home", as at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/170
, Pfizer has less financial incentive to promote this cure, because they could
never easily get away with jacking up the price much for [DMSO + fluconazole],
later.

5) In a situation as profound and as complex as this, it normally takes time for
the "powers that be", to sort themselves out, and for new channels of supply and
profit for this med to be worked out.
As a NEW THERAPUTIC PRINCIPLE, this first-ever cure for rosacea, (and for many
other diseases), is like an earthquake, that causes a lot of chaos, before new
"structures" of profit and availability of [DMSO + fluconazole] can be
"created".
Perhaps Pfizer is more active than we know, in this matter.

I certainly hope and pray that they help to make this med available at
reasonable prices, rather than doing anything to try to hinder this development.
The bottom line, as I understand it, is that at least some fluconazole is being
manufactured overseas, outside Pfizer's control, so Pfizer does not have the
option of easily "burying" the availability of [DMSO + fluconazole].

But Pfizer certainly could massively, (and relatively quickly), facilitate this
med's credibility and availability, if they chose to....
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I do hope that Pfizer does do something to help establish this treatment/cure,
at some future point, because it is obvious that "rosacea-profiteers" are
continuing to gear-up, to try to slow/stop the establishment of [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole] as a cure for rosacea.

One obvious plan these "rosacea-profiteers" have, is to introduce many false
"red herring rosacea cures", (which they've already been doing --- believe it or
not, one is called "Anti-sense", ROFL).

They will also most likely directly attack DMSO and/or [DMSO + fluconazole] with
skewed "rosacea-research" lies and half-truth-lies, "ever the blackest of lies",
(as they've already been doing).

They've also been "muddying the water" by emphasizing that rosacea is not well
"defined", and that it's not diagnosed accurately.  This is the easiest of their
ploys to defeat, since [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] causes changes in appearance or
stinging in the skin ONLY when it's needed, (with no effect on healthy skin).
Therefore, you do not have to define or diagnose the problem; just try the med
one time, and you know whether it will help you or not.

In fact, I have pointed out many times, that this med is the first means of
easily diagnosing rosacea, because it has virtually no effect on healthy skin,
while it causes profound changes/effects/healing on rosaceous skin.

You have suggested that I "provide Pfizer with my data".  That sounds
reasonable, but you have to admit that Pfizer certainly does NOT need MY help,
to defeat these "rosacea-profiteers".  Therefore, I foresee no good reason for
me to provide any "private data" to Pfizer, both because they don't NEED it, and
for many other reasons.  Also, Michael Roberge, RPh, has always been available
to talk with anyone, from his Compounding Pharmacist's viewpoint. He has a
website at:
compoundedsolutions.com

I would, however, be very happy to cooperate on a day-by-day basis with Pfizer. 
I'd also be extremely grateful for any help Pfizer might accomplish, such as
even very minimal clinical trials, at least to nail down whether higher
percentages of fluconazole in the DMSO might be more effective or not.

And, come to think of it, a certain amount of delay is possibly better at this
time, so that these "rosacea-profiteers" are allowed lots and lots of rope,
which can be used to hang them, once they have spent lots and lots of money on
"researching" and telling their lies and half-truth-lies to distract from or to
discredit [DMSO + fluconazole].

So I'm not likely to get too excited, about any actions by
"rosacea-profiteer-researchers".  My belief, is that they will waste a lot of
money, AND pay the price for their actions, to a Higher Power.

They probably think that they have nothing to lose, but at the very least, that
good ol' Lake Of Fire awaits them, and promises to be so much worse than any
profit-loss they're fighting to avoid....

Meanwhile, on a concurrent time-line, word-of-mouth within the medical community
will continue to carry the news of this first-ever cure for rosacea, rhinophyma,
probably ocular rosacea, and certainly many other diseases.

No amount of disinformation on the Internet can stop this news.
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, NO ROSACEAN SHOULD BE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO HELP THEM, BY
PARTICIPATING IN SUCH OBVIOUSLY BIASED "ROSACEA-RESEARCH/DEVELOPMENT", RUN BY
THE VERY PEOPLE THAT PROFIT EVERY DAY FROM
"TREATING/CONTROLING/SUPPORTING/DEVELOPING" ROSACEA.

Here's a snicker.  It's interesting and amusing to note, that "rosacea-support"
is a grammatically incorrect name, and so is "Rosacea Research And Development".
If it were for the sake of rosaceans, it would be "rosacean-support".  But
supporting rosacea, (to keep rosaceans suffering), is the correct grammatical
meaning for "rosacea-support".  Also, "rosacea development" has the same reverse
grammatical meaning, connotating that rosaceans can be kept suffering by the
"Development" of rosacea.

I think that this type of "mistake" is called a "Freudian Slip", which is known
to reveal the true motives/thinking, of those making the "slip".  :-D
Just an aside snicker, folks.  I know that it's debatable, but I was laughing a
lot about these "Slips" recently, and I just had to share.... :-D

To sum up, Jim, it seems to me that "word of mouth", within the medical
community, is the best means we have at present, of spreading the news of this
discovery.  Positive actions by Pfizer would certainly speed that up a lot, but
I've never known what to expect from Pfizer, because it is so huge, as well as
being one of the "Pharmaceutical Giants" that are labeled as "bogeymen" by many,
in the present USA "medical culture".

You have offered your assistance Jim, so I will ask you, and everyone reading
this, to please find ways of convincing Pfizer to fund even minimal UNBIASED
Clinical Trials with [DMSO + fluconazole]. I have never wanted to approach
Pfizer, because I'm cynical and cautious, about such a huge corporate entity. 
Their current "Motto", in their TV ads, states:
***** PFIZER --- For A Happier, Healthier, Longer Life *****

If they obey their motto, concerning [DMSO + fluconazole],
they certainly should be willing to spend the relatively
very small amount that minimal (???-UNBIASED-???) Clinical
Trials might cost, in this situation.

So you have certainly raised a good point, Jim, and Pfizer may be the only folks
with the clout to devastate these pesky "rosacea-profiteer-researchers".

Thank you for your kind words and positivity, Jim.
Please let me know how you progress with this med.  I expect that your 41 years
of suffering with rosacea will end during the coming months.  This
treatment/cure may not be easy, but it is the "real McCoy"....
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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To: fulltruth40@...
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:35:28 -0500
Subject: Rosacea cure
From: Jim

Dave,
I just bumped into your site as I was cruising the health care sites. I
want to thank you for the time and effort that you have put into this
passionate work of yours. You are a true gift to all Rosacea sufferers!

I have had rosacea for 41 years and know the heartaches. I have tried
many treatments with very limited success. Never a cure in mind just
keeping it under control. I am going to see if I can find a doctor to
prescribe your find.
On a more important note, you are attempting to spread the word and
get this new "cure" accepted by the masses. I believe that you need to
start with the source - a pharmaceutical company thereby establishing
credibility and a means of getting the "word" out through mass
marketing.

Since both companents of the "cure" are FDA approved
(DMSO & Fluconazole), the next step would be to contact the bigger
of the 2 manufacturers and provide them with your data (include all
those that you know of that have had success with the topical compound).

If I was the manufacturer of either solution, I would jump at a chance
to market a product that is already approved for sale and that has a
"cure" potential - not merely a treatment of symptoms.
The manufacturer of this new compound (DMSO + 10% Fluconazole) would be
able to run the necessary double blind studies, determine the best
composition of the 2 solutions and the appropriate treatment regimen,
and be able to promote the product to doctors and patients
through an established marketing arm of the company.

They would be able to reach more people in a month than you
could do in the rest of your life. I am certainly not belittling your
efforts nor your wonderful results to date. I am merely suggesting that
it  is a very big world and many need to get the word from a credible
source in an expeditious manner in order for mass acceptance to occur.

Just my thoughts - if I can be of any assistance, let me know.
I will let you know of my progress in getting a prescription.
May God continue to bless you,
Jim
P.S. I came across this new site. http://[website deleted]/  It
appears that this foundation is relatively new, run by Rosacea
sufferers, and are fed up with the lack of efforts by the medical
community to date on Rosacea.
If these people are truly in this for a cure, may be a good
place to start. I wouldn't be too concerned about the medical community
opposing this product as long as the product is approved by the FDA
(components already are) and a member of the club (major
pharmaceutical) will be a major player (making a profit).
Unfortunately that's how this game is played.


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For Everyone,
Mike has had some damage from IPL, and needs advice on how to best recover.
I have left Mike's email address intact, in case anyone has any suggestions to
help him.

It's a bit off topic, but we do need to remind all rosaceans that many of the
so-called "treatments/controls" for rosacea cause much more pain and suffering
than does this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] treatment/CURE.

And after Mike's suffering, his rosacea symptoms are guaranteed to return, (in
my opinion), unless he uses [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to get rid of the ROOT
CAUSE of the rosacea.
If anyone can help Mike, please post here on the "rosacea-cure" board, or send
it to him privately.  Frankly, I don't expect any "miracle advice" for Mike,
except that his skin may heal, given enough time, and get rid of the "orangeish"
color, if he's lucky.
The human body has remarkable regenerative capabilities, but far too often, many
doctors are more than willing to take credit for that, when in fact it has saved
them from the embarrassment of complete failure.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming --- TEXT OF EMAILS FOLLOWS, in reverse chronological order ---


Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, Mike,
I'm really sorry about the damage you've suffered from IPL.   As much as I wish
it would, I do not believe that DMSO alone will help you much, with the damage
that IPL can do.  I could be incorrect about this, since DMSO is known to be
very beneficial in many ways.

For the full truth about DMSO, see the URLs:
dmso.org
and
jacoblab.com
It is [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], (which is very different than DMSO alone), that
I know/believe will cure 100% of all rosacea, as well as curing many other
diseases that have until now been incurable.

So my hope is that you can use [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to be permanently cured
of rosacea, (AFTER you "recover" from your IPL "treatments").  I hope you will
not allow yourself to be continually hoodwinked by those who claim that
laser/IPL burns will "control" or "treat" rosacea.
These white-coat laser/IPL advocates know, (secretly), that they're flying
blind, but they know that rosaceans are desperate, so they get away with making
$500.00 or more per "treatment", without even guaranteeing any improvement.

This reminds me of the time when doctors were "bleeding" sick people, claiming
that it was beneficial, because the patients did seem to temporarily "get
better".  Some historians believe that George Washington died at the hands of
this "bleeding remedy".

A couple of hundred years later, so called "modern medicine" has determined that
this "bleeding remedy" forces the body to draw on its last reserves of energy,
(probably related to an adrenalin release), so after "rallying", the patient
collapses and dies from the long-term shock of the blood loss that the doctor
caused.
I must admit that I am ignorant of many of the complicated biological cascade
effects of burning the skin with laser/IPL, (as are the white-coated doctors),
but it seems obvious to me that the damage done might be expected to "mask" your
rosacea temporarily.

These so-called "laser/IPL treatments", have some similarities, (in my opinion),
to shoving bamboo splinters into your eyeballs, in order to "treat" a headache. 
It's true that you won't even know that you have the headache, at least for a
while.  :-)
As one all-knowing white-coat peanut-gallery PhD put it:
"Desperate rosaceans will try anything...".   And he uses that fact very well,
in his advocacy for certain laser/IPL "treatment$", as well as for other
"control$/treatment$" he advocate$.

Of course, I know that there are rosaceans who are convinced that laser/IPL
"helped" them.  I'm also sure that there were patients who were "bled", who were
somehow able to survive, and later thanked their doctor for "bleeding" them and
healing them.
Such is the confusion possible, concerning "controlling/treating" rosacea, which
until now has not only been incurable, but has also resisted all attempts to
determine its ROOT CAUSE.

It has been said that, "God works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform",
and my discovery that [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] cures rosacea, rhinophyma, tineas
versicolor, and other diseases, has made that statement more profound to me than
I ever thought possible, making me feel a lot more humble than I sometimes
sound.   :-)
If I were to describe all the factors and the course of my life, that led me to
this discovery, I'm sure that even the most rabid atheist would cry "Uncle".

  :-)  But I digress.

Although I'm unable to help you with any really specific advice, to heal your
IPL damage, perhaps one of our "rosacea-cure" members, (or someone just reading
this board), might have some suggestion(s).
I hope this helps.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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From: "mhpro2er" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Mon Jan 3, 2005 7:51pm
Subject: Getting DMSO

Hi, getting DMSO...Question: If I have an orangeish color on my skin
since my face is now burned from aggressive IPL, will this DMSO
still be able to clear my skin?

Anyone else in my boat or who has any suggestions?

THANKS!!
Mike H
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From: "mhpro2er" <mhpro2er@...>
Date: Mon Jan 3, 2005 7:59pm
Subject: URGENT RE: IPL


Dr. Bitter was working on me, and was very aggressive with my
treatments and he did IPL on me, and now I have an even texture but
it's orangeish...which I am reading is not rosacea, but is actually
my burnt skin...

After crying for about an hour, I got proactive...I am able to get
DMSO, and I wish to ask Dave and company: PLEEEAAASE help me...Is
there any way to reverse this burn, and get me back to normal
again?  THANKS SO MUCH and God Bless...

Also, if this does work, Dave, please let me know the charity you
want funds sent to...as I will donate 5% of all the money I ever
earn to that charity...THANKS (and please let me know if you've
heard of anyone else in my shoes)...THANKS AGAIN!

Best,
Mike H

For Everyone,
Documentations of cures of rosacea with [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] are most
important.  Far too few of the rosaceans who have contacted me have been able to
accomplish this difficult task.  Below is a recent email, (and my answer), from
a rosacean who is trying to document her case.  I have used the fictitious name
"Arlene", to identify the below email sent to me.

I hope this helps to properly frame this struggle, as resting mainly on the good
will of rosaceans for other rosaceans, as they discover this cure.  That's the
nature of the establishment of a cure such as this, discovered by one lone
rosacean.

Furthermore, since I have begun to suspect that this med may actually prevent
some types of cancer, the panoramic majesty of this discovery appears to
possibly be much more expansive than I guessed at first.

It appears quite likely that any break in our skin, (including surgery or dental
work such as root canal work), might be introducing these "fungal entities" into
our bodies, even from the air.  These "fungal entities" might also gain access
into our bodies at any mucous membrane, or in the alimentary canal, (i.e. the
mouth, esophagus, and intestines).

If this "theory" proves to be true, then surgeons might begin to treat any
"surgical wound" with [DMSO + fluconazole], to prevent this infestation, just as
disinfectants have been used to prevent bacterial infestations, (although we
don't really know whether the "spores" would be killed by the [DMSO +
fluconazole]).

Since such "fungal infestations" grow very slowly, and therefore most likely
take decades to become apparent, the connection between the surgery and the
"fungal infestations" has been "missed", and certainly would be difficult or
impossible to prove.

In any case, it appears that a wide variety of different types of "fungal
infestations" have remained incurable, during the entire history of mankind.  It
appears that these "fungal infestations" are now curable, although it takes a
long-term, repetitious application of [DMSO + fluconazole].

It appears that the "whole body effect" of applying [DMSO + fluconazole], with a
strong enough percentage of fluconazole in the DMSO),
MAY PROVE TO BE CURATIVE AND BENEFICIAL TO THE MAJORITY OF ALL MANKIND,
since we have all had breaks in our skin occur at one time or another, and we
would therefore all be prey to these "stealthy fungal infestations".

Just some food for thought, folks.  I am beginning to suspect that the curative
effects created by the unique synergy of DMSO and fluconazole just might prove
to be even more significant than antibiotics have been....  :D

Only time will tell....
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming --- E-MAIL TEXT EXCHANGE FOLLOWS, (in reverse chronological order)
---

Hi, Arlene,
Thank you very much for the info on your situation.  Far too few of those who
have contacted me have taken the effort to document their experiences, so I want
to commend you highly for your planned unselfish efforts in that endeavor.
It is documentation such as yours, that will defeat the liars and make it
possible to more quickly reach hundreds of millions of suffering rosaceans with
this cure.

I would just like you to carefully correct one word that you have used.  We
should always refer to the pain that this treatment/cure can cause as STINGING,
AND NOT AS "BURNING".
This is because some "rosacea-profiteers" have lied and tried to claim that part
of this med, (i.e. DMSO) can "burn", or "blister" the skin.  This is an
absolutely 100% lie, based on the truth that some extremely minor "catalytic"
heat can be created when DMSO mixes with water, (or sweat).

Also, the temporary effects of "killing" this "rosacea causing entity" do
sometimes somewhat resemble the "localized fever" and "pinkness" of a mild
sunburn, but are in fact completely different.

I know that the words "burning" and "stinging" are normally interchangeable in
the English language, but in this case we have to be very careful to never use
the term "burning", in connection to this treatment/cure, because it gives the
absolutely wrong impression that "burns" may be taking place, which is
absolutely, 100% impossible with [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].

I am most interested to know what your doctor's level of participation will be,
since the Compounding Pharmacist, (CP), does not have the greater influence on
the medical and rosacean communities that the doctor does.  I want to strongly
encourage you, (and all rosaceans using this cure), to promote whatever
documentation you can, within the medical community.

If I were to post your ID and email address on the "rosacea-cure" board, it
would only make you a "target" for "rosacea-profiteers", but those forces cannot
stop the full truth from coming directly to doctors, through documentation(s)
such as yours.

IF ALL ROSACEANS USING THIS TREATMENT/CURE WOULD PUT OUT THE UNSELFISH CARE AND
EFFORT TO DOCUMENT THEIR CASES WITH THEIR DOCTORS, AS YOU PLAN TO DO, ROSACEANS
ALL OVER THE WORLD WOULD LEARN ABOUT THIS [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]
TREATMENT/CURE MUCH MORE QUICKLY.   :-)

You have posted to the rosacea-cure board, (rather than sending me private
email), but since I'm still afraid that you might come under "cyber-attack", (or
even other types of attack), I will delete your ID and email address, when I
post this there.  One problem with this type of attack, is that it might even
come months later, especially if your email address does not change.

Please believe me; there are many types of "cyber-attack" that cannot be
stopped.  For example, if those attacking you are rich enough, (and in this case
they are), they can afford to create and send you an entirely new virus, and if
you are the first to receive such a virus, NO "virus-protection system" can
protect you.
This situation is a very nasty business, because this treatment/cure is
threatening to END estimated BILLIONS of dollars of annual profit from
"treating/supporting" rosaceans.

In fact, I have begun to suspect that [DMSO + fluconazole] just might be capable
of PREVENTING possibly a great number of different types of CANCER.  If this
proves to be true, even more powerful status quo "cancer treatment forces" might
want to stop, discredit, or "bury" [DMSO + fluconazole], which is a NEW
THERAPUTIC PRINCIPLE.

Presently, many other "forces" would like to stop the establishment of this
treatment/cure, such as those selling "rosacea books", or even the companies
selling oral nail fungus cures with known horrendous possible side-effects, such
as oral Diflucan and oral Lamisil.
I have seen a lot of very expensive TV advertising for oral Lamisil recently,
which strongly implies to me that they know that [DMSO + fluconazole] is a much
better cure for nail fungus, so they are advertising in order to "trick/force"
people to buy their oral drug, before they find out about the much safer,
non-invasive, topically applied [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] cure for nail fungus.

All the above said, I want to encourage all rosaceans using this treatment/cure
to have courage and compassion for other rosaceans in dealing with this
situation, by documenting their cases, witnessed fully by their doctor(s).

I am very thankful for your loving care, Arlene, in trying this treatment/cure,
wanting to document it, and in reporting this to me.  In the long run, it is
only honestly documented cases such as yours that will help all doctors,
Compounding Pharmacists, and rosaceans to discover this curative treatment for
rosacea.

And we have to ask, whether we should trust "Internet ro$acea-person$" such as
David Pascoe, (owner of the "ro$acea-$upport" group), "Dr." G. Nase, PhD, and a
few others.  I believe that they have publicly shown their agenda$ all too
plainly, in the time since May 2003, when I first announced this treatment/cure
for rosacea, and for many other diseases, [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].

The bottom line, is that rosaceans continue to discover this treatment/cure,
worldwide, in spite of all that any "rosacea-profiteers" have done, to try to
stop it.  I thank God for that, and it seems obvious to me that these ruthle$$,
cold-hearted folks will get exactly what they deserve, in the end.    :-)

I also must caution you, (and everyone), concerning the possibility that even
your family doctor, who readily prescribed [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to you for
your rosacea, is vulnerable, (as is any USA doctor), to bribery and/or extortion
attempts by "rosacea-profiteer" forces.
High-profit "rosacea-treatment" companies might try to "convince" your doctor to
find any means possible to "publicly discredit" this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]
treatment/cure.

Also, bear in mind that your doctor has to consider his/her own
medical-insurance liability, before anything else.  One reason that this
treatment/cure was discovered by myself alone, without the knowledge or advice
of any doctor, reminds me of an old joke, about doctors in general.
It goes like this:
The patient says to the doctor, "Doctor, it hurts when I do THIS", (as the
patient bends his arm).
As his "remedy", the doctor's only advice is, "Well, don't DO that."   :-)

The fact, is that substantial stinging, (NOT BURNING), can occur for a few
minutes, and substantial "feverish pinkness" can follow for the next several
days, and some minor skin flaking/peeling can occur even for weeks after the
application of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] on rosaceous skin, (but never on healthy
skin).
My guess is that any sane doctor and patient, seeing this "reaction", might
"normally" be led to prematurely discontinue "treatment" with [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole], if both the doctor and the patient were not immensely perceptive,
diligent, stubborn, and patient, as I claim that God prepared and led me to be,
when I discovered this cure.

Of course, once you as the patient become convinced that the final outcome is
that this most horrendous progressive disease, rosacea, has been significantly
reduced, your "attitude" naturally changes.  You would "normally" be willing to
suffer more of this TEMPORARY stinging, pinkness, and skin flaking/peeling,
given the very real prospect that you could actually rid yourself of this
disease, which is otherwise incurable.

In any case, I have raised this "caution flag", (about ALL doctors), because I
want to emphasize that there is no guarantee that you can permanently trust your
doctor or your CP completely in this matter, because there are so many "forces"
possibly acting on them.
But you are the one with the final word.  You can always find another doctor, if
one lets you down in any way.  And whatever photo-evidence you have produced
yourself, remains your property, to share with your new doctor.

However, photographic "evidence" in dermatology is notoriously inadequate and
subject to easy manipulation/fraud, without the witnessing/testimony of one or
more credible doctors, to substantiate the photos.

SO ONE SHOULD REALLY TRY TO HAVE AS MANY DOCTORS AS POSSIBLE WITNESS THE
TREATMENT/CURE FROM THE BEGINNING.  AND IT IS EVEN BETTER IF THESE DOCTORS DO
NOT EVEN KNOW EACH OTHER, SO THAT EACH DOCTOR KNOWS THAT HE CANNOT EASILY GET
AWAY WITH ANY LIES OR DECEPTION.

Although I am no expert on photography, I'm offering my opinions here, for what
they're worth.
To make the most "reliable" photographs, one must remember to use the same,
identical incandescent lighting every time, and use the same film, rather than
any digital camera.  That's just my opinion, from the most basic knowledge I
have, since I have never even held a digital camera in my hands.  It just seems
to me that "scientifically repeating" identical  "conditions of photography" is
far less reliable/guaranteed, using any digital camera.
It seems more reliable to me to use a film-camera, and simply identify the
camera "settings", the lighting, and the type of film used.
But all "photo-evidence" is almost moot, anyway, without credible doctors as
witnesses, with the photos.
In any case, high definition close-ups are no doubt needed, ideally, which might
even require a special "close-up" lens.

I would also add here, that I have come to the belief that close-up video
footage would be very useful.  It would clarify the type of "peeling skin" that
occurs, by actually showing some of the "rubbing off" of the dead skin, as well
as the temporary changes in the skin surface that can occur.   Close-up video
would reveal these changes in the skin that can only be clearly seen from the
right "angles", relative to the light source, which are all but impossible to
fully document with still photos alone.

In the time since May 2003, I have become more apprehensive concerning women
rosaceans using [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], because your psychological "dependence
on beauty" tends to be more significant than it might be for "craggy faced men"
such as myself.

And I do admit that this treatment/cure is indeed a hassle and a "LONG-TERM
TASK", which can cause one to look worse, before looking better.

Also, since whatever "damage" that has already been done by our rosacea is
"exposed/revealed", and is not necessarily all removed by this treatment/cure,
we have to admit that this is not a "perfect" cure, in that sense.

For example, I still have a couple of minor purple veins showing on the left
side of my nose, where my beginning horrendous stages of rhinophyma were cured.
There have also been a couple of rosaceans who contacted me, who were never
completely satisfied, (if they were telling the truth), because they did not
feel that all "pinkness/redness" was removed.

But my firm belief is that healthy skin, (even if it might be "pink"), is
infinitely preferable to rosaceous skin that only promises to get progressively
worse.  "Pink" healthy skin can later be treated in many ways, to lessen or
remove the "pinkness", but rosaceous skin will always get worse in time, unless
it is treated/cured with [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].

I've never known how to best "interpret" all this, other than to keep repeating
that this is the first-ever, one-and-only cure for rosacea, because it is
somehow attacking and destroying the ROOT CAUSE of rosacea, in my strong
opinion.
Since we may never know what that ROOT CAUSE is, exactly, even after all rosacea
is cured, this whole situation can seem very strange at times.

But getting rid of rosacea is a Godsend, even if it does come in an unusual way
that might prove to be impossible to EVER completely define or explain.

Although this sounds unusual, it's actually not, since we actually still do not
completely understand all the "pharmacological mechanisms" of antibiotics, (such
as penicillin), but we still use them effectively to cure disease.

We have simply come to understand that a fungus evolved and produced penicillin
to combat bacteria, because those bacteria competed with the fungus for food
sources.  Without really knowing exactly how it worked, we used penicillin
effectively.

Part of the reason I'm writing you this email, is to share with you some
"out-on-a-limb" ideas/fantasies I have had about this treatment/cure.  I hope
that you might share some of these ideas with your doctor, not only because it
might mean a more effective treatment/cure for you, but for the sake of all
those rosaceans who will come after you, in using [DMSO + fluconazole].

(1)  [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is just as safe orally swallowed, as topically
applied.  Substantial "whole body effect" cures may very well be more
effectively accomplished by combining both oral and topical administration of
[DMSO + fluconazole], (NOT of plain oral fluconazole).  The combined dosages
used would be much higher than with topical [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] alone, (but
still extremely safe, according to the known acceptable systemic blood-serum
levels of plain oral fluconazole), as I covered at the URL:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/254

(2)  Especially the inside of the cheeks, (inside the mouth), would be an ideal
"target" for application of this med, because it is that portion of the cheeks
that is "typically" rosaceous skin, composing part of the familiar "butterfly
shaped area" of rosacea on the face.  Treating both the inside and the outside
of this area of the cheeks would possibly be much more effective than just
treating the outside.

(3)  Eye drops made specifically to treat/cure ocular rosacea are certainly a
realistic goal, since eye drops containing DMSO have been prescribed for over a
year now, to successfully prevent/treat/cure cataracts in older patients.

(4)  We have to wonder, whether it is possible to make any EFFECTIVE "gel" [DMSO
+ 10% fluconazole], (rather than liquid).  If so, it would make the topical
application of larger "doses" possible, and might make this treatment/cure more
effective.

(5)  Most importantly, we know that up to [DMSO + 2,500% fluconazole] is
probably possible to make.  Much higher percentages of fluconazole, such as
[DMSO + 200% fluconazole], MIGHT prove to be much more effective and efficient
than the [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].  Although the cost of these higher
fluconazole-percentage + DMSO meds might be prohibitive, this would be offset by
the fact that far fewer applications might be needed, for the same curative
effects.  If there were any concern that such higher percentage meds might make
"overdosing" a problem, then these higher percentage meds might be applied only
by doctors in "clinics", perhaps once a month.
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Of course, I call these "out-on-a-limb" ideas, because the reasons for wanting
to try these possible improvements are all based on anecdotal evidence, and are
unproven.  But the reasoning leading to wanting to try these possible
improvements is quite rational and logical.  The same sort of reasoning led me
to believe that a 10% med would be better than the 1% med I used, and it has
turned out to be a spectacular improvement.

I have always resisted any changes in this med's "formula", because we simply
are not completely sure why it is working, so it should not be changed.

However, trying an even higher than 10% concentration of fluconazole in the DMSO
continues to make sense to me, so I am making that clear here.

Since trying these possible improvements has virtually no chance of causing any
harm, (especially under a doctor's care), I have finally stated them publicly.
The bottom line, is that any HONEST "rosacea research"
should try these variations in this first-ever treatment/cure.
"Rosacea research" in any other direction would be absurd,
(AND DECEPTIVE), since the cure for rosacea,
(i.e. [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]), has already been discovered.

As much as I hate the potential for confusion that any
"formula changes" might cause, all rosaceans might be
benefited by improving this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]
treatment/cure by fully exploring the above listed
possible improvements in this treatment/cure.

BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, EVEN WITHOUT THESE "POSSIBLE IMPROVEMENTS", ALL ROSACEANS
HAVE THE IMMEDIATE OPTION OF BEING CURED BY [DMSO + fluconazole].  :-)

And so, Arlene, I will be praying that you continue to update me on your
results.  Thank you again for your efforts, and for your kind words.  :-)
I hope this helps.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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From: "Arlene"
Date: Mon Nov 1, 2004 8:24pm
Subject: DMSO + 10% fluconazole solution

Dave,
I joined the yahoo group in August but have not posted. I would like to share my
experience with the "cure". I saw my dermatologist in July and she would not
even discuss the cure with me.
My husband and I then had appointments for physicals with our family doctor.

I took her the information and she did not hesitate to write the prescription
for me. I had already visited with a local compounding pharmacist and she
assured me she had no problem compounding the solution.

I gave her the info including Michael Roberge's contact information. She
contacted him about the solution.
I began using the 10% solution the end of August. I use it once a week to once
every two weeks and I do multiple applications in one session.
It BURNS but IT IS WORKING!!!

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[Editor's Note:  Arlene's use of the word "BURNS" here is unfortunate, but it is
clear that she does NOT mean that any "burning" or "burns" occurred, since this
treatment/cure would certainly not be "WORKING", if burns of her skin had
occurred.  The more accurate word we should use, in the admittedly ambiguous
meaning of the English language in this case, is "STINGS".  My personal belief,
(without any real proof), is that this "fungal rosacea entity" is somehow
"integrating" itself into the very structure of the skin and nerve cells, and
therefore, when this "rosacea causing entity" is destroyed by the [DMSO +
fluconazole], the "stinging" is caused by the "triggering" of these nerve cells.
In my very strong opinion, this stinging therefore does NOT mean that any HARM
is being done, but only that some sort of destruction of this "parasitical
fungal entity" is occurring. - Dave Fleming]
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The rosacea is lessening and I cannot attribute it to any other changes because
I've not made any. My husband can tell a difference also.

I have noticed a hormonal element to the rosacea. It is always worse the week
before my period, often with "pimples" and very red. I am not getting the
"pimples" and the redness is much reduced.

My husband and I are taking pictures to document the change. The pharmacist is
also very interested and asked me if I would be willing to let her use me as a
case study presentation and I told her I would be glad to do so.

Dave, if you would like to contact me please do so. Thank you so much for
posting and for your courage in keeping on!
"Arlene"


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For Everyone,
I highly recommend that everyone try the products, (especially stevia), of the
"Wisdom Herbs" Company, founded by James A. May.  Here is the contact info:
Wisdom Herbs
2546 West Birchwood Avenue
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Toll-free phone: (800) 899-9908
Websites:  www.wisdomherbs.com
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E-mail: wisdom@...
wisdom @ wisdomherbs.com

I just want everyone to know, that this sweetening herb, "stevia", is apparently
much more beneficial than most people realize.  It is, of course, the only
natural, zero calorie sweetener, which should absolutely be used instead of
poisonous artificial sweeteners such as aspartame, etc, etc, etc.

I mentioned the horrors of aspartame quite a while ago, at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/91
In addition, there are also apparently many profound health benefits to be had
from stevia.
Here is the list supplied on his book cover.
You'll learn about stevia's ability to:
--- Heal acne and soften skin
--- Relieve an upset stomach
--- Sooth sore throats on contact
--- Lessen cravings for sweets and smoking
--- Reduce oral bacteria that cause gum disease
--- Lower high blood pressure
--- Restore pancreatic function and correct blood-sugar problems

Stevia is also used to sweeten the "Yerbamate" rejuvenating herbal drink that
has been famous in South America for many centuries.  Both stevia and yerbamate
were historically first grown and discovered in Paraguay, many centuries ago.

I must say, that James May blows the FDA out of the water, concerning stevia and
aspartame.  If I were an FDA Director, (past or present), responsible for this
"aspartame poison betrayal" of the American people, I would no doubt be hiding
out somewhere, probably in a heavily guarded, gated community.

For 15 years, James May did battle with the FDA, and sacrificed, to allow the
American people to experience the health blessings of stevia.  Then, in Oct.
1994, the US Congress finally passed a law, (i.e. DSHEA), that partially
weakened the FDA's strangle hold.  Powerful democrats in Congress have promised
to rescind this law, if and when they gain control of Congress, so you could be
denied stevia at any time in the future.

Since 1995, stevia is slowly but surely successfully allowing Americans to get
rid of the curse of aspartame and other poisonous artificial sweeteners.  But
like all mass education that attempts to fight against monstrous corporate power
and advertising, the going has been too slow, in my opinion.

And the FDA could still "pull a fast one", and take stevia off the market, using
legal technicalities, which Mr. May explains intimately.

Therefore, I would like everyone to support James A. May's
"stevia business", because his book has opened my eyes,
about the reason(s) for the FDA's betrayal(s) of the
American people.  James May's book has certainly proven
his personal integrity to me.

He explains clearly, that the FDA is like a private "army", which is headed and
absolutely controlled by only one man, (i.e. one bureaucrat).  The FDA's legal
power and scope are absolute, giving no one any means to legally challenge any
"ruling" that this "FDA Director" makes.

James May explains that the FDA "field workers" are mostly good, sincere people,
but that they are forced to "follow orders" from this Washington, DC "FDA
Director", or be fired.

The law that gave the FDA unbridled power(s) was passed in 1938, when so many
products were harming consumers, that something had to be done to stop it.

But within the next twenty years, the corporate monsters learned that they need
only "influence" one man, (i.e. the FDA Director), in order to get their way.

Thus, the American people are still consuming the pure poison of aspartame, even
as the healthful sweetener stevia is within their easy grasp.

I highly recommend the Dec. 2003 book,
"The Miracle Of Stevia", by James A. May,
ISBN 0-7582-0220-2.
Published by:
Kensington Publishing Corp.
850 Third Avenue
New York, NY 10022
as at:
http://www.kensingtonbooks.com
I hope this helps.  :-)
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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Hi, Mark,
Sometime in a past post on the "rosacea-cure" board, I covered this topic
extensively.
From what I know, not even Dr. Stanley Jacob, MD himself, (i.e. the "Father of
DMSO), knows exactly how much [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] enters the bloodstream,
when we apply it to our skin or facial skin.
Such numbers are very difficult to measure with any exactness, without extensive
clinical "redundant" blood serum measurements.

That said, it IS known, that the percentage is very small, certainly below 10%
since most of the [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is "trapped" at the site of
application, sometimes even probably creating a substantial "reservoir" of the
[DMSO + fluconazole] in the skin.
We could even make the argument that [DMSO + fluconazole] is possibly entirely
different than plain fluconazole, and may have no liver-toxicity at all, in its
systemic form.

But even if the toxicity were similar to plain fluconazole, the amount of
systemic fluconazole that 1990 FDA tests proved might cause liver toxicity is
massive, compared to the amount of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] that could even
conceivably enter the bloodstream, with the amounts used to treat/cure  rosacea,
ocular rosacea, or rhinophyma.

Some of the general info on plain fluconazole/Diflucan is at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/111

For example, a once a month dose of 150 mg of plain oral fluconazole is
considered to be miniscule, virtually without any risk of liver toxicity.    In
really sick people, even a chronic daily dose of 400 mg of fluconazole is
acceptable, if the proper blood tests are maintained, to check for possible
liver-toxicity.

Given the fact that a typical application of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] for
rosacea is less than one milliliter, (and one ml contains 100 mg of
fluconazole), the amount of [DMSO + fluconazole] that enters the bloodstream is
really miniscule, (perhaps less than 10 mg worth of fluconazole), per
application.

And that isn't even including the very real possibility that the combination of
[DMSO + fluconazole] may not have any liver toxicity at all, since its
pharmacological properties are most likely very different than plain orally
administered fluconazole.
Since we only have the toxicity info supplied by Pfizer to the FDA in 1990, when
fluconazole/Diflucan was approved as safe by the FDA, we can use those figures
as "ball park" limits.  But this NEW THERAPUTIC PRINCIPLE, which uses DMSO as
the "transdermal transport", may allow us much higher doses than that, before
any toxicity might be caused.

In any case, as long as we stay under the "ball park" toxicity levels of plain
systemic fluconazole, no one should have any rational objections, much less
experience any problems.

All that said, I've never had any "blood work", to determine any liver-toxicity
problem.  I am in very good health, (although overweight), and I am extremely
confident that [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is extremely benign and safe, especially
in the dosages used to treat/cure rosacea.  Incidently, all the USA doctors that
are prescribing [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] appear to agree with me, since not one
rosacean has informed me of any "blood work" required by their doctors, when
using [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].

BTW, since [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] is water-thin, it simply cannot be applied
to the skin in any great amount, since it simply runs off, if you try to apply
more than a thin coat.  I have sometimes wished it had more "body", so that I
could pile it on, but no such luck.  This is why I finally obtained the 10% med,
since I had been applying the 1% med even more than ten times, waiting about 15
minutes for each application to "soak in".
I hope this helps.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


From: "Mark" <markk02474@...>
Date: Sat Oct 30, 2004 8:52pm
Subject: Re: Does [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] Have Any Toxicity?

Mark wrote:
Dave, I'm curious if your systemic antifungal results mean that you
might have similar risks to the nail anti-fungal Lamisil? In
particular, hepa-toxicity. Have you been monitoring your liver panel
numbers?

Mark

For Everyone,
Here's hoping that at least those with serious cases of ocular rosacea and/or
rhinophyma quickly learn that [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] will treat/cure them. 
The following email exchange covers that topic.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming

Hi, kiera,
Because you are one of very few who have contacted me, with the experience of
[DMSO + 10% fluconazole] improving your ocular rosacea, (even without applying
it directly into the eyes), I am posting your message with your name and email
address.  Since you posted to the "rosacea-cure" board, I assume that this is OK
with you.

This is a first, for the "rosacea-cure" board, and I hope this does not cause
you any problems of coming under "cyber-attack" by the same "rosacea-profiteers"
who are the ones who have evidently been attacking me since May 2003.

I have done this because I feel that the suffering is so great, and so horrible,
for those with ocular rosacea, so I am praying that you are a "real person" who
is telling the full truth, and that your experience will help ocular rosacea
sufferers to decide to at least TRY [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], in spite of the
lies that "rosacea-profiteers" have been telling, about DMSO.
I am extremely confident, that they will experience an improvement in their
ocular rosacea symptoms, just as you have.  And if they stick with it, they will
get rid of this disease completely.

My strong belief, is that rosacea is a progressive disease, and will finally
develop into ocular rosacea and rhinophyma in every rosacean, even though it may
take decades to do so.  Therefore, I very much appreciate your thoughtful
message, at this time.
And I thank you for caring to send me this email, for the sake of those
estimated hundreds of millions with rosacea, who have not yet found out that a
fairly simple and inexpensive cure for this disease has been discovered, namely
[DMSO + 10% fluconazole].

As for "what's happening", I discovered that eye drops containing DMSO have been
prescribed to prevent/treat/cure cataracts, for at least over a year, now.  That
makes the recent "claims and reports" of DMSO "eye damage", by "peanut gallery
PhDs" rather absurd, and even completely evil, with the intent to keep rosaceans
suffering for the sake of "rosacea-profits".

I am just one little guy, (with a lot to do and not much time), so I am not able
to really do much to promote this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] cure for rosacea,
other than this free Yahoo! group.  I hope that all those reading this message
find ways to spread the news of this treatment/cure throughout the world, so
that all rosaceans might be cured as soon as possible.

I also continue to caution everyone, that every day that this "rosacea-cure"
board exists is a miracle, in my opinion, since the Yahoo! Company runs the most
humungous "Rosacea Treatment Clinic" on the Internet, and therefore might decide
to find a way to get rid of "rosacea-cure", at any time.

My strong advice, is that you should copy any info from the "rosacea-cure" board
that is of value to you, because I am never sure that this "rosacea-cure" board
will be here, tomorrow....
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


From: "kiera022001" <hdstokke@...>
Date: Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:00am
Subject: using DMSO Fluconazole 10%

kiera022001 wrote:
I have used this solution on my toe nails  and have felt my eyes
getting better and used it on my face 3 times in the last 3 months. I
am being cautious but have had no skin flaking. Haven't heard from
you Dave in a long time. What's happening?

For Everyone,
Rosaceans continue to cut through the disinformation and lies being put out
about this treatment/cure, and, worldwide, they are doing whatever is necessary,
to obtain and try [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] for their rosacea, and for many other
diseases.

I am happy that the membership of "rosacea-cure" continues to go up as always,
even though each person who joins knows that they are not required to join, to
gain access to all the info here.  I sincerely want to thank our members for
their continued "vote of confidence", and I want to assure you that God must
certainly want to bless you for your participation in letting rosaceans know
that the first-ever, one-and-only treatment/cure for rosacea has been
discovered.
That "number of Members" number, shown on the "rosacea-cure" Home Page,
continues to be one small indication to all, that this treatment/cure is valid
and safe.

I would also like to point out once again, that because of the ease of creating
false, "ghost ID" members in any Yahoo! group, the membership numbers of the
supposedly two largest rosacea-centered Yahoo! groups are highly suspicious and
doubtful.  This becomes obvious, when you study the history of the number of
members versus the number and quality of messages posted in these groups.  Since
they have obvious profit motives, it becomes all too clear as to why they would
want to deceive you, concerning their true membership numbers.

Concerning the goals of "rosacea-cure", progress in reaching all rosaceans has
been far slower than I thought it would be, in my naive state of mind, when I
first "announced" this treatment/cure in the rosacea-centered Yahoo! Groups in
April 2003.
But it actually seems like a miracle to me that so much success has come, in
spite of all the despicable attacks and "Banning" that have occurred, by those
who want to keep their BILLION$ of dollar$ of "rosacea-profit$" flowing,
$tripped from $uffering rosacean$.

I have posted one of the recent emails I've received below, with the most
comprehensive answer I could give.
I hope this helps.  :-)
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming --- TEXT OF EMAILS FOLLOW, in reverse chronological order ------


Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, [Name Deleted],
You are very lucky, because you can most likely get [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]
prescribed easily for your nail fungus.  Whether you then use it to also
treat/cure your rosacea, as I did, would be a simple "fait accompli", with your
doctor's consent.

You do have to study some on the "rosacea-cure" board.  :-)
On the home page, there is a list of messages.   These messages should give you
the info you need, to decide to try [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], for your rosacea.
Do not give up until you get it and try it.
It is definitely benign, safe, and curative for rosacea.  :-)
You might especially note the info at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/64
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/210
Go to this referral URL for Compounding Pharmacists, plug in your zip code, and
find out what CPs are nearest you:
http://www.iacprx.org/referral_service/index.html
Then reach the CPs, and ask them for a list of all the doctors they have filled
prescriptions for.  Then contact each doctor, to see whether they might be
positive to writing this prescription for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], for your
nail fungus, for your rosacea, or for both.

I know that it's difficult to get doctors to tell you anything unless you pay
them for an appointment, but it's the only way I know of at present, if you are
in the USA.  I'm sorry that I can't be more helpful in this matter.

There is at least one website I have confirmed, (in the UK), which has doctors
writing this Rx for rosacea, but there still appears to be a problem in filling
this Rx in the USA, since those UK doctors do not have any doctor working with
them with a USA medical license.  That means that USA Compounding Pharmacists
cannot legally fill the Rx by the UK doctors, at this time.

As for there being any relationship, between rosacea and nail fungus, I don't
think that there is any, other than the fact that topically applied [DMSO +
fluconazole] cures both.  But as you know, one antibiotic like penicillin cures
many diseases that are completely different.  In the same way, I have found that
[DMSO + fluconazole] is curing many different diseases that have been incurable
since time immemorial.

We could assume, logically, that the diseases curable by [DMSO + fluconazole]
are all fungal in nature, since the 10% med is much more effective than the 1%
med, and fluconazole is an anti-fungal, and has been proven to have no
antibiotic action whatsoever.
But obviously, just as we know that many different types of bacteria cause
completely different diseases, it would appear that there are many completely
different types of "fungal entities", which cause completely different diseases.
Therefore, there is no real relationship, between nail fungus and rosacea, in my
opinion, other than the fact that they are both disease conditions that we want
to get rid of!!!  :-)

Until fairly recently, nail fungus and rosacea were both incurable.  It appears
that fluconazole/Diflucan was discovered by researchers trying to fight the
HIV-AIDS disease, which apparently allows certain fungal infestations to grow
rampant, and kill the patient.
For a story containing facts about such an AIDS patient, see the URL:
http://web.mit.edu/thistle/www/v13/4/drugs.html
which I mentioned at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/192
It is so tragic to contemplate, that the first-ever cure for rosacea and
rhinophyma may have come about because of the horrendous suffering and deaths of
those with HIV-AIDS, which may have speeded up and brought about the discovery
of this class of anti-fungal agents, including fluconazole/Diflucan.

ALSO, NOTE CAREFULLY THAT IT IS NOT THE FLUCONAZOLE ALONE THAT IS CURING ROSACEA
AND RHINOPHYMA, BUT THE COMBINATION OF DMSO AND FLUCONAZOLE, WHICH IS AN EXAMPLE
OF A COMPLETELY NEW THERAPUTIC PRINCIPLE.  This is most likely because of the
unique penetration of every cell, that the DMSO makes possible for the
fluconazole, WHICH DOES NOT HAPPEN if we just swallow the PLAIN fluconazole
ORALLY.  I covered this at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/193
I do not claim to know what causes rosacea, only what cures it.  :-)
I hope this makes sense to you.
The "relationship" you read of is probably just the fact that I discovered this
cure for my rosacea, (and my beginning stages of rhinophyma!), by finding out
that the med prescribed to me for my nail fungus also cured my rosacea,
(diagnosed in me), and my beginning stages of that most horrible end-point of
progressive rosacea, rhinophyma, (not officially diagnosed in me)!!!

I have come to the opinion that a "whole body effect" takes place when we apply
this med topically anywhere on our body, because a very small percentage of the
med goes into our bloodstream, and throughout the body.  And especially when we
apply this med repeatedly, over a period of weeks or months, I believe that if
we indeed have more than one or two of these chronic, stealthy "fungal entity"
diseases, they will be cured by [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], or at least exposed
and revealed, so that we can apply this med on them directly and cure them.

I believe that this is what happened in my case.  When I treated my toes for
nail fungus, my attention was drawn to the "stealthy infestation" on my left
hand, and I treated it directly.  This happened so subtly at the time, that I
did not even identify what happened.  Only now, with 20/20 hindsight, can I
surmise what happened.  This was also true for the "sensations" I felt in my
eyes, in Nov. 2001.  It was well over 18 months later, before I even learned
that ocular rosacea exists.  Then, I began to put 2 and 2 together.

It appears that the "stealthy infestation" on my right hand was more stealthy,
and was exposed and revealed only after I treated the inside of my nose with the
10% med for a while, since Feb. 2004.
For example, when I first applied the 1% med to my toes, I had a very slight
"sensation" in my eyes, which was hardly noticeably, but was very significant,
in 20/20 hindsight.  At the time, it was simply a mystery, but I came to know
that ocular rosacea can be cured, just by applying [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to
the facial skin, (not necessarily into the eyes), because a small percentage of
this med goes into the bloodstream, and throughout the body.  Even though I had
no discernable ocular rosacea symptoms, I believe that it was in an "early
stage", in my eyes, and applying this med to my TOES, began to cure the ocular
rosacea in my EYES, believe it or not!!!

BTW, eye drops made with DMSO have been prescribed by USA doctors since over a
year ago, not only to successfully treat cataracts, but also to be used as a
preventive, against getting cataracts.  So eye drops containing DMSO are
actually being placed directly into the eyes without any damage of any sort.  On
the contrary, successful treatment of cataracts has been obtained with these eye
drops containing a substantial percentage of DMSO.
So the recent lies being told about "eye damage" from using [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole] are just that, pathetic LIES.
I will let you decide the most probable motivation of the liar($) in this
$ituation. :-)

On Feb. 22, 2004, I finally obtained the 10% med, (rather than the 1% med I used
in Nov. 2001), and I've been using the 10% med on the inside of my nose every
couple of months, (i.e. one or two q-tips, on each side), with good results on
some sort of "infestation" in/on the septum cartilage inside my nose that has
been hard to get rid of completely.
I think that at some point, I am going to try an aggressive approach, and treat
the inside of my nose twice a day for at least a few days, to see if that will
get rid of the final symptoms of this "infestation" inside my nose, which may or
may not be connected to rosacea.
This is a "TASK" to do, taking perhaps twenty minutes or longer with my head
back, (i.e. lying down, because of the "runny nose"), and dealing with the
stinging.  But at least I have always had a positive good result, in fighting
this "infestation".
For decades, no doctor I saw could fathom how to even identify/diagnose this
problem inside my nose, much less be able to find any treatment/cure for it. 
This, while this "infestation" was killing me by causing me the deadly damage of
"sleep apnea", not to mention other problems less easy for me to identify.

During the last two months, I discovered an "infestation" on the back of my
right hand, that I have been treating at least twice a day, with absolutely
curative results.  For the last twenty years, it looked like just a unique,
jet-black, round, thickened "freckle", about 3 millimeters across.
When I applied the 10% med, there was no stinging, and in fact not much
sensation at all, really, but just some changes in the appearance of skin
surrounding this "freckle".   After applying the 10% med twice a day for a few
days, it "developed" into a hardened "alligator skin" pink pattern about
two-and-one-half inches in diameter, with a raised, pink one-half-inch diameter
bulge in the center, under the "freckle".  The whole round area appeared to be
"feverish" and reddish/pink, while the surrounding treated skin had no changes
at all.

There were four or five secondary "irritation spots", placed evenly around the
circumference of this over two inch wide circular "flower patterned"
infestation.  It certainly looks like some sort of elaborate, well evolved
"infestation", with a central "root area", and a "growth pattern" expanding out
somehow in a circular shape to establish "secondary root areas", on the
circumference.
From what I can tell, this infestation is confined to the skin, and does not
penetrate into the muscle or other tissue below the skin.

After two or three weeks of twice-daily treatment, I stopped the treatments for
a week, and this "infestation" looks like it's on its last legs.  The central
one-half-inch bulge is almost gone, and the "freckle" has shrunk to 2 mm in
diameter, and looks gray in color, rather than the jet-black color it had
before.  The skin in the two-inch wide circle is "shiny", and has a pattern of
fine lines that might be called "wrinkles".  My past experience tells me that
these "fine lines" will fade and disappear within a couple of months.

When I run a fingernail across this area, the central half-inch "bulge" has some
"sensitivity", as well as the "secondary root areas".   I'm going to start
treating it twice a day again, to completely get rid of this "infestation".  (I
had stopped treating it because I was going to attend an important conference,
and I didn't want anyone to see my hand looking irritated, since I was going to
be shaking hands with a lot of people.)

At this time, I won't go into my reasons for believing this, but I believe it is
quite possible that this type of "infestation" might "develop" into cancer, if
the means of treating/curing it did not stop/cure it first.  It was "stealthy"
before, but in treatment it appears to be so pernicious and well established,
(once [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] has been applied), that it is obvious that very
profound, deleterious effects are being caused, (possibly throughout the whole
body), by this kind of "stealthy infestation", on the back of my right hand.

I treated and cured a similar but different "stealthy infestation", on the back
of my left hand, back in Nov. 2001 - June 2002, with [DMSO + 1% fluconazole],
but it had no "bulge" in the center, and the "alligator skin" was much thicker,
and the size of the affected area was much bigger, about five inches by four
inches, or the entire back of my left hand, not including the fingers.  This
"infestation" did seem to have a treatment-resistant "root area", but it was
less clearly defined than the one on my right hand that I'm treating now.

I came to realize recently that the small "athletes foot blisters" that I
developed regularly on my feet for at least the last thirty years, HAVE BEEN
COMPLETELY GONE FOR MONTHS NOW, and even my "athletes foot", (i.e. peeling skin
on my feet), is almost gone completely, EVEN THOUGH I'VE ONLY BEEN APPLYING THIS
10% MED TO MY HAND AND INSIDE MY NOSE!!!  The only exception to this, is that
two or three times at most, I have applied the 10% med to the very small area of
one or two of these "blisters", with good results.  I should mention, that this
kind of "alligator skin" infestation soaks up a lot more of the 10% med than
does the skin of the face, especially since I sometimes apply the med even
several times a day to my hand.  Therefore, the dose of the "whole body effect"
is much larger than is normal for treating just the facial skin.

So the 10% med is definitely much better and more effective than the 1% med.  An
even higher percentage than 10% is probably going to prove to be even more
effective and efficient, although I could be incorrect about this, if 10% turns
out to be the ideal percentage of fluconazole to use with the DMSO.

So, I realize that I haven't been much help to you, in finding the USA doctor
who will prescribe this benign, topically applied med for rosacea.  But "seek
and ye shall find" is about the only advice I have been able to give anyone,
especially in the USA.

First, find the Compounding Pharmacists nearest you, and ask them what doctors
they have had any prescriptions from.  Then, contact the doctors and ask them
whether they will help you to at the very least TRY this [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole] for your rosacea.

You should also tell the doctor to contact my CP, Michael Roberge, RPh, for any
info about this situation.  His contact info is:
Michael Roberge, R.Ph.
Compounded Solutions in Pharmacy LLC
Monroe, CT 06468
Phone at (203) 268-4964,
Phone toll-free at (877)-RxNeeds, which is (877) 796-3337, with a website at:
compoundedsolutions.com
e-mail address:
mike@...
I hope that I have helped you to decide to at least TRY this [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole] treatment/cure for rosacea.  I am extremely confident that it is
the only means in existence that will cure ALL THE VARIOUS "FORMS" of rosacea
symptoms.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming

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From: [Name Deleted]
Date: Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:15pm
Subject: Rosacea - I need your help to cure!
Dear All:
I am a 48 year old male who has been suffering from Rosacea now for
about 18 months. It has only gotten worse in the last few months.
Doxycycline and Metro lotion do absolutely little or nothing. My
Dematologist is a joke who doesn't know his Rosacea from you know
what! I received little or no explanation when I told him I thought
I had it and since then have tried to perform my own research on the
internet.
I want to minimize or cure this ailment! I just read online here
something about toe nail fungus could possibly be somehow related to
this ailment or may be related. Whether it is just coincidence or
not, I have two or three toenails infected with the fungus. I
thought about this once before that possibly there could be a link?
I even went as far once as to try using to no avail Tinactin foot
spray on my face.
I am sick of this and am looking for any or more information than
what I received from my doctor or so called doctor!
Please help me.
Thanks;
[Name Deleted]


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For Everyone,
I want to make it clear, that I want all rosaceans trying [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole] to please contact me and update me on their treatment/cure, even
though I cannot post that email at this time.  All the updates are saved, and at
some point, it will be more possible to post them without any problem.  Your
input will, in the end, be very useful in helping those rosaceans who are
treated/cured later, with [DMSO + fluconazole].

The following is my answer to another rosacean who is naturally interested in
hearing the testimonies of those who have had good results with [DMSO +
fluconazole], in treating/curing their rosacea.  Again, I have explained more
extensively this time, why I have not felt it was best that I post those, but
only post testimonies from their DOCTORS, who have not chosen to "go public" on
this at this time.

As always, if anyone knows any better way that I can handle this situation,
please let me know.  Given the recent disinformation attacks by Dr. Geoffrey
Nase, PhD, I can use all the help I can get.    :-)
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming ---MY ANSWER TO THAT INQUIRY FOLLOWS----

Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, [Name Deleted],
Thank you for your interest in this cure for rosacea, and for many other
diseases.
I have stated my reasons for not posting "testimonies" a couple of times in the
past, as at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/174
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/188
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/199
I decided long ago that it would be unwise for me to post claims, (either
positive or negative), by rosaceans being cured by [DMSO + fluconazole].
I believe that my reasons for this are good ones:

(1)  The full-truth information that has been posted on the "rosacea-cure" board
should be sufficient, in my opinion, to cause any rosacean to seriously consider
at least TRYING this treatment/cure.

Although the board is lengthy, the twenty-four messages I list on the "Home
Page", (i.e. message #2, #18, #64, #163, #170, #187 thru #193, #197 thru #207,
and #210), are not an unreasonable amount to read and digest, if a rosacean is
really sincere in seeking to be treated/cured.  Each person can also pick and
choose from the other messages, to read what interests them, among the over 240
messages.  I can only recommend this approach to your fiancee, for any "basic
science" she might want to discover on the "rosacea-cure" board.

(2)  This med has an ideal "feedback mechanism", which is the only easy,
fool-proof means of diagnosing rosacea in existence, in my considered opinion. 
So it is easy to tell whether this med is "working" for you, by the
"reaction/changes" that occur with rosaceous skin, while this med has virtually
no effect whatsoever, on healthy skin.

But [DMSO + fluconazole] is an "orphan Rx", in the USA "medical system", since
each individual doctor must decide whether he should prescribe this med for
rosacea or not, even given the fact that both DMSO and fluconazole/Diflucan
passed the exhaustive requirements for safety of the FDA many years ago, (i.e.
DMSO in 1978, and fluconazole/Diflucan in 1990).

So [DMSO + fluconazole] is indeed intrinsically benign, and ultimately the only
cure for rosacea, (and for many other diseases), but this treatment/cure is not
magical, overnight, or easy.

This leaves a lot of room, (and motivation), to "negatively fudge the facts",
for any "rosacea-profiteer" who might be willing to "spin the truth", in order
to try to convince rosaceans, (and especially doctors), to NOT EVEN TRY [DMSO +
fluconazole].
There are just too many variations of this "spinning" possible, for me to
encourage this sort of lies, by posting all the positive testimonies I've
received.   For all I know, some of these positive testimonies could be from
"rosacea-profiteers", just hoping for the chance to later claim that "something
went wrong".

Since I know this cure is valid and benign, I know that normal "word of mouth"
is working, not only among rosaceans, but more importantly in the worldwide
medical arena, to bring this cure to all rosaceans.  This will happen, even
though the realities of this "war" do not allow me to freely post all the
positive testimonies I've received.

All USA doctors have the legal authority to write the Rx for [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole], even from strictly phone or email contact with the rosacean, and
the creation of an "official folder", with all the appropriate "medical facts"
of the rosacean patient.  This is how Brady Barrows received his Rx, on the
phone, without ever meeting with that doctor even one time in his life,
according to his public statement.

This is definitely the "soft underbelly" of the "rosacea-profiteers", and I
believe that this sort of prescription, written without any physical contact
with the rosacean patient, is being written more and more, based on the reports
I've been receiving.

Geoffrey's recent absurd, even totally laughable claims about the "dangers" of
[DMSO + fluconazole] is further proof of this to me, because he seems to be
aiming his disinformation at doctors, trying DESPERATELY to stop them from
writing this Rx for their patients.  Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD ends his pitiful
attempt with the beginning line of the Medical Doctor's Hippocratic Oath,
"First, do no harm", as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/62246

But Geoffrey can't adequately explain why his "love warning" to rosaceans comes
so incredibly late, SIXTEEN MONTHS after I announced this cure, in May 2003. 
Could it be because it took this long for doctors to begin writing prescriptions
for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] by strictly email contact with rosacean patients???
Is Geoffrey DESPERATELY trying to stop these prescriptions from being written???

And Geoffrey is not an MD, so he doesn't have to obey the Hippocratic Oath,
concerning the rosacean suicides and other harm he may be causing, by delaying
innocent rosaceans who might foolishly believe him, from even TRYING [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole].  THE ONLY DOWN-SIDE OF THIS SITUATION, IS THAT
"ROSACEA-PROFITEERS" MIGHT TRY TO SUPPLY "FAKE" [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] ON THE
INTERNET, SO ROSACEANS WILL HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, TO LOCATE THE RELIABLE SOURCES.

(3)  The amount of money that is being made by "rosacea-profiteers" is
substantial, and that money can finance all sorts of deception and "dirty
tricks".  This can include anything you can imagine, and then some, including
anything from devastating "cyber-attacks" on your computer, to any sort of
convoluted lies and/or half-truth-lies about the use of [DMSO + fluconazole], to
God-knows-what complex "dirty tricks" and "mayhem".

Until recently, I sort of "creatively estimated" an amount, and I stated that
"hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars" are grossed annually to "treat/control"
rosacea and "support/help" rosaceans.  A fairly recent post at one
"rosacea-group" claimed that this annual figure for rosacea is "fifty MILLION
dollars", (with not one shred of proof for the accuracy of this claim).

But just within the last few days, I happened to hear a documentary on TV about
the skin disease, psoriasis.  They stated a very credible, authentic sounding
figure, of 3.2 BILLION dollars spent annually, for psoriasis, as well as making
it clear that untold numbers of people commit suicide every year, because of
psoriasis.

This really got me thinking, about my "estimates", of the cost of rosacea.  I
now believe, (albeit, with no real "proof"), that there are indeed BILLIONS of
dollars annually involved with rosacea, and I believe it is GREATER THAN 3.2
BILLION DOLLARS.
If we even begin to touch on just the costs involved by manufacturers of all the
"laser/IPL/etc Machines", which must certainly have to pass through unbelievably
expensive Research & Development, as well as Official Governmental
Certification, to be approved for medical use, the total rosacea-related cost of
that "Industry" alone must be astronomical.

And the bottom line in this financial situation, is that if a true cure for
rosacea appears, there are going to be a whole lot of "rosacea-profiteers" who
will be "gunning for it", (and BILLIONS of dollars is a very big gun), and doing
whatever they can get away with, in order to stop/delay the establishment of
that cure.

In my considered opinion, that is exactly what has been going on since May 2003,
when I first announced this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/CURE publicly, on the
Internet.
Because of that reality, I have posted almost none, of all the worldwide
positive claims/testimonials I've received for this cure.

(4)  Given the ease of deception on the Internet, no matter how many positive
testimonies I might post, it is only logical for anyone reading them to know it
might all be a hoax.  Also, "rosacea profiteers" could easily "set me up", by
first claiming to have been cured by [DMSO + fluconazole], and then later lying,
and claiming some horrible "side effect".

I have always wondered whether that's what Brady Barrows might do, and it is
still possible, (through his "rosacea research institute"), so I continue to
keep a close watch on BB.
Only the positive testimonies of credible Medical Doctors, with "real" names and
addresses, will convince anyone, when all is said and done.  And I admit that
the doctors presently prescribing [DMSO + fluconazole] may not want to subject
themselves to attack from the "rosacea-profiteers", until a large enough number
of doctors is united in prescribing this cure for rosacea.

And so I am stuck with making do with (1), above, whereby rosaceans are going to
just have to weigh the facts, and simply TRY [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], if they
are led to do so.  As I have stated many times, my confidence is extremely high,
that this med will cure 100% of all rosacea, so if they try it, they'll like it.

(5)  I happen to believe that "The Truth Will Out", so (1), above, will have to
do.  Spiritually speaking, we are living at a very important "turning point", in
the entire history of Mankind.  A "New Age" is beginning.

I believe that "Spiritual Forces" have been set free at this time, which are
greater than ever before, and these forces are working to help Mankind be healed
of many diseases.  I believe it is these "Spiritual Forces", (i.e. aligned with
God's Will), that led me to discover this cure for rosacea, (and for many other
diseases).

And this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure is only a very small piece of this
awesome tapestry of healing, which is proceeding worldwide.  Each of us has our
own responsibility to fulfill in this glorious symphony, which includes us all,
and yes, even the "rosacea-profiteers".  To the degree to which we each fulfill
our responsibilities in the eyes of God, this healing will come, either quickly,
or slowly....
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
End Of Reasons For Not Posting Testimonies
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

All of the above said, I have broken my own rule, concerning testimonies, a
couple of times, but these were not really "complete", since their cures were
not finished, as at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/204
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/205
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/207
The reason I posted these, was to make sure that everyone understands that
rosaceans are not "cured overnight" with this cure.  It was my way of preparing
for the disinformation that I expected from Brady Barrows, as he was beginning
his "trial" of this med.

So far, I believe that I succeeded to some degree with Brady. He has admitted
that his rosacea has been "healed" by [DMSO + fluconazole], but he still
continues to deny the curaTIVE nature of this med, most likely because that
would end his "rosacea business".  As long as this med is seen as just another
"treatment/control", and not curative, Brady's "rosacea business" can continue.

So now, the "rosacea profiteers" seem to be fighting among themselves, because
some of them may now be involved in starting to market [DMSO + fluconazole].  So
the next level of battle, is to try to prevent this med from having the price
jacked-up, as it now is in Australia.  The current price there that has been
reported to me is AUD$450.00,
(i.e. US$351.00), for 15 ml of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].  Its cost is only
US$102.00, from Michael Roberge, RPh, in the USA.

But the fact that plain fluconazole/Diflucan is available in many parts of the
world, (i.e. in England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, all Australia, and
likely in many other countries), without any doctor's prescription required,
(and DMSO is also legal to get), means that rosaceans can legally make [DMSO +
fluconazole] at home, less expensively, if they have to, as at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/170

The only fact that is not crystal clear, in message #170, is that a 100%
concentration of DMSO is used, which is commonly referred to as 99% DMSO,
because DMSO is hygroscopic, absorbing water from the humidity in the air, as
soon as you open the bottle, (or in manufacture).  So the 99% DMSO is actually
100% DMSO which in normal usage absorbs less than 1% water from the air, during
use, and/or during manufacture.  It is also important to know, that "industrial
grade DMSO" may have contaminants in it, which might do harm if applied on the
skin, since these contaminants would be transported into the skin and body by
DMSO.  So it is obviously significant, to require "pharmaceutical grade" DMSO
for any use, (i.e. oral or topical), in or on the body.

Concerning what other product(s) you might like to have on hand, I believe I
cover this at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/210

I am uncertain, about the Reviva Labs product, as to its being the best for
everyone.  I have even stated publicly to Brady Barrows, that PERHAPS the line
of products he's selling that he's using with the [DSMO + 10% fluconazole], may
even be BETTER than the product I have recommend.

It's a little bit unclear, because many rosaceans have told me they prefer to
just use the 10% med, with nothing else.  But there were definitely times when I
felt that I needed to "sooth" the skin, (when I was using the 1% med),
especially in the beginning.

Frankly, at that time I used a soothing gel after-shave lotion, which was all
that I happened to have on hand.  I don't think that it did any harm, and it
seemed to help sooth the healing skin.
I hope this helps.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming

From: [Name Deleted] @hotmail.com>
Date: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:37pm
Subject: Other info

Dave,
I am wondering if there are ways to hear other people's stories concerning your
treatment/cure.
I have read plenty on what you think and some of what Brady Barrows thinks.
I am trying to hear from somebody who has tried it other than you two. do you
know of anyone?
I am going to be starting the treatment in a couple of months (I am getting
married in Nov) and I am trying to find all the angles that I can.
Also, my fiancee is a PA and is looking for some basic science on the treatment
as well if you have any good recommendations.
Also, before starting, what are some other products I should have on hand? I
believe you thought some Reviva Labs product was good? Thanks.
[Name Deleted]
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FROM: [Name Deleted]
DATE: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:58:01 -0000
SUBJECT: None

Dave, Why do you not let anyone else post here besides
yourself? I am interested in hearing other people's stories
on the dmso/fluconazole treatment.
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For Everyone,
Just a note of explanation, for this delay.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming ---RECENT EMAIL EXCHANGE FOLLOWS----

[Name Deleted] wrote:
Could you tell me the address of the site in which the
DMSO + 10% fluconazole can be prescribed.
Thanks, [Name Deleted]

Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, [Name Deleted],
Please forgive me, but I'm temporarily withholding that info, until I can reach
them and try to make sure that they are prepared for the possible future attacks
they might receive from "rosacea-profiteers".
Normally, I might have waited to announce this, until I had confirmed several
sources of this Internet Rx for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], to treat/cure rosacea.

But I want everyone to know and note the strange "coincidence", that the recent
public attacks on [DMSO + fluconazole] by Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, (after his
confessed inexplicable 16 month silent stone-walling), and the beginnings of the
worldwide availability of Internet prescriptions for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole],
"just happen" to be occurring simultaneously.

My most recent estimate of the total money grossed in the worldwide
"rosacea-industry", is over three BILLION dollars ANNUALLY.  That amount of
money makes for a lot of power and motivation to stop/delay this treatment/cure,
[DMSO + fluconazole] from reaching rosaceans.

Believe me, [Name Deleted], as soon as I can be reasonably certain that those
running that website currently supplying this Rx are even somewhat prepared for
the 200,000,000 potential "rosacean customers" they will be serving, I will post
their website on the "rosacea-cure" board.
In my opinion, we are witnessing no less than the beginning of the
treatment/curing of a group of incurable diseases that have plagued Mankind
since times immemorial.  And this war, between the "status quo
rosacea-profiteers", and those who will make this treatment/cure available, is
truly cosmic in its scope.
Please don't fault me as being overly cautious in this matter, [Name Deleted]. 
Ideally, there should be many competing sources of this Internet Rx, before I
would announce this UK source.  It would mean that some of the
"rosacea-profiteers" have been "converted", and then, only competition among
those "converted", would keep the price for this Rx and for [DMSO + fluconazole]
as reasonable as possible.
In my current understanding, one pays the equivalent of US$30.00, to "join" this
website, and then you receive as many free written prescriptions there as you
request.  That seems like a more than reasonable price to me, but my source of
info on this is not absolutely complete at this time.
Therefore, there will be some delay, before I post this info.

Again, please forgive me for this delay, but caution is not entirely out of
place in this situation.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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For Everyone,
The following is the most recent private email, between Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD
and myself, Dave Fleming.
For some reason(s), Geoffrey has mysteriously decided to reverse his earlier
hostile private email invective to me, that, "We will not communicate again".  
To me, Geoffrey seems genuinely surprised, that his half-truth-lies have not
done the job he expected.

He is no doubt baiting me, hoping that I might provide him with some means of
discrediting me.  Perhaps he wants me to attack him.  But that's certainly not
called for.  Geoffrey has made such a poor showing in his attempts to alienate
rosaceans from this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] treatment/cure for rosacea, (and
for many other diseases), that I haven't had much work to do, thank God.

It seems to me that this private email communication should not be kept secret,
although I am not in the habit of making private email public, unless it can
really help to reveal the full, internal truth of this situation.

I have included a Scriptural reference from the Bible, for Geoffrey. And since
most persons, (including myself), have not memorized the Bible, I will place
that quote here.  Found at Revelations, 21: 8, it is:
"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and
whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part
in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

There have always been liars, throughout the history of Mankind.
But it seems to me that the present "general cultural climate" of the USA is
encouraging, fostering, and accepting much more deception in everyday living,
than was the case decades ago.  We may all tell a "white lie" on occasion, but
to actually live by lies is a much more serious matter, (according to the
Bible), than most people realize.  In this "Age Of Spinning", I believe that the
majority of Americans is not aware that the Bible groups liars, murderers,
whoremongers, idolators, and others, together so absolutely, in that "lake of
fire".

We are praying that Geoffrey might become remorseful about the suffering he is
causing to rosaceans, with the half-truth-lies that he's been promoting, about
[DMSO + fluconazole].   But we do not really expect him to change his goal(s) in
this matter.  We do expect that he will be defeated by the full truth, however. 
Thanks be to God.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming ---TEXT OF PRIVATE EMAIL FOLLOWS, in reverse chronological order---

Dave Fleming wrote:
Dear Dr. Nase, PhD,
As I wrote to you when you joined "rosacea-cure", in June 2004, although I
lament that this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure has and will possibly
adversely affect your career, you would do well to embrace it. Then, you might
have some chance of benefiting from the wholesome benefits that God allows those
of us who remain honest in this world.
The consequences of the half-truth-lies you are "reporting", obviously aimed at
stopping/delaying this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure, will catch up with
you, Geoffrey.

Unlike you, Brady Barrows long ago answered my email to him about this matter,
and this led on to much greater knowledge and opportunities for him, than you
have allowed for yourself, by refusing to email even any acknowledgement of my
past email to you, much less have the civility to send me any answers.

I am happy, that you have relented in your arrogant intention that, "We will not
communicate again.", which you so confidently recently emailed privately to me.

You are either so ignorant, concerning [DMSO+ fluconazole], as to defy Universal
Law, or you are lying.  I don't need to tell you what my opinion is, about your
truthfulness in this matter.  I urge you to examine the Bible, Revelations 21:
8, to see why I believe you are harming yourself in this matter, concerning the
"next world".

But I can hear the lawyers sharpening their pencils, concerning your fate in
this matter in "this world", which is I'm sure the only one you believe in....
Therefore, you would do well, to "reverse course", and acknowledge publicly that
[DMSO + fluconazole], just MIGHT be the treatment/cure for rosacea, and for a
host of other diseases.

We need not discuss the reality, that no drug should be abused, which we would
certainly agree with you on.
But frankly, it is clear to us, that you are so beholden to the "status quo" in
this matter, far beyond the obvious conflict of interests created by your wish
to sell your "rosacea book", that we believe that there is no hope for you to
change your intentions in this matter.  But the truth is, that we all at all
times have the opportunity of repenting for our wrongdoings/lies and
half-truth-lies, ever the blackest of lies.

Since you do not have even the least amount of trust from us, that we freely
gave to Brady Barrows, (certainly undeserved), during many months of private
email give-and-take, we regret not being able even to warn you of obvious
pitfalls you are facing.

But I do wish you well, Geoffrey.   And I am heart-sick, at the attempts you
have made, to stop/delay the first-ever, one-and-only treatment/cure for
rosacea, and for many other diseases, [DMSO + fluconzole], from coming to all
rosaceans as quickly as possible.

If you could give me even the slightest reason to trust you, I'm sure that I
would do whatever I might be able to, to help you in this matter.  But I admit,
that I believe that there is very little I can do for you, other than praying
for you, which I do.

I am ignorant enough of your "complete situation", and I am naive enough, to
believe that you could take this breakthrough treatment/cure for rosacea and run
with it.  After all, Geoffrey, we've given it to you completely free of charge.

This [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure for rosacea is only the tip of the
iceberg, in our opinion, concerning a truly significant NEW THERAPUTIC
PRINCIPLE, as is covered at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/193

In our opinion, you are positioned ideally, to research this "iceberg", and to
help bring healing to Mankind beyond anyone's expectations.  But because you are
choosing the path of "status quo" darkness, perhaps that research will never be
open to you.

Choose this day, Geoffrey Nase, whom you will serve, God or Mammon, concerning
this first treatment/cure for rosacea ever discovered.  Depending on your
on-going decisions and actions in this matter, your fate is sealed.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming --- PS - BTW, you are incorrect in thinking that I am BANNED from
active rosacea-groups other than r-s.  We haven't even begun yet, Geoffrey....
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Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2004 23:46:34 -0000
From: "Dr. Geoffrey Nase" <drnase1000@...>
To: fulltruth40@...
Subject: DMSO

Geoffrey wrote:
Dave,
One of my biggest contributions to rosacea sufferers over the past 8
years has been to inform them and warn them about potentially
dangerous topical compounds.  In the past, the full glycolic acid
peel, dermabrasion, cryosurgery and CO2 laser use on rosacea skin
was prevalent....now it is not.  I consider topical DMSO to be in
the same category as the full glycolic acid peel with the addition
of the visual disturbances.  I am sorry you feel so threatened, but
giving out bad medical advice that could injure the facial skin and
ocular surface is just unwise.  Based on the recent feedback, I feel
that most are now properly informed.  Additionally, your ban from
all the other rosacea groups should indicate that your abrasiveness
and advice are not being well received.  I am sorry that your 15
minutes of fame is up, but if it stops rosacea sufferers from
harming themselves, then it was worth taking  a few of your "off the
mark" abrasive stabs.
Geoffrey
______________________________

Dr. Geoffrey Nase
Ph.D. Microvascular Physiologist
www.drnase.com


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For Everyone,
This is just another note, debunking the continuing efforts by Dr. Geoffrey
Nase, PhD, to stop/delay this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure for rosacea,
and for many other diseases, from reaching suffering rosaceans.  His most recent
failed attempt, which is using the "shotgun approach", is 99.9% irrelevant to
treating/curing rosacea with [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], and the 0.1% is
unsubstantiated, as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/62447
and at:
http://escribe.com/health/rosacea-support/m57153.html
First, we must simply make it clear, that Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, does not
bother to substantiate the "reports" he cites, of supposed damage done by [DMSO
+ fluconazole].

Furthermore, it goes without saying, that no drug should be abused, or used
improperly, so it follows that every single bit of the lengthy "information"
offered by Nase in this "report" is interesting, but totally irrelevant to the
safe use of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to treat/cure your rosacea.

Dr. G. Nase, PhD seems to be totally oblivious to the fact that doctors all over
the world are presently prescribing [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], to treat/cure
rosacea.  And these are Medical Doctors, who must answer to a much higher
standard than "Dr." Nase, PhD does,  who only experiments on "Subjects", who
have no doubt signed legal waivers that protect "Dr." G. Nase, PhD, if he harms
them.

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX
And much more importantly, the first reports of prescriptions written strictly
through Internet contact, for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to treat/cure rosacea,
have very recently been reported from the UK, making it infinitely easier to
obtain, by rosaceans all over the world.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX

Whether Dr. Nase, PhD is simply more ignorant than we can believe, about this
[DMSO + 10% fluconazole] treatment/cure for rosacea, or whether he is being
intentionally deceptive, time (and possibly lawyers) will tell.

In any case, this "Dr. G. Nase, PhD" has finally stooped to the inexcusable
tactic, of attacking the honor of an 80-year-old lifetime renowned scientist,
who is still working every day to help benefit Mankind, with the myriad proper
healing applications of DMSO.  Please believe me, in my opinion that Dr. Stanley
Jacob, MD is quite capable of ignoring the posturing of a detractor such as
"Dr." Geoffrey Nase, PhD.

I have learned a lot about the art of dealing with those who want to distract us
from the full truth, because I have studied the forty year history of Dr.
Jacob's overcoming detractors, during his past forty-plus years of service to
Mankind, concerning the proper healing uses of Dimethyl Sulfoxide, (DMSO).

And so, Nase has publicly attacked the good Dr. Stanley Jacob, MD, with stale 20
year old "claims", that are at best irrelevant, and are most certainly tedious
and vague, since the FDA has not, and is not considering the outlandish
suggestion that Nase seems to be making, that the FDA now should reverse its 26
year past approval of DMSO for human use!!!!   Wow!  Is Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD
kidding???

In any case, "Dr." Geoffrey Nase, PhD knows very well, that the full truth about
DMSO does not depend on the reputation of the honorable Dr. Stanley Jacob, MD. 
The full truth, like gold, is where you find it.  If you want the full truth
about DMSO, you need only study at:
http://dmso.org
with all its associated links.

Judge it for yourself, and then find the means of obtaining [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole], from the Medical Doctors who are prescribing it, to indeed
treat/cure your rosacea, as it did mine.
But don't ask "Dr." Nase, PhD for a prescription, because he's not authorized to
write one.
And so, we must properly dismiss "Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD", with the prayer that
he will be able to overcome his seemingly overpowering urge to prevent rosaceans
from even TRYING [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to treat/cure their rosacea.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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Confirmed Internet Rx Written For [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] !!!

For Everyone,
Just another note, to clarify the most recent "report" put out by Dr. Geoffrey
Nase, PhD, which is apparently aimed at preventing rosaceans from being
treated/cured by [DMSO + fluconazole], as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/62377
and at:
http://escribe.com/health/rosacea-support/m57084.html
First, it is very important to note, that Dr. G. Nase, PhD does not give any
clear URL or source for his "FDA report", so that the reader can check and know
the context of the "report" he is promoting.

Secondly, and most importantly, he is only giving you a half-truth-lie.  He
fails to mention, that the USA "medical system", (and the FDA), fully accepts as
valid, legal, and ethical, the prescribing of any FDA approved drug, such as
Dimethyl Sulfoxide, (DMSO), or [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], by any USA doctor, for
purposes other than the purpose originally approved by the FDA.
This full truth is explained more completely, at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/18

The very nature of this half-truth-lie is indicative of the integrity of Dr.
Geoffrey Nase, PhD, since his education is so good that we could never believe
that he could be ignorant of the full truth of this matter, and he "somehow
forgets" to inform us in his "report".

I have today confirmed that the Rx for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] has been written
by Internet, through a UK website.  Unfortunately, it is still unclear whether
these prescriptions can be filled in the USA, since the doctors there are
licensed by the UK medical system.
STAY TUNED.
What we do know at this time, is that these UK based Internet written
prescriptions for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] can be filled anywhere in the world
that UK doctors' credentials are accepted.

It looks like the "rosacea-book" of Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, will be obsolete
much sooner than he ever expected, since soon enough, all rosacea will have been
treated and cured, with topical [DMSO + fluconazole].  And this includes the
eradication of a final stage form of rosacea, rhinophyma.  Looking at pictures
of this disease, which so horribly deforms the nose and face, I can't imagine
how anyone could be so heartless as to want to prevent its worldwide
treatment/cure.

I would like to be the first to wish Dr. G. Nase, PhD the greatest success, in
whatever future endeavors he might attempt, and I'm sure that his sterling
reputation will follow him, wherever he goes.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
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For Everyone,
Just another note, to clarify the most recent "report" put out by Dr. Geoffrey
Nase, PhD, which is apparently aimed at preventing rosaceans from being
treated/cured by [DMSO + fluconazole], as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/62377
and at:
http://escribe.com/health/rosacea-support/m57084.html

First, it is very important to note, that Dr. G Nase, PhD does not give any
clear URL or source for his "FDA report", so that the reader can check and know
the context of the "report" he is promoting.

Secondly, and most importantly, he is only giving you a half-truth-lie.  He
fails to mention, that the USA "medical system", (and the FDA), fully accepts as
valid, legal, and ethical, the prescribing of any FDA approved drug, such as
Dimethyl Sulfoxide, (DMSO), or [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], by any USA doctor, for
purposes other than the purpose originally approved by the FDA.
This full truth is explained more completely, at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/18

The very nature of this half-truth-lie is indicative of the integrity of Dr.
Geoffrey Nase, PhD, since his education is so good that we could never believe
that he could be ignorant of the full truth of this matter, and he "somehow
forgets" to inform us in his "report".

I have today confirmed that the Rx for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] has been written
by Internet, through a UK website.  Unfortunately, it is still unclear whether
these prescriptions can be filled in the USA, since the doctors there are
licensed by the UK medical system.
STAY TUNED.
What we do know at this time, is that these UK based Internet written
prescriptions for [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] can be filled anywhere in the world
that UK doctors' credentials are accepted.

It looks like the "rosacea-book" of Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, will be obsolete
much sooner than he ever expected, since soon enough, all rosacea will have been
treated and cured, with topical [DMSO + fluconazole].  And this includes the
eradication of a final stage form of rosacea, rhinophyma.  Looking at pictures
of this disease, which so horribly deforms the nose and face, I can't imagine
how anyone could be so heartless as to want to prevent its worldwide
treatment/cure.

I would like to be the first to wish Dr. G. Nase, PhD the greatest success, in
whatever future endeavors he might attempt, and I'm sure that his sterling
reputation will follow him, wherever he goes.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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This post concerns the "report" by Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, found at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/62360
and at:
http://escribe.com/health/rosacea-support/m57066.html

This is just another note, concerning the recent "Topical DMSO Warning" put out
by Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD.   Dr. Nase may believe that he is protecting himself
from legal liability from any possible future class-action lawsuits, on behalf
of all rosaceans, with his recent public "report" that "two young females" have
"contacted him", with claims that DMSO has harmed them.

Everyone knows that litigation of this type is rampant in the USA, because there
are no built-in punishments for frivolous lawsuits here.  Medical malpractice
lawsuits are damaging our entire medical system, because so many doctors have
stopped practicing, rather than try to pay the high medical malpractice
insurance cost of continuing to work.

Given this atmosphere, Dr. Nase may mistakenly believe that he might be legally
protecting himself, by "reporting" the case of these "two young females".  But
Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD may have just stepped from the frying pan, into the fire.

If future worldwide lawsuits were to be brought against those who have tried to
suppress the news of this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure for rosacea, and
for many other diseases, I am sure that the prolongation of suffering by
rosaceans, and by those with other newly curable diseases, would not be
considered frivolous, by anyone.

And if it is proven that these same persons, after a sixteen month period of
attempted suppression, went on to actively launch "scare tactics", to even
further prolong the suffering of innocent rosaceans, who would have otherwise
been cured of rosacea years sooner, I'm sure that the judge in those cases would
not look kindly on such behavior.  The relatives of possible suicides, caused by
this prolongation of suffering, might be especially avid in their attitude, to
punish such intentional, profit-orientated actions.

If I were the judge, in one of these possible future class-action lawsuits, I
would especially note the TIMING, of this behavior, in judging the culpability
of the accused.

Sixteen months of silence, followed, (just coincidentally), by such multiple
"reporting" by Dr. Nase, would seem to be an especially cynical and vindictive
behavior by Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, and would certainly heavily influence my
judgment, concerning the guilt of the accused.

Journalists have some protection against liability for their "reporting", but
there are limits, even to the Constitutional First Amendment protection afforded
them.  But Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, has no such protection.   If it were proven
that he had knowingly, or even negligently reported a hoax, (i.e. a lawsuit
later proven to be frivolous, or failed), then Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD would
certainly receive the full punishment under the law, for his behavior.

And even if such a lawsuit were to succeed, (based on lies), Dr. Nase would
still be accountable for the veracity of "reports" he would promote, based on
the medical realities, of whether the FDA would have approved DMSO in 1978, if
they knew that such "harm" could be done by SYSTEMIC DMSO, which never even
touched the eyes externally.

My belief, is that Dr. Nase is flirting with disaster, if he is trying to
convince the Yahoo! Company to "go along" with his current attacks on [DMSO +
fluconazole], the treatment/cure for rosacea, and for many other diseases, by
blatantly, publicly "reporting" what he has "heard", as if it is fact.  By doing
so, he would be trying to entice the Yahoo! Company into making the same mistake
he is making, in trying to suppress the news of the discovery of the first
treatment/cure ever discovered, for rosacea, and for many other diseases.

I only hope and pray, that the Yahoo! Company would be wiser than Dr. Geoffrey
Nase, PhD, in this matter, because I'm sure that lawyers all over the world
would be even happier to deplete the rich reserves of the Yahoo! Company, rather
than just settling for the assets of Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD.

If there is any justice in the USA, and if Dr. Nase continues to refuse to
relent in his public attacks on [DMSO + fluconazole], the treatment/cure for
rosacea, and for many other diseases, then Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD will not only
face future immediate bankruptcy, but will owe payments to all rosaceans for the
rest of his life.

The full truth is all that's needed, to prevent the Yahoo! Company from making
the same mistakes that Dr. Nase is making, in this matter.

Let us pray, that the right thinking folks at Yahoo! will easily see through
this current public "report" by Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD, to the future of
hundreds of millions of cured rosaceans, thankful that someone was willing to do
what was needed,  to allow the discovery of this treatment/cure for rosacea to
reach them, and to end their suffering.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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For Everyone,
This is just a note, concerning the most recent attempt by Dr. Geoffrey Nase,
PhD, to stop/delay this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure from reaching all
rosaceans.
Concerning the post, as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/62360

The claims about "vision loss" are lies, plain and simple.  This is the same
sort of lie that was told in the 1960s, connected with the FDA, in cooperation
with Drug Companies that apparently wanted to stop DMSO use, because they could
not patent it, and therefore couldn't make any money from it.

Those Drug Companies never found any "substitute" for DMSO to sell, but the lies
still "float around", and "someone" evidently wants to "raise them from the
dead", and use them to stop/delay this treatment/cure from reaching all
rosaceans.

Dr. Stanley Jacob, MD, world renowned and considered to be the "Father Of DMSO",
because of his lifetime of work with Dimethyl Sulfoxide, (DMSO), while debunking
the detractors, might certainly have an opinion about this most recent attempt
to discredit DMSO, this time connected with "rosacea-profiteers" who seem to be
clutching at straws, willing to tell any lie, in order to stop/delay this
treatment/cure from reaching all rosaceans.  Dr. Stanley Jacob, MD can be
contacted at:
jacobs@...
jacobs @ ohsu.edu

One of his websites is at:
www.dmso.org

with an important source of the truth about this matter, at:
http://www.dmso.org/subLevels/what.htm

This most recent attack, claiming "vision loss", has most likely come at this
time, because [DMSO + fluconazole] has begun to be available by Rx obtained by
Internet, worldwide, according to some reports I've received.

So, if the "rosacea-profiteers" can't stop the prescriptions from being written,
then perhaps they can stop the rosaceans from TRYING this treatment/cure.  There
is one good thing, about this lie.  It's the biggest one they've got, and if it
doesn't keep rosaceans from being cured, then the "rosacea-profiteers" will just
have to tuck their tails between their legs, and slink away.

Even though this lie, about "affected vision", was difficult to disprove in the
1960s, it finally was debunked by 1978, when DMSO passed all FDA safety
requirements with flying colors for human use.   This made DMSO eligible to be
prescribed by any USA doctor, for any use that doctor might decide would be
safe.  Since the curing of all rosacea by [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] will make the
book sold by Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD obsolete, one should consider the source of
this disinformation.

Of all the rosaceans who have contacted me with success stories for this
treatment, not one has given any indication of "vision loss", or any problem
whatsoever, about their vision.
Furthermore, I have, (repeatedly for many months), treated not only the skin
immediately adjacent to my eyeballs, and the inside and outside of my nose, but
I have many times inadvertently placed [DMSO + fluconazole] into my eyes, which
actually seemed to have a beneficial, anti-inflammatory effect.  This happened,
because I was treating my brows, immediately above my eyes, and also treating my
closed eyelids.

It is also an established fact, that even high priced racehorses are treated
when needed, with an opthalmologic solution of DMSO, placed into the eyes of any
animal needing it, by any veterinarian.

If there had been any "vision loss" during the last FOUR DECADES, in these
valuable animals, we certainly would have heard about it.  But no such "vision
loss" has occurred.

The "Topical DMSO Warning" that Dr. Nase has put out is shamefully erroneous, at
best, and is most certainly a cruel means of trying to deprive rosaceans of this
treatment/cure for rosacea, and for many other diseases.

Dr. Geoffrey Nase, PhD should be ashamed, because he of all people knows that
the FDA would have never approved DMSO for human use in 1978, if there were the
slightest chance that "vision loss" could result from its use, on any part of
the human body.

Shame on you, Geoffrey.  You owe an apology to all rosaceans, for this latest
attempt to stop/delay this treatment/cure from reaching all rosaceans.  I
certainly hope and pray that you fail, but I'm sure you will succeed in fooling
some rosaceans, until the number of cured rosaceans is so great, that even those
who believed in you, will wonder why you would do such a cruel thing.
To Cure Rosacea, See:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, [Name Deleted],
Thank you very much for your appreciation of this website.  I daily thank God
that it is in existence, since I believe it is the only full truth source of
info on this treatment/cure at this time.

If anyone knows who would create an "identical Internet site" of "rosacea-cure",
please let me know, and then this would no longer be completely at the mercy of
the Yahoo! Company, that has threatened to delete "rosacea-cure", and could do
so at any time.
It just so happens, that the Yahoo! Co. "hosts" the most humungous "Rosacea
Treatment Clinic" in the universe, (one of the over 200 products there is over
$500.00!!!), so I'm not just imagining their motive to delete "rosacea-cure".

I'm not a doctor, so it's impossible for me to legally give you any
authoritative answer.  Only your doctor can answer your questions for you, and
he most likely is not very familiar with [DMSO + fluconazole].

That said, it is my belief, that [DMSO + fluconazole] does not remedy "acne
vulgaris", which is very different than rosacea.  Accutane is normally
prescribed for "acne vulgaris", NOT for rosacea.

"Acne vulgaris" is caused by and associated with bacterial "vectors".  Rosacea
is known to NOT be associated with these bacterial "vectors", so I have doubted
whether [DMSO + fluconazole] would help "acne vulgaris" at all, except that the
DMSO might have some very temporary, (less than one day?), anti-inflammatory
effect, on the "acne vulgaris".
For an excellent description of the difference, see the post by Dr. Marjorie
Lazoff, MD, at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-knowledge/message/2977

So my confidence is as high as ever, that this med will cure 100% of all
rosacea, sometimes called "acne rosacea", which can be very similar looking to
"acne vulgaris".
In that case, we can suspect that rosacea, (or acne rosacea), may very well have
some "fungal vector" involved, since fluconazole/Diflucan is an antifungal,
which is transported deeply into the skin by the DMSO, (with a very small
percentage going into the bloodstream and throughout the body).

In fact, perhaps my most significant "claim" for [DMSO + fluconazole], is that
it will perfectly DIAGNOSE rosacea, since I believe that it will only "react"
with rosaceous skin, while not having much effect on "acne vulgaris".

It is not uncommon, from what I can find out, that anyone might have both "acne
vulgaris" and "rosacea", (or acne rosacea, as it's sometimes called), at the
same time.  Since these two different diseases should be treated differently,
this can cause problems.
But I see no reason why oral Accutane and topical [DMSO + fluconazole] cannot be
used at the same time, although only your doctor can tell you what you should
do.
Be very sure to carefully read my "Summarized Directions", at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/210
Even though [DMSO + fluconazole] is proven safe, temporary redness and skin
peeling may cause temporary psychological discomfort, which can be minimized by
following those "Directions".

I consider topically applied [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] to be intrinsically
extremely benign and safe, because it is only applied to the skin.  Accutane can
cause more problems, in my opinion, because it is swallowed orally.

But only your doctor should advise you, (day to day),
concerning your question(s), about how long after
stopping Accutane you might use [DMSO + fluconazole],
or whether you can use them at the same time.

I'm very sorry, [Name Deleted], that I can't be more exact here, but I am not a
doctor, and we are only on the Internet, so your doctor knows a whole lot more
about you than I can.
As you may notice, I see no reason why any rosacean
can't at least apply [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] one time,
and wait and watch for a week or two, to evaluate the effect.
If stinging occurs, when they apply this med,
then they would know that they do have some rosacea,
even if it might be "mixed" with some "acne vulgaris".

And then, with their doctor's attention, they can proceed
in their use of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], slowly but surely
getting rid of that rosacea.
I hope this helps.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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Date:  Fri Aug 6, 2004
Subject:  Can I use this with Accutane?
[Name Deleted] wrote:
Hi,
First of all great website and letting people know about this
treatment - which otherwise I would no nothing about. I would just
like to know how strong is this stuff on your skin...would it be
safe to use whilst on Accutane, and if not how long  would you need
to be off it to go on this treatment/cure? I've just started a low
dosage of 20mg daily for my acne...
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For Everyone,
Please note, that Brady Barrows (BB) is very skillful at manipulating the
following May 2003 "public e-mail discussion", into an all-or-nothing scenario,
between ALL profit motive or NO profit motive.

It appears that he starts out by attempting to protect a "rosacea-profiteer",
from the full truth I have exposed.  His very first statement to this person,
who has "started" a new group that obviously is meant to distract attention away
from my "rosacea-cure" group, as it has almost exactly the same name, created a
month after my group, is:
"I commend you for forming this group and hope the best for you."
Hmmmmmmmmm....

BB later attempts a "snow-job", with his "How can you be sure?" gambit, but he
gets in over his head.  His "What is your opinion of these 'cures'?" gambit
fails, as well, when I don't bite the hook.

At one point, BB literally begs "others" to please register more 'cures', which
of course would serve to "muddy the water", when [DMSO + fluconazole] is the
only true cure.
Hmmmmmmmmm....
Is BB still "developing" this (many 'cures') gambit, which stops/delays the
establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] as the only true treatment/cure for
rosacea? As long as many 'cures' exist, without one true cure, BB will be able
to continue his "Internet rosacea business".

BB's mind-set doesn't seem to "welcome" the concept that "spiritually higher"
motives must overrule the profit motive, since he only becomes silent, when I am
finally able to state this clearly.
His dropping of the subject at that point, without comment, speaks volumes about
Brady Barrows' profit-first mind-set.

We need only read his public statements, to realize how adamant BB is about
justifying his profit-motive, as at:
http://www.rosacea-control.com/html/profit.html

The discovery of the first-ever, one-and-only treatment/cure for rosacea has
forced BB to choose, between his profit motive, and "spiritually higher"
motivations.
So, when forced to choose between profit, and "compassion" for all rosaceans
whose suffering will be prolonged by his "profit motivated" actions, which does
he choose?
So far, we know what path he has chosen, and because of all the private email I
have exchanged with BB since May 2003, I do not believe that he will change his
"prime profit" path, any time soon.
We simply have to take BB at his word, that he will adamantly justify his
profit-motive, no matter what.

And so, I believe that we have given enough attention to Brady Lee Barrows, who
has not even mentioned his/any doctor's opinion, in his pontificating "Diary",
of his claims about using [DMSO + fluconazole].

It is a shame, that he could not have been more motivated to alleviate the
suffering of all rosaceans, at this advent of the first-ever, one-and-only cure
for rosacea.
In my opinion, whatever profit he makes from this situation will not help him
avoid the consequences of his actions, which will follow him even beyond the
grave.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
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SUMMATION OF THE FOLLOWING JULY 2003 PUBLIC E-MAIL EXCHANGE:
Brady Barrows wrote:
"But everyone who provides help for rosaceans usually has the best of intentions
and is not solely in it just for the profit motive. The profit motive is part of
the entire system we live in."

And Then, Dave Fleming wrote:
"I believe everyone, the world over, would agree with you, that there is nothing
wrong with the profit motive, as long as it never is allowed to overrule the
"spiritually higher" motivations of our lives."

Brady Barrows became silent, after I clarified this, without agreeing or
commenting....

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From:  Dave Fleming <fulltruth40@y...>
Date:  Jul 2, 2003
Subject:  Re: New Group - and profit

Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, Brady,
I pray that all is well with you. Your question is answered by the statement,
"Time will tell." This is not an empty statement.

Although it allows for the possibility that many will be deceived, and lose
their money, to false "cures", the only sure way to tell the true from the
false, is by giving it time, and effective investigation.

Sort of like the old saying about giving someone, (i.e. the person making the
"cure claim"), enough rope, to hang themselves. I have only been here for two
months, but you have been dealing with the problems of rosaceans, for much
longer.
If there have been "cure claims" for rosacea, let's say during the last five or
ten years, that "came and went", so to speak, those would most likely qualify,
as having been motivated ONLY by the profit motive.
In other words, after enough people have spent their money, and found out the
hard way that the "cure" did not work, then you and I would most likely agree,
that that cure was entirely false, and motivated ONLY by profit.

Of course, I may have an OPINION, concerning the validity of any present claim
for a "cure", but it is only an OPINION, until time proves my OPINION correct or
incorrect. Since each "cure" claim must be taken case-by-case, and each person's
education and knowledge make their opinion better or worse than average, it is
indeed, as you say, a "tough one".

But five years from now, you and I would probably agree completely, as to what
the real, complete truth was, concerning the motivation for any of the five
"cure claim" examples you give. So I hope I have answered your question, without
opening the can of worms of applying my OPINION to those four PRESENT examples.

I did feel the need, as a public service, to offer the QUESTIONS about this new
group, which I offered, so light heartedly. My QUESTIONING, about this new
group-owner's, (i.e. [Name Deleted]), motivation, might save some people some
wasted time and money. That was the only intention in my original short
statement.

As for profit in general, I could not agree with you more, that it is a
sensitive, misunderstood issue.
I believe everyone, the world over, would agree with you, that there is nothing
wrong with the profit motive, as long as it never is allowed to overrule the
"spiritually higher" motivations of our lives.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming
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From:  Brady Barrows <brady.barrows@v...>
Date:  Jul 1, 2003
Subject:  Re: New Group - and profit

Brady Barrows wrote:
Dave,
You still haven't provided an example of a rosacea 'cure' that is solely a
profit motive. There are now a total of five 'cures' for rosacea on my LINKS
page and here they are >
A 'Cure' for Rosacea? > http://www. [Name Deleted] /rosacea/
A $5 "cure" for rosacea by [Name Deleted] >http:// [Name Deleted] /rosacea.html
A $20 "cure" for rosacea by [Name Deleted] > http://home [Name Deleted/
[DMSO + fluconazole] 'cure' > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
[Name Deleted] > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Name Deleted/

Which one of them is solely for a profit or can you provide ANY example of a
treatment or 'cure' solely for profit? I still think you cannot find one, but I
am waiting. Maybe you can? Tough one, huh? How can you know?

If just one rosacean benefits, then your example becomes meaningless. If every
rosacean finds the 'cure' worthless, then you have a case for your profit motive
being evil.
But everyone who provides help for rosaceans usually has the best of intentions
and is not solely in it just for the profit motive. The profit motive is part of
the entire system we live in.
Brady Barrows

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From:  Dave Fleming <fulltruth40@y...>
Date:  Jul 1, 2003
Subject:  Re: New Group - and profit

Dave Fleming wrote:
Dear Brady,
Wow! I had no idea my light hearted comment would bring me so much info!!! [Name
Deleted] and [Name Deleted] are names I have never seen, so I guess I have not
done all my homework.
I am sorry that no one has asked me about the P.T. Barnum story about the
"Egress" sign. I was dying to tell it.

The deeper implication, in what I wrote, was that any "cure" offered by anyone
motivated ONLY by profit, would be a false or sham "cure", by definition. I do
have my opinions about [Name Deleted], but I think I defined the situation
clearly, when I repeated the wise man. "Time will tell."

I think it is strange, that [Name Deleted] did not mention initially, that
he/she had had rosacea.
I think it is strange, that his/her original long post listed several URLs at
the end, that are obviously meant to generate income, while he/she claims that
is not his/her goal.
I also find it strange, that the name of his/her group is so close to my own
group's name, (i.e. rosacea-cure, vs [Name Deleted]).
I could go on and on, but that will suffice, I guess.

None of this is of much importance to me, but I did feel the need to warn those
reading the rosacean posts, by offering my short, light hearted opinion about
the situation.
As you know, dear Brady, I have experienced attacks, (by what might be called
the "status-quo forces"), and I expect many more.

I expect these attacks to be crafty, deceptive in the extreme, and well
coordinated.

This new group MIGHT exist for the sole purpose of "muddying the water", and
trying to defeat the establishment of this special and amazing mixture of
DMSO-fluconazole, (named FLUCONAZOLE 1% SOLUTION), AS THE ONLY SUBSTANCE EVER
DISCOVERED TO EFFECTIVELY ATTACK THE CAUSE OF ROSACEA.

I hope you remain patient with me, if at all posssible. Because of your open
minded help, I believe you have so far had a part in establishing this, however
long it may take.

I can only thank you for that, and I definitely apologize, if I have led anyone
to think that I would say that receiving profit in any endeavor is evil.

As we all know, it is only when the profit motive overrules all other motives,
that evil enters in. In all cases, "you will know them by their fruits".
God Bless,
Dave Fleming

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From:  Brady Barrows <brady.barrows@v...>
Date:  Jun 30, 2003
Subject:   Re: New Group - and profit

Brady Barrows wrote:
Dave,
Your implication is that making a profit is evil in itself if it is the 'only'
motive.
Discerning whether a treatment for rosacea is the ONLY motive for a profit is
quite a feat. Can you give an example since you are so enthusiastic about this?
What example of a treatment for rosacea do you have that is ONLY profit for a
motive?
I think you cannot come up with even one. If we could agree on an example you
would have a starting point or standard which you could develop your argument.

However, profit is a factor in probably EVERY treatment for rosacea. There are
two 'cures' claimed for rosacea on my web site LINKS page other than yours. One
is a 'cure' claimed by [Name Deleted] and another by [Name Deleted].

Can you determine whether either 'cure' is only for profit? How can you
determine this? What if both are sincerely trying to help rosaceans and the
results are satisfactory to some rosaceans? As you can see you are not the only
one claiming a 'cure.'
And no doubt there are others I am not aware about or will join in the claim to
'cure' rosacea sometime in the future.

I hope others will let me know about any other 'cure' for rosacea since I have
the commercial clearinghouse of information on rosacea.

Or a person can go to the website that claims to be THE non-profit site for
information on rosacea, the NRS. But notice that the treatments promoted on the
NRS site are commercial treatments by physicians and pharmaceutical companies
making a profit on rosacea.

It is legal and ethical to make a profit on disease. Doctors do it. Hospitals do
it. Pharmaceutical companies do it. For those who have an issue with making a
profit on disease, I have made a profit statement on my web site at this url >
http://www.rosaceans.com/html/profit.html

[Name Deleted] claims not to be making any profit on forming a yahoo group and
you have too. Both of you are to be commended for such a sacrifice of time and
effort for rosaceans.

[Second Name Deleted] is another example of someone who has sacrificed his time
and energy for rosaceans and claims to be a non-profit yahoo group and probably
is THE example since most rosaceans are in his group and respect his rules or
are banned. However, whatever that group discusses about treatment for rosacea
still costs money and profit is being made down the line somewhere.

It still costs money to apply either 'cure' whether [Name Deleted]'s or yours.
The money spent on either treatment for rosacea is not without someone making a
profit. Your compounding pharmacist makes a profit on rosacea. So does Pfizer
when it makes the Diflucan.

Making a profit on disease does not necessarily mean that it wrong when the
patient gets results that are satisfactory. Making a profit on disease is only
wrong when it is illegal or when the treatment is a scam.

When a doctor gives a prescription for Metrogel and tetracycline for rosacea, he
does so in good faith that the treatment will help the rosacean. If it doesn't
help, the doctor is not condemned (legally or ethically) for using the standard
treatment.
The doctor then tries other medical treatments in accord with standard medical
practice that may help. What the doctor does is legal and ethical and he makes a
profit, the drug stores selling the prescription makes a profit, and so do the
pharmaceutical companies.

Most agree that making a profit on disease is acceptable and legal. There are
countries I have heard about that have socialized medicine and have a different
view on profit. Anyway, just my thoughts on profit.
Brady

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From:  Dave Fleming <fulltruth40@y...>
Date:  Jun 30, 2003
Subject:  Re:  New Group

Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, Brady,
I once asked a wise man, "Since evil is so good at deception, how can one tell
the difference between the true and the false?"
His answer was so effective, and so simple, that it surprised me.

He said, "Time will tell."

Which is the same, I guess, as, "You will know them by their fruits."

P.T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute." When there is reason to
suspect that profit is the ONLY motive for any "cure", you should look for the
"Egress" sign. But the "Egress" sign is another Barnum story....
God Bless,
Dave Fleming

Brady Barrows <brady.barrows@v...> wrote:
[Name Deleted],
I commend you for forming this group and hope the best for you. Those who wish
to further discuss this subject should post at the new yahoo group. The
rosaceans group has now had two offshoots for a rosacea 'cure.' This group does
do something for rosacea at the very least, forming new yahoo groups!
Brady


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For Everyone,
How do we speed up the process of helping every
rosacean to try this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure?
If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

It appears that the "rosacea-profiteers" are preparing their "big guns", of
"rigged rosacea research", to try to discredit [DMSO + fluconazole].   They have
nothing to lose but their honor and their souls, in the long run, and that
hasn't stopped them from trying to continue the hundreds of millions of dollars
they're profiting every year from rosacea.

Alas, they are unaware of the nature of the historic times we live in.
His truth is marching on.

The following post is just another private email I sent out recently, trying to
explain the reality of this situation to yet another uncertain rosacean.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming  ----TEXT OF PRIVATE EMAIL FOLLOWS ----

Dave Fleming wrote:
Hello, Mr. [Name Deleted],
Thank you for your interest in this cure for rosacea.
I do appreciate your attitude, about "cures" for rosacea.  In May 2003, the term
(rosacea cure), Searched at Google, came up with just over 15,000 "hits". 
Recently, there were over 46,000 "hits".  I am so convinced that [DMSO +
fluconazole] will cure ALL rosacea, that I actually believe that number would
still be only 15,000, if this TRUE CURE did not exist, because it is the
"rosacea-profiteers", who are pumping that figure up to 46,000.

THEY, (in my opinion), know and believe that this med cures rosacea, or they
would not be attacking and suppressing it so extensively, since May 2003.

But I do understand that that's just my opinion.  However, our opinions are many
times correct, depending on the "reasons" for our opinions.

The "reasons" for my opinion, that this med will cure all rosacea, are perhaps
difficult to find and separate out, in all the material on the "rosacea-cure"
board.  But it would be worth your time, to study there, if you have rosacea,
and if you want to get rid of it, as at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/

I am not really receiving that much skepticism.  The problem, quite simply, is
to "get the word out", in such a way as to make it clear to all rosaceans, that
they have nothing to lose, if they TRY [DMSO +10% fluconazole], and EVERYTHING
TO GAIN.
[Name Deleted], you state:
"I have NO papules, pustules, ect...my face is just hot and red....probably NOT
the same as your case"

Since this med costs so little, hasn't it struck you, that you very well might
cure your "condition", by trying this benign med???  That is true science, not
just the "statistics" that you trust.

Besides, both DMSO and fluconazole/Diflucan passed all the FDA's required
"statistics" of safety, many years ago, and [DMSO + fluconazole/Diflucan] is not
a "radical new drug", (as Brady Barrows has incorrectly claimed, in order to
alienate rosaceans), but only a mixture of these two proven safe ingredients.

All true science is TRYING something, to see if it fits your HYPOTHESIS. The
hypothesis in this case, is that this med cures rosacea.  I understand that
rosacea is not clearly even defined, much less well diagnosed, by "modern
medical science".

But perhaps my most important claim for this med, is that it will DIAGNOSE
rosacea, because there will be no "reaction/effect", on non-rosaceous skin.

It may well be, that this med will not cure your "condition", whatever it is.
But it is extremely likely, that it will cure you, (in my opinion).  :-)

I tell you plainly, [Name Deleted], my confidence is higher than ever, that this
med will cure 100% of all rosacea, with all the experience and knowledge I have
of other rosaceans having good results with this, worldwide, after 33 months
since I first used this med.

I will tell you a secret.  I have counted seven, and probably eight DIFFERENT
TYPES of "infestations" on my body, that have been cured by this med.  I cannot
tell you all of this secret, but there it is.  This med cures MANY, MANY, MANY
different "types" of skin diseases, including rosacea, (and rosacea may indeed
be caused by more than one "type" of "infestation", as well).

And this med is relatively cheap, and has no known adverse side effects, after
being prescribed since 1998.  How about that?
BTW, the term "side effect" must be clearly understood here.
Do we say that being unconscious, (from a general anesthetic), is a "side
effect" of surgery?  No.
With the same thinking, the stinging and skin peeling, during this
treatment/cure, are not "side effects", but are actually an integral part of
curing this disease, directly related to attacking and getting rid of this
"rosacea causing entity".  This med has virtually no effect, (and no side
effects), on healthy skin.

The term "side effect" is normally used for
unwanted effects that are caused by the "remedial agent"
but have no connection with the actual curative effect(s).

These parasitical "infestations" have evidently evolved to "grow" on us, (in
many cases with some level of "stealth").  I discovered three of these
"infestations", only because I treated my face, and a very small percentage of
the med circulated throughout my body, and slightly "irritated" the
"infestations", on my arm, so that I could locate them. I then treated them
directly, and cured them.  Isn't that interesting?  :-)

The reasons for your not having the "statistics" that you want in this case, are
myriad.  The structure of the USA "medical system" makes this med an "orphan". 
This med takes time, and repetitive "treatments", to complete its work/cure.
This cure does not remove "damage" already done by the disease.  Huge
"rosacea-profiteer" forces are "muddying the water".  The list goes on and on,
to include the lack of true care in this matter by many pill-pushing USA
doctors, in my opinion.

But you need not wait for those "statistics", [Name Deleted], to know whether
this med will cure you.  You need only try it, and find out for yourself.

That's real science in action.  And there are some USA doctors who care enough
for their patients, to write this Rx for them.  Find one.

The "odds" are with you, that you will at the very least improve your
"condition" more than you have ever experienced with any "treatment/control"
you've ever tried, just as has already occurred with Brady Barrows, (in my
opinion, according to his "Diary"), although he hasn't admitted it clearly yet.

He could be making a lot of money, from any delay he can create in this
situation.  You might notice that there are side-banner vertical ads for a very
big company that sells "rosacea remedies", all over his website(s).

How much do you think they are willing to pay him, to at least remain
"ambiguous", about this cure?

How much do you think they are willing to pay him, if he just happens to try to
discredit this cure completely, at some future time?

God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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[Name Deleted] wrote:
Mr. Flemming,
I have been reading your posts concerning your experience with DMSO and
fluconazole for some time. As one with rosacea, I am alway open to new ideas and
theories concering rosacea treatments.
It's great that this one worked for you, and its great that others are
encouraged by your success.
However, just because it worked for you...does not mean it will work for others.
(statistics are how theories are "proved" in science...not an isolated case, as
in your example).

I only say this because maybe you are giving others false hope, as the cause of
their rosace may not be the same as yours (you are aware that rosacea is now
being subclassified?)

An example is myself...I have NO papules, pustules, ect...my face is just hot
and red....probably NOT the same as your case).

You should not be surprised by the skepticism that you are recieveing. It may be
prudent to tempor your judgment from saying this is a "cure" to saying this
definitely helped YOUR case....(at least until more evidence is in).

In fact...there has been NO evidence up to this point, not even from you. So you
should be able to see how others would become cynical of your advice, as you
won't even show pictures of yourself.

Again...I and many others DO  greatly appreciate your time and efforts in trying
to advance treatment options for rosacea. Keep up the good work.
Regards,
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For Everyone,
Well, as naive as it sounds, I have not given up completely on Geoffrey Nase.

That's because he's the last prominent "Internet rosacean", who is not yet
overtly trying to discredit this treatment/cure.  Until he fires a public
torpedo, "Never give up the ship!!!".
And we've got lots of ships, anyway. :-)

This message is also going to Dr. Nase's private email address, at:
drnase1000@...
drnase1000 @ hotmail.com

Your Destiny still awaits, Dr. Nase.
But you are presently missing the [DMSO + fluconazole] boat, in my opinion.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming  --- TEXT OF PERSONAL PLEA TO DR. NASE FOLLOWS -----

Dear Geoffrey,
I hate to be impatient with you, but hundreds of millions are suffering with
rosacea that can now be cured, while lies are being told about this [DMSO +
fluconazole] treatment/cure, on other group boards.

Is selling your present rosacea book really so important to you?
Why not write another book later, based on [DMSO + fluconazole]?
I would certainly cooperate with you, to accomplish that.  :-)

I know I'm being hopelessly naive, to think you would help with the full truth
here, but you appear to be the only credible, well-known rosacean remaining, who
might not betray the "Internet rosaceans" completely.

I'm sure that even God is very interested to see what you will do in this
matter.  Even a neutral statement from you at this time might serve to "clear
the air".
You were recently asked a question about [DMSO + fluconazole], on the r-s board,
as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/61378

Hopefully, you will at least dispel the obvious half-truth-lies in the two
"replies" Pre-Approved and posted there so far, if you break your silence, and
answer this question.

If possible, please also post any opinions you like, here on the "rosacea-cure"
board.  Even a neutral statement from you would be better than the methodical
attempts to discredit this cure by "others".

Thanks, in advance, for any clarity or breath of fresh air you might bring, to
this situation, in establishing this first-ever, one-and-only treatment/cure for
rosacea, [DMSO + fluconazole].
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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For Everyone,
Well, Brady Barrows (BB) has done it again. On July 20, 2004, BB ruthlessly
deleted the message (#2673) I posted on BB's "rosaceans" board, (as pasted
below), which questioned why he would want to promote "rosacea research" as if
no cure for rosacea exists.
BB has been ultra-silent, concerning his supposed "reasons" for this deletion.
I can understand why BB would not want to discuss it.

It also exposes the fact that BB has positioned himself, so that any delay in
the establishment of this cure for rosacea means that BB can receive greater
profits/"donations".
Is BB really as willing as it appears, to willingly cause delay and confusion,
for the profit he can make, and thus intentionally prolong the suffering of all
rosaceans?

You might notice that there are side-banner vertical ads for a very big company
that sells "rosacea remedies", all over BB's website(s).
How much do you think they are willing to pay BB, to at least remain
"ambiguous", about this cure?

How much do you think they are willing to pay BB, if he just happens to try to
discredit this cure completely, at some future time?

The most telling "smoking gun" to date, is David Pascoe's cooperation with BB,
by advertising BB's websites in Pre-Approved messages posted on the
"rosacea-support" board, as at:
June 22, 2004
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/60410
http://escribe.com/health/rosacea-support/m55917.html

July 12, 2004
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/60845
http://escribe.com/health/rosacea-support/m56019.html

AND MORE RECENTLY, AT:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-support/message/61381

Remember David Pascoe?  He's the owner of the "rosacea-support" group that has
banned any free/open discussion of [DMSO + fluconazole] since May 2003, while
occasionally taking pot-shots with half-truth-lies about this cure, by posting
Pre-Approved, negatively skewed messages on Pascoe's "rosacea-support" board.

The cooperation of these two birds-of-a-feather is clear proof of BB's true
opposition to the establishment of [DMSO + fluconazole] to help all rosaceans.

These folks must be so sure of themselves, (or so desperate), that they kind of
got ahead of themselves, with this blatant public cooperation.

As I have thought from the beginning, BB's "Internet rosacea empire" is just too
tempting, to allow BB an open mind in this matter, as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/219

If not for the horrendous prolongation of suffering this is causing for all
rosaceans, these men's actions would be nothing more than laughable.

They are "creatures of the Internet", but the "real world" is where the
consequenses of their actions will find them.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming -------TEXT OF DELETED MESSAGE FOLLOWS, WITH PRECEDING THREAD, (in
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From:  "Dave Fleming " <fulltruth40@y...>
Date:   Jul 20, 2004
Subject:  Re: A Question For Brady Barrows

Dave Fleming wrote:
Dear Brady,
Thank you for that list. I haven't looked at it yet, but it may be better than
before, even though you have avoided the most important point, that this med is
CURATIVE for rosacea, and is therefore in a class by itself, for that reason
alone.  Your present wording, "have you used", does not allow the rosacean to
make the statement that they would obviously want to make, if it has cured them.
Perhaps you could make another question, for cured rosaceans?
Why you have not already done this, is beyond me. :-)

I know that I should be more patient with you, about your deciding whether this
is a 100% TOTAL CURE or not, because I do know that this cure can take perhaps
six months to create the 100% cure.

But you seem to be quite reluctant to admit that this curative Rx is creating
results for you that are far better than any other "treatment/control" that you
have ever used or heard of.  Why won't you admit that, Brady Barrows?

I guess your admission would mean the immediate end of your rosacea-diet book
sales, but there is a much more tempting reason, in my opinion.

You have now created an ideal haven, in your "rosacea research institute", for
rosacea-profiteers to create "rigged research", to try to discredit [DMSO +
fluconazole] as a cure for rosacea.

This "institute" is also set up so that you can take whatever money you wish
from it, while putting it in someone else's control, thus seemingly releasing
you from any responsibility  or accountability for said "rigged research".

Once you know that [DMSO + fluconazole] is CURATIVE, as I believe you now know,
(even though you still refuse to admit it), there are three paths you could
take.
(1)  Promote this as a cure, (since no research is needed, for this), so that
all rosaceans TRY it, and are cured.

(2)  Promote research limited to proving that [DMSO + fluconazole] cures
rosacea, which would most likely not make you any money, since no research is
really needed, for all rosaceans to be cured.  Furthermore, even if BILLIONS of
dollars were spent on this research, it might NEVER reveal why or how [DMSO +
fluconazole] cures rosacea.

(3)  Ignore this cure completely, and promote "rosacea research", as if no cure
for rosacea exists.   This would put you in line to receive under-the-table
income, from very rich "rosacea-profiteers", as well as public income, as your
"salary" for your "work" with this ambiguous "rosacea research", which would of
course betray all rosaceans, by "muddying the water", and trying to discredit
this [DMSO + fluconazole] cure for rosacea.

If you choose course (3), there are certain things you would say, to go along
with this course.
(A)  You would "forget/deny" the hundreds of millions of dollars of profit made
by "rosacea profiteers" every year, and you would claim that my "suspicions"
about them are "exaggerated and unwarranted", in effect claiming that all
doctors are saints, who would never do anything to maintain their income, by
trying to discredit a cure that would seriously decrease their income, if not
end it completely.
(B)  You would pooh-pooh and down-play the good results you have had with this
cure, by continually saying, "My rosacea is still evident".  You would never
admit that the results are better than with any other "treatment/control", and
you would exacerbate and emphasize as much as possible, any negative effects
this cure might have, during the cure.
(C)  You would delay, as long as possible, any possibility of any "final
decision" on your part, that [DMSO + fluconazole] is a cure for rosacea, or is
even curative for rosacea.  This would keep you on good terms, with the
"rosacea-profiteers".
(D)  You would claim that the "word" is already out, about this cure, so that
the knockout punch you would be planning, with "rigged research" to discredit
this cure, would have the most effect, when it is "produced" by the "rosacea
research institute" you have founded.

I guess I could continue, (E) through (Z), and beyond, but I'm sure you
understand my point(s), Brady Barrows.

Which course are you taking?  :-)

For all the facts, about curing rosacea, see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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From:  "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...>
Date:  Jul 18, 2004
Subject:  Re: A Question For Brady Barrows
Brady Barrows wrote:
Dave,
I have added a database with the question,
Have you used DMSO Diflucan (fluconazole) for rosacea?
Which members can go to at the group site >
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans/
click on DATABASE in the left frame
click on the question above in the right frame
click on ADD RECORD to record an experience
As to DMSO Diflucan being a cure for rosacea, I
have now been on it for over ninty days and I can
assure you that my rosacea is not cured by any
means. My face is better today than it has been
since starting this drug combination, but I still
have rosacea which is evident on my cheeks, nose
and forehead. I have cut out coffee for eighteen
days and alcohol for thirteen days. My face is
red from sunburn which is difficult to distinguish
between the rosacea. However, I am convinced that
DMSO 10% Diflucan dries up pustules and will continue
to use it for that I imagine for a very long time. As
to curing rosacea that remains to be seen. I still have
over half a bottle of the prescription and am only
applying it every two weeks only ONCE. That is
why I feel it is important for rosaceans to report
their findings in the database to compare experiences
since this is such a pioneer effort and reading the
results of others trying this might be helpful.
Physicians have a difficult time posting to yahoo
groups for rosaceans. I seriously doubt if any
physician ever will. However, physicians may recommend
DMSO Diflcuan to their rosacea patients if enough rosaceans
demand it and get positive results. I doubt if a
physician who treats rosaceans with IPL will
have a conflict of interest in prescribing DMSO Diflucan
because the damage already done may be helped
with IPL and only rosaceans with insurance or
lots of money and really want it will get it and if
their rosacea is actually cured will continue to go
back to the physician for other purposes and
be happy to do so. I think your suspicion that
doctors and others are out to stop this 'cure'
is exaggerated and unwarranted. The 'cure' is
already out and nothing can stop it. The only
thing that may stop it is that it is not a cure, but
only another treatment to control it. If that is the
case, then it joins the long list of treatments. If
it is a cure for rosacea then there will be shouts
in all the yahoo groups (and all over the internet)
that make your shout pale into insignificance
except that in the history books you will have an
honorable mention for stumbling across it. As for
me I am still not convinced yet. I am still going to
use it till the bottle is empty at least.
Brady Barrows
group owner
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From:  Dave Fleming <fulltruth40@y...>
Date:  Jul 18, 2004
Subject:  Re: [rosaceans] Re: A Question For Brady Barrows

Dave Fleming wrote:
Dear Brady,
Thank you in advance, if you make this separate list, so that those using [DMSO
+ fluconazole] will have a place to list what they've used to CURE rosacea, not
just to treat/control it. As you know, strictly speaking, a "treatment or
control" is not a cure.

From my most recent update from Australia, one red Diflucan tablet is being sold
for $AUD 30.00, (i.e. 30 Australian Dollars). I assume that this is the
standard 150 mg Diflucan tablet. A Compounding Pharmacist there is selling 30
ml of [DMSO + 1% fluconazole] for about 100 Australian Dollars.
I think that's currently about US$78.00.

I am less clear about England, but it also appears to be the standard
fluconazole/Diflucan tablets and/or capsules that are available
over-the-counter, with absolutely no prescription needed, in the 10 British
Pounds price range, if my memory serves me.

However, the prices for fluconazole/Diflucan are much lower on the Internet, and
UK citizens seem to be getting what they need in that way, to avoid the high otc
cost of fluconazole/Diflucan in England.
A pure white powder fluconazole source is still unknown to me, except that my
USA Compounding Pharmacist, Michael Roberge, RPh, apparently has a source.

As you know, you and I have some major present "differences", until you "decide"
that [DMSO + fluconazole] is the first-ever, one-and-only cure for rosacea, as I
have posted, at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/219
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/224
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/234
Sad, but true.

I believe that the most useful thing to the "rosaceans" group, will be your
"final verdict", that [DMSO + fluconazole] cures rosacea. We all await your
"final decision", about this.

That said, it is up to each individual rosacean, (NOT to me), as to whether they
actually post in the "rosaceans" group lists, or not. After all, if all 588 of
the "members of rosaceans" are real, and not just "ghost Internet IDs", that
would be 588 out of an estimated 200,000,000 rosaceans, worldwide. That's about
1 out of every 333,000 rosaceans.

So obviously, most rosaceans are not on the Internet. :-D

But that does not mean that they are not discovering and
being cured by [DMSO + 10% fluconazole]. :-D

As I have always stated, I do not believe that unwitnessed 'cures' on the
Internet, (such as yours), are very helpful.

It is only the positive testimonies of the AUTHENTICALLY IDENTIFIED doctors who
witness these cures, that will really help anyone.
And even then, we have to watch out for the deception that MANY doctors may use,
if their income is from something like IPL.

Anyone whose income is linked to rosacea, can hardly be trusted
to be unbiased, concerning the establishment of this first-ever,
one-and-only [DMSO + fluconazole] cure for rosacea.

For all the facts about curing rosacea, see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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From:  "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...>
Date:  Jul 18, 2004
Subject:  Re: A Question For Brady Barrows

Brady Barrows wrote:
Dave,
I will do what I can to revise the list
and did not know that diflucan is an
over the counter drug in Australia or
England. In what form is it? A white
powder or a pink powder or what?
I know that DMSO is an over the counter
drug in the USA.
Can you list the names and email
addresses of the ones that have been
'cured' other than yourself? Would
these ones post here at rosaceans
about their experience? This would
be very helpful to the group.
Brady
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From:  Dave Fleming <fulltruth40@y...>
Date:  Jul 18, 2004
Subject:  A Question For Brady Barrows
Dave Fleming wrote:
Dear Brady,
I was recently looking at the "Database" section of "rosaceans".
There are lists for prescription treatments, and for non-prescription treatments
for rosacea.
However, recently, fluconazole/Diflucan became an "over the counter" item in
Australia, as it has been for a long time, in England.

Therefore, [DMSO + fluconazole/Diflucan] is now available in Australia, without
a prescription, from any Compounding Pharmacist there.
Is it possible that you could create a separate list, for those who want to
report their use of [DMSO + fluconazole], since it depends on where you live, as
to whether it is a prescription item or not.

Of course, this list should also be separate because the people reporting, like
myself, do not have rosacea any more, since they are the first people in history
ever to be cured of rosacea.

So this list would best make it clear, that this
is a treatment/CURE, and NOT just a treatment/control.
I look forward to your answer, concerning this separate list, which is necessary
for those being cured of rosacea by [DMSO + fluconazole/Diflucan].

For all the facts on curing rosacea, see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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Another rosacean has overcome the lies being put out by the
"rosacea-profiteers".
Good.  Onward and Upward.   :-D
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming

Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 20:06:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dave Fleming" <fulltruth40@...
Subject: Re: Prescription for Rosacea
To: [Name Deleted] @yahoo.com>

Hi, [Name Deleted],
Thank you for your interest.  I hope you read extensively from the
"rosacea-cure" board, at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
to familiarize yourself completely with this cure.
The first thing I think you have to do, is to stop putting "quote marks" around
the word "cure", as in:
I truly would love to have my rosacea cured.  :-D

I would just like to assure you, that although this is not a "magical",
overnight, or even "easy" cure, it is a cure.

I know it sounds strange, and this cure has many "drawbacks", but I believe it
is fairly evident that this med somehow is attacking and destroying the ROOT
CAUSE of rosacea, so I calls 'um as I sees 'um, as a cure.

As you no doubt know, this med is a mixture of (99% Pharmaceutical Grade
Dimethyl Sulfoxide) and fluconazole, and fluconazole is the generic name for the
same drug, Diflucan.

That said, I am not a doctor, so I don't know the best "directions" to give to
your doctor, unless he is familiar with a COMPOUNDING Pharmacist.  Even then, it
makes me nervous, that some CPs may have slight variations in the way they
formulate this Rx, so I highly recommend that you have your doctor phone my CP,
Michael Roberge, RPh, and ask him whatever he likes.

Better yet, if you are able to phone Michael yourself, first, and talk with him
about what you want, you can both be united in your "approach" to your doctor.

If your MD talks with Michael, your MD might even be more likely to write you
the Rx.

Here is the contact info, on Michael Roberge, R.Ph.,(i.e. Registered
Pharmacist), and Compounding Specialist:
Michael Roberge, R.Ph.
Compounded Solutions in Pharmacy LLC
Monroe, CT 06468

Phone at (203) 268-4964,
Phone toll-free at (877)-RxNeeds, which is (877) 796-3337, with a website at:
compoundedsolutions.com
e-mail address:
mike@...

For many reasons, I also highly recommend that you get at least your first
"fill" of this Rx for [FLUCONAZOLE 10% SOLUTION] shipped to you from Michael
Roberge, RPh, as well, but that's your decision, if you want a local CP to fill
it.

One person in England even took copies of some of the posts from the
"rosacea-cure" board, on her second trip to her doctor about this, to convince
him to write the Rx.  He wrote it by hand, because the official "British medical
computer" in his office refused to print out the Rx.

I know that the way I did it, even when I was trying to get an effective
NON-ORAL, (i.e. NON-TOXIC), TOPICALLY APPLIED med just for nail fungus, was that
I called the CP first, and then I was armed with the phone number of the CP,
when I saw the doctor.  And I was very determined, and very stubborn, when the
doctor tried to "switch" me to some oral med for nail fungus, with deadly
serious potential side-effects.

I insisted that he phone the CP, since he did not know about this Rx, even for
nail fungus, in Oct. 2001, even though it had been prescribed since 1998.

The doctor phoned the CP, (from another room, where I could not hear it), while
I was in the doctor's office, and he grudgingly wrote the Rx, saying, "You have
to be careful. Some people will try to sell you tiger pxss for nail fungus."  He
laughed, and I grinned, but I got my dxmned Rx, although it was like pulling
teeth, to get it.

I suppose that the CP and the MD have some sort of special "numbers" they
exchange, to prove their "credentials" even if it's just on the phone, so that
you can receive the Rx.

I hope this helps.  Please allow your doctor to witness your use of this med, so
that he can give positive testimony later, which will help all rosaceans obtain
this Rx more easily.
And please update me on your treatment/cure, if possible.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 18:41:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: [Name Deleted] @yahoo.com>
Subject: Prescription for Rosacea
To: fulltruth40@...

[Name Deleted] wrote:
Dave,

I have been a member of the Rosacean group, and have watched with interest the
varied treatments for Rosacea.  Especially since Brady Barrows started the DMSO
treatment.
Tomorrow I am going in for a visit with my MD, who is also a friend of the
family.  I am going to ask him to prescribe the DMSO for me, but I was wondering
exactly what he should write on the prescription.

Thank you very much for your assistance with this.  I truly would love to have
my rosacea "cured".

[Name Deleted]


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For Everyone,
Free translation of the "rosacea-cure" board to almost any language can be
obtained by following the following directions.
Love To All The Cosmos, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
From: Luigi <[deleted] @ [deleted] .it>
Date: Sun Jul 11, 2004
Subject: Rosacea-cure - Help Italian Boy -
Luigi wrote:
Hello, i'm Luigi an italian boy,
I don't undertstand the therapy with Flucanozole Dmso(?)
Please write me a mail an Italian with the therapy complete.
I wait your answer.
Thanks.
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Dear Luigi,
Go to:
http://world.altavista.com/
Paste this URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
Choose "English to Italian".
This shows the "rosacea-cure" Home Page in Italian.
I found three free translation URLs, as at:
http://world.altavista.com/
http://www.google.com/language_tools
http://www.freetranslation.com/
But these free translations are limited to 4,500 characters in length at most,
so you will have to "cut up" whatever "rosacea-cure" message you want to read,
and feed it into the free translation, in less than 4,500-character "pieces",
for free "machine translation".

Of course, "machine translation" can be laughably incorrect sometimes, but the
price is right.  Just make sure you understand that the "machine translations"
MIGHT be very inaccurate.

If you want to pay money for any translation, you might try:
http://www.completetranslation.com/home.htm
or
http://www.abracadabratr.com/Ingles/English.htm
or
http://www.free-translator.com/
I don't know if they're any good, but these are three paid translation sources I
found.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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Caro Luigi,
va:
http://world.altavista.com/
Incolli questo URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
Scelga il "English a Italian". Cio mostra il Home Page in italiano. Ho trovato
tre la traduzione libera URLs, come a:
http://world.altavista.com/
http://www.google.com/language_tools
http://www.freetranslation.com/

Ma queste traduzioni libere sono limitate a 4.500 caratteri di lunghezza tutt'al
piu, in modo da dovete up" del "cut; che cosa documento lo desiderate ed
inserite nella traduzione libera, in "pieces" dei piu meno di 4.500 caratteri;,
per il translation" libero di "machine;. Naturalmente, translation" di "machine;
puo essere laughably errato a volte, ma il prezzo e di destra.

Vi assicurate appena capire che il translations" di "machine; HA POTUTO essere
molto inesatto. Se desiderate pagare i soldi qualunque traduzione, potreste
provare:
http://www.completetranslation.com/home.htm
o
http://www.abracadabratr.com/Ingles/English.htm
o
http://www.free-translator.com/
I don't sa se they're qualunque merce, ma questi sono tre fonti che pagate di
traduzione ho trovato.
Dio Benedice, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming
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Ci e adesso una vera cura per il rosacea. Lo chiamo una cura, perche io il
sa/crede che questo e il solo trattamento attaccare e distrugge la CAUSA di
rosacea, piuttosto che i sintomi di trattando/controllare giusti.

Questa prescrizione cura anche molti altri tipi di malattie di pelle, come
Tineas Versicolor, (l'io.e. le "macchie di Fegato"), ed anche piu di un tipo di
non identificato "le crescite di parasitical di stealthy" il su/nella pelle.

Per il rosacea, coinvolge ripetuto una volta-un-la settimana o una volta-un-il
mese, le domande multipli attuali, come a:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/210

Questo e un miscuglio estremamente benigno attualmente applicato, chiamato (DMSO
+ il fluconazole/Diflucan). La prescrizione e chiamata [FLUCONAZOLE 1%
SOLUZIONE], ed il piu nuovo, piu forma efficace ed economica e chiamato
[FLUCONAZOLE 10% SOLUZIONE].

Questo e un economico, ($50 a $100 per di una due provvista di mese), la
medicazione di PRESCRIZIONE nell'USA. Dove e legale per fare cosi, puo essere
mescolato facilmente "alla casa" anche piu economicamente, come a:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/170

DMSO, (l'io.e. Dimethyl Sulfoxide), e un liquido che somiglia all'acqua, che e
saputo alle droghe di potentiate che sono mescolato con questo. Penetra anche la
pelle profondamente, e "trasporta" molto il fluconazole con questo.

E probabile che crea anche un alto "serbatoio" di concentrazione di fluconazole
nella pelle. Puo penetrare anche ogni cellula di pelle individuale umana, che no
ha inghiottito ORALMENTE il fluconazole/Diflucan puo fare, come a:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/192
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/193

Il Fluconazole/Diflucan e saputo per essere una droga anti-da fungo. Il
Fluconazole e il nome generico per questa droga, mentre Diflucan e il nome
commerciale di C.ia di Pfizer per il suo fluconazole.

I sintomi di rosacea piu SERIOo dovrebbero essere andati entro un mese o due, di
cominciare questa trattamento/cura, ma puo portare molti piu mesi, prima che la
100% cura e realizzata. Ci sono degli effetti minori, superflui temporanei con
questa trattamento/cura, ma ci sono nessuni effetti collaterali conosciuti da
questa prescrizione benigna attualmente applicata.

Anche, nessuno trasversale-potentiation o nessun'interferenza con qualunque
altra droga e stato riferito, poiche questa prescrizione attualmente applicata
era prima prescritta per il fungo di chiodo in 1998.

Tutti i fatti sono a:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
Il piu grande gruppo di rosacea-concentrare che non ha soppresso completamente
queste notizie, e il gruppo (rosaceans@yahoogroups.com), chiamato a:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans/

Piu di dieci altri gruppi di Internet piu piccoli concentrati sul rosacea hanno
consentito la discussione libera aperta di questa cura poiche il 2003 maggio.
Quattro gruppi, (rosacea-support@yahoogroups.com),
(rosacea-knowledge@yahoogroups.com), (theredhots@yahoogroups.com), chiamati e
{P(seborrheic-dermatitis-support@yahoogroups.com}) hanno soppresso qualunque
discussione aperta di questa cura di prescrizione legale, poiche il 2003 maggio.
Sono stato proibito da questi gruppi, poiche il 2003 maggio, e mantengono
tuttavia quest'interdizione.

La mia credenza ferma, e quell'avidita fa sopprimere molte persone le notizie di
questa trattamento/cura per il rosacea. Tentano di screditarlo anche con le
bugie e/o con la disinformazione, perche non vogliono perdere il
reddito/profitto che fanno, dal rosaceans di aiutando/trattare.

Non questo e un falso reclamo. Porta del tempo, al sito web di gruppo di
rosacea-cura, l'email a: (rosacea-cure@yahoogroups.com), di studiare e capisce
come lei puo ottenere ed usa questa trattamento/cura per il rosacea.

Non poiche questa prescrizione e fatta dei soltanto COMPORNDO FARMACISTI, e a
volte come facile di ottenere come le droghe usuali orali, con tutti gli effetti
collaterali orrendi potenziali.

Del rosaceans, l'essere curato attualmente ha applicato usando
[FLUCONAZOLE 1% SOLUZIONE] o [FLUCONAZOLE 10% SOLUZIONE], cominciano adesso a
farsi avanti, e la fiducia e estremamente alta che ogni uno del rosaceans di
200,000,000 valutato, mondiale, si sbarazzera del loro rosacea usando questa
cura nuova.

Dalla grazia di Dio, ho scoprito accidentalmente questa cura, ed era in grado di
sbarazzarsi del mio 15 + il caso di anno di rosacea, in 2002. Perche c'era cosi
molta resistenza contro me, nella forma di corrompe la disinformazione di
pratiche e deceptive gli attacchi di proibendo contro questa cura, sono stato
forzato per formare il gruppo di rosacea-cura, prendere questa parola fuori.

Per favore di studiare i messaggi elencati sulla Pagina di Casa, a:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/

E per favore tutti ha lasciato sa, quando lei vede che cio usando questa
PRESCRIZIONE si e sbarazzata del suo rosacea.
Se lei puo, per favore la rosacea-cura di giunzione adesso, in modo che tutti
vedranno l'alto numero affisso di membri sulla Pagina di Casa, e piu persone
saranno piu convinte presto, che questo e la dapprima vera cura per il rosacea.
Dio Benedice, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming

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For Everyone,
On July 7, 2004, Brady Barrows, (BB), deleted three more of my messages off of
his group's "rosaceans" board.  We can tell a lot, about his intentions and his
integrity, by the content of these deleted messages, as we could tell a lot from
the content of the prior messages deleted, as explained at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/224
and at
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/219

There is still "evidence", (as of July 17, 2004), of two of these deletions in
the message posted by Brady, at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans/message/2639

Note that BB gives his "the jury is out" speech, without answering any of the
very important questions I asked him, in the post he is answering.  He also
grossly misrepresents the 18 month figure, which was the time from my first use
of this Rx, until I first got on the Internet to "announce" this, (i.e. Nov.
2001 until April 2003).

BB knows very well, that I knew IMMEDIATELY, that this Rx was CURATIVE, and he
knows that my 100% cure was very certain to me, within 5 to 8 months, NOT 18
months.  One should ask:
WHY IS BRADY BARROWS TRYING TO DELAY, AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, HIS "FINAL VERDICT",
ABOUT [DMSO + fluconazole]???
Could it be because he can only make big money, as long as he denies that [DMSO
+ fluconazole] cures rosacea???

My posts deleted were #2633, #2637, and #2642, on the "rosaceans" board, all in
the same "Hey Brady" thread.
All three of my posts are shown in the one email pasted below, just in case BB
now deletes message #2639.

But my third message was deleted within MINUTES, of my having posted it.  It is
the first message, in what I am pasting below.  It reveals that BB had NEVER met
his doctor face to face, but only on the phone, even eighty days into his claim
that he was using [DMSO + fluconazole].

I would like to point out here, that I am not breaching any "netiquette", to
reveal the content of BB's private email to me.

On April 23, 2004, after reading Day Four of Brady's "Diary", where he tries to
alienate all rosaceans from even TRYING  this [DMSO + fluconazole] cure for
rosacea, I wrote BB a very stern email, stating that no private email between us
would be kept private, as follows:
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Date:  April 23, 2004
To:  bradybarrows@...
From: Dave Fleming - fulltruth40@...
Subject:  Curing Rosacea: Harmony Is God's Will For Us

Dave Fleming wrote:
(Parts Of Message Deleted)
..."Soon enough, this email, and anything you answer to me, will be public, if
you continue on your present tack, of allowing not one hope to anyone, that this
COULD BE the CURE for rosacea, (not just the 'TREATMENT/control').

The gloves are off, dear Brady.
I will no longer honor any request on your part, to keep any future email
between us permanently private.

I am sorry that I have to do this, but since you have advanced to this much
higher level of action, I would hope that you would understand and agree that
this is the reality of the situation."...

At the end of this April 23rd private email to BB, concerning his "tack", of
trying to alienate rosaceans from this cure, I wrote:
..."Change it, Brady. Please change it, before it is too late....
This is an emergency situation.  I will expect to hear from you. Please be
careful and thoughtful, in what you do, and say to me at this time. Please do
not take this lightly.
I am poised to act."...
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
End Of Private Email Quote
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Thereafter, BB SEEMED to lessen the intensity of his intent, to alienate as many
rosaceans as possible from this cure.  He obviously knew, that what he had
already entered in his "Diary", would not be changed, anyway, and he continued
to over-apply the med, and report exaggerated claims of negative effects of this
cure for rosacea.

He repeatedly tried to convince me to allow him to post on the "rosacea-cure"
board, without my Pre-Approving his posts, but I knew that he could not be
trusted in this matter, so I never agreed to that.

So, concerning my post #2642, which BB IMMEDIATELY deleted off the "rosaceans"
board:
It reveals the fact that BB informed me, long ago in private email, (duly
recorded), that the doctor who prescribed [DMSO + 1% fluconazole] for BB, did it
without meeting BB, but only after talking with BB on the phone.

BB had met a Compounding Pharmacist, who evidently had a good relationship with
this doctor, and when BB phoned this doctor, the doctor gave BB this [DMSO + 1%
fluconazole] Rx, without charging BB even one penny for the Rx.  BB only paid
the Compounding Pharmacist, for the Rx fill.

If that is not a bad enough betrayal of all rosaceans, eighty days later, BB had
still not ever met with his doctor.  Again, in private email to me, BB explained
that his doctor prescribed the [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] for BB, by phone.

So there will never be any credible witness, to prove that BB has even applied
this Rx to his face, during those eighty days of his "Diary".
Furthermore, the photos I have seen, in BB's "Diary", are so vague and
non-distinct, that they do not match all the statements in BB's "Diary", about
bright redness, and "incredible peeling", and photos are easy to "alter"
digitally, in any case.

Has BB betrayed all rosaceans, by not seeing his doctor, which makes it
impossible to confirm or deny any of his "claims", in the first eighty days of
his "Diary", and makes his "testimony" useless?
You decide, dear reader.  I'm sure you know what MY opinion is.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming ----TEXT OF DELETED "rosaceans" MESSAGE #2642 FOLLOWS----

Date:  July 7, 2004
To:  rosaceans@yahoogroups.com
From:  Dave Fleming - fulltruth40@...
Subject:  Re: Hey Brady

Dave Fleming wrote:
Brady,
You have made sure that there is NO "jury", by failing to see your doctor even
one time.  That makes sure that you alone are the "judge, jury, and
executioner", doesn't it, Brady?
Even though I have stressed at all times, that it is only the positive testimony
of doctors who witness this cure that will convince anyone, you have never
allowed your doctor to observe any part of your cure.
I wonder why....  :-)

No matter what your "explanation" might be,  time will tell, about your true
intentions in this matter, Brady.
Of course, there is a huge income available, for anyone who would cater to
"rosacea-profiteers" who will pay anything, in order to muddy the water, and try
to discredit this cure.  I notice that you require $12,000.00 as your salary,
at:
http://irosacea.org/html/founder2.html

As an "expert" on this cure, you no doubt could also receive many times that
salary, as a "member" of the "Think Tank" you propose.  Hmmmmmm.
Time will tell, time will tell.

And one thing is certain.
The longer you delay, in "delivering the final verdict" on [DMSO + fluconazole],
the more money you will make.  But you are an honorable man, so I'm sure you
won't delay much longer.

For all the facts on curing rosacea, see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming

From:  "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...>
Date:  Wed Jul 7, 2004  8:23 am
Subject:  Re: Hey Brady
Dave,
The jury is still out. I am not
convinced but I am impressed
with DMSO 10 % Diflucan. It
may prove to be effective in
eliminating rosacea. If it does
I will announce it all over my
site. But for now the jury is
still out. Eighteen months is
a long time for a jury to
deliberate, but hey, I am in
this for the long haul. I will
post the updated diary
tomorrow on the eightieth
day of the diary.
Brady

--- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, Dave Fleming <fulltruth40@y...> wrote:
> Yes, Brady,
> Hmmmm, it sounds like you've avoided answering my claim that this med
> has done more to improve your rosacea than any
> other "treatment/control" you've ever tried. I can understand that,
> since I was unable to "commit" to knowing this was a TOTAL cure for
> at least five to eight months. But I knew within the seventy-two
> days that you've used this med, that it was revolutionarily
> curative. I can't understand why you are refusing to be more
> positive about the massive improvements you've talked about in your
> Diary.
> I didn't even have the benefit of other rosaceans' positive
> experiences with this med, as you have for over a year.
>
> You have admitted in your Diary that the "pinkness/redness" you now
> see may NOT be rosacea, but rather your immune system's effective
> action to remove the rosaceous skin that the [DMSO + fluconazole] has
> affected/killed , but you have gone back to calling it "rosacea" in
> this post. Why would you do that, Brady?
>
> When you say, "My rosacea is still evident", you know very well that
> it ain't even near the "My rosacea" you had on April 19, 2004, when
> you started using [DMSO + fluconazole]. In fact, I estimate by your
> statements in your Diary, that your "My rosacea" is about 80% or 90%
> GONE.
>
> Of course, you will get a LOT of "support" from ALL the "rosacea-
> profiteers", just as long as you give them any hope that you will
> denounce or discredit this cure in the end. You are showing some
> real integrity, to stay with this cure at this time, but I still
> wonder what you will do, in the final analysis.
>
> BTW, "Larry" has stated that there may be more than one "solution" to
> rosacea. It is clear that one way that "rosacea-profiteers" will try
> to discredit [DMSO + fluconazole] as a cure for rosacea, is to make
> all sorts of claims for OTHER "solutions/cures", with the purpose
> of "muddying the water".
>
> I'm sure that there will be unbelievable amounts of money offered to
> your "tax free rosacea research corp." at (irosacea.org), if you'll
> just discredit this cure, in the end. They will no doubt want to pay
> for any sort of "rigged rosacea research", to try to stop this cure
> from being established. And there is no doubt that you could become
> a rich man by encouraging these "rosacea-profiteers".
>
> I pray that you do not cave in to that pressure, but only time will
> tell. It would be such a betrayal of all rosaceans, that I cannot
> imagine that an honorable man like you would do it. But only time
> will tell.
>
> BTW, einstein_hairdo managed to mention how cheap this med is, (i.e.
> the price), and how little of it they used, and how comfortable it is
> applying the med only once a week, and how they got rid of redness in
> the cheeks, all in one short message they left on the "rosaceans"
> board, as at:
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosaceans/message/2340
>
> Why haven't you ever covered these very important POSITIVE facts, in
> your Diary? You've never mentioned once IN your Diary, that this
> cure can be much more "comfortable", if rosaceans do not apply the
> med as often as you have. You only mention this in a short,
> confusing blurb BEFORE your Diary.
>
> Why is this never explained repeatedly and plainly, IN the daily
> Diary, where it belongs? I think you owe all rosaceans a big apology
> for failing to explain this IN THE DAILY DIARY, where it belongs. I
> hope you begin to include it repeatedly, to make up for the seventy
> two days you've refused to do so.
>
> But you're an honorable man, Brady, so I'm sure you'll clear this up,
> (no pun intended), by now beginning to let rosaceans know some more
> of the POSITIVE facts about this cure, IN the daily Diary, rather
> than emphasizing the negative.
>
> Also, I was surprised to see that the photos in your Diary are not
> showing all the "bright redness", and "incredible peeling" of your
> words. Wuhzup wit dat? :-)
> You look so happy in your photos, that I'm convinced that you know
> you're being cured, but you're just not letting us in on it, just
> yet, for some unknown reason(s).
> All the facts about curing rosacea are at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
> God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
> Dave Fleming
>
> --- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "Brady Barrows" <bradybarrows@h...>
> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > I will admit that the DMSO 10% Diflucan
> > is much better than the 1% and that it
> > indeed does dry up pustules like magic.
> >
> > However, my rosacea is still evident and
> > I have to wait longer periods between
> > applications since the skin peeling is
> > incredible with the 10%. I am beginning
> > to believe you that I have to wait 28
> > days between applications. However, I
> > am still breaking out with pustules and I
> > am using the DMSO 10% on just the
> > pustules which are only a few. I really
> > like how it works on pustules. I wonder
> > how it works?
> >
> > I will update the diary (which is a free
> > download by the way) about once every
> > week or ten days. I am writing it but
> > the hassel of converting to a pdf and
> > uploading to the server is tedious and
> > I haven't had much feedback anyway
> > so I don't think it really matters how
> > often I update it.
> >
> > Brady
> >
> > --- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, Dave Fleming <fulltruth40@y...>
> wrote:
> > > Wow! I'm dying to hear what Brady says to "Larry", who seems
> unable
> > > to comprehend that the first-ever, one-and-only cure for rosacea
> has
> > > been discovered, and it's [DMSO + fluconazole]!
> > >
> > > Brady has stated that just about all his pustules
> have "disappeared",
> > > within less than two months of [DMSO + fluconazole} use.
> Although he
> > > has not used the word "cure", he has used the words "healing
> > > prescription" a lot, and if my memory serves me, he has stated
> > > plainly more than once, that this med "knocks the socks off of
> > > whatever is causing rosacea".
> > > Larry, are you reading some OTHER Diary??? You better read
> Brady's
> > > again, since my read says that Brady has had better results with
> this
> > > cure, than he has with any other "treatment/control".
> > > Your claims for demodex causing rosacea are comical at best,
> Larry.
> > > Why don't you give it a rest? :-)
> > > All the facts about curing rosacea are at:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/
> > > God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
> > > Dave Fleming
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In rosaceans@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <lcm@n...> wrote:
> > > > Brady:
> > > >
> > > > I just wanted to say that you should not feel bad about wanting
> to
> > > > recoup some of your costs by selling your diary. Everyone
> should
> > > > know that you have contributed time, expertise and money way
> more
> > > > than you have ever received from this dreaded disease. You
> have
> > > made
> > > > it possible for everyone involved to communicate and find some
> real
> > > > answers to our dilema. I read your diary and it dosent sound
> like
> > > > that med did the job for you. I know that you are very aware
> of
> > > what
> > > > some of us are doing and talking about on this site so Im
> > > curious ...
> > > > Are you going to try Demodexsolutions? I have tried to remain
> > > > objective here and not to jump the gun and scream "cure" but if
> > > > anyone deserves to be cured its you and after one month of
> > > treatment,
> > > > I would highly recommend that you give these meds a shot.
> > > >
> > > > larry


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For Everyone,
Has everyone heard of the "tell a friend"  doubling factor?  It's very simple.

If one rosacean starts out on day one, and tells one other rosacean, about this
[DMSO + fluconazole] cure, and then those two tell two more, on day two, etc,
etc, etc,  by day 32, all of the estimated 14,000,000 rosaceans in the USA will
have heard about this cure.

Of course, it works better "on paper", than in real life, but it's a good goal
to have, in a situation where the world is full of FALSE rosacea cures, and one
true cure appears, and the "rosacea-profiteers" are working every single day, to
try to stop or delay this cure from being established.

I put (rosacea cure) into a Google Search today, and the second on the list, out
of 42,800 "hits", was:
http://www.esfbchannel.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Rosacea&action=display&num\
=1088833008

The mystery of how "Google rankings" are determined, still amazes me.  This
appears to be a simple "talk forum thread", about "rosacea-cure".

As it turns out, someone I recently have been in touch with, is posting
positively there, about [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].
This person has previously mentioned having seriously considering suicide, in
one of their prior posts there, so I am praying that they find a way to obtain
[DMSO + 10% fluconazole].

Rosacea-cure members might want to follow the "thread" there, or even join in.
The more, the merrier.   :-D
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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For Everyone,
Here is a private email sent to me recently, and my reply.
As more and more rosaceans are trying [DMSO + fluconazole], my confidence is
higher than ever, that [DMSO + fluconazole] will cure 100% of all rosacea.  But
what if it only cures 99% of all rosacea?

A couple of people have claimed that they did not get rid of "redness/pinkness"
the way they "wanted to".  But my attitude, is that they were either not telling
the truth, or they need to use the [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], rather than the
[DMSO + 1% fluconazole].  Also, I believe they were not patient and persistent
enough, in using this treatment/cure.

But I am presenting some of these "negative ideas" here, just to be completely
honest.  Of course, the bottom line, is that no rosacean has anything to lose,
by at least TRYING this [DMSO + 10% fluconazole] cure, because it is so benign,
and is also very inexpensive, unlike so many "treatments" that may have let them
down before.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming----TEXT OF EMAILS FOLLOWS----

Hi, (name deleted),
You have to study some, on the rosacea-cure board.  First, the "Summarized
Directions" will answer most of your questions, (without really answering them,
since each case is individual), as at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/210
Also, you really should read all the material at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/204
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/205
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/207

Following are my "definitive opinions" concerning the answers to your questions:

Q1. if i use the 10% solution, how many times should i apply it per day? or per
applying session, if you will.
A1.  You have to decide this, depending on what you observe during the first
week, after you apply the med one light time.  If you do not have to care about
how you look, you can apply the med more.  Since almost everyone cares, about
how they look, they have to space the applications out, so as to minimize the
effects of temporary redness/pinkness, and peeling skin that this treatment/cure
involves.
The face cream I recommend and some "concealer" makeup are also NECESSARY.

BTW, this temporary redness/pinkness and peeling skin are NOT "side effects", as
Brady Barrows is misnaming them; they are "temporary effects", of this
treatment/cure, which are integrally linked to the curing of rosacea.

In my opinion, this treatment/cure has NO "side-effects", in the sense that most
of us understand "side effects", as bad effects that are unrelated to the
desired effects of the med.

Q2. how long will my skin appear irritated after 1 application?
A2.  If you do not have rosacea, your skin will be virtually unaffected.  If
there is rosaceous skin, ONLY that skin might be affected for as long as a
couple of months, but would "normally" calm down substantially, after two weeks
or less.  How much less of a time period?  I do not know.

With mild rosacea, the "reaction" may hardly be noticeable, with just one
application of the med.  Each rosacean will have to judge this for them self, as
I state in my "Summarized Directions", in rosacea-cure message #210.

Q3. my skin will peel off my face, am i understanding correctly?
A3.  It is difficult to describe this peeling skin, because it does not peel in
one piece, as we normally think of peeling.  It is still very "attached" to the
"live skin", and it appears as very small "pieces", on the order of one or two
millimeters in size.
So the peeling skin is there, but should NOT be aggressively peeled off.

The face cream I recommend in the "Summarized Directions", (in r-c message
#210), is important, to "blend in" this peeling skin during the day, so that it
is not noticeable.  I wish I did not have to "advertise" this face cream, but it
is quite new and quite unique, (with the ingredients on the cutting edge of what
Dr. Perricone is teaching), and it works to "blend in the peeling skin" in a way
that I believe no other face cream can do; and it is relatively cheap.  The DMAE
in this face cream also works against the temporary almost invisible wrinkles
that this treatment/cure can cause.

Q4. would using this stuff on my face every day speed up the effects?
A4.  I do not believe that this treatment/cure can be "speeded up" much, by
applying the med more often.  I say this, because I believe that a long period
of "effective immune system action" plus new healthy skin growth follow each
application of the med, and NOTHING can speed up that process, to my knowledge. 
Our skin normally "replaces itself" about every 28 days, as is stated at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/14

In my opinion, the growth of new, healthy skin is involved, after every
application of [DMSO + fluconazole].  I could sometimes feel this, as what I
call a "healing itch", which is similar to the "good itch" that sometimes takes
place under a scab that is healing, after we have cut or otherwise damaged our
skin, and it is healing.

Q5. lastly, how soon should i expect my redness to go away, after applying this
for the first time?
A5.  "Redness/pinkness" is a difficult subject to adequately discuss, because so
much of it is subjective, and difficult or impossible to define accurately. Dr.
M. Lazoff defines SOME of this very well, at:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-knowledge/message/2610

As I have stated, I did not consider myself 100% cured, for five to eight
months, after I started this treatment/cure.  Also, one would do well to
consider applying this med even a year later, to see if there is any "reaction",
which would mean that the "rosacea causing entity" has returned, even though no
rosacea symptoms are present.

Also, I have always said that this treatment/cure does not remove the damage
already done by the disease, so I still have a couple of minor purple veins on
the left side of my nose.  I therefore have to admit, that "redness/pinkness"
MAY be the last thing to go, for some people.

Also, theoretically, it is not impossible that some "redness/pinkness" might
remain on healthy skin, (as damage done, such as the color of a scar), after you
are cured of rosacea.  I do not know this, one way or the other, since I did not
have this problem.

The positive claim I would make, is that it is possible to find medical
procedures to get rid of "redness/pinkness", once the skin is healthy and cured
of rosacea.  But medical procedures to get rid of "redness/pinkness", without
first curing the rosacea with [DMSO + fluconazole], are doomed to failure, in my
opinion.  In fact, these medical procedures have sometimes proven to be quite
counterproductive in the long run, when they are done on rosaceous skin.
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When answering questions such as yours, I tend to give the worst scenario
possible.  Then, when it turns out to be better, you will be happy.  So I could
have been a lot more "positive" in my answers, without being deceptive.

I have tried to put in the worst "possibilities" that have come to me through
the Internet, by two persons who may have just been "rosacea-profiteer-trolls",
lying to me about this med not always getting rid of "redness/pinkness", the way
they "want".

Also, there was one case where the person had good improvement in redness, but
it would "return" a short time after he applied this med.  After over six months
of using [DMSO + 1% fluconazole], he decided that his diagnosis with SD
explained that, but he was still happy with the improvement that [DMSO +
fluconazole] had brought in his overall symptoms.

In our last email, in May 2004, we were discussing the possibility that mixing
DMSO with drugs that he considered good for Seborrheic Dermatitis, such as 
Ketoconazole, Terbinafine, or Itraconazole, might help his SD more than the
[DMSO + fluconazole] had.
Since he lives outside the USA, where it is easier for him to get whatever Rx he
wants, I am looking forward to hearing from him, if he tries any of these
different formulations, specifically trying to cure SD completely.

So, I hope I have answered your questions to your satisfaction, and I want to
encourage you to at least TRY [DMSO + 10% fluconazole].
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming



From :  (name deleted)
Sent :  Tuesday, July 6, 2004
To :  <fulltruth40@...>
Subject :  some questions

im sure you get these alot, but im really at a desperate time in my life and i'd
appreciate some answers before another devastating letdown.

i am convinced that you are 100% correct, and i am a strong believer that this
is fungal. i just have some questions about it's effectiveness.

my skin quality on my face is not as rough as some other rosaceans out there,
but it is extremely red on the cheeks. the redder i am, the less self esteem i
have. so:
1. if i use the 10% solution, how many times should i apply it per day? or per
applying session, if you will.
2. how long will my skin appear irritated after 1 application?
3. my skin will peel off my face, am i understanding correctly?
4. would using this stuff on my face every day speed up the effects?
5. lastly, how soon should i expect my redness to go away, after applying this
for the first time?

thank you very much, you will have saved my life if this stuff comes through.


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Does anyone know of any MD in the Los Angeles, California area, who has
prescribed [DMSO + fluconazole] for rosacea?
If possible, please send the contact info to me at:
fulltruth40@...
fulltruth40 @ hotmail.com
Thanks.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


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Hi, glarz21,
There is NO perceptable odor associated with the use of less than one (1)
milliliter of [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], which is the normal amount used in one
application on the face.

The odor mentioned in the literature on DMSO refers to the odor produced inside
the lungs when perhaps 5 to 15 milliliters, (or more), of plain DMSO is applied
topically or swallowed orally.  It is caused by the metabolism of the DMSO, and
is harmless, other than its annoyance factor, having a "garlic-like" smell. 
There is NEVER any "body odor" associated with DMSO use.

The "foul stench" stories are gross exaggerations, perhaps having a grain of
truth in ONE CASE, where a huge amount of DMSO was swallowed, and then the
person was taken to the very closed, confined quarters of an "Emergency Room" at
a hospital.
From all my experience and knowledge, your breath will smell worse if you eat a
meal with garlic, than when you apply a normal amount of [DMSO + 10%
fluconazole], during this treatment/cure of rosacea.

I have used as much as 3 to 4 milliliters of [DMSO + 1% fluconazole], applied
over a four hour time span, with zero odor.  It is impossible to apply very much
of this med at once, because it is the consistency of water, and runs off. 
Multiple applications take time, because it takes from ten to thirty minutes for
each application to be absorbed completely.

I believe that applying 5 milliliters, all at one time, (which is impossible,
unless you are treating huge areas other than your face), MIGHT cause you some
slight "sour smell" to your breath, although I've never been able to confirm
even that.

To find a doctor to prescribe [DMSO + 10% fluconazole], you might do well to
first find the Compounding Pharmacists closest to you, through the URL:
http://www.iacprx.org/referral_service/index.html

Then ask the CPs what doctors write ANY type of compounded prescriptions, and
which doctors they might recommend to you, concerning your request for this Rx.

Then try to contact the doctors, to see which one will help you with this Rx.
I hope this helps.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


From: glarz21
Date: July 1, 2004

[Editor's Note: name changed]

glarz21 wrote:
I have been sitting by silently, getting emails and trying to soak
up everything I read so I can learn how to "cure" my rosacea.  I was
told I was lucky (by my derm) because I only have a mild case.  I
have no pustules, just this horrible redness on my cheeks, nose and
chin.

The redness on my nose and the swelling,stinging and
throbbing that goes with it has been getting worse over the last
month and its driving me crazy.

I am going to find someone to write me an RX for the DMSO and fluconazole
solution if its the last thing I do.

I have been reading up on DMSO and I am stunned that everyone
is not using this "solvent".  The list of ailments that have been
successfully treated are amazing!

Anyway, I do have a very important question for the lucky people who have been
or are using the wonder drug. How bad is the body smell and the mouth odor?  I
am an RN and belive me, if I come to work emitting foul odors, it will not be
taken lightly.

From my understanding if you use less than 5 ml's-you should not
have an odor problem.  I would be willing to apply less and for-go a
longer treatment if it decreases the awful stench I heard about. Any
info regarding this would be appreciated.


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Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, powermanoz,
Yes, this treatment/cure DOES INDEED "work". :-)

As strange as it may sound, I edited info out, about where in Australia this
particular "Chemist" is, who has helped Adulla, by supplying [DMSO + 1%
fluconazole] to her, without any prescription required.

That's because I do not want to give the "godless-rosacea-profiteers" any
opportunity to interfere with Adulla's ability to continue to buy this med
without a Rx.

Since I do not know the law in Australia, I simply do not know whether this is a
"gray area", whereby individual rosaceans might more easily obtain [DMSO +
fluconazole] without a prescription, WITHOUT the "attention" of the very
"rosacea-profiteers" who want to stop the establishment of this cure for
rosacea.

But we would appreciate it if you would seek out your local Australian
"Chemists", and by all means give this treatment/cure a try yourself.

Then, let us know, that you have also succeeded in obtaining this benign, simple
[DMSO + fluconazole] mixture, without having to convince any profit-motivated
doctor to prescribe [DMSO + fluconazole] that will most likely cause that doctor
to lose a lot of income from cured rosaceans.

Please let us know how you do, in seeking out Australian "Chemists" that will
supply [DMSO + fluconazole] legally, without the need for any Rx from any
doctor.

Concerning Brady Barrows' trying to sell his Diary, of his treatment/cure with
[DMSO + fluconazole], it just indicates that he is much more concerned about
making profit from this situation, than with actually helping rosaceans to
discover this cure.

Brady Barrows has already done a lot to try to alienate rosaceans from this
cure, by over-applying the med, and then exaggerating the UNNECESSARY negative
effects of this cure in his Diary.

His new "research project", allowing "anonymous donors", is an open invitation
to all "rosacea-profiteers", to produce bogus "Clinical Studies" which would be
designed to try to discredit this [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure, or to try
to "muddy the water" in any way(s) possible.  Brady Barrows is asking for an
income of $12,000.00 per year, for his "work/job", in this organization he has
created.

I truly pity Brady Barrows, concerning this matter.  He does not seem to
understand that he is playing with fire, riding on the back of a tiger, and
inviting great evil into his life, by his attempting to "sit on the fence",
concerning this cure.

If he ever "sees the light", and decides to sincerely help rosaceans to discover
this cure, then he may do a lot of good.

Otherwise, the "cha-ching" of the cash register will be his god, and that god is
merciless, dark, and void of any righteousness.
God Bless, ITN & IDFN,
Dave Fleming


powermanoz wrote:
Hello Brady and Adulla,

Can i get details on that compounding pharmacy like Phone. and
address? and Dave, looks your good friend Brady is going cha-ching
with your idea. Hes now charging to see his diary and considering a
paperback book. Wow looks like your treatment works :-)



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wrote:
> For Everyone,
> One rosacean has sent me the news that the law in Australia allows
Compounding Pharmacists, (i.e. "chemists"), there to supply [DMSO +
1% fluconazole], WITHOUT ANY PRESCRIPTION BEING REQUIRED FROM ANY
DOCTOR!
>
> I certainly am surprised at this, and I hope it is also true for
[DMSO + 10% fluconazole].  I also hope it is true for all of
Australia, and not just for the city where this rosacean resides.
> I encourage all Australians who read this, to check with their
local pharmacist and/or Compounding Pharmacist, (or "chemist"), to
confirm or deny this situation.  Please then send this information to:
> rosacea-cure@yahoogroups.com
>
> If I receive any further corroborative info on this, I'll certainly
let everyone know, on the rosacea-cure board.
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