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Geoff,
That is interesting that you were starting to experiment with solid vegetables. Nicholas in his response said he is eating lettuce, which last winter I was experimenting with. Not a lot, just a few inner leaves of romaine, or sometimes dandelion in the morning. There is something that happens with my tastebuds when I know it is enough. When I drink juice I think the difficulty for me comes from making a glass and drinking the whole thing when maybe it is too much. I think I am noticing when I am drinking too much juice (more than a 12 oz glass) a day, I start to feel cold, maybe a little nervous, sleepy. But this could be detox, that is needed. I think also when I overdo the juice, the fats that are in organ meats are not enough and I look to additional sources like butter, to buffer the effects of the juice.
About soured vegetables, I should say that I was eating vegetables soured by adding salt. I noticed during this period of experimenting, my kidneys felt stressed. It could have been the salt, or it could have been the souring. I remember one of the guys at the other site mentioning using celery juice (high in organic sodium) in place of salt. I'm thinking of trying this. Does anybody know how they ferment the greens in these green drinks that are so popular... without adding salt or whey? I'm thinking that this would be more natural than drinking just green juice which sometimes feels to harsh to my body. Maybe the fermentation process would not be so sour, if it was the organic sodium in the greens. This also seems in line with the fact that animals don't eat salt to start the fermentation in their stomachs.
Celeste
Geoffrey Purcell <geoffpurcell@...> wrote:
Geoffrey Purcell <geoffpurcell@...> wrote:
Sorry to hear re your yogurt/fermented veg experiences. I'd actually
planned at some stage to experiment with making sauerkraut for the first
time , but I'm not so sure now, given your own experiments with fermented
veg.
I have to admit I was also a bit worried about my diet being too
restricted when I gave up raw dairy. However, since then I've made a
determined effort to eat as many different kinds of animal meats and
different organ-meats as possible, in order to ensure some sort of variety.
Over the past year, especially, I've tried all sorts of rather exotic
things such as raw lobster(rather cheap if you get it straight from a
fisherman), raw scallops, raw wild boar innards, raw oysters, raw wild
mushrooms etc. I find that, in order to maintain the diet, I need to have a
certain amount of raw fowl and raw seafood as well as the usual meat from
land mammals, so as to have a wide range of tastes.
As to green juices, I personally can't stand the taste of most juiced green
veg, so I usually just stick to tomato/carrot and peppers for ingredients.
I did find after 3 years of not drinking veggie juice on an RPD diet that
I started becoming overly tired, and the veggie juice fixed that problem
almost instantly - apparently the fatigue is supposed to be related to
blood overacidity. Since then I've found that I start to get mild diarrhea
if I heavily overdo the veggie juice, so I saw that as a warning sign and
only have it two or three times a week.
(I've recently started experimenting with raw solid veg again as an
alternative option to drinking raw veggie juice. At the start of this RPD
diet, my digestive system was so badly damaged that I just couldn't handle
any raw solid veg at all and I didn't like the idea of juiced veg as it
didn't seem a very palaeolithic food to me. These days, I've found that a
small amount of solid veg is now tolerated by my body, so I'm considering
eating that instead of juiced veg for the most part, just to see how it
works out.)
Geoff Purcell
>From: "celestelhowe" <celestelhowe@...>
>Reply-To: rawpaleolithicdiet@yahoogroups.com
>To: rawpaleolithicdiet@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [rawpaleolithicdiet] On and off
>Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:34:47 -0000
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>Glad to see there is this new site. I think all the times lately that
>I have been going off raw has to do where I am eating things that
>don't suit me well, like recently trying yogurt and cultured raw
>butter. I felt so weak this morning I could not get out of bed. It
>causes me to feel quite lost and I go back to cooked, which doesn't
>feel right either. I also tried fermented veggies lately which make my
>system feel too sour. It scares me to be becoming so narrow in what I
>am eating. I also get afraid of losing too much weight.
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>In drinking green juices, what are other people out there juicing, and
>how much, how often? Is there a reaction to look for in the body to
>know it is time to drink it, and symptoms of when to lay off for
>awhile?
>
>Celeste
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