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#47 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:05 pm
Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: The case against colonics
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mark.ansara@... wrote:
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 05:18:34 -0600
From: mark.ansara@...
To: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [rawfoodsnaturalhygiene] Fwd: The case against colonics

Dear Dianne:

I would reply to this simply by saying that this person has not presented any
new facts or demonstrated that any of the facts which I presented are invalid.
His argument is entirely personal and subjective. Therefore, I must conclude
that he has not done any research on the topic, as I have. Thus, his thesis
cannot be taken seriously.

Regarding the use of colonics during a fast, that is the worst possible time
to take one. The whole purpose of a fast is to give the body an internal rest;
especially, the organs involved in the digestion and absorption of food
elements are resting during the fast. (We call this a physiological rest.)
Taking a colonic during the fast defeats the purpose of fasting; it forces the
colon to work when it should be resting. In the constipated individual, use of
the colonic forces the bowels to overwork, at a time when they are most in
need of rest to recover. Enervated (tired)bowels NEED REST!

I might concede one circumstance under which a person contemplating a fast
might consider taking a colonic. (This was suggested at one time by
Dr. Herbert M. Shelton.) An extremely obese person, with very high blood
pressure, and suffering from chronic constipation, just before beginning a
fast, might use a colonic just to ensure that the individual will be more
comfortable during the fast. This is an unusual case. Otherwise, I must
emphasize, colonics are a form of interference with the body's normal
functions. They do not remove the cause of the problem and only force the body
to overwork.

As for coffee enemas, it is obvious that they appear to have a beneficial
influence: coffee is a powerful drug; it contains one of the most powerful
non-prescription stimulants known: caffeine. Stimulants "work" in this way:
they are so toxic that the body gives great priority to expelling them from
its system, and expends energy and effort to do so. Thus, as the body
mobilizes its resources to eliminate the threat to its integrity, you will
feel "stimulated" and this may appear at first glance to be beneficial, but
the longer-term consequence is that the body has spent some of its precious
vitality to do this, and is left in a more weakened state than before. I must
repeat, the drug or stimulant does not act in itself on the body: it is
bodily action which takes place, and thus the benefits of taking stimulants
are entirely false and delusional. (Need I remind you that the liver is an
organ of elimination and detoxification?)

The only way to achieve good health is by living healthfully. No drugs or
therapies or treatments are necessary. Thank you.

Sincerely,

Mark Ansara




Quoting Dianne Knight :

> Dear Mark,
>
> Would you like to reply?
>
> Thanks, Dianne
>
> Tim Campbell wrote:
> To: rawfoodsnaturalhygiene@yahoogroups.com
> From: Tim Campbell
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 08:49:54 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [rawfoodsnaturalhygiene] Fwd: The case against colonics
>
> Though I am in agreement with the author that regular, frequent colonics are
> perhaps not good for the colon, I have for 32 years benefitted from
> occasional colonics. I have found them to be particularly helpful during or
> toward the end of a fast. And I have also found coffee enemas to be a
> powerful help in maintaining good liver health.
>
> Be Well, All,
> Tim
>
> Dianne Knight wrote:
>
>
> mark.ansara@... wrote: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:52:25 -0600
> From: mark.ansara@...
> To: Dianne Knight
> Subject: The case against colonics
>
>
> Dear Dianne:
>
> As I promised, here is my article reviewing the case against the use of
> colonics and enemas. This is largely based upon Dr. Shelton's teachings on
> this subject, although some of it is my own reasoning and the result of
> brainstorming with you. I think that it pretty well summarizes the arguments
>
> and position of Natural Hygiene on this subject.
>
> To begin with, colonic irrigation poses a risk of damaging the colon: there
> is
> a possibility of the pressure puncturing the wall of the colon. This would
> result in infection occurring and it may well prove fatal to the victim. I
> admit that in the hands of an experienced therapist, such risks are small,
> but
> I have always felt that it is wise to avoid unnecessary risks.
>
> Secondly, as we have discussed, enemas and colonics may force waste back up
>
> into the small intestine, where the toxic wastes may be absorbed into the
> body. Let us remember that by the time feces reach this stage, the waste is
>
> already in a much more advanced state of decay than earlier in its passage
> through the bowels. Therefore, it is much more toxic and dangerous than
> previously. This fact should indicate that colonics are a potentially
> dangerous procedure, despite the benefits claimed by their proponents.
>
> Thirdly, some colon therapists use various substances (other than plain
> water)
> for the colonic. An example that comes to mind is the coffee enema. These
> therapists claim additional benefits from the use of these substances. As a
>
> hygienist, I would point out that such substances are in themselves toxic,
> and
> if there is any apparent benefit to using them, that is a sure indication of
>
> toxic effects in the body. This is on the principle that only the living body
>
> can act, and the inert, lifeless substances that we use as stimulants are
> incapable of performing any actions; thus, the stimulation is the result of
>
> bodily action, not drug or stimulant action, which is a myth. Introducing
> more toxic substances into the body cannot have any benefits, only toxic
> side-
> effects.
>
> Next, let me mention that a former friend of mine, who believed in colonics
>
> and had undergone at least one such treatment, reported feeling much cleaner
>
> and having much more energy following the treatment. As stated, this is an
> indication of stimulation. The principle is the same as taking drugs as
> stimulants: one takes a drug or a treatment in the belief that it will make
>
> one feel better, and this is the immediate and short-term result. However, we
>
> must remember the Law of Dual Effect: that any stimulation has a two-fold and
>
> opposite effect: the short-term effect of stimulation, followed by the
> long-term and more profound effect of depression or enervation. Again, to
> understand this effect, we must remember that the stimulant does not act upon
>
> the body - it is the body which acts. When a toxic substance enters its
> domain, the body will act to expel it. This requires that the already
> enervated body expend precious energy, thus ultimately leaving it more
> enervated than before. Incidentally, a check of medical textbooks reveals
> that
> the repeated and long-term use of enemas has one major side-effect:
> constipation. This is logical in view of what I just said about profound
> enervation; the colon is left in a greatly enervated state and is less able
> to
> function normally than before.
>
> I might add here that any treatment of this kind is basically irrational:
> treating of symptoms and ignoring causes. This is the approach of medicine,
>
> and represents the exact opposite of the rational approach to disease. The
> hygienic way, which is tested and proven, is to ignore symptoms and remove
> causes. That way, the symptoms (effects) will disappear of their own accord;
>
> no specific treatment is necessary. (And as a bonus there are no
> side-effects.)
>
> Dr. Shelton mentions a couple of other problems with this sort of treatment.
>
> He states that colonics tend to weaken the walls of the colon. He also
> indicates another side-effect of this treatment: visceroptosis, or the
> descent
> of the viscera, i.e., the internal organs and structures of the body. It is
>
> easy to see that this may cause other problems due to pressure on the organs
>
> that are no longer in their normal positions. (This refers to many different
>
> organs, not just the bowels.) Incidentally, Shelton denies the validity of
> X-ray photos of the colon showing it heavily impacted with uneliminated fecal
>
> matter, such as were used by advocates of colonic irrigation like Dr. Norman
>
> Walker. He says that this is merely a fantasy, and he had a medical doctor
> who
> backed him up on this point, saying that they do not see indications of such
> a
> phenomenon during autopsies.
>
> In summary, I think that we must conclude that the use of enemas and colonics
>
> is not justified by a consideration of all of the facts. I also wish to point
>
> out that an enervated organ needs rest, not stimulation or treatment. It is
>
> best to leave it alone and let nature take its course. This is the position
> of
> Natural Hygiene, and it has proven to the wisest course through the long
> history of the movement.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mark Ansara
>
>
>
>
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#46 From: Tom Salsberg <rgarden2222@...>
Date: Thu Jun 9, 2005 9:09 pm
Subject: Re: Run Through the Rain - Or Walk...................................
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Well, that's fair enough, Diane.  Bob Perks, who wrote
the story, based on an observational experience he
had, left it in and he obviously does not work for
Wal-Mart. It would have been better, however, in my
opinion, to leave off the chastising ending that some
anonymous person tacked on at the end after the story
part had ended, and re-attached the "Bob Perks © 2001"
statement that had been cut out.

I'm not in any mood to receive chastising messages.

Yes, I'm busy.  Yes, I'm in a hurry.  But it's only I
who has the right to judge whether I'm overdoing it or
not.  I don't want or need anonymous strangers giving
me standards to measure up to.

Source:  http://www.bobperks.com/runthrurain.htm

Best wishes,
Tom
http://www.TomSalsberg.com

--- Dianne Knight
<raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:

> Dear Tom,
>
> Thanks for your perspective.
>
> I left the reference in, rather than editing it,
> because it make the story so realistic, and to me,
> the joy of the story being told truthfully from the
> heart, outweighed the commercial effect.
>
> Kindly,
>
> Dianne
>
> Tom Salsberg <rgarden2222@...> wrote:
> Actually, if you do not forward this to anyone, it
> does not necessarily mean you are in too much of a
> hurry.  It could mean that you do not wish to
> provide
> free advertising to Wal-Mart.
>
> Aloha,
> Tom
> http://www.TomSalsberg.com
>
> --- Dianne Knight
> <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Trefor Randall <lladnart2001@...> wrote:Date:
> > Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Trefor Randall <lladnart2001@...>
> > Subject: Or
> Walk...................................
> > To: lladnart2001@...
> >
> >
> > Run through the rain
> >
> > A little girl had been shopping with her Mom in
> > Wal-Mart.  She must have been 6 years old, this
> > beautiful red haired, freckle faced image of
> > innocence.  It was pouring outside.  The kind of
> > rain that gushes over the top of rain gutters, so
> > much in a hurry to hit the earth it has no time to
> > flow down the spout.
> >
> > We all stood there under the awning and just
> inside
> > the door of the Wal-Mart. We waited, some
> patiently,
> > others irritated because nature messed up their
> > hurried day.  I am always mes merized by rainfall.
>
> > I got lost in the sound and sight of the heavens
> > washing away the dirt and dust of the world.
> > Memories of running, splashing so carefree as a
> > child came pouring in as a welcome reprieve from
> the
> > worries of my day.
> >
> > The little voice was so sweet as it broke the
> > hypnotic trance we were all caught in "Mom, let's
> > run through the rain," she said.  "What?" Mom
> asked.
> >  "Let 's run through the rain!" She repeated.
> "No,
> > honey.. We'll wait until it slows down a bit," Mom
> > replied.  This young child waited about another
> > minute and repeated: "Mom, let's run through the
> > rain,"  "We'll get soaked if we do," Mom said.
> "No,
> > we won't, Mom. That's not what you said this
> > morning," the young girl said as she tugged at her
> > Mom's arm.
> >
> > This morning? When did I say we could run through
> > the rain and not get wet?  "Don't you remember?
> > When you were talking to Daddy about his cancer,
> you
> > said, 'If God can get us through this, he can get
> us
> > through anything!"
> >
> > The entire crowd stopped dead silent.  I swear you
> > couldn't hear anything but the rain.  We all stood
> > silently.  No one came or left in the next few
> > minutes.  Mom paused and thought for a moment
> about
> > what she would say.  Now some would laugh it off
> and
> > scold her for being silly.  Some might even ignore
> > what was said.  But this was a moment of
> affirmation
> > in a young child's life.  A time when innocent
> trust
> > can be nurtured so that it will bloom into faith.
> > "Honey, you are absolutely right.  Let's run
> through
> > the rain.  If GOD let's us get wet, well maybe we
> > just needed washing,"  Mom said.
> >
> > Then off they ran.  We all stood watching, smiling
> > and laughing as they darted past the cars and yes,
> > through the puddles.  They held their shopping
> bags
> > over their heads just in case.  They got soaked.
> > But they were followed by a few who screamed and
> > laughed like children all the way to their cars.
> > And yes, I did.  I ran. I got wet.  I needed
> > washing.
> >
> > Circumstances or people can take away your
> material
> > possessions, they can take away your money, and
> they
> > can take away your health.  But no one can ever
> take
> > away your precious memories...  So, don't f orget
> to
> > make time and take the opportunities to make
> > memories everyday.  To everything there is a
> season
> > and a time to every purpose under heaven.  A
> friend
> > sent this to me to remind me of life.  Hope you
> > enjoy it.
> >
> > I HOPE YOU STILL TAKE THE TIME TO RUN THROUGH THE
> > RAIN.
> >
> > They say it takes a minute to find a special
> person,
> > an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them,
> but
> > then an entire life to forget them.  Send this to
> > the people you'll never forget and remember to
> also
> > send it to the person who sent it to you. It's a
> > short message to let them know that you'll never
> > forget them.
> >
> > If you don't send it to anyone, it means you're in
> a
> > hurry.
> >
> > Take the time to live!!!
> >
> > Keep in touch with your friends, you never know
> when
> > you'll need each other -- and don't forget to run
> in
> > the rain!
> >
> > God makes everything but unbreakable hearts.
> >
> >
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#45 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Thu Jun 9, 2005 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: Run Through the Rain - Or Walk...................................
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Dear Tom,
 
Thanks for your perspective.
 
I left the reference in, rather than editing it, because it make the story so realistic, and to me, the joy of the story being told truthfully from the heart, outweighed the commercial effect.
 
Kindly,
 
Dianne

Tom Salsberg <rgarden2222@...> wrote:
Actually, if you do not forward this to anyone, it
does not necessarily mean you are in too much of a
hurry.  It could mean that you do not wish to provide
free advertising to Wal-Mart.

Aloha,
Tom
http://www.TomSalsberg.com

--- Dianne Knight
<raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:

>
>
> Trefor Randall <lladnart2001@...> wrote:Date:
> Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Trefor Randall <lladnart2001@...>
> Subject: Or Walk...................................
> To: lladnart2001@...
>
>
> Run through the rain
>
> A little girl had been shopping with her Mom in
> Wal-Mart.  She must have been 6 years old, this
> beautiful red haired, freckle faced image of
> innocence.  It was pouring outside.  The kind of
> rain that gushes over the top of rain gutters, so
> much in a hurry to hit the earth it has no time to
> flow down the spout.
>
> We all stood there under the awning and just inside
> the door of the Wal-Mart. We waited, some patiently,
> others irritated because nature messed up their
> hurried day.  I am always mes merized by rainfall.
> I got lost in the sound and sight of the heavens
> washing away the dirt and dust of the world.
> Memories of running, splashing so carefree as a
> child came pouring in as a welcome reprieve from the
> worries of my day.
>
> The little voice was so sweet as it broke the
> hypnotic trance we were all caught in "Mom, let's
> run through the rain," she said.  "What?" Mom asked.
>  "Let 's run through the rain!" She repeated.  "No,
> honey.. We'll wait until it slows down a bit," Mom
> replied.  This young child waited about another
> minute and repeated: "Mom, let's run through the
> rain,"  "We'll get soaked if we do," Mom said.  "No,
> we won't, Mom. That's not what you said this
> morning," the young girl said as she tugged at her
> Mom's arm.
>
> This morning? When did I say we could run through
> the rain and not get wet?  "Don't you remember?
> When you were talking to Daddy about his cancer, you
> said, 'If God can get us through this, he can get us
> through anything!"
>
> The entire crowd stopped dead silent.  I swear you
> couldn't hear anything but the rain.  We all stood
> silently.  No one came or left in the next few
> minutes.  Mom paused and thought for a moment about
> what she would say.  Now some would laugh it off and
> scold her for being silly.  Some might even ignore
> what was said.  But this was a moment of affirmation
> in a young child's life.  A time when innocent trust
> can be nurtured so that it will bloom into faith.
> "Honey, you are absolutely right.  Let's run through
> the rain.  If GOD let's us get wet, well maybe we
> just needed washing,"  Mom said.
>
> Then off they ran.  We all stood watching, smiling
> and laughing as they darted past the cars and yes,
> through the puddles.  They held their shopping bags
> over their heads just in case.  They got soaked.
> But they were followed by a few who screamed and
> laughed like children all the way to their cars.
> And yes, I did.  I ran. I got wet.  I needed
> washing.
>
> Circumstances or people can take away your material
> possessions, they can take away your money, and they
> can take away your health.  But no one can ever take
> away your precious memories...  So, don't f orget to
> make time and take the opportunities to make
> memories everyday.  To everything there is a season
> and a time to every purpose under heaven.  A friend
> sent this to me to remind me of life.  Hope you
> enjoy it.
>
> I HOPE YOU STILL TAKE THE TIME TO RUN THROUGH THE
> RAIN.
>
> They say it takes a minute to find a special person,
> an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but
> then an entire life to forget them.  Send this to
> the people you'll never forget and remember to also
> send it to the person who sent it to you. It's a
> short message to let them know that you'll never
> forget them.
>
> If you don't send it to anyone, it means you're in a
> hurry.
>
> Take the time to live!!!
>
> Keep in touch with your friends, you never know when
> you'll need each other -- and don't forget to run in
> the rain!
>
> God makes everything but unbreakable hearts.
>
>
>
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#44 From: Tom Salsberg <rgarden2222@...>
Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 6:56 pm
Subject: Re: Run Through the Rain - Or Walk...................................
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Actually, if you do not forward this to anyone, it
does not necessarily mean you are in too much of a
hurry.  It could mean that you do not wish to provide
free advertising to Wal-Mart.

Aloha,
Tom
http://www.TomSalsberg.com

--- Dianne Knight
<raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:

>
>
> Trefor Randall <lladnart2001@...> wrote:Date:
> Tue, 7 Jun 2005 22:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Trefor Randall <lladnart2001@...>
> Subject: Or Walk...................................
> To: lladnart2001@...
>
>
> Run through the rain
>
> A little girl had been shopping with her Mom in
> Wal-Mart.  She must have been 6 years old, this
> beautiful red haired, freckle faced image of
> innocence.  It was pouring outside.  The kind of
> rain that gushes over the top of rain gutters, so
> much in a hurry to hit the earth it has no time to
> flow down the spout.
>
> We all stood there under the awning and just inside
> the door of the Wal-Mart. We waited, some patiently,
> others irritated because nature messed up their
> hurried day.  I am always mes merized by rainfall.
> I got lost in the sound and sight of the heavens
> washing away the dirt and dust of the world.
> Memories of running, splashing so carefree as a
> child came pouring in as a welcome reprieve from the
> worries of my day.
>
> The little voice was so sweet as it broke the
> hypnotic trance we were all caught in "Mom, let's
> run through the rain," she said.  "What?" Mom asked.
>  "Let 's run through the rain!" She repeated.  "No,
> honey.. We'll wait until it slows down a bit," Mom
> replied.  This young child waited about another
> minute and repeated: "Mom, let's run through the
> rain,"  "We'll get soaked if we do," Mom said.  "No,
> we won't, Mom. That's not what you said this
> morning," the young girl said as she tugged at her
> Mom's arm.
>
> This morning? When did I say we could run through
> the rain and not get wet?  "Don't you remember?
> When you were talking to Daddy about his cancer, you
> said, 'If God can get us through this, he can get us
> through anything!"
>
> The entire crowd stopped dead silent.  I swear you
> couldn't hear anything but the rain.  We all stood
> silently.  No one came or left in the next few
> minutes.  Mom paused and thought for a moment about
> what she would say.  Now some would laugh it off and
> scold her for being silly.  Some might even ignore
> what was said.  But this was a moment of affirmation
> in a young child's life.  A time when innocent trust
> can be nurtured so that it will bloom into faith.
> "Honey, you are absolutely right.  Let's run through
> the rain.  If GOD let's us get wet, well maybe we
> just needed washing,"  Mom said.
>
> Then off they ran.  We all stood watching, smiling
> and laughing as they darted past the cars and yes,
> through the puddles.  They held their shopping bags
> over their heads just in case.  They got soaked.
> But they were followed by a few who screamed and
> laughed like children all the way to their cars.
> And yes, I did.  I ran. I got wet.  I needed
> washing.
>
> Circumstances or people can take away your material
> possessions, they can take away your money, and they
> can take away your health.  But no one can ever take
> away your precious memories...  So, don't f orget to
> make time and take the opportunities to make
> memories everyday.  To everything there is a season
> and a time to every purpose under heaven.  A friend
> sent this to me to remind me of life.  Hope you
> enjoy it.
>
> I HOPE YOU STILL TAKE THE TIME TO RUN THROUGH THE
> RAIN.
>
> They say it takes a minute to find a special person,
> an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but
> then an entire life to forget them.  Send this to
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> Take the time to live!!!
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Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: Raw Potluck on Saturday, June 11th @ 6pm
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Hi Folks,
 
Just to let you know, not all dishes are 'prepared'. There are folks that will bring fresh fruit and vegetable that can be consumed.
 
Dale, aka the 'apple guy' who works with Plan B Organics usually comes and he brings freshly picked apples and apple cider as well as wild vegetable that are not prepared/processed in any way.Sometimes, the produce that he brings is picked the same day or the day before!
 
If a dish is prepared, all of the ingredients are listed for everyone's information. The raw foodist that attend normally prepare the dish immediately before they arrive or even prepare it after they have arrived.
 
Many people are not raw foodist and are interested in what forms of raw foodism is out there. We have an information table to provide education and other information. This would be a good opportunity for the Natural Hygene group to let everyone know what, 'natural hygene' is all about!
 
Plus it is a good social opportunity to mix with other raw foodists and lots of fun generally! Hope you can make it!
 
Garry

Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
 
Thank you for the invitation Garry.
 
Just to fully inform people, here are as few guidelines.
 
As Natural Hygienists, we regard these generally accepted raw potlucks as "transitional" to our health-building ways. They are great for socializing with similar-minded people (organic raw vegans).
 
However, many of us cannot tolerate salt, sea salt, spices and other condiments, which are irritants and destroy the natural flavours of everything they touch, and as hygienists, we refrain from poor food combinations and have no more than four foods at a meal for our best health through maximum digestibility.
 
And another critical point that we observe is oxidation. Dr. Herbert M. Shelton writes in Superior Nutrition, p.78,
Fruits and vegetables are surrounded with a tough outer capsule or skin that is designed as an effective barrier against oxidation. But when this is broken, or the fruits and vegetables are cut or peeled, this permits oxygen to reach their inner and now unprotected structures, so that, they begin immediately to oxidize, consequently to lose food value.
So if foods are "prepared" for these "tasty" meals, how much have we really lost in their quality before they are even served?
 
And how well can we build and repair our own bodies' healthy cells the very best with oxidized foods? 
 
All the best,
 
Dianne

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Hi Folks,

This coming Saturday is the Second Saturday of the Month! That means raw potluck day!

Saturday, June 11th. Potluck at the Meeting/Party Room of the Kensington Market Lofts
Building (Where I live), 21 Nassau St in Kensington Market, west of Spadina Ave. Here's a
link to a map:

http://www.kensingtonmarketlofts.com/map.htm

Aim to arrive around 6pm; food starts at 7pm. If the weather is nice, we can eat outside.

There will be people from several raw food groups, including from TVA Raw, (the former)
Raw Food Meetup, Vegan Meetup, & other Raw folks.

The party room can hold more than 100. EVERYONE'S WELCOME - FEEL FREE TO BRING
FAMILY, FRIENDS & ACQUAINTANCES. All are welcome! 

No need to RSVP to me. However, you may sign up for the Yahoo.ca's Toronto Vegetarians
group and let us know there:

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/torontovegetarians

Information about this and other events is also available from the Toronto Vegetarian
Association's website:

http://www.veg.ca

Hope to see you Saturday!

Garry



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Date: Wed Jun 8, 2005 2:08 pm
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Run through the rain

A little girl had been shopping with her Mom in Wal-Mart.  She must have been 6 years old, this beautiful red haired, freckle faced image of innocence.  It was pouring outside.  The kind of rain that gushes over the top of rain gutters, so much in a hurry to hit the earth it has no time to flow down the spout.

We all stood there under the awning and just inside the door of the Wal-Mart. We waited, some patiently, others irritated because nature messed up their hurried day.  I am always mes merized by rainfall.  I got lost in the sound and sight of the heavens washing away the dirt and dust of the world.  Memories of running, splashing so carefree as a child came pouring in as a welcome reprieve from the worries of my day.

The little voice was so sweet as it broke the hypnotic trance we were all caught in "Mom, let's run through the rain," she said.  "What?" Mom asked.  "Let 's run through the rain!" She repeated.  "No, honey.. We'll wait until it slows down a bit," Mom replied.  This young child waited about another minute and repeated: "Mom, let's run through the rain,"  "We'll get soaked if we do," Mom said.  "No, we won't, Mom. That's not what you said this morning," the young girl said as she tugged at her Mom's arm.

This morning? When did I say we could run through the rain and not get wet?  "Don't you remember?  When you were talking to Daddy about his cancer, you said, 'If God can get us through this, he can get us through anything!"

The entire crowd stopped dead silent.  I swear you couldn't hear anything but the rain.  We all stood silently.  No one came or left in the next few minutes.  Mom paused and thought for a moment about what she would say.  Now some would laugh it off and scold her for being silly.  Some might even ignore what was said.  But this was a moment of affirmation in a young child's life.  A time when innocent trust can be nurtured so that it will bloom into faith.  "Honey, you are absolutely right.  Let's run through the rain.  If GOD let's us get wet, well maybe we just needed washing,"  Mom said.

Then off they ran.  We all stood watching, smiling and laughing as they darted past the cars and yes, through the puddles.  They held their shopping bags over their heads just in case.  They got soaked.  But they were followed by a few who screamed and laughed like children all the way to their cars.  And yes, I did.  I ran. I got wet.  I needed washing.

Circumstances or people can take away your material possessions, they can take away your money, and they can take away your health.  But no one can ever take away your precious memories...  So, don't f orget to make time and take the opportunities to make memories everyday.  To everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven.  A friend sent this to me to remind me of life.  Hope you enjoy it.

I HOPE YOU STILL TAKE THE TIME TO RUN THROUGH THE RAIN.

They say it takes a minute to find a special person, an hour to appreciate them, a day to love them, but then an entire life to forget them.  Send this to the people you'll never forget and remember to also send it to the person who sent it to you. It's a short message to let them know that you'll never forget them.

If you don't send it to anyone, it means you're in a hurry.

Take the time to live!!!

Keep in touch with your friends, you never know when you'll need each other -- and don't forget to run in the rain!

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#41 From: Tim Campbell <timcall@...>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: The case against colonics
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Though I am in agreement with the author that regular, frequent colonics are perhaps not good for the colon, I have for 32 years benefitted from occasional colonics. I have found them to be particularly helpful during or toward the end of a fast. And I have also found coffee enemas to be a powerful help in maintaining good liver health.
 
Be Well, All,
Tim

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mark.ansara@... wrote:
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 06:52:25 -0600
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To: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Subject: The case against colonics


Dear Dianne:

As I promised, here is my article reviewing the case against the use of
colonics and enemas. This is largely based upon Dr. Shelton's teachings on
this subject, although some of it is my own reasoning and the result of
brainstorming with you. I think that it pretty well summarizes the arguments
and position of Natural Hygiene on this subject.

To begin with, colonic irrigation poses a risk of damaging the colon: there is
a possibility of the pressure puncturing the wall of the colon. This would
result in infection occurring and it may well prove fatal to the victim. I
admit that in the hands of an experienced therapist, such risks are small, but
I have always felt that it is wise to avoid unnecessary risks.

Secondly, as we have discussed, enemas and colonics may force waste back up
into the small intestine, where the toxic wastes may be absorbed into the
body. Let us remember that by the time feces reach this stage, the waste is
already in a much more advanced state of decay than earlier in its passage
through the bowels. Therefore, it is much more toxic and dangerous than
previously. This fact should indicate that colonics are a potentially
dangerous procedure, despite the benefits claimed by their proponents.

Thirdly, some colon therapists use various substances (other than plain water)
for the colonic. An example that comes to mind is the coffee enema. These
therapists claim additional benefits from the use of these substances. As a
hygienist, I would point out that such substances are in themselves toxic, and
if there is any apparent benefit to using them, that is a sure indication of
toxic effects in the body. This is on the principle that only the living body
can act, and the inert, lifeless substances that we use as stimulants are
incapable of performing any actions; thus, the stimulation is the result of
bodily action, not drug or stimulant action, which is a myth. Introducing
more toxic substances into the body cannot have any benefits, only toxic side-
effects.

Next, let me mention that a former friend of mine, who believed in colonics
and had undergone at least one such treatment, reported feeling much cleaner
and having much more energy following the treatment. As stated, this is an
indication of stimulation. The principle is the same as taking drugs as
stimulants: one takes a drug or a treatment in the belief that it will make
one feel better, and this is the immediate and short-term result. However, we
must remember the Law of Dual Effect: that any stimulation has a two-fold and
opposite effect: the short-term effect of stimulation, followed by the
long-term and more profound effect of depression or enervation. Again, to
understand this effect, we must remember that the stimulant does not act upon
the body - it is the body which acts. When a toxic substance enters its
domain, the body will act to expel it. This requires that the already
enervated body expend precious energy, thus ultimately leaving it more
enervated than before. Incidentally, a check of medical textbooks reveals that
the repeated and long-term use of enemas has one major side-effect:
constipation. This is logical in view of what I just said about profound
enervation; the colon is left in a greatly enervated state and is less able to
function normally than before.

I might add here that any treatment of this kind is basically irrational:
treating of symptoms and ignoring causes. This is the approach of medicine,
and represents the exact opposite of the rational approach to disease. The
hygienic way, which is tested and proven, is to ignore symptoms and remove
causes. That way, the symptoms (effects) will disappear of their own accord;
no specific treatment is necessary. (And as a bonus there are no side-effects.)

Dr. Shelton mentions a couple of other problems with this sort of treatment.
He states that colonics tend to weaken the walls of the colon. He also
indicates another side-effect of this treatment: visceroptosis, or the descent
of the viscera, i.e., the internal organs and structures of the body. It is
easy to see that this may cause other problems due to pressure on the organs
that are no longer in their normal positions. (This refers to many different
organs, not just the bowels.) Incidentally, Shelton denies the validity of
X-ray photos of the colon showing it heavily impacted with uneliminated fecal
matter, such as were used by advocates of colonic irrigation like Dr. Norman
Walker. He says that this is merely a fantasy, and he had a medical doctor who
backed him up on this point, saying that they do not see indications of such a
phenomenon during autopsies.

In summary, I think that we must conclude that the use of enemas and colonics
is not justified by a consideration of all of the facts. I also wish to point
out that an enervated organ needs rest, not stimulation or treatment. It is
best to leave it alone and let nature take its course. This is the position of
Natural Hygiene, and it has proven to the wisest course through the long
history of the movement.

Sincerely,

Mark Ansara

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Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 3:27 pm
Subject: Fwd: The case against colonics
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Subject: The case against colonics


Dear Dianne:

As I promised, here is my article reviewing the case against the use of
colonics and enemas. This is largely based upon Dr. Shelton's teachings on
this subject, although some of it is my own reasoning and the result of
brainstorming with you. I think that it pretty well summarizes the arguments
and position of Natural Hygiene on this subject.

To begin with, colonic irrigation poses a risk of damaging the colon: there is
a possibility of the pressure puncturing the wall of the colon. This would
result in infection occurring and it may well prove fatal to the victim. I
admit that in the hands of an experienced therapist, such risks are small, but
I have always felt that it is wise to avoid unnecessary risks.

Secondly, as we have discussed, enemas and colonics may force waste back up
into the small intestine, where the toxic wastes may be absorbed into the
body. Let us remember that by the time feces reach this stage, the waste is
already in a much more advanced state of decay than earlier in its passage
through the bowels. Therefore, it is much more toxic and dangerous than
previously. This fact should indicate that colonics are a potentially
dangerous procedure, despite the benefits claimed by their proponents.

Thirdly, some colon therapists use various substances (other than plain water)
for the colonic. An example that comes to mind is the coffee enema. These
therapists claim additional benefits from the use of these substances. As a
hygienist, I would point out that such substances are in themselves toxic, and
if there is any apparent benefit to using them, that is a sure indication of
toxic effects in the body. This is on the principle that only the living body
can act, and the inert, lifeless substances that we use as stimulants are
incapable of performing any actions; thus, the stimulation is the result of
bodily action, not drug or stimulant action, which is a myth. Introducing
more toxic substances into the body cannot have any benefits, only toxic side-
effects.

Next, let me mention that a former friend of mine, who believed in colonics
and had undergone at least one such treatment, reported feeling much cleaner
and having much more energy following the treatment. As stated, this is an
indication of stimulation. The principle is the same as taking drugs as
stimulants: one takes a drug or a treatment in the belief that it will make
one feel better, and this is the immediate and short-term result. However, we
must remember the Law of Dual Effect: that any stimulation has a two-fold and
opposite effect: the short-term effect of stimulation, followed by the
long-term and more profound effect of depression or enervation. Again, to
understand this effect, we must remember that the stimulant does not act upon
the body - it is the body which acts. When a toxic substance enters its
domain, the body will act to expel it. This requires that the already
enervated body expend precious energy, thus ultimately leaving it more
enervated than before. Incidentally, a check of medical textbooks reveals that
the repeated and long-term use of enemas has one major side-effect:
constipation. This is logical in view of what I just said about profound
enervation; the colon is left in a greatly enervated state and is less able to
function normally than before.

I might add here that any treatment of this kind is basically irrational:
treating of symptoms and ignoring causes. This is the approach of medicine,
and represents the exact opposite of the rational approach to disease. The
hygienic way, which is tested and proven, is to ignore symptoms and remove
causes. That way, the symptoms (effects) will disappear of their own accord;
no specific treatment is necessary. (And as a bonus there are no side-effects.)

Dr. Shelton mentions a couple of other problems with this sort of treatment.
He states that colonics tend to weaken the walls of the colon. He also
indicates another side-effect of this treatment: visceroptosis, or the descent
of the viscera, i.e., the internal organs and structures of the body. It is
easy to see that this may cause other problems due to pressure on the organs
that are no longer in their normal positions. (This refers to many different
organs, not just the bowels.) Incidentally, Shelton denies the validity of
X-ray photos of the colon showing it heavily impacted with uneliminated fecal
matter, such as were used by advocates of colonic irrigation like Dr. Norman
Walker. He says that this is merely a fantasy, and he had a medical doctor who
backed him up on this point, saying that they do not see indications of such a
phenomenon during autopsies.

In summary, I think that we must conclude that the use of enemas and colonics
is not justified by a consideration of all of the facts. I also wish to point
out that an enervated organ needs rest, not stimulation or treatment. It is
best to leave it alone and let nature take its course. This is the position of
Natural Hygiene, and it has proven to the wisest course through the long
history of the movement.

Sincerely,

Mark Ansara

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Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 3:21 pm
Subject: Fwd: Here's Shelton's article on epilepsy
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Dear Dianne:

As you requested, here is the copy of Dr. Shelton's article on epilepsy from
my Shelton articles database. I think that it is very good. . . .

Sincerely,

Mark Ansara 

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        17) “Growing Out of Epilepsy,” by Dr. Herbert M. Shelton

 Source: Dr. Shelton’s Hygienic Review,

               Vol. 1, No. 4, Dec. 1939

 

The layman calls epilepsy, “fits,” “seizures” and “falling sickness.” The ancients called it the “sacred disease” and left its care in the hands of the priests rather than in that of the physicians. At one period the ancients thought epilepsy was due to evil spirits that had gained control of the body of the victim. Today the medical profession admits that the cause of epilepsy is still unknown, while treatment, which is highly unsatisfactory, is confined to suppression of its symptoms. The disease is considered incurable. We are not willing to admit either that the cause is unknown, or that it is incurable.     

 

Epilepsy belongs to that group of maladies called neuroses, or nervous affections. It is characterized by periodic convulsive paroxysms, due to functional derangements of a reflex nature. Pathologists have sought the cause of epilepsy in post-mortem studies of epileptics, but have not found it due to the fact that the examination of an organ after death does not show functional derangement and cannot show the reflex irritations that throw the patient into convulsions.

 

One  form  of  epilepsy  known  as  “Jacksonian,”   is conceded to be due

to  injury  (trauma).  This  type  is  characterized  by  being  confined  to

one-half of the body; either the right side, or the left side. The muscular spasms are more or less severe, but the patient does not lose consciousness. He is a witness to his own spasms. This type of epilepsy is rare.

 

The common form of the disease is divided into two general types. The more  severe  form,  which the layman calls “falling sickness,”  is known

as  “Epilepsia Gravior,”  or  grand mal.   In  this  form  the  patient  falls

without  sufficient  warning  to  protect  himself.    These  are  the   cases

where  consciousness   is  wholly  lost   and  the  convulsions  are  usually

severe;   although  there  are  cases  where  consciousness  is  wholly  lost

and  the  convulsive  movements  are  slight – more of a stiffening of  the

muscles – and there are cases where consciousness is not lost. These patients may fall on the street before a car or other passing vehicle, or in some other place that may cause them severe injury. One form of this severe type of epilepsy is the nocturnal type. This is the safer form, for the patient has his convulsions at night while asleep in bed.

 

The light form of epilepsy is known as “Epilepsia Mitior,” or petit mal. Convulsions in these cases may be very mild, last less than half a minute, the momentary loss of consciousness not being enough for the patient to fall, if standing, nor to lose the trend of conversation. Or this form may be characterized by staggering and confusion and the sufferer may not be able to resume the conversation in which he was previously engaged until he is reminded of the subject. The lighter form may gradually develop into the severer form if its causes are not removed.

 

There is nothing resembling regularity in the development of epileptic convulsions. In some cases they often occur in “bouts,” one, or two or three taking place every few days, or they may be separated from each other by weeks, sometimes by months, and occasionally by years. A patient may have two or three sets of fits in a week or in a month and have none the following week or month.   

   

It is said that the light and severe types of the disease may exist at the same time. But this does not mean that the patient has two diseases, two epilepsies. It only means that he has both light and severe paroxysms. The light form may exist for years without a severe “seizure,” or the severe form may persist for years without a severe “attack,” or light and severe convulsions may alternate.

 

In the light form, petit mal, the patient may have a half-a-dozen or a dozen convulsions in a day. Indeed he may become so intensely sensitive that he has as many convulsions in an hour. He may be so sensitive that the slightest shock or irritation out of the regular routine may cause a momentary loss of consciousness. Such a patient may suffer a severe convulsion every two to four weeks, or at shorter and longer intervals.

 

In the severe form, grand mal, the convulsion is preceded by a short cry or shriek, like a cry of distress. The patient usually falls forward on his face, which is often injured. It is no uncommon thing for these patients to fall on a stove and be badly burned. Due to the spasmodic contractions of the muscles of the jaw, these patients often severely bite the tongue. In frequent cases the tonic contraction of the jaw muscles is so severe that the jaw is set, and, due to the setting or spasmodic contraction of the muscles of the chest, breathing is suspended for half a minute.

 

Due to suspended respiration and even circulation, the face, which at first is pale, turns red, livid, then purple, and, at times, almost black. The pulse becomes very rapid and the pupils dilate. Indeed there is over-dilatation of the pupils in all forms of epilepsy, as in many other nervous diseases.

 

Because the muscles on one side of the body are affected more than those of the other side, the head is turned to one or the other shoulder in a jerking way. The eyes roll and have a wild expression. The cheeks as well as the tongue are often severely bitten. In severe cases there is always foaming at the mouth, the foam being tinged with blood from tongue or cheek. Breathing is stertorous and these cases are often mistaken for apoplexy or drunkenness. There have been cases in which bones were broken or dislocated, so severe were the muscular contractions. Often the sphincters relax and there is involuntary emptying of the bladder and colon.

 

The “seizure” may last from a few seconds to a half-hour. One, two, or three dozen convulsions may be required before calm is restored to the nervous system. In cases where dozens are required the patient may die of rupture of blood vessels in the brain (apoplexy), rupture of the heart, uremic coma, shock, or from too long suspension of the vital functions by the prolonged tonic spasm, so that vital activities cannot be resumed after it has passed off.         

 

When the convulsion subsides, the body relaxes, consciousness returns and the patient may fall into a deep sleep that may last for several hours. Upon awakening, if the convulsions have not been too prolonged, the patient may appear quite well, and except for a tired feeling and muscular soreness, may feel well. Indeed many cases recover from the convulsions in a few minutes and immediately resume their regular activities, as though nothing had occurred.

 

In cases where the convulsions last several minutes the patient is worn out and, even though he sleeps heavily for some time after the spasms cease, he may be tired and his muscles be stiff and bruised and his tongue sore, for several days afterward. In the more severe cases the patient may recover from the convulsions very excited and lapse into a severe form of mania, which lasts one or two days, ending in death; or he may go on living but requiring constant attention and attendance, due to the mental derangement.

 

The functional characteristic in all forms of epilepsy is a lack of nervous stability.   The  man  with  a normal nervous system is  able  to  perform

the functions of life    walking,  thinking,  eating, digesting, eliminating,

etc. – to mingle with people and amicably adjust himself to society. In actual life we meet with all degrees of nervous coordination or balance, ranging from a solid, stable state to one of marked instability – one easily thrown off balance.

 

In the epileptic we see a nervous system that is very unstable, one that is very sensitive to irritations and is thrown out of balance by things that the normal nervous system easily adjusts itself to or successfully resists. Epileptics are all neurotic. They lack strong central nervous control. When their nerve energy is drawn upon beyond a certain variable limit, they lose coordination and control. The whole motor nervous system becomes “insane.”

 

Epilepsy is said by many to be hereditary, while others claim that only the neurotic diathesis (tendency to nervous diseases) is hereditary. In view of our present knowledge of heredity, it is probable that both of these views are wrong. It is more probable that the nervous deficiency that constitutes the neurotic diathesis is the outcome of nutritive deficiencies before and after birth. Stable nervous systems cannot be built out of inadequate nutrition and we have enough clinical and experimental evidence to show that certain food deficiencies in the young, growing organism produce nervous impairment and convulsions. Unfortunately, most of the old ideas about hereditary disease, which were developed before we knew anything about either heredity or the effects of dietary deficiencies, persist in spite of our increased knowledge of these subjects.

 

Convulsions in infants and children with unstable nervous systems are frequently seen. Slight irritations, such as indigestion, a heavy meal, too much exercise, or being chilled, may bring on convulsions in some children. Undoubtedly, these are the children that give us most of our cases of epilepsy. 

I have not cared for a single case of epilepsy in the whole of my professional career whose parents or grandparents had the disease or who had brothers or sisters who similarly suffered. I long ago came to the conclusion that no disease is hereditary.

 

In all cases of epilepsy, except the few in which injuries to the head have caused depressed fractures and other anatomical defects, there are enough errors of life practiced to account for the disease without calling in predestination or election to help explain the pitiable plight of the sufferer.

 

To  develop   epilepsy   there  must  first   be  a  very   unstable   nervous

system,   one   easily   thrown   out   of   balance.    The  individual  must,

then,   be  subjected  to  influences  that bring on a  pronounced  type  of

enervation – lowered nervous energy. Enervation checks elimination, producing toxemia. This rapidly forces the nervous system into a pronounced state of lost resistance. It is then that it becomes so sensitive that unusual irritations of any nature or a slight increase of an accustomed irritation may cause a breaking up of nerve balance, a temporary loss of coordinating power.

 

The epileptic subject may be thrown into convulsions by overeating, improper eating, toothache, earache, or any pain, sexual indulgence, anger, sorrow, joy, overwork or overplay, excitement, adenoids, colds; in fact by any undue nervous strain. One case I cared for was thrown into a violent fit of convulsions by the application of an electric needle to the roots of some superfluous hair on the face.

 

Once the epileptic habit (reaction pattern, to employ a psychological term) is established, very little more irritation than one is accustomed to in daily life is enough to throw the subject into a fit. Often an unaccustomed harsh sound, a sharp word, or a slight disappointment is enough to overcome the slight resistance and bring on a convulsion.

 

Emotional over-irritation and lack of emotional control quickly impair the nervous system and these may also precipitate a convulsion. Psychic shock and lack of emotional poise contribute to the production and continuance of practically all so-called diseases.

 

Perhaps the commonest cause of epileptic convulsions is poisoning or putrefaction generated by gastro-intestinal decomposition. Too much sugar or meat often causes enough decomposition or poisoning to bring on epileptic convulsions. I recall a case which I helped care for in 1920. The epilepsy was in a young man of about twenty-five years. He had been afflicted but four or five years. We placed him on a milk diet. We soon discovered that he could take as much as six quarts of milk a day with safety, but as sure as he received seven quarts he had a fit of convulsions. We also found that he could take milk for six days and fast on the seventh and go along apparently indefinitely without a seizure, but as sure as he was allowed to have milk on the seventh day he would have one or two fits. 

 

Always, in this case, as in many others, there was a sense of distress in the abdomen before the convulsions began. In this connection let me tell of another patient who would have actual pain in the left side of the pelvic abdomen preceding each convulsion. Any irritation – any disease capable of causing reflex irritation – in those subject to epilepsy will dissolve coordinating power and bring on convulsions. Eyestrain may excite an “attack” of epilepsy.

 

Most physicians concede that epileptic convulsions are precipitated by gastro-intestinal derangement – indigestion, gastric hyperacidity, intestinal fermentation, and constipation – even by very slight deviations from normal at any period of the digestive cycle.

 

The nervous tension produced by gambling, or by bucket-shop operations, is enough to produce epilepsy and if these things are continued, to prevent recovery. The petty thief, the smuggler, the hypocrite, the juggler of accounts, the liar, and the cheat, all if subject to epileptic convulsions, pay for their dishonesty by fits.

 

With an understanding of the causes of epilepsy its cure becomes evident. And the disease is curable. Practically every sufferer from epilepsy, who reads this article, may be restored to sound health and may remain free of convulsions.

 

The prevailing mode of treatment is such a consistent failure that one can only wonder why it is persisted in. It fritters away valuable time palliating symptoms and, due to its use of the bromides and other nerve paralyzing drugs, commonly renders the condition of the nervous system worse. Physicians frequently operate for phimosis, or remove adenoids and enlarged tonsils, or extract teeth, remove bony growths from the nose, castrate the female, operate for varicocele in the male, and fit glasses to the eyes, on the theory that these symptoms are the causes of epilepsy.

 

That reflex irritations from these things may precipitate a convulsion we have already explained, but these small afflictions are only local outgrowths of the same nervous impairment and toxemia, which form the basic cause of epilepsy; and unless this basic cause of all of these troubles is removed the patient will continue to have epilepsy. If the basic cause is removed, not only does the patient recover from epilepsy, but he recovers from the other troubles as well.

 

Tumor of the womb, ovary or tube may cause enough nervous irritation in women to dissolve coordination. In such cases, surgical removal of the tumor or of the affected organs may result in temporary respite from epileptic convulsions. However, since the surgical procedure does not remove the basic cause of epilepsy and of the source of reflex irritation, this cause, sooner or later, evolves another or other sources of reflex irritation so that the apparently cured epilepsy recurs.

 

Getting rid of any local “disease” by surgical removal of the diseased part, removes an exciting cause, but unless the constitutional derangement is removed the epilepsy will remain and other sources of reflex irritation will subsequently develop. Fitting glasses to the eyes is only palliative; it offers temporary relief; but it does not correct the primary derangement that permitted the eyestrain to develop.

 

Only by going back of these minor ailments and correcting all of the causes of ill health, can we ever hope to succeed in remedying epilepsy. It is necessary to get rid of the enervation and toxemia and to remove all of the causes of these. The whole body must be put in a state of health and maintained in this state.

 

As a matter of physical and mental economy, there must be a general reform in all physical and mental habits. The epileptic must stop all abuse of the body and mind. All enervating habits must be discontinued at once and permanently. Doctors who attempt to cure disease without correcting enervating habits and who treat patients for “specific diseases,” while ignoring a manner of living that makes cure impossible, will never succeed in remedying epilepsy or any other disease in their patient.

 

It is necessary in all cases to avoid the causes of disease. Since the cause of epilepsy is often subtle, uncertain, and obscure, both the doctor and the patient should attempt to find and remove or correct all and every enervating habit or influence, however insignificant it may appear. The plan of living should be put upon a rigidly economic basis and nerve energy conserved as much as possible.

 

Sensualism must be controlled. Sex abuse, both mental and physical, must be given up forever. Libertines and masturbators cannot be cured of epilepsy until cured of their wasteful sex habits. Those who constantly excite their sex functions mentally, even if they do not resort to overt sexual acts, will also fail to recover until they have educated themselves out of this bad habit.

 

Tobacco, tea, coffee, alcohol and like poisons lower nerve-tone and help to produce and perpetuate epilepsy. Until all poison habits are completely abandoned, the sufferer need not expect to recover.

 

Gross eating habits must be broken. Gluttony, irritating foods and condiments and too “rich” foods help to produce enervation and toxemia and are often the causes of the irritation that precipitates a convulsion. The putrefaction and constipation that grow out of gross eating habits are recognized as “causes” of epilepsy.

 

Since gastro-intestinal derangements are so nearly uniformly precedent to epileptic seizures, it is folly to look for good results in these cases without giving due attention to the amount, kind, and combination of food eaten.

 

Everything capable of producing reflex irritation must be overcome in order to overcome the convulsion habit. This is not to be done by cutting off a tight prepuce, saddling the nose with eye-crutches, removing the gallbladder or womb, etc., and by taking cathartics; but by restoring the whole body and all of its parts to good health.

 

It is often necessary to get away from family influences, for the epileptic who is pampered and indulged and weakened by misdirected sympathy cannot get well. He must learn to stand on his own.

 

Among the treatments employed by the ancients in the care of epileptics were fasting and prayer. On one occasion, when the disciples of Jesus, wanted to know why they had failed in their effort to cast out a “devil” from an epileptic, he told them “this kind cometh not out save by fasting and prayer.” There is nothing of more immediate benefit to the epileptic patient than fasting, while the mental calm often produced by prayer is a great aid to restoration of poise.

 

Every case of epilepsy should be given a long fast as the surest and most rapid means of freeing the body of excess food and of its toxic overload. This will also quickly remedy nearly all of the common sources of reflex irritation. Since the most common source of irritation is the digestive tract, nothing can more speedily benefit these patients than a properly conducted fast.

 

A few years ago Drs. Lenox and Cobb, of the Harvard University Medical School, conducted fasts, ranging in duration from four to twenty-one days, in twenty-seven cases of epilepsy. Their reports showed that these patients experienced improvement during the fasts, although their “seizures” recurred after the fasts. In the majority of cases, convulsions were entirely absent, or greatly reduced during the fast, but only in one case was there any permanent effect on the “seizures.” These men suggest that if the fast should be given early enough in the disease, before the convulsion habit has been established, results would be more encouraging.

 

Since their results are not in line with the results of those of us who regularly use fasting in this and other troubles, we must seek an explanation for their partial failure in some other direction than that of the advanced stage of the disease.

 

We cannot overlook the fact that most of their fasts were not long enough to give complete results. A fast of four, five, or six days is never long enough to rid the body of toxins and to clear away the sources of reflex irritation. Such short fasts would never remedy a chronically inflamed gallbladder or ovary. It is rarely enough to make any appreciable difference in bowel function, or to greatly improve digestion in cases of long-standing digestive derangement.      

 

The epileptic patient is particularly susceptible to digestive upsets and, as pointed out above, it is folly to expect permanent results in these cases, unless the fast is followed by careful attention to the amount, kind and combinations of foods given. If the patient is taught how to eat, what to eat, when to eat or not to eat, and how much to eat, this will eventually lead to complete recovery. But if the same kind, quantity and quality of food are permitted after the fast that the patient was in the habit of eating before the fast, there will be no recovery.  

 

It has been shown that excess nitrogen (protein) increases the frequency of paroxysms in epilepsy, whereas, an increase in bases (alkaline salts) reduces them. One egg added to the daily diet of children predisposed to spasmodic affections will give rise to spasms. When the eggs are removed from the diet the child promptly becomes normal.

 

In all cases of nervous impairment – epilepsy, chronic melancholia, neurasthenia, etc. – “acidosis” arises more quickly and has more powerful effects. It is undoubtedly the weakness and derangement of the nervous system in such cases that permits the earlier development of “acidosis” and that explains why the “acidosis” has such a powerful effect. “Acidosis” is especially likely to precipitate an epileptic paroxysm at night, for then the reaction of the blood is physiologically less strongly alkaline than during the day.

 

The weakness and derangement of the nervous system in epilepsy renders care in feeding all the more necessary and makes it equally necessary to avoid shock, emotional strain, over-stimulation, excesses, extreme exposure, and all other influences that tax or weaken the nervous system.

 

Finally, if all the enervating and irritating habits and influences enumerated above are not corrected and removed, these will keep up enough nervous irritation, digestive derangement and excretory inhibition to prevent recovery.

 

It is, of course, true that the longer the causes of epilepsy have been allowed to run, the harder it is to correct. The nervous system may ultimately become so non-resistant to irritation and the habit of convulsive repetition so firmly established, that the slightest irritating influence may unbalance coordination and initiate convulsions. It is wise, therefore, to begin the care of these cases at the very beginning and we have a right to expect better and faster results than years later, when the disease is well established. Those are most benefited by fasting whose general state is not shattered by the long-continued use of drugs and by psychic shock.

 

But whether the case is taken early or late, we should not lose sight of the fact that it takes time to overcome toxemia and enervation, and still more time for the nervous system to evolve out of the habit of falling into temporary states of lost coordination. How can we expect this to occur during a few days of fasting?

 

Rest  is  necessary  to restore nervous poise and this cannot  be  obtained

so  long  as there  is  any nervous irritation from any source.   Emotional

over-irritation – worry, anger, jealousy, apprehension, fear, etc.; poison habits – tea, coffee, tobacco, alcohol, headache “remedies,” constipation “cures,” etc.; excesses – gluttony, sensuality, overwork, overplay, etc.; and the deficiencies – lack of fresh air, lack of sunshine, indolence, etc.; all aid in building and maintaining the constitutional derangement that is back of epilepsy. Any program of care that ignores these will inevitably fail. 

 

The patient who returns to gluttony, sensuality, inebriety, gambling, and to his former excesses and dissipations, after he has been restored to health, will again break down his health and is likely to redevelop epilepsy. There is no cure of disease outside of removal of cause and there is no prevention of disease save by avoiding its causes.

 




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#38 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 3:50 am
Subject: Re: Raw Potluck on Saturday, June 11th @ 6pm
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Hi Everyone,
 
Thank you for the invitation Garry.
 
Just to fully inform people, here are as few guidelines.
 
As Natural Hygienists, we regard these generally accepted raw potlucks as "transitional" to our health-building ways. They are great for socializing with similar-minded people (organic raw vegans).
 
However, many of us cannot tolerate salt, sea salt, spices and other condiments, which are irritants and destroy the natural flavours of everything they touch, and as hygienists, we refrain from poor food combinations and have no more than four foods at a meal for our best health through maximum digestibility.
 
And another critical point that we observe is oxidation. Dr. Herbert M. Shelton writes in Superior Nutrition, p.78,
Fruits and vegetables are surrounded with a tough outer capsule or skin that is designed as an effective barrier against oxidation. But when this is broken, or the fruits and vegetables are cut or peeled, this permits oxygen to reach their inner and now unprotected structures, so that, they begin immediately to oxidize, consequently to lose food value.
So if foods are "prepared" for these "tasty" meals, how much have we really lost in their quality before they are even served?
 
And how well can we build and repair our own bodies' healthy cells the very best with oxidized foods? 
 
All the best,
 
Dianne

garrychoo <garrychoo@...> wrote:
Hi Folks,

This coming Saturday is the Second Saturday of the Month! That means raw potluck day!

Saturday, June 11th. Potluck at the Meeting/Party Room of the Kensington Market Lofts
Building (Where I live), 21 Nassau St in Kensington Market, west of Spadina Ave. Here's a
link to a map:

http://www.kensingtonmarketlofts.com/map.htm

Aim to arrive around 6pm; food starts at 7pm. If the weather is nice, we can eat outside.

There will be people from several raw food groups, including from TVA Raw, (the former)
Raw Food Meetup, Vegan Meetup, & other Raw folks.

The party room can hold more than 100. EVERYONE'S WELCOME - FEEL FREE TO BRING
FAMILY, FRIENDS & ACQUAINTANCES. All are welcome! 

No need to RSVP to me. However, you may sign up for the Yahoo.ca's Toronto Vegetarians
group and let us know there:

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/torontovegetarians

Information about this and other events is also available from the Toronto Vegetarian
Association's website:

http://www.veg.ca

Hope to see you Saturday!

Garry



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#37 From: "garrychoo" <garrychoo@...>
Date: Tue Jun 7, 2005 2:46 am
Subject: Raw Potluck on Saturday, June 11th @ 6pm
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Hi Folks,

This coming Saturday is the Second Saturday of the Month! That means raw potluck
day!

Saturday, June 11th. Potluck at the Meeting/Party Room of the Kensington Market
Lofts
Building (Where I live), 21 Nassau St in Kensington Market, west of Spadina
Ave. Here's a
link to a map:

http://www.kensingtonmarketlofts.com/map.htm

Aim to arrive around 6pm; food starts at 7pm. If the weather is nice, we can eat
outside.

There will be people from several raw food groups, including from TVA Raw, (the
former)
Raw Food Meetup, Vegan Meetup, & other Raw folks.

The party room can hold more than 100. EVERYONE'S WELCOME - FEEL FREE TO BRING
FAMILY, FRIENDS & ACQUAINTANCES. All are welcome! 

No need to RSVP to me. However, you may sign up for the Yahoo.ca's Toronto
Vegetarians
group and let us know there:

http://ca.groups.yahoo.com/group/torontovegetarians

Information about this and other events is also available from the Toronto
Vegetarian
Association's website:

http://www.veg.ca

Hope to see you Saturday!

Garry

#36 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2005 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: Tues June 7 and June 14 both meetings - 7 pm to 9 pm Natural Hygiene Support Group at High Park
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Dear Howard,

Thank you for replying so quickly.
 
We have enough feedback from Natural Hygiene Support Group members to schedule both meetings, so it is on for the 7th, tomorrow and the 14th, next week as well.
 
I'm glad that you are inviting your friends.
 
When we meet in High Park, we have the option of bringing some organically grown fresh fruits and vegetables to share. It is not a pot-luck, because it is too late for dinner for some people, just some plain healthy snacks, without carrots or other starches, because of food combining.
 
See you there!
 
Sincerely,
 
Dianne

Howard Huey <huey_htm@...> wrote:
I perfer the 14th for this month so that I can contact my friends to go.14th of this month is better for me also. I used to go to a buddist temple there to meditation. 

Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:

Dear Friends of Natural Hygiene,

 

Bloom

 

Two associations come to mind:

 

1.      June is flowering month in our organic crops, decorative plants and home gardens.

 

2.      Metaphorically, by eating fully raw meals every day, along with all other factors of health, our health will bloom.

 

 

We will meet at High Park this month, because it is fianally warm enough.

Directions are to go to the Bloor St. entrance, proceed to the pagoda. just past the first concessionstand, near the playground. We are covered, rain or shine.

 

Now, because of the upcoming Loren Locman lecture on Wednesday June 8 this week, it has been suggested that we meet the following Tuesday, June 14, instead.

Please RSVP to Les and I, right away, so that we can meet your needs.

 

Dianne

 

Natural Hygiene

Support Group

 

Welcome to the Natural Hygienic Movement!

 

Come to the meetings & learn the

perfect diet & lifestyle of great health.

If you’re just beginning, receive support;

if you’re an accomplished hygienist,

share ideas & experiences

with like-minded friends.

 

A Natural Hygienist is someone who desires to live with Nature, to eat fresh fruits & vegetables from the trees and Mother Earth.

The ideal is that one abstains fromall animal & dairy products.

Natural Hygiene concerns itself with the laws of Nature and our whole person, including our physiological and biological needs, to regain, maintain and achieve new levels of excellence of optimum health.

 

We meet on the

1st Tuesday of each month,

at 7:00 pm till 9:00 pm

 

Please contact us to know the location each month or see our group website at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfoodsnaturalhygiene

 

 

June 7th ? or June 14th ?        Bloom

 

at High Park

(see directions in welcoming text above please)

 

July 5th          Don't Fry

 

August 2nd    Honest Health

 

"Until man duplicates a blade of grass,

Nature can Laugh at his so-called

scientific knowledge." - T.A. Edison

 

For further information please call:

Les at 416-887-0333 or

 

e-mail Dianne at:

raw_foods_natural_hygiene@....

 

All Are Welcome!

 

Come & Enjoy a Very Real Friendly &

 

Exciting Experience, not to mention

Great Health!

 

This is the support you've been waiting for!

 

Please feel free to invite many friends and family members

to the meetings, and please share this announcement

with anyone who would wish to receive it.

 

RSVP: to Dianne at raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...

 

 


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#35 From: Howard Huey <huey_htm@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2005 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: Tues June 7 ? or 14 ? - 7 pm to 9 pm Natural Hygiene Support Group at High Park
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I perfer the 14th for this month so that I can contact my friends to go.14th of this month is better for me also. I used to go to a buddist temple there to meditation. 

Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:

Dear Friends of Natural Hygiene,

 

Bloom

 

Two associations come to mind:

 

1.      June is flowering month in our organic crops, decorative plants and home gardens.

 

2.      Metaphorically, by eating fully raw meals every day, along with all other factors of health, our health will bloom.

 

 

We will meet at High Park this month, because it is fianally warm enough.

Directions are to go to the Bloor St. entrance, proceed to the pagoda. just past the first concessionstand, near the playground. We are covered, rain or shine.

 

Now, because of the upcoming Loren Locman lecture on Wednesday June 8 this week, it has been suggested that we meet the following Tuesday, June 14, instead.

Please RSVP to Les and I, right away, so that we can meet your needs.

 

Dianne

 

Natural Hygiene

Support Group

 

Welcome to the Natural Hygienic Movement!

 

Come to the meetings & learn the

perfect diet & lifestyle of great health.

If you’re just beginning, receive support;

if you’re an accomplished hygienist,

share ideas & experiences

with like-minded friends.

 

A Natural Hygienist is someone who desires to live with Nature, to eat fresh fruits & vegetables from the trees and Mother Earth.

The ideal is that one abstains fromall animal & dairy products.

Natural Hygiene concerns itself with the laws of Nature and our whole person, including our physiological and biological needs, to regain, maintain and achieve new levels of excellence of optimum health.

 

We meet on the

1st Tuesday of each month,

at 7:00 pm till 9:00 pm

 

Please contact us to know the location each month or see our group website at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfoodsnaturalhygiene

 

 

June 7th ? or June 14th ?        Bloom

 

at High Park

(see directions in welcoming text above please)

 

July 5th          Don't Fry

 

August 2nd    Honest Health

 

"Until man duplicates a blade of grass,

Nature can Laugh at his so-called

scientific knowledge." - T.A. Edison

 

For further information please call:

Les at 416-887-0333 or

 

e-mail Dianne at:

raw_foods_natural_hygiene@....

 

All Are Welcome!

 

Come & Enjoy a Very Real Friendly &

 

Exciting Experience, not to mention

Great Health!

 

This is the support you've been waiting for!

 

Please feel free to invite many friends and family members

to the meetings, and please share this announcement

with anyone who would wish to receive it.

 

RSVP: to Dianne at raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...

 

 


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#34 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2005 6:04 am
Subject: Tues June 7 ? or 14 ? - 7 pm to 9 pm Natural Hygiene Support Group at High Park
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Dear Friends of Natural Hygiene,

 

Bloom

 

Two associations come to mind:

 

1.      June is flowering month in our organic crops, decorative plants and home gardens.

 

2.      Metaphorically, by eating fully raw meals every day, along with all other factors of health, our health will bloom.

 

 

We will meet at High Park this month, because it is fianally warm enough.

Directions are to go to the Bloor St. entrance, proceed to the pagoda. just past the first concessionstand, near the playground. We are covered, rain or shine.

 

Now, because of the upcoming Loren Locman lecture on Wednesday June 8 this week, it has been suggested that we meet the following Tuesday, June 14, instead.

Please RSVP to Les and I, right away, so that we can meet your needs.

 

Dianne

 

Natural Hygiene

Support Group

 

Welcome to the Natural Hygienic Movement!

 

Come to the meetings & learn the

perfect diet & lifestyle of great health.

If you’re just beginning, receive support;

if you’re an accomplished hygienist,

share ideas & experiences

with like-minded friends.

 

A Natural Hygienist is someone who desires to live with Nature, to eat fresh fruits & vegetables from the trees and Mother Earth.

The ideal is that one abstains fromall animal & dairy products.

Natural Hygiene concerns itself with the laws of Nature and our whole person, including our physiological and biological needs, to regain, maintain and achieve new levels of excellence of optimum health.

 

We meet on the

1st Tuesday of each month,

at 7:00 pm till 9:00 pm

 

Please contact us to know the location each month or see our group website at

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rawfoodsnaturalhygiene

 

 

June 7th ? or June 14th ?        Bloom

 

at High Park

(see directions in welcoming text above please)

 

July 5th          Don't Fry

 

August 2nd    Honest Health

 

"Until man duplicates a blade of grass,

Nature can Laugh at his so-called

scientific knowledge." - T.A. Edison

 

For further information please call:

Les at 416-887-0333 or

 

e-mail Dianne at:

raw_foods_natural_hygiene@....

 

All Are Welcome!

 

Come & Enjoy a Very Real Friendly &

 

Exciting Experience, not to mention

Great Health!

 

This is the support you've been waiting for!

 

Please feel free to invite many friends and family members

to the meetings, and please share this announcement

with anyone who would wish to receive it.

 

RSVP: to Dianne at raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...

 

 


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#33 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Mon Jun 6, 2005 4:56 am
Subject: Loren Lockman lecture details - Wed June 8th, 7 pm at Super Sprouts
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LOREN LOCKMAN

 

Loren Lockman

 

 

Inspiring teacher

       of the natural way

            to perfect health

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Everyone!

 

Loren Lockman is back in Ontario. He will be speaking at Super Sprouts,

 

720 Bathurst Street, the evening of Wednesday, June 8th from 7 to 9 PM.

 

Everything that Loren teaches is congruent with

 

Raw Foods Natural Hygiene principles.

 

If you are not yet familiar with Loren, he is the Founder and Director of the

 

Tanglewood Wellness Center in Maryland, a supervised fasting retreat,

 

and raw-food community.

 

Here are some of the things that Loren could talk about;

 

it varies from lecture to lecture:

Health Myths That May Be Keeping You 
from Achieving
The Natural Condition of Perfect Health
Myth # 1 – Disease in inevitable – Not TRUE
Truth: Perfect health is the natural condition, and the birthright of each of us. 
It’s our lifestyle choices that determine if we’ll experience perfect health,
or, as is much more common, eventual disease. 
We live in a world where disease seems inevitable. 
Painful,
debilitating diseases kill most of us, not natural causes; 
this is completely unnecessary.
Myth # 2 – Genetics plays a big role in disease – Not TRUE
Truth: Genetic factors are not nearly as important as once believed, 
and can usually only predispose one to a disease; 
invariably, they do not cause disease. 
Today, 80% of Americans will die of Cancer, Heart disease or Stroke. 
According to the US government, 75% of all cancers, heart disease and strokes 
are diet related.
Our level of health and vitality is not dependant on anyone else. 
Each one of us is free to make choices that best support 
our highest level of health and wellness. 
Our health is our responsibility.
(This is written with US facts, Canadians are not much different)
Myth # 3 – Fasting is dangerous – Not TRUE
Truth: Fasting can make you healthier than you ever thought possible.
Virtually every animal on the planet instinctively fasts when not well. 
Fasting is an extremely effective method of dealing with 
almost all physical and even emotional problems.
Even “incurable” diseases can disappear.
Though the knowledge of fasting is largely absent from our culture, 
it has been around from the beginning. The Greek philosopher Plutarch, (A.D.  46) 
said, “Instead of medicine, fast for a day.” And any time you are not well, 
fasting is the most expedient way to deal with it.
It may be for a day. It may be for much longer.
Facts about Fasting
           Many of the great leaders fasted for
long periods of time:
Gandhi and Jesus being two great examples.
           Fasting gives the body complete physiological rest 
that the body needs to heal.
           Fasting is a natural process that honours nature. 
There are no toxic medications used to “cure” disease. 
Fasting is simple, basic and extremely powerful.
            Though fasting is natural, and generally, completely safe, 
people are much better off fasting with supervision, 
away from their own environment. 
A successful fast requires total rest. 
This is very difficult, if not impossible, 
for many people in their own environment,
especially if there’s any uncertainty 
about the process or the symptoms that may arise.
            Eliminating toxins from the body is a necessary step 
in creating true and lasting health. 
Fasting is the most effective and efficient way
to remove toxins from the system.

Please give me a call at 416-821-4939 to pre-register,

 

or visit www.TanglewoodWellnessCenter.com for further information.

 

“The Promise of Perfect Health"

 

goes from 7-9pm at Super Sprouts. Admission is $20. 

 

Come extra early and have dinner at the Remedy Café at Super Sprouts.

 

It is a rare occasion and delightful pleasure to have Loren in Toronto.

 

Be sure to attend this event!

 

See you there!

 

Sincerely,

 

Dianne

 

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#32 From: rawfoodsnaturalhygiene@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2005 11:55 pm
Subject: Natural Hygiene Support Group, 6/7/2005, 7:00 pm
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Natural Hygiene Support Group

Tuesday June 7, 2005
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
This event repeats on the first Tuesday of every month, until Thursday July 14, 2005.

Event Location: June - High Park, S of Bloor, Toronto, ON in the pagoda
Street: We select a different meeting place each month. Check for updates!
City, State, Zip: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Map
Phone: Les 416-887-0333, call or e-mail to RSVP if attending

Notes:
June Topic for Discussion - Bloom

* * * * * It has been suggested to postpone our Toronto Support Group meeting * * * 1 week * * * due to the Loren Lockman Lecture Wednesday, June 8 at 7 pm at Super Sprouts.
* * * * * Please let us know your needs ASAP. * * * * *
Please RSVP to Les at 416-887-0333 or e-mail Dianne.

- N.B. For everyone's health, please observe allergies & environmental sensitiities and do not wear any scented products, and so on, when we meet in person.

We select different locations each month. Please check.

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#31 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Wed Jun 1, 2005 7:21 pm
Subject: Loren Lockman - Wednesday June 8th, 7 pm at Super Sprouts
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LOREN LOCKMAN

 

Loren Lockman

 

 

Inspiring teacher

       of the natural way

            to perfect health

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Everyone!

 

It’s been a whirlwind of activity here lately…and as busy as we are, we wanted to let you know about another upcoming be sure to be there event. Loren Lockman will be back in Ontario from June 3rd though June 13th. He will be speaking at Super Sprouts the evening of June 8th from 7 to 9 PM, the night after our monthly Natural Hygiene Support Group meeting. Everything that Loren teaches is congruent with Raw Foods Natural Hygiene principles.

 

If you are not yet familiar with Loren, he is the Founder and Director of the Tanglewood Wellness Center in Maryland, a supervised fasting retreat, and raw-food community.

 

Loren’s been a raw vegan for over 13 years, and has spent more than 20 years focused on how to create the highest levels of health possible. He’s taught this information to clients in over 20 countries, and has worked with more than 2000 people one-on-one. His Creating Perfect Health System is unconditionally guaranteed to take anyone from wherever they are, to the highest level of health they’ve ever experienced, and his ideas and practices have helped hundreds and hundreds of people overcome serious or debilitating conditions of all kinds.

 

Loren is a warm and engaging talk show guest, is a regular columnist for Just Eat an Apple magazine, and has also published many essays and articles. He has appeared in numerous magazines including Washington Woman, Get Fresh and Natural Awakenings. Loren is the author of the Vibrant Living Handbook – 8 Keys to Optimal Health: The Essentials, and the creator of the Creating Perfect Health System, a complete system of audio and video tapes and written material.

 

If you’ve never before heard Loren talk, you will be enthralled. He’s been speaking professionally for many years, and is one of the most articulate, interesting, and engaging speakers you’ll ever hear. And his insights into creating amazing levels of health , we believe, will benefit you whether you are new to this path or have been on it for decades. In fact, if you don’t feel like you’ve benefited from this event, just let us know before you leave, for a full refund.

 

“The Promise of Perfect Health" goes from 7-9pm at Super Sprouts. Admission is $20.  Come extra early and have dinner at the Remedy Café at Super Sprouts. It is a rare occasion and delightful pleasure to have Loren in Toronto. Be sure to pre-register for this event!

 

Please give me a call at 416-821-4939 for more information, or visit www.TanglewoodWellnessCenter.com.

 

For your convenience, this lecture is offered as well in Burlington & Scarborough:

 

Burlington

Monday Evening June 6th - 'Promise of Perfect Health'
7 to 9 PM at St. Mathews Anglican Church 126, Plains Rd east - for information call Sandy at 905-681-9491  


Scarborough

Friday Evening June 10th - 'Promise of Perfect Health'
7 to 9 PM at Scarborough YMCA, 230 Town Center Court (just off the 401 at Mc Cowan) - for information call Mary Anne at 301-898-8901.

 

See you there!

 

Sincerely,

 

Dianne


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#30 From: "raw_foods_natural_hygiene" <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 2:51 pm
Subject: Fresh by Juice for Life , 521 Bloor St. W, east of Bathurst, 7 pm tonight
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Dear Friends of Natural Hygiene,

Tonight's Support Group topic is Flower

Three associations come to mind:

1.      May is planting month for us to raise our organic crops and
decorative plants that will sprout up and produce flowers.

2.      Symbolically, by being in tune with Nature in the outdoors,
our health will flower as we implement the natural laws that we
recognize.

3.      We can consume edible flowers in our diets. (How many of you
thought of broccoli and cauliflower?)

In summary, Natural Hygiene teaches us to indulge our aesthetic
senses with flowers and appropriate surroundings in our life indoors
as well as our natural life outdoors, and in our internal environment
of our minds and spirits, to have a peaceful harmonious life.

One reference in the Toronto Natural Hygiene Library is by T.C. Fry.

T.C. Fry, was a man who thought for himself, often in opposition with
others with whom he was associated, and a popular writer and teacher
of Natural Hygiene (Life Science, as he called it), who became
involved in Natural Hygiene circa 1970, having been a businessman
living in New York City, operating a classical music record company
and selling recordings of music through the mail, and obviously
enjoying doing this, and had a good knowledge of such music.

Hence, due to his expansive thinking, in his first book, Program for
Dynamic Health –Introducing Natural Hygiene—the Proven Natural Health
System, pages 46 & 47, he writes in the chapter "An Elaboration upon
Eighteen Factors and Influences to Superb Health and Wellbeing" as
Point 18,

The human ability to appreciate beauty, art and goodness is not
unique but it is so highly developed as to place us far above the
most advanced animals. To achieve optimum health we should be
surrounded by the beauty in nature and in man's art. We should be in
association with those whose lives, personalities, attitudes and
deportment are pleasing to our social senses. Unaesthetic
surroundings, people of ugly disposition and a paucity of beauty
influences deeply and tends to likewise shape individuals.

The needs of life are this simple! Nothing is complicated about it.
It seems self-evident that these are the essential means for a happy
and healthy life. We can see that the science of health does not come
from the so-called scientific laboratories but, instead, it springs
from the laboratories of nature. Hygienists maintain that this
compromises the basic formula by which man lived in the lap of nature
while developing into the superb creature that he really is. Perhaps
we can pursue no wiser course than to cultivate optimally these
factors and influences in our pattern of living."

We will meet at Fresh by Juice for Life this month, because they are
easy to reach and open late for us. Directions are to go to 521 Bloor
St. West (east of Bathurst). They have healthy colourful, innovative
vegetarian selections. TVA members receive a discount.

Dianne

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Natural Hygiene Support Group

Welcome to the Natural Hygienic Movement!

Come to the meetings & learn the perfect diet & lifestyle of great
health.

If you're just beginning, receive support; if you're an accomplished
hygienist, share ideas & experiences with like-minded friends.

We meet on the 1st Tuesday of each month, at 7:00 pm till 9:00 pm

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#29 From: rawfoodsnaturalhygiene@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 11:55 pm
Subject: Natural Hygiene Support Group, 5/3/2005, 7:00 pm
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Tuesday May 3, 2005
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
This event repeats on the first Tuesday of every month.

Event Location: May - TBA - High Park, Toronto, Ontario if not raining
Street: We select a different meeting place each month. Check for updates!
City, State, Zip: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Map
Phone: Les 416-887-0333, call or e-mail to RSVP if attending

Notes:
May Topic for Discussion - Flower

Please RSVP to Les at 416-887-0333 or e-mail Dianne.

- N.B. For everyone's health, please observe allergies & environmental sensitiities and do not wear any scented products, and so on, when we meet in person.

We select different locations each month. Please check.

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#28 From: "raw_foods_natural_hygiene" <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:11 pm
Subject: Two Upcoming Summer Festivals
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Dear Friends of Natural Hygiene,

There are two fun activities comming up, YES! to LIFE and RAWSTOCK.

*************************************************************
YES! to LIFE
June 17-19, 2005

Journey into the Cause of Health through
The Living-Foods Lifestyle & the Sevenfold Path to Peace

At Spirit of the Earth, `The Living Centre', a beautiful country
retreat sanctuary in London, Ontario, Canada

OVER 15 OF THE TOP PRESENTERS, EDUCATORS & PRACTITIONERS IN THE
LIVING-FOODS LIFESTYLE

FEATURNING BRIAN CLEMENTS FROM THE HIPPOCRATES CENTRE, FLORIDA, THE
`LFLA' EMPOWERMENT TEAM AND MORE….

FRIDAY 6pm to SUNDAY 5pm

HALF DAY INTENSIVES FRIDAY 9am - 6pm.

PERSONAL INVESTMENT
$275 before May 21m $300 thereafter. Includes 6 delicious, organic,
living-foods meals and attendance to all workshops and celebrations.

DAY PASS: $100 includes meals

GROUPS of 10 or more $250 each

FAMILIES of 3 or more $$250 for adults, $50 for each child

CHILDREN under 6 free & Group rates available.

HALF DAY INTENSIVES: 55 each or 2 Intensives $95
Extra 10% off for LFLA members & the Living Arts Institute students

ACTIVITIES INCLUDE: Lectures, Living-Food demo classes, 6 amazing,
organic, live-food meals, swimming in our fresh spring fed pond,
sweat lodge, star gazing by warm gentle fires, music, song, dance,
comedy, drumming circles & bon fires, sacred circle ceremonies, walks
in our magical 25 acre forest, hammock lounging, healing circles,
community building and the pure joy of being on the Earth.

*************************************************************

If we wish to organize as a group of 10 people, we can go @ $250 CDN
each.

RSVP to Dianne at raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...

*************************************************************

Lorenna and Shantree write to Hygienists:

      "Yes, there will be salads and fruits available for those who
wish to eat simple."

and

      "Regarding if it rains. We will just go under the tents. Easy."

**********************************************************************

I attended YES! to LIFE last year and loved it! It is excellent for
sharing and inspiring community spirit with similar lifestyles people
and the grounds and activities are top notch!

Dianne

**********************************************************************

Rawstock III - Raw Ecstasy Jamboree
August 26-29 at Macdonald Farm
5730 Ross Branch Road, Sebastopol, California
(707) 829-0362

www.rawstock.us

America's only summer raw food lifestyle festival!

http://www.raw-passion.com/rawstock.html

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http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/14242.html

From: Dr. Doug Graham (DrGraham.vegsource.com)

"Rawstock is the event of the year for sure this year, as far as
public events go."
Dr D

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#27 From: gale porter <glporte@...>
Date: Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: other natural hygiene support groups
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Thank you Diane for the useful information and the quick response! Gale

Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...> wrote:
Hi Gale,
 
Welcome! I'm glad you're doing well and want to do better.
 
Dr. Barnard's book would be considered a transitiion approach to the Natural Hygiene lifestyle.
 
***************************************************************************************************************
 

NEAL D. BARNARD, M.D.

The new four food groups are grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruits. Meat and dairy lose their food group status, and fruits and vegetables no longer share a single group. This straightforward proposal sets in motion the most powerful dietary policy ever, one charged with the potential to save tens of millions of lives, including your own.

In Food for Life, Dr. Barnard makes the clearest case yet for this dietary revolution. Citing overwhelming medical evidence (previously downplayed by powerful lobbying groups), Dr. Barnard reveals why a diet based on the new four food groups will sharply decrease the risk of cancer and heart disease and dramatically increase life expectancy. And, most important, the quality of those later years will take a dramatic turn toward vitality and well-being.

Dr. Barnard unveils a 21-day program for a smooth transition to the new four food groups. These foods are naturally low in fat, cholesterol, and salt; high in fiber, vitamins, and minerals; and will enable you to eat as much as you want and still lose weight! Dr. Barnard's program takes into consideration a wide range of special needs and situations, and each daily menu and recipe shows just how enticing and flexible the new four food groups can be.

Food for Life proposes a bold new remedy for a society burdened by health problems. It also provides a specific plan for everyday people, a program full of practical and appealing suggestions for changing the way we eat. Food for Life has the power to transform the future, to give us all the opportunity for a long and vital life.

Author Information
Neal Barnard, M.D., is president of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. He lives in Washington, D.C.

334 pages


***************************************************************************************************************
One of our world-leading Natural Hygiene doctors, Dr. Doug Graham,
has many educational materials for you to take your health even further.
 
***************************************************************************************************************
 
As a highly sought-after speaker, Dr. Graham has shared his strategies for achieving optimum health and vitality with audiences at health, animal rights, environmental, and sports performance events on four continents. He is the creator of "Simply Delicious" cuisine and director of Health and Fitness Weeks, which provide Olympic-class training and nutrition for people of all fitness levels in beautiful settings around the world.

Dr. Graham is an advisor to world-class athletes and trainers from around the globe. He has trained professional and Olympic athletes from almost every sport, including tennis legend Martina Navratilova, NBA player Ronnie Grandison, and the Norwegian national bicycling team.

Dr. Graham is a founder and serves as president of Healthful Living International and is on the board of advisors of EarthSave International, Organic Athlete, and Voice for a Viable Future.  He is the author of several best-selling books, including Grain Damage, Nutrition and Athletic Performance, and The High Energy Diet Recipe Guide. His articles are regularly featured in Get Fresh! and Living Nutrition magazines.

Among Dr. Graham's gifts are his ability to explain the complexities of anatomy, biology, chemistry, and physiology in terms that are easy to understand.  An inspiration to others, he has followed a raw-vegan regimen for twenty-five years and has been vegetarian for over thirty years.  He is living proof that eating whole, fresh, ripe, raw, organic food is the way to achieve vibrant health and vitality!

*******************************************************************************

You will notice that Doug even has a powerful small booklet called Grain Damage.
 
 
***************************************************************************************************************
 
http://foodnsport.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=45
 
This little booklet packs a big message. The negative side of grain production and consumption is explored from angles such as the history of grain use, nutrition, ecology, energy, environment, sports performance, health, addictions, disordered eating, and much more.
 
***************************************************************************************************************
Also, many hygienists have trouble digesting legumes and do not use them much, preferring nuts and seeds.
 
You might want to see if Healthful Living International has a group or classes in your area.
 
 
Or you could do as I did, have personal consultations with the co-leader of our Toronto Natural Hygiene Support Group, Les, tel. 416-887-0333. He turned my health around from dismal to fully functioning, after I had years of attending lectures, presentations and seminars from many of the world's leaders in natural care and I had received years of patient care from several of the finest natural doctors in Toronto.
 
Best regards,
 
Dianne
 

gale <glporte@...> wrote:

Hi, I am interested in learning more about natural hygiene.  I have
used the FooD For Life book for a diet and it works really good but I
need more information.  Do you know if there are any support groups or
classes in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area in Texas. Thank you Gale Porter.
glporte@...

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Date: Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:23 pm
Subject: Re: other natural hygiene support groups
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Hi Gale,
 
Welcome! I'm glad you're doing well and want to do better.
 
Dr. Barnard's book would be considered a transitiion approach to the Natural Hygiene lifestyle.
 
***************************************************************************************************************
 

NEAL D. BARNARD, M.D.

The new four food groups are grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruits. Meat and dairy lose their food group status, and fruits and vegetables no longer share a single group. This straightforward proposal sets in motion the most powerful dietary policy ever, one charged with the potential to save tens of millions of lives, including your own.

In Food for Life, Dr. Barnard makes the clearest case yet for this dietary revolution. Citing overwhelming medical evidence (previously downplayed by powerful lobbying groups), Dr. Barnard reveals why a diet based on the new four food groups will sharply decrease the risk of cancer and heart disease and dramatically increase life expectancy. And, most important, the quality of those later years will take a dramatic turn toward vitality and well-being.

Dr. Barnard unveils a 21-day program for a smooth transition to the new four food groups. These foods are naturally low in fat, cholesterol, and salt; high in fiber, vitamins, and minerals; and will enable you to eat as much as you want and still lose weight! Dr. Barnard's program takes into consideration a wide range of special needs and situations, and each daily menu and recipe shows just how enticing and flexible the new four food groups can be.

Food for Life proposes a bold new remedy for a society burdened by health problems. It also provides a specific plan for everyday people, a program full of practical and appealing suggestions for changing the way we eat. Food for Life has the power to transform the future, to give us all the opportunity for a long and vital life.

Author Information
Neal Barnard, M.D., is president of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. He lives in Washington, D.C.

334 pages


***************************************************************************************************************
One of our world-leading Natural Hygiene doctors, Dr. Doug Graham,
has many educational materials for you to take your health even further.
 
***************************************************************************************************************
 
As a highly sought-after speaker, Dr. Graham has shared his strategies for achieving optimum health and vitality with audiences at health, animal rights, environmental, and sports performance events on four continents. He is the creator of "Simply Delicious" cuisine and director of Health and Fitness Weeks, which provide Olympic-class training and nutrition for people of all fitness levels in beautiful settings around the world.

Dr. Graham is an advisor to world-class athletes and trainers from around the globe. He has trained professional and Olympic athletes from almost every sport, including tennis legend Martina Navratilova, NBA player Ronnie Grandison, and the Norwegian national bicycling team.

Dr. Graham is a founder and serves as president of Healthful Living International and is on the board of advisors of EarthSave International, Organic Athlete, and Voice for a Viable Future.  He is the author of several best-selling books, including Grain Damage, Nutrition and Athletic Performance, and The High Energy Diet Recipe Guide. His articles are regularly featured in Get Fresh! and Living Nutrition magazines.

Among Dr. Graham's gifts are his ability to explain the complexities of anatomy, biology, chemistry, and physiology in terms that are easy to understand.  An inspiration to others, he has followed a raw-vegan regimen for twenty-five years and has been vegetarian for over thirty years.  He is living proof that eating whole, fresh, ripe, raw, organic food is the way to achieve vibrant health and vitality!

*******************************************************************************

You will notice that Doug even has a powerful small booklet called Grain Damage.
 
 
***************************************************************************************************************
 
http://foodnsport.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=45
 
This little booklet packs a big message. The negative side of grain production and consumption is explored from angles such as the history of grain use, nutrition, ecology, energy, environment, sports performance, health, addictions, disordered eating, and much more.
 
***************************************************************************************************************
Also, many hygienists have trouble digesting legumes and do not use them much, preferring nuts and seeds.
 
You might want to see if Healthful Living International has a group or classes in your area.
 
 
Or you could do as I did, have personal consultations with the co-leader of our Toronto Natural Hygiene Support Group, Les, tel. 416-887-0333. He turned my health around from dismal to fully functioning, after I had years of attending lectures, presentations and seminars from many of the world's leaders in natural care and I had received years of patient care from several of the finest natural doctors in Toronto.
 
Best regards,
 
Dianne
 

gale <glporte@...> wrote:

Hi, I am interested in learning more about natural hygiene.  I have
used the FooD For Life book for a diet and it works really good but I
need more information.  Do you know if there are any support groups or
classes in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area in Texas. Thank you Gale Porter.
glporte@...

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Date: Sat Apr 23, 2005 3:20 pm
Subject: natural hygiene support groups
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Hi, I am interested in learning more about natural hygiene.  I have
used the FooD For Life book for a diet and it works really good but I
need more information.  Do you know if there are any support groups or
classes in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area in Texas. Thank you Gale Porter.
glporte@...

#24 From: Dianne Knight <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: My Rediscovery of Natural Hygiene
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Dear Bat,
 
A beautiful story! Thank you for sharing it and posting it on our group website. We in the Natural Hygiene Support Group are looking for each other to strengthen each other with our similar experiences and help each other with our challenges.
 
Some of us choose Harvey as a guide, others Dr. Doug Graham, or Dr. Herbert Shelton, or Dr. Alec Burton, or whichever promient hygienist we each resonate with, or what best fits a particular circumstance, depending on each person's state of health and where one wants to go.
 
You are so right in declaring the lack of awareness in the general population. Others before you, many keeping their privacy, have had spiritual and physical awakenings too, some becoming stronger and stronger year after year.
 
Once a month we hold an evening meeting for 2 hours, the first Tuesday of each month in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Are you in the Greater Toronto Area?
 
Best regards,
 
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#23 From: "Bat Tziyon" <kosher_raw_food@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:35 pm
Subject: My Rediscovery of Natural Hygiene
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I read the books by Harvey and Marilyn Diamond when they first came
out but I just couldn't get with the program. I was overweight and
tired of it. You would have thought that I would have jumped on the
bandwagon. No. I did what my friends did and joined WeightWatchers. I
lost...and gained it back plus more. Fast forward to March of 2005.
Almost 50(in June)and I needed a way to keep kosher. I had converted
from Catholicism to Judaism with my conversion being complete in May
2005. I wanted to have a way that I would be able to eat healthy and
keep myself spiritually centered.

Then I read Harvey Diamond's book 'Fit for Life NOT Fat for Life on
15 March 2005. This time, something happened in me. On 16 March 2005,
I started eating the way that he advocated. I haven't looked back
since! I gave up smoking right after that and I haven't had another
cigarette since. I started reading up on Natural Hygeine and I can't
believe that people are not aware of this way of eating!

I have more energy than ever, my skin has a glow and is clear, the
circles under my eyes are going away and I love the veggies and
fruits. I have told others about this and they are listening. The
best thing in the world is that I am able to keep kosher...naturally.
My Rabbi and Rebbetsin told me that many Jews do this and it is an
excellent way.

A way to be both healthy and spiritual. I couldn't ask for more!

Bat Tziyon

#22 From: Garry Choo <garrychoo@...>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 3:59 am
Subject: Re: Tues April 5th - 7 pm to 9 pm Natural Hygiene Support Group at Papaya Island
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Hi Dianne,
I joined the group a few weeks ago. I will attend on
Tuesday.
Thanks,
Garry



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#21 From: "raw_foods_natural_hygiene" <raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...>
Date: Mon Apr 4, 2005 3:51 am
Subject: Tues April 5th - 7 pm to 9 pm Natural Hygiene Support Group at Papaya Island
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Dear Friends of Natural Hygiene,

The best input from a member for last month's topic, Fast Food (NOT)
came from a person who says,

"I stick to the natural hygiene raw diet because I believe in it, and
I do feel better when I eat raw foods. Sometimes the impact is
emotionally, or having mental clarity, or sometimes physically I have
more energy. And generally I feel more alive. Things are better
interacting with people; I'm more relaxed; I make better choices and
I feel more grounded and present."

Many of the restaurants have nutrition calculators. Some of the more
popular ones are listed:

Arby's
  http://www.arbysrestaurants.com/nutinfo.html

Burger King
  http://www.bk.com/Food/Nutrition/NutritionWizard/index.aspx

KFC
  http://www.yum.com/nutrition/menu.asp?brandID_Abbr=2_KFC

McDonald's
  http://www.mcdonalds.ca/en/food/calculator.aspx

Subway
  http://www.subway.com/applications/NutritionInfo/index.aspx?
countrycode=CAN

Taco Bell
  http://www.yum.com/nutrition/menu.asp?brandID_Abbr=5_TB

Wendy's
  http://www.wendys.com/food/index.jsp

What can we eat on a fast hectic schedule that will not compromise
our health?

Fruits and vegetables on the go. All it takes is a little preparation
time and some containers for whatever you like, raw organic carrots
or raw organic broccoli. Be sure to eat slowly, and chew the whole
foods well. You do not want anything mixed or stirred.

I did a drive from Toronto to Ottawa and back with only an organic
apple or another fruit every 45 minutes or so. This is far more
economical than stopping at the chains and it is well worth it. My
energy level was constant, smooth and alert.

The chains empty your wallet fast and still leave you hungry and then
you are feeling sleepy. And you get unhealthy fast. Your hunger can
be "treated" only with real foods.

Here is a partial list of fruits available:

Acerola, Acerola Cherry, Barbados Cherry, West Indian Cherry, Cereza,
Cerisier, Semeruco, Ceresas

Avocado

Babaco

Baby Banana

Banana

Cactus Pear, Higos

Cape Gooseberry

Capulin Cherry

Carambola

Che

Cherimoya, Custard Apple (U.K. and Commonwealth)

Currants

Dragon Fruit, Pitaya

Durian

Edible Hardy Palms

Feijoa

Fig

Golden Apple, Otaheite Apple, Ambarella, Tahitian Quince

Giant Granadilla

Gooseberry

Guava

Hardy Kiwifruit

Jaboticaba

Jackfruit

Japanische Aprikose

Jujube

Kak Date Plum

Kiwano, Horned Melon, Jelly Melon

Kiwifruit, Kiwi, Chinese Gooseberry

Longan, Dragon's Eye

Longkong

Loquat, Japanese Medlar, Japanese Plum

Lucuma, Eggfruit, Abiu

Lychee

Macadamia

Malabar Chestnut, Guiana Chestnut

Mammee Apple

Mango

Mangosteen

Mellow Fruit, Melon Pear, Tree Melon

Milk Apple

Miracle Fruit

Mulberry

Muscadine Grape

Olive

Papaya,

Passion Fruit

Pawpaw

Pepino Dulce

Persimmon

Pineapple

Pistachio

Pomegranate

Pummelo

Purple Poisson Fruit, Star Apple

Raisin Tree

Rambutan

Rose Apple, Water Apple, Water Rose

Salak

Sapodilla, Chico, Naseberry

Sapote, White Sapote, Mamey Sapote

Sour Sops or Guanabanas

Starfruit, Carambola

Sweet Passion Fruit, Golden Passionfruit, Granadilla

Sweet Sop, Sugar Apple, Custard Apple

Tamarillo

Tamarind

Tropical Guava

White Sapote

Woodapple

Young Coconut

We will meet at Papaya Island again this month, because they are easy
to reach and open late for us. Directions are to go to 513A Yonge
St., east side, n of College & s of Wellesley, in Toronto, Ontario,
Canada. They have vegetarian selections and to be raw we can order
salads. Toronto Vegetarian Association members receive a discount.

Dianne

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Natural Hygiene

Support Group

Welcome to the Natural Hygienic Movement!


Come to the meetings & learn the

perfect diet & lifestyle of great health.

If you're just beginning, receive support;

if you're an accomplished hygienist,

share ideas & experiences

with like-minded friends.


We meet on the

1st Tuesday of each month,

at 7:00 pm till 9:00 pm

Please contact us to know the location each month.


April 5th        Pain Free

May 3rd          Flower

June 7th         Bloom

July 5th         Don't Fry

August 2nd       Honest Health


"Until man duplicates a blade of grass,

Nature can Laugh at his so-called

scientific knowledge." - T.A. Edison

For further information please call:

Les at 416-887-0333 or

e-mail Dianne at:

raw_foods_natural_hygiene@....

All Are Welcome!

Come & Enjoy a Very Real Friendly &

Exciting Experience, not to mention

Great Health!

This is the support you've been waiting for!


Please feel free to invite many friends and family members

to the meetings, and please share this announcement

with anyone who would wish to receive it.

RSVP: to Dianne at raw_foods_natural_hygiene@...

#16 From: rawfoodsnaturalhygiene@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:55 pm
Subject: Natural Hygiene Support Group, 3/1/2005, 7:00 pm
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Reminder Reminder from the Calendar of rawfoodsnaturalhygiene
Natural Hygiene Support Group

Tuesday March 1, 2005
7:00 pm - 9:00 pm
This event repeats on the first Tuesday of every month, until Wednesday January 11, 2006.

Event Location: phone ahead - to be announced due to snow storm forecast
Street: We select a different meeting place each month. Check for updates!
City, State, Zip: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Map
Phone: Les 416-887-0333, call or e-mail to RSVP if attending

Notes:
March Topic for Discussion - Fas Food (NOT)

March Location - Phone ahead - We have the biggest snow storm of the season forecast for Toronto, Canada - 15 cm for Monday and Tuesday each day.
We could do a telephone conference, if we wanted, instead by each person calling one other person to be added while keeping all the others on the first line - the daisy wheel. Please RSVP to Les at 416-887-0333 for this option.

- N.B. For everyone's health, please observe allergies & environmental sensitiities and do not wear any scented products, and so on, when we meet in person.

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#15 From: "naturepromote" <naturepromote@...>
Date: Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:57 am
Subject: Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food
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"Vitality and beauty are gifts from nature for those who live
according to its laws."
- Leonardo DeVinci


"Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food"
Hippocrates 460 - 359 BC

We invite you to join

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/natural-cure

Peter

#12 From: Tim Campbell <timcall@...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2005 5:33 am
Subject: My revelation of health via the principles of natural raw food diet...
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The World is Dying For & Must Know!
by David Klein
Living Nutrition Magazine vol. 8

http://www.livingnutrition.com

One magical evening fifteen years ago my mind exploded. I was studying
the Natural Hygiene Course and understood how to save and resurrect my
life. And I understood what humanity needed to undo disease, suffering
and its descent toward extinction.

My revelation of health via the principles of natural raw food diet
and
self healing set in motion my rapid healing and lit a fire in me which
is still raging on. From an abyss on the brink of destruction to the
pinnacle of health, here I am! Some people describe my passion for
getting people the messages of raw food eating and self healing as
driven and indomitable. A minute has rarely gone by in fifteen years
when I have not been caught up in thinking of ways to effectively
present this information so that everyone can understand and embrace
it.


Where is this passion coming from? From eight years of hellacious
suffering and a will to live in a healthy body and enjoy the fruits of
life, and to see my fellow Earth beings realize the same. Anyone who
knows me knows that I’ll be educating the world for the next hundred
years, or as long as it takes for humanity to wake up to healthful
living.

I love doing this work--empowering people with this knowledge and
seeing
them overcoming suffering, thwarting death, and becoming healthy and
liberated from the medical traps is heartening and exhilarating! Every
woman, man and child deserves to live a healthful life in a healthy
body!

The information describing how to heal, rejuvenate and regenerate is
here and available to everyone now and it is high time that everyone
gets it!

As Thomas Henry Huxley said, “Education is the instruction of the
intellect in the laws of Nature.” Natural is the way to be!

Humanity needs to know that:

We are biological (not technological or medical) creatures; natural is
the way.
Our biological/physiological dietetic constitution is frugivore.

Alive raw fruits, succulent plants, seeds and nuts are the foods which
constitute our natural, most delicious and most healthful diet; “live
foods for live people” is the watchword.

Cooking food is an act of destruction, creating toxins; cooked meat and
grains are carcinogenic.
Every nutrient we need is available in fruit and plant foods; there is
no need to kill and eat dead animals.

A meal of an apple is immeasurably nutritionally superior to any cooked
food meal. Simple eating is not boring--it is deliciously liberating
and
reverses aging!

Our bodies know how to self heal disease--we merely have to step out of
the way, live on simple raw juices, and/or fruits and vegetables, or on
water, get rest and sleep and the body will detoxify and heal.

Germs do not cause illness--they are all beneficial, working
symbiotically with the body to help digest plant foods, synthesize some
vitamins and clean up wastes.

We cannot become healthy if we attempt to drug and continue to pollute
our bodies with medicines and dead deranged “foods.”
Every drug or medicine is poison and has no healing power.

There are no quick fixes or short cuts to health--only the body itself
can regenerate a healthier body, and it needs a clean diet and
supportive conditions to do that.

Relying on outside modalities for healing disempowers us; relying on
Providence for self healing is the way to actualize perfect health and
maximum longevity.

There are no mysteries behind why we get sick--the information
describing the cause of and way to overcome every illness, and the
proper professional help, is here and available to everyone.

Disease is not inevitable or out of our control--we only become
diseased
if we poison and enervate our bodies and minds.

No one need fear “getting sick”. “Getting sick” is nature’s way of
detoxifying and telling us that we need to correct our thinking and
live
more healthfully.

Perfect health and joyous living are our birthright, and we can all
move
toward their realization every day, on the glorious healthful living
path.

I thank you for reading this and for anything you can do to spread the
message of healthful living. There is a universal spiritual law which
says that to receive we must give. It follows that for every ounce of
good will we put out toward our fellow Earth citizens, we will receive
more enrichment in return.

This is so true! It feels so good to give--to oneself by creating a
healthier body, and to humanity by sharing this information. This
raises
our and Mother Earth’s level of health and deepens our spiritual
connection, becoming a joyous daily ritual or celebration.

The fruits of this healing work are simply the fruits of life. I’d
love
to share with you and wish you beautiful health and endless abundance!

http://www.rawfoods.com/articles/mustknow.html
http://www.livingnutrition.com
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