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Re: High Meat & Aajonus ,Subject Change

And nor should we ever argue to our government the healthfulness of a personal
choice. That's not their business, like you said.



--- In rawpaleodiet@yahoogroups.com, JOE O <joneil21@...> wrote:
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> There are experts trying to affect this change at the national level. 
However, most of these efforts can be seen at the local level.  For example,
here in Alaska, we expect raw milk to be legal this year.  What we are doing,
though, is framing it as a business issue.  We have convinced most of our
politicians that we need to support our farmers and promote agribusiness.  The
costs associated with a pasteurized dairy system have made dairy farming in
Alaska cost-prohibitive.  Our politicians agree and have promised to pursue
legislation this year to make raw dairy legal. 
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> We also framed this as a personal freedom issue.  Alaskans have always prided
themselves on being independent and free.  Laws such as these run counter to
that.  Government should not dictate how we prepare our food.  If people
purchase raw milk and choose not to cook it, then they have no one to blame but
themselves when they get ill.  The same principle exists with meat, so dairy
should be treated no differently.
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> Notice how we made no mention of the superior nutritional qualities of raw
milk, enzyme levels, or the health hazards of pasteurized milk.  All we are
arguing is that Alaskans should have access to raw, natural foods and prepare it
how they see fit.  Government should not cook our food for us.  And, as an added
benefit, it promotes business and, therefore, helps the economy.  I guarantee
that you will have far greater success with this kind of legislation if you
frame it in those terms rather than put forth an agenda that promotes the
consumption of raw food.
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> --- On Sun, 6/28/09, Claire West <clairewest@...> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [rawpaleodiet] Re: High Meat & Aajonus ,Subject Change
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mention who "are in favor" such laws actually crusading -- in the sense of
spearheading -- the fight? Because that is what AV seems to be doing -- again,
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more wholesome foods, if not actually raw), I actually have some. It seems this
new movie (I think the name is something like Food, Inc.) is quite powerful --
as was the book that Pollan wrote (The Omnivore's Dilemma).
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Claire, There are experts trying to affect this change at the national level.  However, most of these efforts can be seen at the local level.  For example,...
JOE O
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Jun 28, 2009
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And nor should we ever argue to our government the healthfulness of a personal choice. That's not their business, like you said....
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Jun 29, 2009
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Just so as to hammer the point home re the fact that the consumption of cooked food leads to increased aging(via ingestion of heat-created toxins), here is an...
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Jun 30, 2009
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Thanks; very cool. And as usual, eating your meat raw solves the entire problem, a solution conveniently overlooked by the authors. ginny All stunts performed...
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Joe, It sounds like you're doing good work and getting excellent results. Congratulations. Claire [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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  Our politicians agree and have promised to pursue legislation this year to make raw dairy legal.   ****** Joe, you may want to check this out..... I am...
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Stacey, Yes, I have heard of it and read it thoroughly.  This is exactly what I have been discussing.  Corporations are using government to do their...
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thing I wonder is if he lied about the Coyotes and some of the other things seem so 'farfetched' how do we know he had all those diseases and ailments or could...
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California new age?!? More like either closed minded Christian or closed minded closet Christian that practices new age. I had a new age experience. Right...
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I'm not complaining about Aajonus' tall stories. There are tons of religions out there telling even taller stories. My take on Aajonus teaching health advice...
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Hey I resemble that remark! :) California.. it's the land of fruits and nuts. Guess which one I am. :) Luv, Debby in San Jose, CA Student: Nutrition...
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do you all think his son really recovered from those serious injuries with only raw food?  I think a written testimony from his about it would be great. ... ...
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You're both! :P Yours Truly, Dan Holt On Jun 11, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...> wrote: Hey I resemble that remark! :)...
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I'm discussing calories with a cooked palaeodieter on another list. Can anyone provide me with information on the issue of calories in raw foods and cooked...
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William, <I just don't understand why he chooses to damage his credibility by making up outlandish stories about his past.> It does seem to be...
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I have no patience with the drama queens among us. About the most good I'd get from anything I've heard of and from him is that folks can eat high meat and...
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