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Re: Vegetables

I used to automatically view vegetables as always a bad idea due to
the antinutrients, but the trouble is that self-medication among wild
animals, using herbs/plants, appears to be quite common, and usage of
plants for herbal medicine also seems to have been a common Palaeo
practice among our own human ancestors. It makes sense to me that
something like the antinutrients in plants are unhealthy, if consumed
in excess (eg:- via veggie-juice or a raw-vegan diet), but if eaten
in small, trace amounts might actually be beneficial, in certain
circumstances.


Geoff

--- In rawpaleodiet@yahoogroups.com, "carolyn_graff" <zgraff@...>
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> I don't eat vegetables any more. they don't taste that good to me
and all the nutrients in
> vegetables can be obtained from other foods. this topic just came
up here
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/native-nutrition/
>
> I like this article also.
> http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/vegetables.shtml





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I don't eat vegetables any more. they don't taste that good to me and all the nutrients in vegetables can be obtained from other foods. this topic just came up...
carolyn_graff
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Apr 1, 2008
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I used to automatically view vegetables as always a bad idea due to the antinutrients, but the trouble is that self-medication among wild animals, using...
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... I'm a student of classical homeopathy, which is based upon the reaction of the body to various substances, including toxic and not so toxic plants. Theory...
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hi Jamie There is nothing your body needs in vegetables that cannot be sourced from fat meat. A00% meat diet is entirely healthy. Barry Groves, PhD Author:...
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Hi Jamie I notice that I made a typo in tmy e-mail below. The last sentence should read "A 100% meat diet . . . Barry Groves, PhD Author: Natural Health and...
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Hi Dr. Groves, What types of meat do you recommend to ensure that someone eating an all meat diet gets all of their nutrients? I feel fabulous eating nothing...
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... Hello Debby; As the original poster, I am curious about what areas you feel you are deficient in? How did you arrive at the conclusion that you are ...
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Hi Debby It doesn't really matter so long as the animal has been fed a natural diet and you include the fat. Meat contains all all the nutrients our bodies...
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Isn't it important to eat some animal foods raw for vitamin B-6 as well, Dr. Groves? I remember reading that it is heat sensitive. All the more reason to eat...
Deanna
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Hi Barry and All, I am replying to a rather old post (April '08) from Dr. Groves, and so I have left it intact below for reference. I have, in the last few...
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Hi, When I eat only meat, I get no calcium, since I don't eat bones like our ancestors did. I'm trying to get it together and make bone broths. Sometimes I...
Debby Padilla-Hudson
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Hi Debby, Vitamin C is readily available from uncooked meat and that vitamin K and calcium are abundant in kale and collards. My tastes changed dramatically...
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Hi Debby; Thanks for sharing the details on your diet. I search for Vitamin K information in a carnivors diet,and I found that Vitamin K is synthesised in the...
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Well, if you believe Vilhjalmur Stefansson's reports, then very- minimally-cooked meat still contains tiny, trace amounts of vitamin C, though, of course, raw...
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Debby, I am not all raw yet, and I do make my own stocks with either chicken or beef bones. I add some lemon juice in there to leach out the minerals, and...
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... Most likely only dried, but could be salted. Yummy, though. I like dried shrimps, too. ... Absorption issues, too, I'd think. You can't just soak up...
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Hi Ginny, ... I haven't tried the dried shrimp, where do you buy those? The anchovies I buy are whole (heads, eyeballs and all) and they have no other ...
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... My Chinese supermarket has all sorts of dried fish and weird things in big bins. ginny All stunts performed without a net! [Non-text portions of this...
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Hi Deanna B6 is very widely available in meats so, on our diet, a deficiency is very unlikely. B6 is also somewhat heat and acid resistant, so cooking...
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There seems to be some wide difference of opinion re vitamin B6 with some websites stating it's heat-stable, while others claim it's easily destroyed by...
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Hi Debby Lists like the USDA's don't list all the nutrients in foods correctly. For example, all muscles meats do contain vitamin C, although there isn't much....
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Hi Dr. Groves, The problem for me is a taste issue. I don't seem to like grass fed meat, it tastes very gamey to me. Right now I eat muscle meats that are...
Debby Padilla-Hudson
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Hi, I've been eating low carb for 14 years and so I hope that's enough time for my tastes to change. Wheat products and SAD stuff do repulse me, but I still...
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Aside from shrimp and dried squid, I dislike all fish. :( Sorry I must sound terribly picky. I just got a recipe for bone broth that sounds easy (similar to...
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... Well, yeah, maybe. I'll just volunteer that if you were a dog, we'd make sure you were very hungry, and offer the same thing each day, taking it up if you...
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Deb, put roughly 1 1/2 cups of water in the belender with some raw honey. Add to that some small cut up pieces of liver. Blend in and it will liquify. Add...
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Hi Dr. Groves, Isn't eating small bones and bone broths a better source of calcium then dairy? I don't eat dairy because I don't do well with it and I do not...
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Apr 6, 2008
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Hi Debby Yes, you can get calcium from bones. The easiest are probably (I hate to say it) from canned sardines. These bones are soft and digest well. But most...
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From what I understand you want calcium to be at a1:1 ratio with magnesium. There's plenty of it in meat, but no calcium. I'm sure our ancestors were getting...
Debby Padilla-Hudson
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Lex had dental x-rays that showed an increase in bone density and he eats beef and its organs almost exclusively. I know you want to err on the side of caution...
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