For Everyone,
Here are some emails I exchanged with "Joggy". "Joggy" is not her real name,
and I have removed other indications of identity.
"Joggy" is the only rosacean ever to contact me, who also is curing her

case of ocular rosacea.

Even though it is estimated that only 20% of all rosaceans also have ocular
rosacea, my strong belief is that all rosaceans are destined to get ocular
rosacea, as part of the inexorable progression of this disease.
I believe that most rosaceans are "developing" ocular rosacea, as I was, without
being aware of it, until the symptoms make themselves all too evident to ignore.

That's why I am especially excited, at the preliminary good results that Joggy
has.

I have always believed that ocular rosacea could be cured by (DMSO +
fluconazole/Diflucan), without this med ever actually contacting the eyeball
directly, which might be dangerous.
Instead, the (DMSO + fluconazole) seems to be effectively attacking the ocular
rosacea through the bloodstream, when the med is applied ONLY to the skin of the
face.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming ----TEXT OF EMAILS FOLLOWS IN REVERSE CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER----

April 20, 2004
Dave Fleming wrote:
----MESSAGE EDITED----
Hi, dear Joggy,
It's good to hear from you.
I have high hopes for you.
I will be posting some of our email soon, on the rosacea-cure board, along with
that of other rosaceans who have been reaching me. I will remove all ID info,
such as the locations you mentioned, your name, etc. I hope this is fine with
you.
I have even prepared the post, by saying that, as the first ocular rosacea case
being cured in the history of mankind, I hope you keep a journal, write a book,
and become famous.
Would that this were "my" process, I'd make a billion dollars, (which I really
do not want, anyway). I guess this process/cure belongs to God, and I was just
led to it.

It's very good to hear that you feel good, about the disappearance of those
"fine lines".

They make me nervous, when I'm relating to women rosaceans being cured. My
craggy face could care less, about any more "wrinkles". :-)

I am very, very surprised, that your face stinging would disappear this soon,
but anything is possible. For me, it was many months, and, technically, there
is still some very minor "sensation" in my face even to this day, if I apply any
med to certain parts.

Yes, I believe that this med serves as a diagnostic tool, and when there is no
stinging, (OR NO VISUAL CHANGE TO THE APPEARENCE OF THE SKIN), when the med is
applied, then there is no longer any rosacea.

Yes, the way I see it, is that your immune system has suddenly found a "foreign
body" in your skin/eyes, (which has been "exposed" and/or "killed", by the med),
and proceeds to attack it, and "carry it away".

This is the common process in the body, that normally produces pus, if the wound
is open. My guess, is that the white "crumbly stuff" may be like special pus,
(since pus is usually yellow), which consists of the dead bodies of the "rosacea
entity", along with the "brave" white blood cells, which also may "die" in the
"cleanup".

Recently, when I treat the inside of my nose with the 10% med, I get this "post
nasal drip", which I occasionally "hock up" (pardon me), and look at. It is an
extremely viscous, whitish-translucent material, which will be formed for many
days or even weeks after I treat the inside of the nose.
I think it has similarities to your eye result.
Concerning that "odd spot", I believe that these "fungal entities" might need to
have a break in the skin, to get a "toe hold". For example, you may have
scratched your face, when you were a child.
Then, over many years time, some sort of "network" of secondary infestation
spreads out, from that "root area". The secondary infestation is easier to
destroy, but that "root area" may require the strength of the 10% med.

I had this "root area" in the infestation on my left hand, on the "liver spot"
on my left arm, and on my left cheek, which was a little larger than the size of
a quarter. This root area is very persistent/resistant to treatment, and
difficult to destroy completely with the 1% med.
BTW, you should not stop trying to get the 10% med, in my opinion.

Thanks for the update. I feel much better now, about your "fine lines", that
were caused by the med. Please continue to let me know, if I can help in any
way.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming

From : Joggy
Sent : Monday, April 19, 2004 11:15 PM
To : fulltruth40@...
Subject : rosacea cure
hi dave,
i am enjoying our correspondence. its cool to hear about your process and such.
to give you an update:
first of all, i didnt know about the 10% solution until after i already got the
1%, so that is the one i have been using.
what you said about the method of applying many times in one day and then
waiting a couple weeks or a week or whatever makes sense to me.
the fine lines i spoke of seem to have dissapated.

i just decided to apply it tonight because i have an odd spot by my mouth that
is rough. so i just put some on it and sure enough, it stung and now is kind of
swollen looking. but the interesting thing is i put the stuff allover my face
and it didnt sting!

could it be that i have a very mild case of this stuff on my face? to answer
your question i am 39, i will be turning 40 in august. so i am a bit sensitive
about the wrinkles issue, although most people really are shocked when they
learn my actual age.
i really seem much younger even to myself. but age is a weird phenonomon.
i know i spelled that wrong, it just looks neat that way.

so, about my eyes. i was suffering a huge amount after the first few days on a
daily application regimen.
it was so bad, like i said, even though i was in my studio painting for 8 hours
straight, my eyes felt like they were being peirced by any light i looked at
....

since i took a break in the med, and used these special eye drops that the
opthamologist gave me, my eyes are feeling much better.
i am wondering if the "rosacea causing entity" was going through some kind of
death thros or something. i know its probably not completely dead yet, i have
only just begun

not that you need to hear about my eye gunk, but i usually dont have much of it
and today and yesterday i noticed white crumbly stuff in the corners of my eyes.
interesting, maybe its dead fungus.
i dont know, i am probably getting too sci fi about it.

anyway, do you really think if it doesnt sting, your skin is healed?
do you have any thoughts on why there was just one spot that got bumpy and raw
and still stung?
could the entity formerly known as rosacea fled to one area of my face? its all
so trippy.

if this works on me, i think my dermatologist may think about prescribing it to
others
he seemed suprizingly open about it.
good night sir!
Joggy
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Apr. 19, 2004
Subject: OCULAR ROSACEA CURE
Hi, Joggy,
----MESSAGE EDITED----
I have to say, and I am sorry to say, that your question is a good one, about
"wrinkles".
There are two types of "wrinkles" involved.
One, is when the med is applied, and this "condition" lasts about 5 hours, or
overnight, and then is back to "normal", from being drawn, leathery, and pale,
truly wrinkled cheeks, although of course wrinkles do not occur on the forehead,
sides of the face, or chin area.
The other type of "wrinkles", and I put it in quote marks, because it is so
fine, that it really is not "wrinkles", but rather very fine "lines", in the
skin, is a much longer lasting effect.
It seems to be an integral part of this treatment/cure, since I have it at this
moment on my arm, where I've been treating something there since Feb. 22, 2004,
with the new 10% med, (i.e. (DMSO + 10% fluconazole), or [FLUCONAZOLE 10%
SOLUTION].

Being an older man, I honestly have not noticed any significant "fine lines", on
my face. But I have to admit, that there are some, (which I just found), only
on my cheeks and under my eyes. But I swear that they are "invisible".

But I am older, (over 50), and looking for and finding these fine lines on my
face, might be harder for me than for you, if you are younger. My immediate
answer, when I read your email, was, "The wrinkles are temporary".

But then I found myself going to get a hand mirror, and using the magnifying
side, to actually look closely at my face. I still cannot swear, (on penalty of
being hanged, etc), that there are no "fine lines" there.
But were the almost invisible "lines" there caused by my use of huge amounts of
this 1% med, over many months? I do not believe that they were.

In other words, although I am not absolutely sure, it is my opinion, that these
fine lines which are caused by the med, though they can last for weeks or
months, do finally "resolve", possibly weeks or months after the last med is
applied.

Perhaps what I mean by that, is that these fine lines fade away to such a point
that they are no longer visible. But don't I know what I mean? Well, I'm not
sure. My belief has always been that these "fine lines" are completely
temporary.
But, confronted by your question, I am forced to admit, that some small part of
this condition MIGHT never "resolve", FROM YOUR VIEWPOINT, since I do not know
your age.
Whew! This is tough to explain. But it's very good knowledge, for future
rosaceans using this treatment/cure.

I am absolutely sure that the wrinkles that you are referring to, as "tight and
hard in a weird way", are absolutely temporary.
But I am not as sure, that some residual, "invisible fine lines" might not be
there later.

How much later? Hmmmm. If you wait one to three months, without applying any
med, you will be the only one who can judge that.
I am truly sorry, that I cannot be more accurate about this, but I only have my
own experience, at this time.
I believe that there is no harm in waiting, because this "rosacea causing
entity" grows so slowly, (in my opinion), that you will not really give it any
real opportunity to undo the good that you have done, with the treatment so far,
in one to three months.

I very much encourage your "warrior's spirit", as I call it, of being gung ho
with the med. I had that spirit.
Multiple applications of the med should be made, in one day, involving even ten
or more applications, waiting ten or more minutes, for each application to "soak
in".
But I do not believe that a daily application is best, because the immune system
has to be allowed to work, in a substantial waiting period, of at least two
weeks to a month.

Then, another multiple application of the med, in one day, and another waiting
period, etc. I don't believe that daily applications of the med do "harm", but
there seem to be two "mechanisms" at work.
One is the "killing", by the med's application.
The other one is more mysterious, which I believe involves the immune system's
"working", to "remove the dead bodies", in preparation for the next battle,
(i.e. the multiple med application). Applying the med every day might cause
greater suffering which, bottom line, is most likely not necessary, to get the
full effect of this treatment/cure.
But I believe that one of my problems, was that, once my face had improved some,
and the effects of the treatment(s) were over, I dreaded applying the med again.

So this is a major drawback, of this treatment/cure. It is self-evident, that
applications of the med should be made, (with appropriate waiting periods for
the skin to regenerate), as heavily as possible, until the day comes, that the
stinging occurs little or not at all, when it is applied.

But there is a built in avoidance factor set up, whereby our first suffering,
and the improvement that comes, tend to cause us to stop the treatments sooner
than is necessary, to fully "kill off" this "rosacea causing entity", whatever
it is.

Of course, even a partial "killing", may leave us without rosacea symptoms for
months, or even for a couple of years, (I'm just guessing at that time period),
because I believe that this "rosacea entity" grows very, very slowly.

But it would seem obvious, that we should "finish off/kill" this "rosacea
entity", COMPLETELY, even though it does appear possible, that we might "catch
rosacea" again, in the future.
Since I believe that it grows stealthily in the skin for ten or more years,
before starting to cause rosacea symptoms, (since no one under 16 has had
rosacea SYMPTOMS, according to all experts), a cured rosacean might apply this
med at least once every five years, or even once a year, to see if this "rosacea
entity" has returned, and kill it again, before rosacea symptoms even occur.

All this is possible, because the stinging, (or visual change of the skin) this
med causes, is a clear diagnostic tool, since this med has virtually no effect
on healthy skin.

You state, "and get it over with", as your goal, and that's a very good goal.
To top all this off, I don't even really remember when I was cured. It was
sometime in the latter half of 2002, so that means my treatments were going on
for at least six months or more.
But there was a whole lot of time that I delayed the med applications, for many
reasons. So, I claim that the "most serious" rosacea symptoms should be gone
within one or two months, but I really cannot say how long these treatments
should take, beyond that first couple of months.

In my case, the "most serious" symptoms were the pustules on my nose, but I
don't know how to translate that to other rosaceans' cases. In your case,
perhaps your most serious symptom is the ocular rosacea.

I am really hoping that you notice some improvement, but I am absolutely
certain, that you are curing your ocular rosacea, no matter what your subjective
perception of it might be in the coming month or two.
I am really wishing that you notice at least some miniscule improvement. But
please have confidence, that the improvement will come.

Everything I've learned about this med, says that when the "reaction" occurs,
healing follows. But it does take time. It does take TIME. And since I believe
this time involves the "workings" of your immune system, I don't believe there
is any way to speed it up, by daily applications of the med.

Well, that's it for now. Thank you for "getting this out of me". I've never
been good at putting this on paper by myself.
Please stay in touch, and let me know how you do.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming

Joggy wrote:
hi dave,
thanks for taking the time to respond to my email. i backed off on the
medication because i want to let my skin calm down a bit, flake off some of the
dead skin cells before i continue. (plus i had a date yesterday and didnt want
to look like a leper)

i am heeding your advice to go on my own pace, check the progress etc...
my eyes have calmed down a bit since i didnt apply the solution yesterday or the
day before.
but i hope you are right about what this increased eye pain indicates or could
be indicating.
in your email you said that the medication reveals the damage that has been done
by the rosacea, you mentioned the few veins on your nose..... but then you said
something about fine wrinkles.....
i am wondering if you meant the fine wrinkles are temp or that they are a
by-product of getting rid of the rosacea?
i have noticed a bunch of wrinkles on my face that were never there before since
i started this but it seems like dead skin. its sort of tight and hard in a
weird way.
i dont want wrinkles! not yet anyway.

your point about being on an island where there were no cars etc is well taken.
i wish that i were on an island or someplace more natural with a bunch of great
people. but i am not! i am in (location deleted)! eek!

by the way, i have spent a fair amount of time living in nature in (location
deleted), without modern conveniences so it was funny that you said that to me.
i miss that lifestyle, but i am here to finish my degree so i have to stick to
that plan.

i am torn between wanting to go gung ho on my face and get it over with, but it
hurts too much and i guess i am too self concious to do that. i just met a
person that i am dating and i dont want to scare him away!!!

but in your experience with this, did you slow down on your treatment to once
every two weeks after a while? how is your face these days? are the wrinkles
gone?

you know, it really is sad that people in the world try to suppress this kind of
information. but you know, the world is a beautiful place if you dont mind a few
dead minds.
thanks,
Joggy.
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Apr. 18, 2004
Subject: It takes time, to cure Ocular Rosacea (!!!)
Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, Joggy,
It's good to hear from you.
Please consider using an email address outside Yahoo!, and use my hotmail
address, at:
fulltruth40@...
(i.e. fulltruth40 @ hotmail.com)
It may not be very satisfying, but my answers are fairly simple.

(1) If stinging occurs, when this med is applied, (OR if the skin significantly
changes in appearence), then, by definition, it is "needed", no ifs, ands, or
buts.

(2) This takes time. Once again, this takes TIME. If you apply the med too
much for your ability to "cope" with the effects, then you should slow down, not
apply the med any more, and daily observe the effects for a month or more. Since
each of us is an individual, the effects and our ability to "cope" with them,
will vary.

Also, if the rosacea has done damage that did not show, and, in the process of
getting rid of the rosacea, that damage does show, we can still be thankful to
have gotten rid of the horribly progressive rosacea.
Even though the skin on my nose is obviously healthy now, two or three purple
veins still show on the left side, where the rosacea did damage. Also, some
very fine wrinkles may occur.
I can only say, that you should wait as long as it takes, for you to feel some
confidence that these effects are temporary. That could easily be one, or even
two months.

Concerning your eyes, my attitude, is that the "reaction" you are experiencing
proves that your eyes needed this treatment very much, and will be in much
better condition, after you have waited at least a month, while you daily assess
the results.

If you were on a Pacific island, with no car, and no responsibilities, this
treatment/cure would cause you less psychological problems, and you might be
able to "pile on" the med applications non-stop.
But we each must find the limits and/or the schedule, of how we apply this med,
once we understand that the effects are substantial.

And we must understand, that the application of the med should "normally" be
followed by a substantial waiting period, while we allow our immune system to
"clean up" the battle field, in preparation for the next battle.
The final battle will come, even though it may be many months away. We will
finish this treatment/cure, when we apply this med, and little or no stinging
occurs.

Is it "negative", to finally allow our immune system to attack an infestation
that has been growing unchecked in us for perhaps decades? Well, the effects
may seem negative, as you've experienced, but from the right viewpoint, this
"negative" effect seems to be the most positive thing we could imagine, (i.e.
curing rosacea).

You are the first person who has spoken clearly, about ocular rosacea effects.
Frankly, I am excited and inspired, by your description of your eyes, that feel
a "100 times worse".
To me, this proves what I have been claiming all along, that this med will cure
ocular rosacea, even though the med should not and does not contact the eyeball
directly.

It reminds me of the feeling I had, when I first applied this med to my nose,
and it turned bright cherry red, and hurt like hxll. I felt like a soldier in
battle, as tears ran down my face, and ??? ran out of my nose, and I was taking
no prisoners. :-)

I hope you are fully aware, that your suffering in this matter will very likely
serve to help 200,000,000 rosaceans discover this treatment/cure.
But don't go too fast. Take it easy. Waiting IS.... Perhaps you should not
apply any more med, until you are confident about these effects being temporary.

The amazing point of all this, is that this is the first time in history, that
the CAUSE of rosacea is being attacked and destroyed.
I have said that one LOOKS worse, before one LOOKS better. I did not mean that
one GETS worse.
I cannot see how the destruction of this infestation could hurt your eyes, even
though it is traumatic, because you are finally destroying something that may
have been growing in you unchecked since you were a child.
Allowing it to continue growing would certainly hurt your eyes more....
Well, thank you, Joggy, for the update. Please continue to let me know what's
happening.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming

From: Joggy wrote:
Date: Sat Apr 17, 2004 9:30am
Subject: hello again
hi,
i am sorry if i am pestering you, but you are the only person i know
of who has treated themselves with this solution.
i have read all the old posts about your experience with treating your
rosacea with fluconazole, but i still have some questions.

i have to admit i also just need some reassurance and support.

i have been using the medicine for 5 or 6 days now, i started with
two applications a day, now i am just doing one at night because my
face is really a mess.
its sore and i look like i have aged about 10 years in a week.
my skin on my face is all tight and wrinkled looking, yesterday
it was very red. this is normal i gues,
theway you described it is the cure is worse than the condition and i
really hope this is temporary.

the thing i am wondering about, or need a second opinion about is if
the same theory could be applied to the ocular rosacea; that the
cure makes it get worse before it gets better.
i ask because my eyes are so sore, about 100 times worse
than normal irritation that i attribute to the ocular rosacea.

i am wondering if it could be that the fungus (?) in my eyes is so
interwoven with the membrane of the eye that in order to kill it, i
have to kill some cells in my eyes.
this is scary.
i am a visual artist!
i paint for sometimes 7 or 8 hours straight and last night
when i was driving home from my studio after a 7 hour painting
session, i was literally wincing in pain from the headlights of
other cars and even traffic lights! i really hope this is a sign of
healing, not an indication that my condition is really getting worse.

to sum up, there are two questions:
what is your opinion about the possiblity that the treatment has a
temporary negative effect on the eyes before they get better?

how long did it take before you saw some healthy skin on your face?
and did it make you look old and wrinkled first, is that the dead
skin?
(ok, that was more than 2 questions.)
thanks,
Joggy
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Apr. 17, 2004
Dave Fleming wrote:
Hi, Joggy,
----MESSAGE EDITED----
Thank you, for your input, and your positivity.
I'm very happy, that another rosacean has been given this Rx, for rosacea.
Dare I ask, did you get the 1% med, (at $47.00 per 15 ML), or the 10% med, (at
$102.00 per 15 ML)? These are the prices with my Compounding Pharmacist,
Michael Roberge, R.Ph. His website is at:
compoundedsolutions.com

The 1% is easier to get the Rx for, because it has been prescribed for nail
fungus for over five years. But there is now very good reason to believe that
the 10% med is "milder", with slightly less stinging, and more effectiveness,
(as well as giving you five times as much fluconazole for your money.)

In the beginning, I also had to stop applications, because my face was sore.
But I think that your immune system has to do some very slow work, after each
time you apply this, so too many applications may be unproductive. Patience and
persistence are the absolute rule, with this treatment/cure.

I believe it is good to be zealous, and perhaps apply even ten+ applications in
one day, (which I could not even begin to tolerate, in the beginning), but after
that, a month of waiting and observing, should perhaps be endured, especially in
the beginning. I have found no way out of this "delay", in the process.

BTW, when using any "face cream", etc, be sure to read rosacea-cure message
#189, at:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosacea-cure/message/189>

Your questions are very good, as per:
"when you say you used it intensively, did your skin literally peel
off? or was it just flaky? is it accurate to say that when your skin
was cured, the solution no longer stung when applied?"

Actually, it is sort of somewhere between peeling, and being flaky. Getting out
of a long hot shower, if I aggressively tried to rub all the peeling skin off
with a dry towel, or with a wet washcloth, I could get it off, but then my skin
was really raw.

If you leave it alone, to some degree, then it sort of looks flaky, with almost
microscopic peeling. You should mostly leave it alone, and I discovered what I
consider is the ideal face cream, to "blend in" the peeling skin, so it does not
show so much. One place I mentioned this, is rosacea-cure message #187.
------HERE IS THE QUOTE FROM #187:
"In order to "blend in" the peeling skin, which can be unsightly, I highly
recommend an "anti-inflammatory" cream, the ingredients of which are recommended
by Dr. Perricone. It is called:
Reviva Labs: Alpha-Lipoic-Acid-Vitamin-C-Ester-&-DMAE Cream

This is under $20.00, available only from the Vitamin Shoppe chain of stores, to
my knowledge. These stores are in only 18 states, but they sell through the web,
at:
vitaminshoppe.com
and also through a toll-free phone number, at:
1-800-223-1216
This "anti-inflammatory" cream says on the label to use it at "night time", but
I believe it should also be used in the morning, to help "blend in" whatever
peeling skin may occur, so that it does not show, during the day."
---END OF QUOTE-----
The DMAE in this face cream also works against the temporary wrinkles.

Concerning your second question, it stings less, but I will admit to you
privately, (and I have not admitted this anytime before), that there may be some
miniscule stinging, even after you are cured. I say this, because I had been
cured for about six months, with no rosacea symptoms, in Jan. 2003, and I
applied the med to see what would happen.

Even though I have stated that there was "no" stinging, that is a relative term.
Compared to the stinging beginning the treatment/cure, that slight stinging I
had in Jan. 2003 was "zero" stinging. But it was not the same, as if I applied
it to my hand or arm, where there was never any stinging at all, from start to
finish of curing the "stuff" on my hand, or the "liver spot" on my arm, but
rather some "itching".

It may be that there are many more nerves in the face, which causes this
difference. One important fact to remember, is that the stinging does decrease,
as this cure takes place, but the first couple of times, (perhaps a month
apart), it may not seem to decrease.
The eyes are a difficult subject. I have always been apprehensive, about the
eyes, with this med, because we certainly do not want the kind of "reaction" we
get in the skin, to occur on the cornea, or any part of the eyeball.

But I believe I've been a little too cautious. I even stayed away from the skin
around the eyes. But now, I believe that the med should be applied to the skin
under the eyes, (where the "bags" are :-), as long as no med enters the eye
socket. This also applies to the eyebrow area, over the eyes.

Even so, in years to come, it may be determined that this med cannot cause any
harm, if applied into the eye. I even found some obscure reference once, to
some ophthalmologic solution, (probably for use by veterinarians), of DMSO and
fluconazole, but I could not determine the "strength". [FLUCONAZOLE 1% (or 10%)
SOLUTION] uses a 100% concentration of DMSO.

That's very unusual. 70% DMSO, (i.e. 30% water), or 50% DMSO, (i.e. 50%
water), are much easier to find, to apply topically on large muscle areas, or
even to take ORALLY.
Some people claim that 100% DMSO will "burn" you, but I know that is not true.

Even so, I maintain extreme caution, and it should be forbidden, concerning
applying this med to the eyeball itself.
I say this because it is a complete unknown to me.
But I also believe that ocular rosacea will be cured by this med, from just
applying it to the facial skin, (and especially inside the nose, whereby some
miniscule amount of the med is swallowed), AND NOT INTO THE EYES, because it is
known that some small percentage of the med that is applied does travel
throughout the body through the bloodstream.
BTW, if possible, please use my "hotmail" address in the future, and email me
at:
fulltruth40@...
(i.e. fulltruth40 @ hotmail.com)
As for your posting in other forums, that's all well and good, but it is only
your doctor's witnessing of this, that will do any good, in my opinion.
BTW, in the clinical dermatological realm, photographs are considered useless.
As good as it sounds, to have "before and after" photos, they have little or no
credibility, because different lighting, etc, can make such huge differences,
and, of course, they can be "manipulated" easily, with all the digital "stuff"
that now exists, for that purpose.

Only your doctor's witnessing this process will be of any use, to those
200,000,000 rosaceans who are still unable to try this treatment/cure, for
whatever reasons.

Thank you very much for contacting me. Please continue to give me "updates". I
save all emails carefully, for future posting, (with your permission), once your
doctor gives a positive public testimonial in the future.
God Bless,
Dave Fleming

From: Joggy wrote:
Date: Thu Apr 15, 2004 10:04pm
Subject: "Rosacea"
hi,
thanks for your reply
my dermatologist gave me a perscription to fluconazole, i had your
pharmacist make it and send it to me.
(editor's note: this was the [FLUCONAZOLE 1% SOLUTION] - DF)
i started the treatment 3 days ago.
i took a before picture. but my face was not that bad, it has
been worse at other times.
my experience so far is like you said, burning. but the worst pain
in my whole life? NO! not that bad. sometimes i wonder if men have a
lower threshold for pain. (iamawoman, bytheway)

anyway, i got really zealous the first day and applied it like 4
times, but now, third day, i only did one application because my
face is sore. it feels like i have a sunburn and my skin is tight.

i am also using some natural face creams to soothe it
when you say you used it intensively, did your skin literally peel
off? or was it just flaky? is it accurate to say that when your skin
was cured, the solution no longer stung when applied?

my eyes dont feel any better yet. my face looks a little worse, but
i expected that from your description. if i have to go through some
discomfort that is worth it to be free from this red face problem
finally.
i have pictures of myself painted up as a clown and some of
my face is showing and its really red! but that was 2 summers ago in
(location deleted) when it was horribly hot.
anyway, thanks again, i will certainly post on the other forums with
my results.
i think your assesment is correct, i think those that benefit from
keeping the sick needing medications dont want people to find out
about this.
best,
Joggy


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