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#69 From: victorlei@...
Date: Wed Jun 7, 2000 9:05 am
Subject: Book recommendations
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Guys,

I see this list is somewhat sleepy, so please wake up.
I am looking for your comments on the following two books:

1. Scientific Qigong Exploration
      by Zuyin Lu

2. Qigong : Chinese Medicine or Pseudoscience?
      by Zixin Lin et al


    Victor

#70 From: RMS11117@...
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2000 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: Book recommendations
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In a message dated 6/7/00 5:05:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
victorlei@... writes:

<< Guys,

  I see this list is somewhat sleepy, so please wake up.
  I am looking for your comments on the following two books:

  1. Scientific Qigong Exploration
       by Zuyin Lu

  2. Qigong: Chinese Medicine or Pseudoscience?
       by Zixin Lin et al


     Victor >>
Any tips on how I can get my hands on these 2 books?

#71 From: Kevin Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Fri Jun 9, 2000 2:19 am
Subject: Re: Book recommendations
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Hi,

You can get both books from Amazon.com.  I ordered them but have not got
time reading them carefully yet.  So, no comment at this moment.

Kevin

At 01:25 PM 06/09/2000 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 6/7/00 5:05:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>victorlei@... writes:
>
><< Guys,
>
> I see this list is somewhat sleepy, so please wake up.
> I am looking for your comments on the following two books:
>
> 1. Scientific Qigong Exploration
>      by Zuyin Lu
>
> 2. Qigong: Chinese Medicine or Pseudoscience?
>      by Zixin Lin et al
>
>    Victor >>
>Any tips on how I can get my hands on these 2 books?
>

#72 From: Kevin Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Thu Jun 15, 2000 10:07 pm
Subject: Are you looking for master to do Qigong research?
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Dear friends,

I have had agreement with a few Qigong masters to conduct scientific
research with me to test Qigong and its effects.  However, I have not been
unable to bring in enough research fund to conduct the proposed research at
this moment.  Therefore, if you have a sound research plan but have problem
in finding a good Qigong master, you may contact me for possible
collaboration.  Most likely the Qigong master will not charge anything for
research itself, but we need come up some money to cover the travels and
expense. Get the picture?

Have a good summer!

Kevin

#73 From: matthew_klee@...
Date: Fri Jun 16, 2000 12:35 pm
Subject: RE: Are you looking for master to do Qigong research ?
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You may want to contact Gary J. Clyman at www.chikung.com.

He's busy, but may welcome a distraction for the betterment of the cause.

Matthew Klee

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Chen [mailto:chenke@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 6:08 PM
To: Int'l Forum for Qigong Research
Subject: [qiresearch] Are you looking for master to do Qigong research?


Dear friends,

I have had agreement with a few Qigong masters to conduct scientific
research with me to test Qigong and its effects.  However, I have not been
unable to bring in enough research fund to conduct the proposed research at
this moment.  Therefore, if you have a sound research plan but have problem
in finding a good Qigong master, you may contact me for possible
collaboration.  Most likely the Qigong master will not charge anything for
research itself, but we need come up some money to cover the travels and
expense. Get the picture?

Have a good summer!

Kevin

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#74 From: "Jingduan Yang" <Jingduan.Yang@...>
Date: Fri Jun 16, 2000 1:13 pm
Subject: RE: Are you looking for master to do Qigong research ?
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Dear Friends:

An interesting research papaer by scientists in UC-Davis is posted on June 15
at www.minghui.ca in both Chinese and English. You may like to check it out. JD

#75 From: "Kenneth M. Sancier, Qigong Institute" <matsu@...>
Date: Mon Jun 26, 2000 5:42 pm
Subject: Live broadcast: Scientific basis Medical qigong,
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Kenneth Sancier, President, Qigong Institute,will be interviewed in a
live broadcast on the topic:

"Scientific Basis of Medical Qigong"

July 6, 7 to 8 pm EDT on Station WALE 990 AM, Providence, Rhode Island.



Kenneth M. Sancier, PhD
President, Qigong Institute

The Qigong Institute aims to serve the public through educational and
research programs. The information we provide is supported by memberships,
sale of materials, and donations. Please visit our website
http://www.qigonginstitute.org

#76 From: Hanlin Academy <hanlin@...>
Date: Fri Jun 30, 2000 3:18 pm
Subject: Qigong conference invitation
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Hello,

	 Hanlin Academy is pleased to invite you to take part in the
International Symposium and the Third National Qigong Conference
“MAN AND NATURE IN THE NEW CENTURY”, which will be held on July 28, 29
and 30, 2000 in the retreat Tzigov Chark, Batak, Bulgaria.

	 We choosed as a place for the conference Orbita Hotel and the beautiful
natural surroundings of Batak lake in Rodopi mountain (1150 m above sea
level), which fully correspond to the theme of the conference - the
inner-relations between Man and Nature.

	 The major theme of the conference is the science of qigong and it
includes several areas of concentration: Ecology, Philosophy, Medicine,
and Martial Arts.

	 The registration fee for the conference is USD$ 150.  Please transfer
the registration fee to T.C. Ziraat Bankasi-Sofia branch, account No.
10108753 with T.C. Ziraat Bankasi, 330 Madison Avenue, 32 ND Floor, New
York, NY 10017, USA, Tel. + 1-212-5575612-14, Fax: + 1-212-4908076,
Telex: (023) 1-212-426674 ZBNB, SWIFT TCZBUS33, in favour of Hanlin
Academy, Account No. 1110033007.

	 Hotel accommodation is available at Orbita Hotel and the nearby
Panorama Hotel for USD$ 12 per night per person (standart room).  For
room reservations, please contact Orbita Hotel: Tel.00359-03542-3385;
00359-03542-3386, Fax 00359-03542-3200 and Panorama Hotel: Tel:
00359-03553-2064, Fax 00359-03553-2318.

For more information and confirmation, please contact us by:
Email: hanlin_academy@... ;  hanlin@...
Tel: 00359-2-242271
Fax: 00359-2-988-5349 (c/o Anna Pecheva)
Address: P.O. Box 1693, Sofia - 1000, Bulgaria, c/o Maria Pecheva

Welcome!

The Organizing Committee

#77 From: Hanlin Academy <hanlin@...>
Date: Sat Jul 1, 2000 7:25 am
Subject: Qigong Proficiency Examination & Certificate
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Qigong Training and Certificate Announcement

    In order to enhance the development of the international qigong work,
the Chinese State Qigong Administration Bureau authorizes Hanlin Academy
to organize for a first time outside China qigong proficiency
examinations for those who want to receive Qigong Master Proficiency
Certificate.
    The Chinese State Qigong Administration Bureau is a part of the
Chinese Ministry of Sports and is the only elligible qigong center in
China that can issue official state level certificates to Chinese and
foreign qigong professionals. It is a matter of recognition and
privilage to receive such certificate.  Hanlin Academy is an
international scientific and educational qigong center, which is
governed by scientific council of highly trained Chinese experts with
long term experience.
    Everyone, who has been practicing Chinese qigong more than two years,
can take part in the examination.  He will receive Qigong Master
Certificate - III Level and will have the privilege to participate in
qigong activities organized by Hanlin Academy in China and other regions
of the world, in joint scientific research and will be able to advance
his qualifications to II and I Level qigong master.
    Hanlin Academy is open to cooperate with all national or
international associations that want to organize the obtaining of Qigong
Master Certificates for its members.
    Hanlin Academy organizes qigong training courses in its base in
Bulgaria.  If necessery, it is also possible to be sent visiting
highly-trained Chinese qigong specialists in the respective countries.

Conditions and organization of the examination:

1. The examination is taken by correspondence and represents answers to
definite questions.  The examination paper sent to you on your request,
should be filled up and sent back to Hanlin Academy by mail, fax or
email.
2. In order to receive the examination paper, please send a request for
participation in the examination to:
	 Email: hanlin@...   or  hanlin_academy@...
	 Fax: 00359-2-9885349   ;    Tel: 00359-2-242271
	 Address: c/o Maria Pecheva, P.O. Box 1693
                Sofia - 1000, Bulgaria
3. Please send a deposit of USD$ 20 (examination paper fee) or transfer
the total of USD$ 280 (for the examination paper fee and the certificate
fee) to T.C. Ziraat Bankasi-Sofia branch, account No. 10108753 with T.C.
Ziraat Bankasi, 330 Madison Avenue, 32 ND Floor, New York, NY 10017,
USA, Tel. + 1-212-5575612-14, Fax: + 1-212-4908076, Telex: (023)
1-212-426674 ZBNB, SWIFT TCZBUS33, in favour of Hanlin Academy, Account
No. 1110033007.
4. Please send two passport size photos to: c/o Maria Pecheva, P.O. Box
1693, Sofia - 1000, Bulgaria.
5. Please state your mailing address, on which to be sent the
certificate.

    If you need more explanations, we would be happy to answer you.

Hanlin Academy

#78 From: KlatuBN@...
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2000 4:42 pm
Subject: Qigong practitoners in Montreal
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Dear Community,
A friend of mine raised the following query.  Can anyone help with info?

  I have a woman friend in Montreal Canada, Who just informed me that her
husband was recently diagnosed with Lymphatic Cancer (i.e., Lymph Nodes) Do
you have any contacts with any groups in the Montreal area with whom they can
consult and exercise with?

Thank you
Ken Gray

#79 From: Frances Gander <fgander@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 2:20 am
Subject: Re: Qigong practitoners in Montreal
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Re:  Qigong in Montreal:
Although I don't know of groups there, I suggest you contact Francesco
Garripoli:
francesco@....  He is in Toronto, but he may have some contacts
in Montreal.
--
Frances Lea Gander, L.Ac.
Three Treasures Health Services
www.carr.org/~fgander

KlatuBN@... wrote:

> Dear Community,
> A friend of mine raised the following query.  Can anyone help with info?
>
>  I have a woman friend in Montreal Canada, Who just informed me that her
> husband was recently diagnosed with Lymphatic Cancer (i.e., Lymph Nodes) Do
> you have any contacts with any groups in the Montreal area with whom they can
> consult and exercise with?
>
> Thank you
> Ken Gray
>
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#80 From: "Kenneth M. Sancier, Qigong Institute" <matsu@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 4:50 am
Subject: Re: Qigong practitoners in Montreal
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I suggest you post your message on the Qigong Institute free Email service:

qigonginstitute@...

Also, please check the lists of practitioners on two web sites:

www.qigonginstitute.org
and
www.nqa.org

Good luck,




>Dear Community,
>A friend of mine raised the following query.  Can anyone help with info?
>
> I have a woman friend in Montreal Canada, Who just informed me that her
>husband was recently diagnosed with Lymphatic Cancer (i.e., Lymph Nodes) Do
>you have any contacts with any groups in the Montreal area with whom they can
>consult and exercise with?
>
>Thank you
>Ken Gray
>
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President, Qigong Institute

The Qigong Institute aims to serve the public through educational and
research programs. The information we provide is supported by memberships,
sale of materials, and donations. Please visit our website
http://www.qigonginstitute.org

#81 From: Kevin Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 3:02 pm
Subject: Re: Qigong practitioners in Montreal
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Hi, Ken,

I don't know any form of Qigong that has openly challenged cancer except
one -- Taiji Five-element Qigong.  Zhineng Qigong used to treat cancer, but
now it changed its tone (see www.chilel.com).  If your friend is seriously
looking for alternative medicine, she may want to take a look at
www.masterhe.com first, then give master Binhui He a call at 732-563-4884.
She can come to New Jersey to attend the WISH intensive training, get some
substantial helps.  WISH (World Institute for Self Healing) training class
has had two big groups of Canadian students recently, she may call for the
references.

Best wishes!

Kevin

P.S.  If anybody is interested in a research on Qigong therapy for cancer,
please contact me for more details.

At 04:42 PM 07/05/2000 EDT, you wrote:
>Dear Community,
>A friend of mine raised the following query.  Can anyone help with info?
>
> I have a woman friend in Montreal Canada, Who just informed me that her
>husband was recently diagnosed with Lymphatic Cancer (i.e., Lymph Nodes) Do
>you have any contacts with any groups in the Montreal area with whom they
can
>consult and exercise with?
>
>Thank you
>Ken Gray

#82 From: martyeisen@...
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Qigong practitioners in Montreal
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Nearly every form of Qigong claims to have treated cancer.

#83 From: "Michael Winn" <winn.tao@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2000 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Qigong practitoners in Montreal
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Nicole Tremblay is an acupucturist and qigong instructor in
montreal. Her info can be had at HealingTaoUSA.com site under
instructor listings.
Michael winn


> Dear Community,
> A friend of mine raised the following query.  Can anyone help with
info?
>
>  I have a woman friend in Montreal Canada, Who just informed me that
her
>
> husband was recently diagnosed with Lymphatic Cancer (i.e., Lymph
Nodes)
> Do
> you have any contacts with any groups in the Montreal area with whom
> they can
> consult and exercise with?
>
> Thank you
> Ken Gray
>
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#84 From: Kevin Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Mon Jul 10, 2000 10:01 pm
Subject: FYI: First National Conference on Bigu
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FYI: A report of Bigu Conference:
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"The New Century First National Conference on the Bigu Manifestation,
   Health Effects and Scientific Research of Yan Xin Qigong" was held
   at Penn State University
   (based on the Press Release by the IYXQA)

From June 23 to June 25, 2000, over 500 enthusiastic scientists and
scholars descended on the picturesque campus of Penn State University
for a large scientific conference on the Qigong phenomena. Sponsored by the
STS Program of Penn State University, the University of Arizona Program
in Integrative Medicine, Friends of Health, together with IYXQA
Scientific
Research & Health Departments, this conference was proposed and chaired
by Prof. Rustum Roy, a senior member of the National Academy of
Engineering
and the founding Director of Materials Research Laboratory at the
Penn State University.

Officially titled "The New Century First National Conference on the Bigu
Manifestation (without food), Health Effects and Scientific Research of
Yan Xin Qigong.", this Conference formally introduces to the Western
academic community, step-by-step, the Bigu phenomenon in Yan Xin Qigong,
(see website at www.yanxinqigong.net) as well as related major
scientific
research results. It is also a scientific discourse within the Eastern
and Western philosophical and scientific systems that will add
significantly to human health and world peace.

Prof. Roy holds Yan Xin Qigong in high regards. He thinks the discoveries
from scientific experiments in Yan Xin Qigong may open a new world in
integrative science. In 1999, "Materials Research Innovation", published
a paper on some of the results obtained by Dr. Yan Xin and collaborating
scientists. The results indicate that the external qi of Qigong may
affect changes in the nature and properties of certain materials.

The conference attracted many senior scientists including Prof. Rustum
Roy,
Prof. Hans-Peter Duerr, successor and colleague of Werner Heisenberg
(founder of quantum physics), and past Director of Max-Planck Institute
of Theoretical Physics in Munich (Albert Einstein was its first director),
Prof. Della M. Roy, materials scientist, member of National Academy of
Engineering, Prof. Larry Brown, member of National Academy of sciences,
Prof. Jerry Wolf, Harvard Medical School, Prof. Joie Jones, physicist
and
professor of radiology, and Dr. Johanne Boisvert, program manager of
Quebec Agriculture Department, Canada. The majority of the attendees
have
advanced degrees in science and technology, including over 150 Ph.D.s.

Yan Xin Qigong belongs to a traditional, comprehensive and scientific
discipline newly formed and awaiting substantive exploration. The "Bigu"
phenomenon, which occurs among certain Qigong practitioners, entails the
cessation of eating solid food for periods of weeks to months and years
while maintaining a normal function of daily life. During Bigu, people
also experienced increased energy, mental clarity, and physical
well-being and strength.

About 50 scientific presentations were presented, including individual
Bigu case reports, experimental studies of Bigu at cell level, qigong
health effects, effects of qigong in physical, chemical and life science
as well as industrial application of qigong. People from all walks of life
reported their Bigu experience, including medical doctors and university
professors. One of the more dramatic findings presented at this conference
was the research that showed the chemical difference and metabolic
response that differentiates the Bigu state from fasting.

The chair of the conference, Professor Roy, described Dr. Yan Xin's
scientific work on Qigong as "good science". The same view is shared by
several senior scientists at the conference. Dr. Yan Xin's work is
"within my window of acceptance," proclaimed Dr. Hans-Peter Duerr, The data on
Bigu are "convincing", said Prof. Jerry Wolf.  Prof. Joie Jones described
the data as "significant". Prof. Della M. Roy stated that the results are
overwhelming and credible.

The conference received good will letters from presidential candidate
George Bush, Mayor of Philadelphia John Street, Nobel Laureate Herbert
Hauptman, Chinese Consulate General in New York, Stephen Straus, the
Director for National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine
in NIH, among many others.
________________________________________________________________________

#85 From: "Kenneth M. Sancier, Qigong Institute" <matsu@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2000 5:55 pm
Subject: (No subject)
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Effect of Qi-training on blood pressure, heart rate and respiration rate.

Lee MS, Kim BG, Huh HJ, Ryu H, Lee HS, Chung HT

Department of Qi-Medicine, Institute of Biotechnology, Wonkwang
University, Iksan 570-749, Republic of Korea.

To examine the physiological effects of Korean traditional
Qi-training, we investigated the changes in blood pressure, heart and
respiratory rates before, during and after ChunDoSunBup (CDSB)
Qi-training. Twelve normal healthy CDSB Qi-trainees (19-37 years old;
trained for 1.3 +/- 0.2 years; 9 men and 3 women) volunteered to
participate in this study. Heart rate, respiratory rate, systolic
blood pressure and rate-pressure product were significantly decreased
during Qi-training. From these results, we suggest that CDSB
Qi-training has physiological effects that indicate stabilization of
cardiovascular system.

Kenneth M. Sancier, PhD
President, Qigong Institute

The Qigong Institute aims to serve the public through educational and
research programs. The information we provide is supported by memberships,
sale of materials, and donations. Please visit our website
http://www.qigonginstitute.org

#86 From: "Kenneth M. Sancier, Qigong Institute" <matsu@...>
Date: Sun Jul 30, 2000 1:12 am
Subject: Qigong in Prisons
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Kenneth M. Sancier, Ph.D.
The Qigong Institute
561 Berkeley Avenue, Menlo Park, CA 94025
tel/fax 650-323-1221
E-mail: qi@...
Web site: www.qigonginstitute.org



July 29, 2000

Phillip Taylor 164012
Potosi Correction Center
Rt 2, Box 2222 (3A-42)
Mineral Point, MO 63660

Dear Phillip:

Thank you for your letter and for the fine ideas you expressed. I
agree that qigong and TCM principles would be good to introduce into
the prison system. I am sure that there would be many benefits.

I know of only one research study, in Shanghai, China. Perhaps there
are others elsewhere. There should be more, especially in the USA. I
plan to let people in the qigong world know about your suggestions.
For example, the Qigong Institute has a free Email service that is
subscribed to by about 250 people who are interested in qigong and
another free Email service for those interested in qigong research. I
shall present your ideas on those services and see what sort of
response we get. If we do, I shall let you know.

Best wishes to you.

Cordially,




Kenneth M. Sancier, Ph.D.
President
   Qigong in Prisons: teaching & research

An inmate at a correctional facility in Missouri wrote to suggest
that a research program be designed for introducing qigong and TCM
principles in prisons. He reminded me that in the USA presently there
are 2 million people in prisons, and another 3.4 million on probation
& parole in prisons and juvenile detention centers. Of the 2 million,
over 50% are non-violent offenders, 38% are under the age of 20, and
150,000 are females.

He states that there are policies and procedures within prisons that
allow organizations or individuals to establish research projects,
workshops, seminars, retreats, and courses.  Further, he says that
there are research grants for such programs.

The only such study that I am aware of is sponsored by the Qigong
Research Institute in Shanghai, China.  If you know of anyone who
might be interested in such a program,  I will help you contact the
inmate who wrote to me. Being on the inside, he may have some ideas
about procedures and approaches.

Ken Sancier, Director of Research & Past President, Qigong Institute



Kenneth M. Sancier, PhD
Director Research, Qigong Institute

The Qigong Institute aims to serve the public through educational and
research programs. The information we provide is supported by memberships,
sale of materials, and donations. Please visit our website
http://www.qigonginstitute.org

#87 From: Kevin Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Fri Aug 11, 2000 10:08 pm
Subject: Draft Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healer in Research
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Hi,

I guess the following guidelines may interest you one way or other.  This
is the first job I am doing as the new research director of the Qigong
Institute.  I hope that you will offer me your comments and suggestions
soon so that we will have some better ideas in how to select the right
Qigong healer or master in our research projects.

Thank you for your attention!

Kevin Chen

==========
Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healers
in Scientific Research of Qigong  (Draft)

The Qigong Institute

	 In the view of the fact that there is no recognized certificate or
licensing system for Qigong healers or Qigong masters in the U.S., nor in
China, the Qigong Institute has developed the following guidelines to help
research scientists who are interested in Qigong research to select the
appropriate Qigong healers or masters in their scientific exploration of
Qigong.

	 In general, a good Qigong healer or master should meet at least three of
the following seven criteria:

1. A specially invited member or director of the Chinese Society of Qigong
Science (about 1000+ of such members existing in China who have been
officially evaluated by the Society).

2. A recorded history of scientific research (with published paper(s) or
certified report(s)).

3. A member of the national or international professional Qigong
organization(s).

4. A formal disciple of the traceable and renowned Qigong master or Qigong
tradition, such as lineage holder or representative of a special form.

5. A solid medical training or background, and preferably belonging to some
kind of national organization of medical practitioners.

6. Does not currently have any verifiable negative claim against him/her in
the field.

7. Have an established Qigong healing practice in this country (Some may be
visitors with similar qualifications in their home country).

August 8, 2000



:-)  :-)
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#88 From: "Shu Kangmin" <ykshu@...>
Date: Sat Aug 12, 2000 4:55 am
Subject: discuss about the standard of Qigong healer
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Hi Kevin Chen:
 
  I have seen your listed standard to evaluate Qigong healer.I would like to discuss the problem with you. It is very good to established a scientific method for Qigong master`s judgement.In China, some researchers have done work to evaluate Qigong master`s ability by experience containing "Qi" examination.If one standard to evaluate Qigong master can be established, researchers of Qigong will may make Qigong research easily.
  There are several hundred kinds of Qigong which have been spreading in people in China,in the Qigong kinds, anyone master can not claim that he or her is lineage holder. I know some masters. They have very good skill on Qigong,but they don`t add on anyone Qigong organization,they don`t need to be recognized by anyone institute,such as my teachers. They don`t like to show their skill, but I have learnt hight skill from them. I have seen some Qigong master who have been recognized by some institutes, they claimed that they were lineage holders, but I have found that their skills of Qigong are poor.Some master have very strong ability to discharge "Qi"(vital energy), but they never treat client with their skill for they are not medical doctors.
  I think to evaluate the ability of a Qigong master, someone need to grasp the skill. If someone never get the experience on emitting "Qi"to treat client,they will have not ability to judge a master on emitting "Qi"treatment.
  Sum up, I think that as a judge of Qigong master,healer and researcher,first, he must have good skill on Qigong,rich experience on emitting "Qi" treatment and some researching work on Qigong.If you judge one master base on only lineage holder and being a menber of society, many excellent masters will be removed before you see or learn them.
 
                             Shu Kangmin
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Hi,

I guess the following guidelines may interest you one way or other.  This
is the first job I am doing as the new research director of the Qigong
Institute.  I hope that you will offer me your comments and suggestions
soon so that we will have some better ideas in how to select the right
Qigong healer or master in our research projects.

Thank you for your attention!

Kevin Chen

==========
Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healers
in Scientific Research of Qigong  (Draft)

The Qigong Institute

      In the view of the fact that there is no recognized certificate or
licensing system for Qigong healers or Qigong masters in the U.S., nor in
China, the Qigong Institute has developed the following guidelines to help
research scientists who are interested in Qigong research to select the
appropriate Qigong healers or masters in their scientific exploration of
Qigong.  

      In general, a good Qigong healer or master should meet at least three of
the following seven criteria:

1. A specially invited member or director of the Chinese Society of Qigong
Science (about 1000+ of such members existing in China who have been
officially evaluated by the Society).

2. A recorded history of scientific research (with published paper(s) or
certified report(s)).

3. A member of the national or international professional Qigong
organization(s).

4. A formal disciple of the traceable and renowned Qigong master or Qigong
tradition, such as lineage holder or representative of a special form.

5. A solid medical training or background, and preferably belonging to some
kind of national organization of medical practitioners.

6. Does not currently have any verifiable negative claim against him/her in
the field.

7. Have an established Qigong healing practice in this country (Some may be
visitors with similar qualifications in their home country).

August 8, 2000



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#89 From: savva@...
Date: Sun Aug 13, 2000 2:25 am
Subject: Re: discuss about the standard of Qigong healer
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In a message dated 8/12/00 7:00:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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<< Subj:     [qiresearch] discuss about the standard of Qigong healer
  Date:  8/12/00 7:00:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time
  From:  ykshu@... (Shu Kangmin)
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  To:    chenke@...
  CC:    qiresearch@egroups.com

  Hi Kevin Chen:

    I have seen your listed standard to evaluate Qigong healer.I would like to
discuss the problem with you. It is very good to established a scientific
method for Qigong master`s judgement.In China, some researchers have done
work to evaluate Qigong master`s ability by experience containing "Qi"
examination.If one standard to evaluate Qigong master can be established,
researchers of Qigong will may make Qigong research easily.
    There are several hundred kinds of Qigong which have been spreading in
people in China,in the Qigong kinds, anyone master can not claim that he or
her is lineage holder. I know some masters. They have very good skill on
Qigong,but they don`t add on anyone Qigong organization,they don`t need to be
recognized by anyone institute,such as my teachers. They don`t like to show
their skill, but I have learnt hight skill from them. I have seen some Qigong
master who have been recognized by some institutes, they claimed that they
were lineage holders, but I have found that their skills of Qigong are
poor.Some master have very strong ability to discharge "Qi"(vital energy),
but they never treat client with their skill for they are not medical doctors.
    I think to evaluate the ability of a Qigong master, someone need to grasp
the skill. If someone never get the experience on emitting "Qi"to treat
client,they will have not ability to judge a master on emitting "Qi"treatment.
    Sum up, I think that as a judge of Qigong master,healer and
researcher,first, he must have good skill on Qigong,rich experience on
emitting "Qi" treatment and some researching work on Qigong.If you judge one
master base on only lineage holder and being a menber of society, many
excellent masters will be removed before you see or learn them.

                               Shu Kangmin >>

The only objective evaluation of a healet (including Qigong masters) can be
done based on the outcome of a clinical trial. Funding provided, a
specialized medical facility with a proper diagnostic base can be established
or engaged to conduct such clinical trials. A gifted master can give a
prejudgement only. So, who will pay?

Savely Savva

#90 From: "Dr. Eugene R. Wallace, Ph.D." <ewallace@...>
Date: Sun Aug 13, 2000 7:00 am
Subject: RE: Draft Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healer in Research
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Dear Kevin Chen,

Nine members of my immediate family have died of cancer as I watched
traditional American doctors, with all their skill, love, and training, try
valiantly to save them.  Thay is why, twenty years ago, I began exploring
alternative practices and began to learn Qigong. At the time I was a black
belt in a hard style of karate, and was lucky to have an instructor who had
been taught a Qigong style which he has never desired to talk about; he only
states he learned it during the years he was in the U.S. military in the
1970's.

I became fascinated with the healing art of Qigong and have devoted myself
to its research ever since. After years of training, my instructor awarded
me a master certification through his karate organization. Although he has
trained thousands of karatika, I am the only person he ever chose to train
in the Qigong healing art.

Over the past twenty years I have helped many people with Qigong healing
energy.  I do not charge people because I am not a medical doctor, so it is
illegal in the U.S. Still I do it, because I like to help people, especially
if they cannot afford to get help any other way, or if medical science have
not been able to help them. During that time I have not had one complaint,
and I have never hurt anyone. No false hope, no guarantees. Every person I
have helped has come to me and asked me for help. Word of mouth is the only
way I've ever performed healing Qigong.

I could have been an MD or an OMD; instead, I wanted to understand how human
energy works. So after a bachelors degree, a masters degree in engineering,
a masters degree in psychology, and a Ph.D. in human science, majoring in
life physics -- with scores of classes in Western anatomy and physiology,
psychology, Oriental medicine and meridian research, engineering,
mathematics, and physics -- I now perform human energy research. Even
without lineage or medical degree, I have been chosen as resident faculty at
an institute that researches human energy; have repeatedly preformed
successful Qigong experiments in controlled laboratory conditions, and have
been permitted to present an all-day Master's Workshop at the November 1999
World Qigong Organization in San Francisco.

Subtle energy research has been my adult life's interest, but--even though I
have more training and education than some physicians--our laws are already
so strict that there is no way I could perform healing Qigong as a primary
vocation. Please do not try to make the laws stricter.

As a researcher, I have frequently observed that the most capable
practitioners have neither degree nor medical practice. Yet they have
repeatedly performed successfully in subtle energy experiments. What they do
have is talent and dedication to their art.

My recommendation concerning the selection of Qigong Masters for
experimental research purposes is simple.  Give anyone who asks a chance to
perform experiments under controlled conditions. Each person will either
exhibit the ability or they will not. If you still need convincing, obtain a
testimonial from the person who no longer has a cancerous tumour if the
practitioner was a Master, or the person who is out of chronic pain for the
first time in months. They will be the lineage you most desire.


Very truly yours,

Dr. Eugene R. Wallace, Ph.D.




-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Chen [mailto:chenke@...]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:09 PM
To: Int'l Forum for Qigong Research
Subject: [qiresearch] Draft Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healer in
Research


Hi,

I guess the following guidelines may interest you one way or other.  This
is the first job I am doing as the new research director of the Qigong
Institute.  I hope that you will offer me your comments and suggestions
soon so that we will have some better ideas in how to select the right
Qigong healer or master in our research projects.

Thank you for your attention!

Kevin Chen

==========
Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healers
in Scientific Research of Qigong  (Draft)

The Qigong Institute

	 In the view of the fact that there is no recognized certificate or
licensing system for Qigong healers or Qigong masters in the U.S., nor in
China, the Qigong Institute has developed the following guidelines to help
research scientists who are interested in Qigong research to select the
appropriate Qigong healers or masters in their scientific exploration of
Qigong.

	 In general, a good Qigong healer or master should meet at least three of
the following seven criteria:

1. A specially invited member or director of the Chinese Society of Qigong
Science (about 1000+ of such members existing in China who have been
officially evaluated by the Society).

2. A recorded history of scientific research (with published paper(s) or
certified report(s)).

3. A member of the national or international professional Qigong
organization(s).

4. A formal disciple of the traceable and renowned Qigong master or Qigong
tradition, such as lineage holder or representative of a special form.

5. A solid medical training or background, and preferably belonging to some
kind of national organization of medical practitioners.

6. Does not currently have any verifiable negative claim against him/her in
the field.

7. Have an established Qigong healing practice in this country (Some may be
visitors with similar qualifications in their home country).

August 8, 2000



:-)  :-)
Kevin Chen, Ph.D. MPH.
Department of Psychiatry        Office:(973) 972-7225
UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School Fax:   (973) 972-8305
30 Bergen St. ADMC 1419         Home:  (732) 548-6535
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#91 From: rjahnke <rjahnke@...>
Date: Sun Aug 13, 2000 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: discuss about the standard of Qigong healer
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>All concerned on Qigong standards,

The letter from Shyu Kangmin has excellent points.

The National Qigong Association has, for the last three years,
convened an  annual Forum discussion on standards for both
instructors and healers. This Forum will convene again this year at
the NQA convention in Portland OR. I will be participating in that
Forum and will take the impressions of those who respond to that
meeting along with Dr Chen's original list.

I hope that Dr Chen may consider integrating his efforts with the
many others who have been dialoguing annually at the NQA on these
points.

Sincerely,

Roger Jahnke, OMD
Chair of Qi Cultivation Department, Santa Barbara College of Oriental Medicine
Chair of National Qigong Association

>In a message dated 8/12/00 7:00:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>ykshu@... writes:
>
><< Subj:     [qiresearch] discuss about the standard of Qigong healer
> Date:  8/12/00 7:00:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> From:  ykshu@... (Shu Kangmin)
> Reply-to:  qiresearch@egroups.com
> To:    chenke@...
> CC:    qiresearch@egroups.com
>
> Hi Kevin Chen:
>
>   I have seen your listed standard to evaluate Qigong healer.I would like to
>discuss the problem with you. It is very good to established a scientific
>method for Qigong master`s judgement.In China, some researchers have done
>work to evaluate Qigong master`s ability by experience containing "Qi"
>examination.If one standard to evaluate Qigong master can be established,
>researchers of Qigong will may make Qigong research easily.
>   There are several hundred kinds of Qigong which have been spreading in
>people in China,in the Qigong kinds, anyone master can not claim that he or
>her is lineage holder. I know some masters. They have very good skill on
>Qigong,but they don`t add on anyone Qigong organization,they don`t need to be
>recognized by anyone institute,such as my teachers. They don`t like to show
>their skill, but I have learnt hight skill from them. I have seen some Qigong
>master who have been recognized by some institutes, they claimed that they
>were lineage holders, but I have found that their skills of Qigong are
>poor.Some master have very strong ability to discharge "Qi"(vital energy),
>but they never treat client with their skill for they are not medical doctors.
>   I think to evaluate the ability of a Qigong master, someone need to grasp
>the skill. If someone never get the experience on emitting "Qi"to treat
>client,they will have not ability to judge a master on emitting "Qi"treatment.
>   Sum up, I think that as a judge of Qigong master,healer and
>researcher,first, he must have good skill on Qigong,rich experience on
>emitting "Qi" treatment and some researching work on Qigong.If you judge one
>master base on only lineage holder and being a menber of society, many
>excellent masters will be removed before you see or learn them.
>
>                              Shu Kangmin >>
>
>The only objective evaluation of a healet (including Qigong masters) can be
>done based on the outcome of a clinical trial. Funding provided, a
>specialized medical facility with a proper diagnostic base can be established
>or engaged to conduct such clinical trials. A gifted master can give a
>prejudgement only. So, who will pay?
>
>Savely Savva
>
>
>
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#92 From: rjahnke <rjahnke@...>
Date: Sun Aug 13, 2000 4:47 pm
Subject: RE: Draft Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healer in Research
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Second note,

This reply from Eugene Wallace is very reasonably stated.  While I am
sincerely aligned personally with favorite master teachers through
lineage, it seems most necessary in this new era of Qigong to have a
basis in in practical criterion with a foundation in simple research.

Roger Jahnke

>Dear Kevin Chen,
>
>Nine members of my immediate family have died of cancer as I watched
>traditional American doctors, with all their skill, love, and training, try
>valiantly to save them.  Thay is why, twenty years ago, I began exploring
>alternative practices and began to learn Qigong. At the time I was a black
>belt in a hard style of karate, and was lucky to have an instructor who had
>been taught a Qigong style which he has never desired to talk about; he only
>states he learned it during the years he was in the U.S. military in the
>1970's.
>
>I became fascinated with the healing art of Qigong and have devoted myself
>to its research ever since. After years of training, my instructor awarded
>me a master certification through his karate organization. Although he has
>trained thousands of karatika, I am the only person he ever chose to train
>in the Qigong healing art.
>
>Over the past twenty years I have helped many people with Qigong healing
>energy.  I do not charge people because I am not a medical doctor, so it is
>illegal in the U.S. Still I do it, because I like to help people, especially
>if they cannot afford to get help any other way, or if medical science have
>not been able to help them. During that time I have not had one complaint,
>and I have never hurt anyone. No false hope, no guarantees. Every person I
>have helped has come to me and asked me for help. Word of mouth is the only
>way I've ever performed healing Qigong.
>
>I could have been an MD or an OMD; instead, I wanted to understand how human
>energy works. So after a bachelors degree, a masters degree in engineering,
>a masters degree in psychology, and a Ph.D. in human science, majoring in
>life physics -- with scores of classes in Western anatomy and physiology,
>psychology, Oriental medicine and meridian research, engineering,
>mathematics, and physics -- I now perform human energy research. Even
>without lineage or medical degree, I have been chosen as resident faculty at
>an institute that researches human energy; have repeatedly preformed
>successful Qigong experiments in controlled laboratory conditions, and have
>been permitted to present an all-day Master's Workshop at the November 1999
>World Qigong Organization in San Francisco.
>
>Subtle energy research has been my adult life's interest, but--even though I
>have more training and education than some physicians--our laws are already
>so strict that there is no way I could perform healing Qigong as a primary
>vocation. Please do not try to make the laws stricter.
>
>As a researcher, I have frequently observed that the most capable
>practitioners have neither degree nor medical practice. Yet they have
>repeatedly performed successfully in subtle energy experiments. What they do
>have is talent and dedication to their art.
>
>My recommendation concerning the selection of Qigong Masters for
>experimental research purposes is simple.  Give anyone who asks a chance to
>perform experiments under controlled conditions. Each person will either
>exhibit the ability or they will not. If you still need convincing, obtain a
>testimonial from the person who no longer has a cancerous tumour if the
>practitioner was a Master, or the person who is out of chronic pain for the
>first time in months. They will be the lineage you most desire.
>
>
>Very truly yours,
>
>Dr. Eugene R. Wallace, Ph.D.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Chen [mailto:chenke@...]
>Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 3:09 PM
>To: Int'l Forum for Qigong Research
>Subject: [qiresearch] Draft Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healer in
>Research
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I guess the following guidelines may interest you one way or other.  This
>is the first job I am doing as the new research director of the Qigong
>Institute.  I hope that you will offer me your comments and suggestions
>soon so that we will have some better ideas in how to select the right
>Qigong healer or master in our research projects.
>
>Thank you for your attention!
>
>Kevin Chen
>
>==========
>Guidelines for Selecting Qigong Healers
>in Scientific Research of Qigong  (Draft)
>
>The Qigong Institute
>
> In the view of the fact that there is no recognized certificate or
>licensing system for Qigong healers or Qigong masters in the U.S., nor in
>China, the Qigong Institute has developed the following guidelines to help
>research scientists who are interested in Qigong research to select the
>appropriate Qigong healers or masters in their scientific exploration of
>Qigong.
>
> In general, a good Qigong healer or master should meet at
>least three of
>the following seven criteria:
>
>1. A specially invited member or director of the Chinese Society of Qigong
>Science (about 1000+ of such members existing in China who have been
>officially evaluated by the Society).
>
>2. A recorded history of scientific research (with published paper(s) or
>certified report(s)).
>
>3. A member of the national or international professional Qigong
>organization(s).
>
>4. A formal disciple of the traceable and renowned Qigong master or Qigong
>tradition, such as lineage holder or representative of a special form.
>
>5. A solid medical training or background, and preferably belonging to some
>kind of national organization of medical practitioners.
>
>6. Does not currently have any verifiable negative claim against him/her in
>the field.
>
>7. Have an established Qigong healing practice in this country (Some may be
>visitors with similar qualifications in their home country).
>
>August 8, 2000
>
>
>
>:-)  :-)
>Kevin Chen, Ph.D. MPH.
>Department of Psychiatry        Office:(973) 972-7225
>UMDNJ-New Jersey Medical School Fax:   (973) 972-8305
>30 Bergen St. ADMC 1419         Home:  (732) 548-6535
>Newark,  NJ 07107-3007          E-mail: chenke@...
>
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#93 From: Kevin Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Mon Aug 14, 2000 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: Discussion about the standard of Qigong healer
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Wow, I am glad to hear so many comments and criticism -- I appreciate every
one of them!  This really shows that many are concerned about the criteria
to select a good Qigong healer or master in research!

Given the fact that we do not have any equipment that can accurately
measure the strength or effectiveness of internal or external Qi, and the
fact that there is no recognized certificate or licensing system in Qigong
field that can help us to defend our selection of Qigong healer, we have to
set some criteria to help ourselves to select Qigong healer or master to
conduct the serious research in order to forward this important field.

I am sure that everyone knows that it must be very very difficult to set up
an objective criteria to select Qigong healers or masters, that may be why
China has failed to do so after twenty years of efforts, so does NQA in the
U.S..  Fortunately, we did not try to set up the criteria to issue Qigong
healer certificate or license at this moment, we do not have to be that
much responsible for taking criticism from Qigong masters at this moment --
we are just trying to help them getting into the mainstream research and
medicine through our persistent works.

Can we conduct research without such a guideline?  of course, we can, we
have been doing this all the times, didn't we?  You are free to continue
this way on your own if you prefer.  No one will blame you to choose a
specific master or healer in your own research without a selection
criterion, if you are using your own money and time.

However, if you want to apply for grant(s) from federal government or some
private foundations to conduct serious Qigong research, you may be asked to
provide the criteria for selecting the specific Qigong master or healer(s)
in your proposal.  Since we know we do not have certificate or licensing
program like acupuncture or other CAM field does, therefore, we may put
ourselves in a big disadvantage to access those research funds if we do not
have an widely acceptable criteria in selecting appropriate Qigong healer
or master in the field....  Aha, now you see my true motivation to set up
such a guideline. :-)

If these guidelines will really help us to select the right Qigong master
in our research, I am sure we will all be happy about that.

If you truly believe that there is a great master out there who may not
meet three of these criteria, but you would really want him/her in your
research, like the cases mentioned by Dr. Shu and Dr. Wallace.  I guess, if
you have no problem convincing the master to participate in you research, I
have no problem making them meet three of the seven criteria we set up so
far. Here is how:  (1) You can conduct some pilot study with him/her on
your own before submitting proposal so as to get some preliminary data to
meet the criterion #2; (I am sure you have no problem in certifying your
own data). (2) I assume he or she did not create the Qigong form of his own
if he/she is a real master, therefore, you can list his/her master's
reputation name or uniqueness of Qigong so as to meet criterion #4; (3) if
he/she is so private (did not participate in any national Qigong
organization, did not have an established Qigong practice), he/she must not
have any verifiable negative claims against him/her in the field, so he/she
meets the criterion #6.  Bang! you just get a "qualified" Qigong master in
your proposal!

Now, you got the picture.  I hope that we will get some concrete
suggestions on what we should add, or what we should eliminate if any, in
this current listing, so that we can make this listing helpful, but not
restricting, to all of us to further Qigong-related research.

All best wishes!

Kevin Chen, Ph.D.  MPH
Research Director of the Qigong Institute

At 09:41 AM 08/13/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>All concerned on Qigong standards,
>
>The letter from Shyu Kangmin has excellent points.
>
>The National Qigong Association has, for the last three years,
>convened an  annual Forum discussion on standards for both
>instructors and healers. This Forum will convene again this year at
>the NQA convention in Portland OR. I will be participating in that
>Forum and will take the impressions of those who respond to that
>meeting along with Dr Chen's original list.
>
>I hope that Dr Chen may consider integrating his efforts with the
>many others who have been dialoguing annually at the NQA on these
>points.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Roger Jahnke, OMD
>Chair of Qi Cultivation Department, Santa Barbara College of Oriental
Medicine
>Chair of National Qigong Association
>

#94 From: savva@...
Date: Mon Aug 14, 2000 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Discussion about the standard of Qigong healer
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  Date:  8/14/00 9:08:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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  To:    qiresearch@egroups.com

  Wow, I am glad to hear so many comments and criticism -- I appreciate every
  one of them!  This really shows that many are concerned about the criteria
  to select a good Qigong healer or master in research! >>

If I were to select a Qigong Wayqi master for a research program with a
chance to be funded, I would
- first formulate the objective of the study: to verify clinical efficacy of
the given master or to study the biofield, to shed light on the mechanism of
the biofield interaction and the general control system of the organism. The
latter, in my opinion, has a much greater social value.
- Then, I would find a healer with a medically proven record in a particular
class of pathology.
- Finally, I would emphasize the methodological difference between studying
Qigong (biofield) treatment and studying the effect of a material remedy or a
standardizable therapeutic procedure (randomized, double-blind,
placebo-controlled clinical trial).

I doubt that the first objective can be sufficiently funded by the Government
or private capital. At least I did not have luck in my efforts. However, a
Qigong organization may raise funds for establishing a special medical clinic
with MDs and a contemporary diagnostic facility for conducting clinical
trials of Qigong masters.

Savely Savva

#95 From: rjahnke <rjahnke@...>
Date: Tue Aug 15, 2000 11:24 pm
Subject: Re: Discussion about the standard of Qigong healer
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>Kevin,

The rationale that you present is reasonable, particularly given the
funding context. We need to do the research, funding is necessary,
criterion for choosing participants is required. So, the criterion
you have so far is an excellent starting place. It is likely that the
issues presented by Shu and Wallace will be easier to  to manage as
more of the research data is acquired through your good work.

Thanks for the contributions of both yourself and Qigong Institute,

Roger J

>Wow, I am glad to hear so many comments and criticism -- I appreciate every
>one of them!  This really shows that many are concerned about the criteria
>to select a good Qigong healer or master in research!
>
>Given the fact that we do not have any equipment that can accurately
>measure the strength or effectiveness of internal or external Qi, and the
>fact that there is no recognized certificate or licensing system in Qigong
>field that can help us to defend our selection of Qigong healer, we have to
>set some criteria to help ourselves to select Qigong healer or master to
>conduct the serious research in order to forward this important field.
>
>I am sure that everyone knows that it must be very very difficult to set up
>an objective criteria to select Qigong healers or masters, that may be why
>China has failed to do so after twenty years of efforts, so does NQA in the
>U.S..  Fortunately, we did not try to set up the criteria to issue Qigong
>healer certificate or license at this moment, we do not have to be that
>much responsible for taking criticism from Qigong masters at this moment --
>we are just trying to help them getting into the mainstream research and
>medicine through our persistent works.
>
>Can we conduct research without such a guideline?  of course, we can, we
>have been doing this all the times, didn't we?  You are free to continue
>this way on your own if you prefer.  No one will blame you to choose a
>specific master or healer in your own research without a selection
>criterion, if you are using your own money and time.
>
>However, if you want to apply for grant(s) from federal government or some
>private foundations to conduct serious Qigong research, you may be asked to
>provide the criteria for selecting the specific Qigong master or healer(s)
>in your proposal.  Since we know we do not have certificate or licensing
>program like acupuncture or other CAM field does, therefore, we may put
>ourselves in a big disadvantage to access those research funds if we do not
>have an widely acceptable criteria in selecting appropriate Qigong healer
>or master in the field....  Aha, now you see my true motivation to set up
>such a guideline. :-)
>
>If these guidelines will really help us to select the right Qigong master
>in our research, I am sure we will all be happy about that.
>
>If you truly believe that there is a great master out there who may not
>meet three of these criteria, but you would really want him/her in your
>research, like the cases mentioned by Dr. Shu and Dr. Wallace.  I guess, if
>you have no problem convincing the master to participate in you research, I
>have no problem making them meet three of the seven criteria we set up so
>far. Here is how:  (1) You can conduct some pilot study with him/her on
>your own before submitting proposal so as to get some preliminary data to
>meet the criterion #2; (I am sure you have no problem in certifying your
>own data). (2) I assume he or she did not create the Qigong form of his own
>if he/she is a real master, therefore, you can list his/her master's
>reputation name or uniqueness of Qigong so as to meet criterion #4; (3) if
>he/she is so private (did not participate in any national Qigong
>organization, did not have an established Qigong practice), he/she must not
>have any verifiable negative claims against him/her in the field, so he/she
>meets the criterion #6.  Bang! you just get a "qualified" Qigong master in
>your proposal!
>
>Now, you got the picture.  I hope that we will get some concrete
>suggestions on what we should add, or what we should eliminate if any, in
>this current listing, so that we can make this listing helpful, but not
>restricting, to all of us to further Qigong-related research.
>
>All best wishes!
>
>Kevin Chen, Ph.D.  MPH
>Research Director of the Qigong Institute
>
>At 09:41 AM 08/13/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> >All concerned on Qigong standards,
> >
> >The letter from Shyu Kangmin has excellent points.
> >
> >The National Qigong Association has, for the last three years,
> >convened an  annual Forum discussion on standards for both
> >instructors and healers. This Forum will convene again this year at
> >the NQA convention in Portland OR. I will be participating in that
> >Forum and will take the impressions of those who respond to that
> >meeting along with Dr Chen's original list.
> >
> >I hope that Dr Chen may consider integrating his efforts with the
> >many others who have been dialoguing annually at the NQA on these
> >points.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Roger Jahnke, OMD
> >Chair of Qi Cultivation Department, Santa Barbara College of Oriental
>Medicine
> >Chair of National Qigong Association
> >
>
>
>
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#96 From: "Kenneth M. Sancier, Qigong Institute" <matsu@...>
Date: Thu Aug 17, 2000 6:18 am
Subject: Acupuncture research
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Often Qigong and accomplish the same goal as acupuncture, so the
following may suggest that qigong could moderate drug addiction:

Society for Acupuncture Research update from -
http://www.acupunctureresearch.org

"A Randomized Controlled Trial of Auricular Acupuncture for Cocaine
Dependence" has been published in the Archives of Internal Medicine (Arch
Intern Med. 2000;160:2305-2312).  To read the original article, go to
http://archinte.ama-assn.org/issues/v160n15/full/ioi90746.html

Abstract:
A Randomized Controlled Trial of Auricular Acupuncture for Cocaine
Dependence

S. Kelly Avants, PhD; Arthur Margolin, PhD; Theodore R. Holford, PhD;
Thomas R. Kosten, MD


Background  Partly because of a lack of a conventional, effective
treatment for cocaine addiction, auricular acupuncture is used to treat
this disorder in numerous drug treatment facilities across the country for
both primary cocaine-dependent and opiate-dependent populations.

Objective  To evaluate the effectiveness of auricular acupuncture for the
treatment of cocaine addiction.

Methods  Eighty-two cocaine-dependent, methadone-maintained patients were
randomly assigned to 1 of 3 conditions: auricular acupuncture, a
needle-insertion control condition, or a no-needle relaxation control.
Treatment sessions were provided 5 times weekly for 8 weeks. The primary
outcome was cocaine use assessed by 3-times-weekly urine toxicology
screens.

Results  Longitudinal analysis of the urine data for the intent-to-treat
sample showed that patients assigned to acupuncture were significantly
more likely to provide cocaine-negative urine samples relative to both the
relaxation control (odds ratio, 3.41; 95% confidence interval, 1.33-8.72;
P = .01) and the needle-insertion control (odds ratio, 2.40; 95%
confidence interval, 1.00-5.75; P = .05).

Conclusions  Findings from the current study suggest that acupuncture
shows promise for the treatment of cocaine dependence. Further
investigation of this treatment modality appears to be warranted.
Kenneth M. Sancier, PhD
Founder & Chairman, Board of Directors, Qigong Institute

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#97 From: Hanlin Academy <hanlin@...>
Date: Thu Aug 17, 2000 10:22 pm
Subject: Man & Nature Int'l Conference in China
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First International Conference
		 MAN  AND  NATURE  IN  THE  NEW  MILLENNIUM

					 November 27-29, 2000
   Donghaidao, Zhanjiang city, Guangdong province, China

					 Jointly organized
							 by

					  Hanlin Academy
					  Xinfuren Club
		    Donghaidao Municipality Government


	 The humanity has entered into the new millennium with the hope that the
21st century will become a different epoch.

	 Even before the ending of the past millennial cycle, the world leading
scientists have determined numerous coincidences in the teachings of the
ancient sages and the conclusions of the modern scientific experiments.
This has changed some understandings on the connections between Man and
Nature.  Yet, whether,  as a whole, in the view on this question and in
its behavior, the human society does not still remain on its old level?

	 What does represent the living matter and its place in the Universe?
How to restore the harmony between man and Nature?  What are the
possibilities to resolve the health problems of Homo Sapiens and
increase his adaptability toward the changing environment of Earth and
the Universe?  How to expand the cognitive potentials of the human
brain, in order to achieve new  breaks in the scientific knowledge and
stimulate the healthy development of the people of the Earth?  These are
part of the problems, which the Conference proposes for discussion,
regardless of position - whether holistic or from the point of view of
the concrete classical sciences, their integrative and frontier fields.

	 We invite scientists and the specialists in the spheres of Ecology and
Environmental Protection, Philosophy, Medicine (Western, Eastern,
Alternative), Biology, Physics and Quantum Physics, Chemistry, Life
Sciences, Qigong, the Sports and Health, Nutrition, Green foods and
healthy products and all other fields, connected with the study of the
relations between Man and Nature, to take part in the International
Conference on Man and Nature in the new millennium.


Conference location:  China, Guangdong province, Zhanjiang city,
Donghaidao, Longhaitian tourist retreat, Guantao Hotel (Guantao
dajiudian).

Registration: November 25th and 26th, Guantao Hotel

Opening Ceremony: November 27th, 09:00 AM, Guantao Hotel

Confirmation for participation: by October 31st.

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November 25th - 26th Registration (free program)

November 27th 	 Opening Ceremony
						 Keynote Speakers, Paper presentations

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						 Afternoon: Closing Ceremony


LODGING INFORMATION:

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Superior Room (2 person) 			  			 35$
Superior Room (3 person) 		  			 39$
Superior Villa Type A    (6 rooms & 2 halls) 260$
Standard Villa  Type B    (6 rooms & 2 halls) 260$
			     Type C1  (3 rooms & 1 hall)  110$
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#98 From: Kevin Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Fri Aug 18, 2000 9:54 pm
Subject: A Talk on Scientific Research of Qigong by Prof. Chu
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Dear Friends,

Professor De-Ying Chu of Chemistry from Beijing University is currently
visiting the World Institute for Self Healing (WISH), and planning some
collaborative research on Qigong with the Institute.  Professor Chu will
give a special talk on scientific research of Qigong at WISH office on
Thursday, August 24, 7:30pm, to summarize the history of scientific
research on Qigong in China for the last twenty years, to explore the
challenge of Qigong research to the modern science, and to discuss the
future of scientific research in Qigong and human somatic science.  You are
cordially invited to join us for such a rear and interesting event.

Professor Chu has long been involved in the scientific exploration of
Qigong, and she is the head of the Qigong research group in Beijing
University.   In the last ten years, she has examined the external Qigong
of numbers of Qigong masters with the circular dichroism (CD)
spectropolarimeter, and found that the external Qigong could change the
conformation of biomolecule so as to make it more order or convert it into
more disorder.  This finding not only verified the existence of external
Qi, but also provided the partial explanation of why external Qi has
therapeutic effect in pain relief or treating diseases.  Her achievement in
this area has obtained the consistent affirmation from scientific
community.  She has got the only Qigong grant from the National Foundation
of Natural Science to continue this study until 2002.

Prof. Chu's visit to WISH was recommended by Chinese Society of Qigong
Science.  The major purpose of her visit is to conduct cooperative research
with WISH, and to repeat some of her research, especially the effect of
external Qigong on the conformation of bio-molecule, with the participation
of American scientists.  For more information about Prof Chu's visit and
the talk on Qigong research, please contact WISH office at 732-563-4884, or
email to qigong4us@...

Yours,
Kevin Chen

===================
P.S.  Direction to WISH office:

World Institute for Self-Healing, Inc.
250 Lackland Dr., Suite 10
Middlesex, NJ  08846

FROM NJ TURNPIKE NORTH OR SOUTH (I-95): Exit NJ Turnpike at Exit 10, pay
toll, keep left to I-287 North, drive for approximately 7-8 minutes then
leave I-287 at Exit 7, turn right at the traffic light to South
Randolphville Rd, next traffic light, turn right to Old New Brunswick Rd.,
then next traffic light turn left to N. Randolphville Rd., about 1.2 miles
there is a stop sign, go straight to Sherman Ave until the end of the
street, turn left at the stop sign to South Ave.  The second street on left
is Lackland Dr., which is a U-shape street off South Ave., turn left to
Lackland Dr.  250 is located at the bottom of the U shape, and the WISH
office (Suite 10) is located on the ground level of the two-floor building.

FROM NORTH (using Parkway): Take Garden State Parkway South to Exit 129,
then follow I-287 as outlined above.

FROM SOUTH (using Parkway): Take Garden State Parkway North to Exit 127,
then follow I-287 as outlined above.

FROM WEST AND NORTHEAST: Take I-80 East or I-78 East to I-287 South.
Follow I-287 to Exit 7, make a left turn at the traffic light to South
Randolphville Rd., the second traffic light, turn right to Old New
Brunswick Rd., then turn left at next light to N. Randolphville Rd, about
1.2 miles there is a stop sign, go straight to Sherman Ave until the end of
the street, turn left at the stop sign to South Ave.  The second street on
left is Lackland Dr. which is a U-shape street off South Ave, turn left to
Lackland Dr.  250 is located at the bottom of the U shape, and WISH office
(Suite 10) is located on the ground level of the two-floor building.

FROM EAST (Staten Island): Take Route 440 South (which becomes 440 West
once you get into NJ), which then turns into I-287, then follow directions
from I-287 North as outlined above.

BY TRAIN FROM NEW YORK CITY or NEWARK, NJ:  If you're coming from Penn
Station in New York City, take a train into Newark.  From there, you'll
need to get off and get a NJ Transit Train on the Raritan Valley Line
toward High Bridge.  Get off the train at Dunellen, then give us a call and
we'll pick you up.  Or, you may walk from the train station, following
South Ave south, for about 1 mile, to Lackland drive on your left.  There
are also NJ Transit busses that can take you to Dunellen from a number of
different cities.  To find out about schedules for train or bus, you can
always call NJ Transit at 1-800-772-2222 or 973 762-5100.

Please give us a call at 732 563-4884 if you have any problems!

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