For Everyone,
Ooops! The "REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER", of the preceeding post,
(i.e. rosacea-cure message #206), was NOT REVERSED.
Sorry about that. I was pleasantly sleep deprived at 4 AM, and very excited,
when I goofed.
I'm still excited, but hopefully, the read on this post will not confuse.
This is the same identical post as message #206, but the order of the four
emails has been reversed, to be in "REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER".
God Bless,
Dave Fleming
For Everyone,
Here are some emails I exchanged with "Racey". "Racey" is not her real name,
and I have removed other indications of identity.
Racey is a very special case. She actually made some
"Home Brewed" (DMSO + fluconazole) in her bathroom,
and gave herself her first treatment.
At my urging, she then decided to ask her doctor for the prescription for
(FLUCONAZOLE 10% SOLUTION), and her extraordinary doctor immediately wrote her
the Rx, for her rosacea.
Racey and I are both hopeful, that this treatment/cure for rosacea will help
her, even though her overall symptoms are far more extensive than the usual
rosacea.
She is just getting started. I deeply admire Racey's "spunk", and I pray that
she has a complete success with this (DMSO + fluconazole) treatment/cure.
Particularly exciting in Racey's case, is that her doctor seems to be especially
capable and savvy,
and this is the first situation ever, where
ORALLY ADMINISTERED (DMSO + fluconazole) might be combined with the
TOPICALLY APPLIED (DMSO + fluconazole), to possibly speed up this
treatment/cure, and also make it less of a hassle.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming ----TEXT OF EMAILS FOLLOWS IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER----
Apr. 20, 2004
Dave Fleming wrote:
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Hi, Racey,
Thank you for the trust. I will soon be posting some of our email at
rosacea-cure. Do not worry. I have removed all ID info, and changed your name,
etc.
You actually inspired me to do this. Rather than send some of these emails only
to you, I decided to post them, for everyone, as an exception to my usual rule,
to wait until the doctor's testimony is positive.
Concerning your condition, someone "pushed" Dr. G. Nase, Ph.D., (not an MD),
once, to state clearly, where on the body "rosacea" can occur.
Nase gave the strangest answer you might imagine.
He said, (and I paraphrase),
"Rosacea only occurs above the nipple line."
Honest to God, that's what he said, and he's the only "authority" on rosacea, in
the Yahoo! rosacea Groups, that I know of at present.
Well!
I don't know what to think.
I think that most any rosacean, (with only their own experience), would doubt
that your body-wide condition is ONLY rosacea. But who knows? Since I am
claiming that rosacea is probably caused by a stealthy, parasitical fungal
growth, I am not the one to doubt you.
However, the "rosacea" that I am "familiar" with, seems extremely "localized",
taking a decade to grow even two inches, in the skin.
One thing is certain. You, (and God help us, Racey, let it be with the full
advice and consent of your doctor !!!), are in a unique position, to try
ORALLY ADMINISTERED [FLUCONAZOLE 10% SOLUTION].
I am NOT recommending that you do this on your own.
I am only asking that you read what I will post on the rosacea-cure board soon,
(i.e. emails from rosaceans being cured), and put it to your doctor's attention.
Then, see if your doctor would recommend some cautious "trials".
There are actually two frontiers, where you could serve as
a "little white lab mouse".
(1) Is it possible, that ORALLY ADMINISTERED plain Diflucan/fluconazole, given
at the same time as TOPICALLY APPLIED [DMSO + Diflucan/fluconazole], would
enhance or strengthen the use of the TOPICAL, made with DMSO?
I do NOT recommend this one, because I am highly suspicious of the possible side
effects of ORALLY ADMINISTERED plain Diflucan/fluconazole, which you are already
taking daily.
The second one is more my cup of tea, which I WOULD recommend, (ONLY with your
doctor's advice and consent !!!). It would involve that you would STOP taking
the ORAL plain Diflucan, and Nistatin, (i.e. also called Nystatin ?).
(2) Is it possible, that
ORALLY ADMINISTERED [DMSO + 10% Diflucan/fluconazole] would enhance or
strengthen the use of the
TOPICALLY APPLIED [DMSO + 10% Diflucan/fluconazole], also known as
[FLUCONAZOLE 10% SOLUTION], AND USED AT THE SAME TIME, TOGETHER?
The ORALLY ADMINISTERED minimum treatment, might be only a maximum of 1.5 ML,
(i.e. one point five ML), of [FLUCONAZOLE 10% SOLUTION], that would be "swished"
for a long time inside the mouth,
(to treat the inside of the cheeks),
and then either swallowed, or spit out.
The dosages would have to be worked out with your doctor, and you might get
sick from trying this, [i.e. number (2), above].
But you might not get sick at all.
It might speed up the process of getting rid of the rosacea, and make this
TOPICAL [DMSO + fluconazole] treatment/cure less painful, for you, and for all
other rosaceans, in the future.
BTW, how much is the [DMSO + 10% Diflucan/fluconazole] costing you? How many MLs
are you getting?
Most importantly, are you absolutely SURE, that your Compounding Pharmacist has
CHECKED with Michael Roberge, R.Ph., to be sure the formula for the 10% med is
the same as the one I have? Michael's website is at:
<compoundedsolutions.com>
Your family doctor seems to me, to be incredibly unique and savvy, in his
recognition of what most doctors are claiming is a "crackpot idea", concerning
body-wide fungal, (i.e. candida?), infestation theories.
From my viewpoint, your doctor has absolutely proven himself to me, by his
immediate prescribing of the [DMSO + 10% Diflucan/fluconazole] for you.
Whatever you do, Racey, no matter how you treat your "condition",
for God's sake KEEP A JOURNAL (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
You could turn out to be instrumental in speeding up, (by decades!), curing ALL
rosaceans, (that's 200,000,000) (!) There is perhaps not one source of totally
non-biased funding, to run Clinical Trials with [DMSO + Diflucan/fluconazole].
Doctors in the USA ALL have the authority to do what your doctor has done, but
they're WIMPS!, (or worse), (in my humble opinion), and they might depend on a
case such as yours, to show enough success to convince them to help their own
patients, with [DMSO + Diflucan/fluconazole],
BOTH TOPICALLY APPLIED, and, with your possible results,
also ORALLY ADMINISTERED AT THE SAME TIME.
Well, I'm pleasantly exhausted!
Frankly, I have sometimes wondered, if you were being completely honest with me,
but now I begin to think that you just might be sent by God.
Too dramatic? OK. Well, you and your doctor seem to be absolutely correctly
positioned, to bring some most important results that will positively affect the
lives of hundreds of millions of suffering human beings.
Still sound too dramatic? Well, that sure is the way it appears to me, however
it sounds.... This email, (below), you've just sent me is blowing me away....
You ask me whether I think you will be cured by using this med.
I have only one important "axiom", that guides me.
If [DMSO + Diflucan/fluconazole]
stings or "burns", or
"reacts by changing the skin visually", when it is applied topically,
THEN IT IS NEEDED,
and a very slow healing process will follow it's use, even though it may have to
be applied many times, with waiting periods after each application, to allow the
skin to regenerate anew, the healthy skin we all deserve to have.
I believe that is true, like I believe that the sun will rise tomorrow.
Thank you Racey. Please stay in touch.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming
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From : Racey
Sent : Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:01 PM
To : fulltruth40@...
Subject : RE:rosacea Cure
Racey wrote:
Hi there Dave! I'm not sure why my previous message didn't show up when you hit
reply to me...hopefully it doesn't happen again.
Before I tell you who my doc is I want to tell you that my symptoms are not only
on my face.
They started out on the bridge of my nose before I ever noticed.
It was just reddish-pink there and progressively became more noticeable.
After being diagnosed w/ rosacea (w/ little broken blood vessels) I began
flipping thru past photos to see when it began. It began atleast 10 yrs ago.
What made me think I could have rosacea was it spread after one visit to a tan
spa to my whole face and 2 derms confirmed it was. My face even got swollen and
at first I thought I just overdid the tan session but the days to follow told me
something was really wrong with me.
I had a low grade fever and whatever was harming my face began to spread to my
neck, shoulders, down my arms all the way to my feet. (Even my scalp hurts)
Although no one visibly can see the sensitivity in my skin it is sooo there!
Also I've got the eye problems, my face and my body is now sensitive to heat and
I have burning & flushing.
I was put on antibiotics by a derm and had one IPL treatment also which was
very helpful in my extremely sensitive skin (so sensitive that it hurt when my
kids hugged me...very humbling for me since I love to hug them).
I quit the antibiotics after visiting my family doc who thinks my problem could
be a systemic fungi problem. I begged him for diflucan and do have a one
month supply of it.
I take 100 mg's a day and I take nistatin powder about 3 X a day.
My doc seems to be one of the few who believe that mold/fungi cause lots of
problems for people.
My doc is (name deleted) in (location deleted). The compounding pharmacy he
chose to send my script to is (name deleted) in (location deleted).
They said the 10% is in the mail so if I have positive results from my
DMSO-Fluconazole I will definitely let my doc know.
Today in the store I saw a poor lady with rosacea (I assume) and I thought to
myself "wow if what Dave says is true she could get rid of that!"
Right now I have put a lot of hope in it helping me. I have tried so much.....I
really hope God has helped you and wants to use your faithfulness in getting the
word out.
Dave, after all those symptoms I told you about...
do you still think I will be cured?
Just your opinion I know.
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Apr. 19, 2004
Dave Fleming wrote:
----MESSAGE EDITED----
Hi, Racey,
It's good to hear from you, and I'm hoping that you will feel even better, as
time goes on. This cure is indeed a hassle, and there is not anything I can do
about that.
I wonder if you're willing to share the ID info of your doctor and/or your
Compounding Pharmacist with me.
This is one standard that sort of helps me trust you more, on the internet.
Obviously, your doctor and CP could not discuss you, even if I contacted them,
so it is not my goal, to contact them. At this point, I just check, by mail,
email, and by phone, to make sure they "exist".
I might call your CP, to find out if he's in contact with Michael Roberge,
R.Ph., about the formula of the (DMSO + fluconazole).
It helps, with our relationship, if you give me this info, but it is not
necessary, for you to do so.
You ask why I am doing this. Well, if you were put into a position, whereby you
were the only one on Earth, that knew how to cure all rosacea, what would you
do?
Most likely, the same thing I'm doing. In my case, I believe in a specific
"Holy Pledge", whereby I pledge before God, to "share/create blessings" within
my community, among other things.
I never imagined that this might involve a worldwide "community", however.
It is tremendously satisfying to me, that all that very human suffering will be
ended, because of this gift from God cure for rosacea.
And how could I just walk away, when it is so clear that God would want me to
pass on this blessing, to all of the people suffering with this disease, and
even sometimes committing suicides?
I feel honored, actually, to do this, and it is a very humbling experience,
because I am so inadequate to this task.
Also, once I got into this, it occured to me that I might need this med again,
in the coming years, to cure rosacea again. By doing this work, and
establishing this cure, I will no longer have to have nail fungus, (which isn't
that easy to "catch"), to get a Rx in the future for (DMSO + fluconazole) to
cure rosacea.
I must tell you, that it is well worth waiting for the 10% med, if you can get
it prescribed.
But the 1% med is very good, and after using that, your doctor might be more
inclined to prescribe the 10% med.
In a separate email, I will try to find a recent message to someone else trying
this cure, and make an exception just this once, by sending you a copy. I think
I recently sent something, about this 10% med.
BTW, the delay with your CP may be caused by something as simple as their not
having the right kind of fluconazole, to make this med. The fact that they
haven't refused, hopefully means that you will get what you want, in the end.
People don't seem to always understand, that the patient is the real person in
charge, especially if insurance is not paying. You can always go to another
doctor and/or CP, if yours do not help you. That's why I believe one should
DEMAND this Rx for rosacea, so that they know they will lose income from you,
perhaps permanently, if they do not help you.
Concerning your request for private emails from others trying this cure, it's
not easy, to share others' experiences. For one thing, the volume, if I put all
of some person's emails together, is huge, (i.e. over 100 kb).
But the real reason, is that each person's experience is so individual, and I
don't even know if what I am being told is true, so it is not productive, in my
opinion, to arbitrarily "share" this info with anyone.
Also, anyone who is trying to find fault with this cure, would of course want to
get private info, to try to find ways to accuse me. You are not the first
person, who has made this request.
Also, the persons involved have not given me permission to share their email in
that way, even if I delete their name.
To give an example, what if I had sent one of your emails to another person just
starting this treatment/cure? You were crying, and just feeling awful, at one
point, and because it was in an earlier email, they might not even realize, that
you had used some DMSO and Diflucan you "mixed up" at home, illegally. Would I
really want to send them that confusing email from you?
But just about every case is like that, with all sorts of ups and downs, and
possibly confusing material, to someone just "sharing" this email.
My "plan" is simple.
(1) Wait for the doctor to have a positive opinion, that this was indeed a cure.
(2) Try to convince these doctors to "get together", so that no one can accuse
them individually of being "quacks".
(3) Try to convince these doctors to "go public".
(4) Take all the past emails from those cured rosaceans, (with their
permission), and post them, either at "rosacea-cure", or at another group I
started, called "new-rosacea-treatment", where the archive is not open to the
public.
There, we can begin to allow all past cured rosaceans, their doctors, and even
rosaceans just starting this treatment/cure, to exchange group posted email that
is not open to the public. But that may be years away, given the speed of
current events, regarding this cure.
I do wish that it already was operating, so that you could join there, and share
with others, about this cure. I prepared this group way back in June 2003.
So, I will be trying to find that other email to send you, in a later email.
Please do continue updating me, and thanks for your patience.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming
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Racey wrote:
Hi Dave,
What I'd like to see is reports from others who have tried this and had good
results.
I keep thinking that if this is true then why haven't others come forward?
I certainly would want to share a cure with others!!
And also what keeps you going about this Dave? Why haven't you just thrown in
the towel and said well "I'm cured?"
Right now my face is less rosacea-ish. I will only know if DMSO fluconazole is
the cure if I am able to continue it by the pharmacy filling the prescription
that my doc gave me.
Right now they are holding it up cuz they have never had a request for 10%.
I keep thinking that if only I had the script for 1% I could already have it in
my hands...oh well!
My husband says my face looks a little raw to him and that I need to slow down.
I'm taking his advice. Like you said -- once a month is good.
Currently I am also changing my thought process about everything. I tend to be
a type A personality and stress aggravates rocacea. My new thoughts liking
trusting in God and enjoying life more are probably also helping me look better
too.
Racey
P.S. Again if you can share others experiences it would really encourage me!
Have a good day!
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:18:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dave Fleming" <fulltruth40@...
Subject: Re:DMSO+FLuc
To: "Racey"
Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, Racey,
Please see your doctor, about this. You should definitely not attempt this,
without a doctor's care. I am not your doctor.
In fact I AM NOT A DOCTOR!!!
So there is no way that my thoughts on the matter would do you any good.
PLEASE SEE YOUR DOCTOR.
Also, it is not "weird", for you to want a reputable, fully qualified
Compounding Pharmacist like Michael Roberge, R.Ph., to fill your Rx.
His website is at:
<compoundedsolutions.com>
Besides, I did not tell you to get the FIRST med from Michael.
I told you that it would be best, if you get a refill from Michael,
so that you can COMPARE the two, (USING THEM AT THE SAME TIME),
to make sure that the Rx you get from your doctor has the
same effect and the two Compounding Pharmacists are
"on the same page", in your opinion.
In my opinion, you should see your doctor, and wait at least a month, before
using the Rx you get through your doctor.
What you have used now might harm you, since you made it yourself.
It's sad that you did not take my advice, and test this Rx on some skin that
does not show, such as on your arm, etc, before applying it to your face.
To make matters worse, your doctor might find it very hard now to witness this
and take care of you, since you have used this "home made" med.
Therefore, your suffering might not serve those 200,000,000 rosaceans who can be
helped, if enough doctors come forward with positive testimonials, about this
treatment/cure for rosacea.
So, you may have made some mistakes, but you should get your doctor to
understand that you need his help with this treatment/cure.
If he cares about you, he will help you. Otherwise, you must find a doctor that
WILL help you.
Please be more careful. As you know, this is not an "overnight" cure. No one
needs to suffer as I did, with this treatment/cure. Work with your doctor.
I believe that this is an incredibly historic time,
(for the first cure for rosacea),
and you should tell your doctor that he might be famous in the future, as being
one of those doctors who cared enough, to make this break-through.
But that home-made med has to go, Racey. You should be more careful, for your
family's sake, as well as for yours.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming
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Racey wrote:
Hi Dave, I am still waiting for my Dr. to allow me to
try the med. He seems to be taking his time getting
in touch with his Pharmacist.
I have not menioned your Pharmacist to him because
I don't want it to sound all too weird to him.
Here I'm asking for a med
that is rarely used and I'm asking to get it thru only
one source. If I were him I'd think it strange.
Anyways, as I mentioned before to you I have DMSO and
diflucan and yes I have mixed them myself and applied
it to my entire face about 4 times the first day.
I was red and burning!! Second day I did it again took a
break and did it Sunday one final time before I
decided to give myself a break. I still need a script
cuz I'm running out.
Yesterday I took my child to
soccer practice and felt like the ugliest mom there
with my red peeling face. I went and sat in my car
and wanted to cry!
Not only do I suffer from rosacea
on my face but I see squiggly lines
when my eyes move and they sometimes burn.
The dr.s just give my antibiotics which seems
to make it worse!
Also my back and arms and neck also have the rosacea or
whatever it is!!!! I can't tolerate heat in those areas.
DO YOU KNOW HOW FUNGUS RESPONDS TO HEAT AT ALL?
Strange, but my rosacea got really bad after I
went to a tanning spa. (I will never do that again!)
I wonder if the tan spa session caused the fungus or
whatever to spread. Like maybe heat is feeding it.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
talk to ya! Racey
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:14:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Dave Fleming" <fulltruth40@...
Subject: RE:the cure
To: "Racey"
Dave Fleming wrote
Hi, Racey,
Many people have been trying this, and they've all but one told me that they had
good results. There was one who gave up too soon, but I think she may try the
10% med, and get better results.
I do not know who you are speaking about, recently.
Nothing has been on the rosacea-cure board, so I'm not sure who you mean.
Where did you see the info on the man you're talking about?
The description of the effects on me, are in rosacea-cure message #2.
Since everyone is different, your case may be milder.
However, I consider rosacea to be a horribly disfiguring disease, which is
proven to be "progressive", slowly getting worse and worse, even though there
may be temporary periods of less "symptoms".
Therefore, I was much more concerned with that reality, than with the
discomfort/unsightlyness I felt, from this treatment/cure. I believe that
women have a bigger problem than men with this, because women are expected to
always be "pretty", and men are not.
The only consolation I can offer, is that this treatment/cure is better than the
rosacea.
Also, if you really "freak out", you can always stop using it. In my opinion,
that would not be wise, because this disease does do more damage as it
progresses, and this battle with it is better fought sooner than later.
Honestly speaking, this is not an "easy" cure, nor an "overnight" cure, but I
believe it is the only cure we have, so I am thankful for it.
But I was not going out every day, having to face anyone, when I used this med.
You will have to decide for yourself, as you use it.
That's why I have told everyone to go slowly at first, waiting at least a couple
of days after the med is applied, to judge the effect, before applying more, and
waiting at least a couple of weeks, after multiple applications of the med, for
the healthy skin to "regenerate".
Since everyone is different, I guess I'm not much help, actually.
I hope you have a good Holiday, and I hope you become as happy as I was, when I
got rid of this disease.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming
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Racey wrote:
Hello Dave,
I noticed that someone else recently received a script
for this and he has tried it. Had he gotten in touch
with you and what are his results?
Also, you mention alot about it getting worse b-4
betting better.
Could you clarify?
I guess I want to know what to expect so
I do not freak out while using
it (once I finally get it!!!)
Thx -Racey
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