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Qi Dao --- September/October 2008

Qi = vital energy, life force; Dao = law behind everything.

Qi Dao, the E-newsletter of World Institute for Self Healing, Inc. (WISH) promotes philosophy and methods of human self-healing and mind power, and shares knowledge and experiences with those who are interested in human self-healing and mind power and their applications in health and healing.

Read entire Qi Dao at: http://www.wishus.org/newsletter/Qidao_1008.pdf

Research Update

Roger Jahnke looks at Mind-body Practice concentrating on the Relaxation Response. Practice with intent may activate the RR and literally change how genes behave in response to stress. He cites several studies to back up his conclusions.

Topic in Research

Earth Energy is the third part in a series on Scientific Exploration of Qi written by Marty Eisen. He looks at cells, tissues and organs and their production of energy fields in and around the body. He includes a discussion of the Six Evils and their effects on the Qi within us and much more.

Technique of Better Meditation

Kevin Chen describes Observing-imagery, a meditation technique in Daoist practice. He looks at how we use our imagination to keep the mind on and to enter a state of tranquility. He accounts for its history and its effects on both the body and the mind.

Illuminating the Dao

Michelle Wood talks about our ability to use our everyday imagination every day. She introduces us to the imagination of the Dao and to Imagination Therapy all with the goal of helping us create the life and the health that we desire.

A Comedy Moment

Things to laugh at? Perhaps!

Method of Self-Healing

This article by Martin Brofman takes us through the steps of sickness and healing. He discusses ways in which we create our own reality and how we might go from a sick reality to a healthy reality. Anything can be healed.

Ask the Qi Dao Master

Lama Tantrapa starts a new column here, and takes a look at the economic crisis and the options we may have to survive, especially to survive within ourselves.

Food as Medicine

Ellasara Kling writes about the imagination and emotions and how we may be able to blend them into a seasonal harmony when we look at what we eat. Her delightful recipes will help take you through the winter.

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#1237

From: Kevin W Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:48 am
Subject: Qi Dao -- Nov/Dec 2008

qigong4us

Qi Dao --- November/December 2008

Qi = vital energy, life force; Dao = law behind everything.

Qi Dao, the E-newsletter designed for all qigong/taiji practitioners and other spiritual cultivators, promotes philosophy and methods of human self-healing and mind power, and shares knowledge and experiences with those who are interested in human self-healing and mind power and their applications in health and healing.

Read entire Qi Dao at: http://www.wishus.org/newsletter/Qidao_1208.pdf

Research Updates
            Medical Qigong for cancer patients; Yoga for anxiety and depression symptoms;
Qigong and chronic fatigue syndrome; Tai Chi and Qigong medical exercise on indicators of metabolic syndrome, etc.; Qigong for stress reduction; Effect of Qigong on depression in seniors; Qigong and physical status in middle-aged women; Psychological responses to Qigong;

Topics in Research � Scientific Exploration of qi � part 4
            Marty Eisen continues his study of Qi looking at the Heaven of the Sun and Moon

From the Qi Dao Master � Transformation before our eyes
            Lama Somananda Tantrapa talks about the possible changes with the election of Barak Obama to the US presidency and asks if we are ready to be in the flow of                    change?

Illuminating the Dao
        The troubles of the economy are focused on by Michelle Wood as she writes about how to avoid physical illness during these times of change.

A Comedy Moment

Method of Self-Healing � Change and Adaptation in Qigong Practice
        Drs. Chen & Liu look in detail at the keys to successful Qigong Practice. Their discussion includes the TCM theories on Yin-Yang, Meridian Theory and the Essence Qi, and their relationship in change and adaptation of qigong practice..

Thoughtful Eating
        Twelve suggestions on healthy eating.

Inspiration
        A Poem about Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow

Teaching/Training Tip � Teaching Taiji: Keep it Simple and Positive
        Dr. Yang Yang talks about the teaching Taiji and the best way for the students to obtain the skills through simple and positive training.

Food as Medicine
         Different from her usual articles, that is, no recipes, Ellasara King writes that change is a never ending fact of life. She talks about what happens as we ingest food, how our energy changes, etc.

Call for Support

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#1238

From: Kevin W Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:39 am
Subject: A Recent publication on "Inhibitory Effects of Bio-Energy Therapies on Cancer Growth"

qigong4us

Dear Friends of Qi Research,

Happy New Year!

I would like to share a recent publication with you on Inhibitory Effects of Bio-Energy Therapies on Cancer Growth.

Chen KW, 2008. �Inhibitory effects of bio-energy therapies on cancer growth�An overview of recent laboratory studies in the U.S. and its implications in cancer treatment.� World Sciences and Technologies �Modernization of TCM and Materia Medica.10(4): 144-152.

ABSTRACT
Background: Bioenergy therapies (such as Qigong, Reiki, Yoga, Pranic Healing, and Therapeutic touch) have reported benefits for cancer patients, but few randomized control trials were done to verify their efficacy. It is believed that laboratory study of inhibitory effects of bio-energy therapies on cancer growth may lead to an understanding of the true efficacy of bio-energy and create a foundation for future clinical trials. Methods: Typical in-vitro study involved randomly dividing lab-prepared cancer cells into different groups with one being treated by bio-energy therapy and one or more as control groups. Sometimes, controls were treated by a sham healer. Typical in vivo study involved injecting or implanting cancerous cells into mice, then randomly dividing them into various groups. The control could be either non-treatment or sham treatment; the outcomes include tumor size or survival time. Results: Most studies demonstrated some inhibitory effects of bioenergy therapies on the growth of cancer cells in comparison with control. The in vivo studies reported that the bio-energy treated group had significantly slower tumor growth or longer survival lives than those in the control. One study reported survival with a normal life cycle instead of dying in 3 weeks, and cancer-infected mice developed immune response to the same breast cancer. However, researchers are confronted with methodological challenges in choosing appropriate controls, minimizing contamination, and replicating study outcomes. Conclusion: Encouraging evidence suggests bioenergy may have inhibitory effects on cancer growth, or prolong the life of cancer-infected animals, although improvement is needed in research design and replication of the findings. Bioenergy for cancer treatment is an area that is often neglected by mainstream medicine and research, and it should be seriously examined and considered as an important supplement to conventional cancer treatment.

Keywords: Bioenergy therapy, biofield, cancer, in-vivo, in-vitro, inhibitory effect, review.

Your can download the entire article from link below: or email me for a copy.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/qiresearch/files/

Kevin

#1239

From: Kevin W Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:04 pm
Subject: Deepak Chopra on WSJ: 'Alternative' Medicine Is Mainstream

qigong4us

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123146318996466585.html

This appeared in WSJ a couple of weeks ago. If you haven't read it yet, READ IT. Circulate it to your family and friends! This is one of the most clear and articulat descriptions of integrative medicine I've read. And nicely backed with data. They highlight something many of us understand profoundly -- that as a country, the majority of the diseases we have and the money we spend to fix them, are preventable with natural solutions of diet, exercise, stress reduction techniques like yoga, tai-chi, qigong, contemplative reflection like meditation/prayer, community, social support, love, faith. And lots of what we can't prevent can be treated with herbs and acupuncture, etc. Every one in our country must be responsible for his or her health.

Kevin

#1240

From: Rachel Levine <yogalevine1@...>
Date: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:39 am
Subject: NIH Conditioning and Relaxation (CORE) Week - Feb 9-13, 2009 FREE and open to the public

yogalevine1@...

A Few Quick Announcements on NIH events:
1) The URL for NIH CORE Week is listed below, don't forget about the networking event for health professionals on Feb 11, 2009. We have 55 people coming so far, and we will cap it at 75.
2) Next Yoga Week is Sept 8-11, 2009. We will have a website in March to announce booked speakers and events. This year, we will not only have YOGA, but also stress management and meditation work.
3) We are having the first annual NIH "Days of Dance" in Summer 2009. If you are, or know a dance instructor who would like to teach, email me.
4) The first annual NIH Tai Chi and QiGong week is coming in 2010 in May. Can anything be better?

Information on CORE Week is below. For those of you who have businesses or blogs, please post - you will see your traffic climb :)

2009 NIH CORE Week: Conditioning and Relaxation Coming Together! From February 9-13, 2009, The National Institutes of Health (NIH) will premier its first CORE Week, highlighting the science and practice of different modes of physical activity and their relaxing counterparts. This five-day series of events will serve NIH employees and the public. Participants will learn about the benefits of conditioning and relaxation and will be able to experience them first-hand.

This event is being sponsored by the NIH Recreation and Welfare Association (NIH R&W) with collaboration from NIH Office of Research Services, National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI), National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), Office of Research on Women�s Health (ORWH), the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), the National Cancer Institute (NCI), and the National Institute for Arthritis and Musculoskeletal Diseases (NIAMS). In addition, the NIH Recreation and Welfare Association has partnered with several local businesses to create a community-focus to this week.

Sign Language Interpreters will be provided. Individuals with disabilities who need reasonable accommodations to participate in these events should contact Chris Gaines at the Division of Amenities and Transportation Services 301-451-3631 and/or the Federal Relay (1-800-877-8339).

Please bring your own fitness mat whenever possible, and bring one to share! All events are FREE and OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

For a complete listing of CORE Week events near you, please visit http://dats.ors.od.nih.gov/pdf/core.pdf

Rachel Permuth-Levine, PhD, MSPH
Deputy Director
Office of Strategic and Innovative Programs
NHLBI NIH
6701 Rockledge Dr., Suite 7210
Bethesda MD 20892
(301) 496-9845 - phone

The 2nd annual NIH Yoga Week will be held Sept 7-11, 2009. Save the dates!

#1241

From: "john_allsup" <s.chalisque@...>
Date: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:45 pm
Subject: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

john_allsup

Hi,

I've just joined this list.

Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and related
concepts.  I
have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the understanding
and
knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term in quotes,
since it
does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move prevalence there.

Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be explained
using Maths
and Physics.  (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can readily see
how things can
be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)

I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be simple, but
I am
convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and Taiji/Qigong is a
step in
human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.

Anybody interested?

Anybody else done much in this area?

John

#1242

From: Kevin W Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:52 am
Subject: Re: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

qigong4us

Dear John,

Welcome to the forum.  Your study title and assumption is very
innovative, I would like to hear more about it before making any
comments.  What is Qi in your Qi theory?

We are still under debate on what Qi is, I am attaching a simplified
piece by Dr. Eisen and I, published in Qi Dao last year for you to
see where we stand in understanding what Qi is.  We have to reach
some kind of agreement on what the study subject is before we can
make a theory out of it. right?

Best wishes to your inquiry!

Kevin

At 10:45 AM 1/30/2009, john_allsup wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've just joined this list.
>
>Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and
>related concepts.  I
>have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the
>understanding and
>knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term
>in quotes, since it
>does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move
>prevalence there.
>
>Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be
>explained using Maths
>and Physics.  (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can
>readily see how things can
>be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)
>
>I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be
>simple, but I am
>convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and
>Taiji/Qigong is a step in
>human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.
>
>Anybody interested?
>
>Anybody else done much in this area?
>
>John
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
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>

#1243

From: YuLi Qigong <yuliqigong@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:37 am
Subject: Re: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

yuliqigong

Hello John,

Several years ago there was a group called the neijia list that discussed this in depth. A number of the members were physicists, bio-mechanical engineers, mathematicians etc. as well as all being martial artists.

Some of the research done showed that neijin (internal strength caused by Qi) was also a more efficient method of moving; using the fascia, tendons & ligaments to enhance power; using intent to enhance movement & power; using spiral movement to increase speed & power etc.

Jeff Smoley
www.YuLiQigong.com
www.JadePowerQigong.com

john_allsup wrote:

Hi,

I've just joined this list.

Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and related concepts. I
have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the understanding and
knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term in quotes, since it
does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move prevalence there.

Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be explained using Maths
and Physics. (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can readily see how things can
be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)

I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be simple, but I am
convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and Taiji/Qigong is a step in
human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.

Anybody interested?

Anybody else done much in this area?

John

#1244

From: "white buffalo calf woman (twin deer mother)" <whitebuffalocalfwoman@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:20 am
Subject: Re: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

Beloved family of Qi research,

Qi is not intellectual, it is motion itself, the way. One is fastened and still and one that is flowing and rhythmic, just like the body is still while the blood moves all around. Man woman etc. I'll bet the chinese today and the chinese interpretation of ancient have very different meanings, although mathematically speaking, the iching and dao te ching are correct which will be proven in the near days ahead all because they studied the natural flowing of all the related. There is a lost configuration of the readers of today, only the true Taoist who knows both ways of reading will interpret correctly for both realms, light and darkness.

What everyone is searching for is explained mathematically simply and perfectly. The basics of the way, have two principles like us, the light and the dark, bond together just as in physics and it's relationships. fact vs relationship, yes!

But my loves, it shall be those who are pure of heart who will have these mathematical formulas first. For they are truly a gift from the Greatness of the Oneness. While you are talking about what it is, we will be moving forward into the new time of the third rolling hill in time. The is the new age of the dawning that is upon us, where you will have to learn about your own darkness and the flowing of it and how it will be incorporated and embraced by your light body, the one that lives in denial of our souls, while the phsical world of light comes crashing down upon us all. Only those who can walk in their own shadows and keep pure will know safety.

Now, you think how does this all have to do with physics and qi. Because phsics and qi have everything to do with motion of our lives. You want to learn how to be pure of heart and be the first to have access to the mathematical perfection that validates the iching, tao te ching and physics of all the related. Join us elders who walk the way of love, the Red Road.

But in the meantime, maybe you have questions? Well I have answers. I am called iyeshka or interpreter to your questions about anything.

Your devoted servant,

white buffalo calf woman "twin deer mother"

elder crystal person "iyeshka or interpreter"

ps. we all have sacred garments of lights, but do you know your soul's journey?

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Kevin W Chen <chenke@...> wrote:

Dear John,

Welcome to the forum. Your study title and assumption is very
innovative, I would like to hear more about it before making any
comments. What is Qi in your Qi theory?

We are still under debate on what Qi is, I am attaching a simplified
piece by Dr. Eisen and I, published in Qi Dao last year for you to
see where we stand in understanding what Qi is. We have to reach
some kind of agreement on what the study subject is before we can
make a theory out of it. right?

Best wishes to your inquiry!

Kevin

At 10:45 AM 1/30/2009, john_allsup wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've just joined this list.
>
>Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and
>related concepts. I
>have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the
>understanding and
>knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term
>in quotes, since it
>does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move
>prevalence there.
>
>Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be
>explained using Maths
>and Physics. (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can
>readily see how things can
>be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)
>
>I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be
>simple, but I am
>convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and
>Taiji/Qigong is a step in
>human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.
>
>Anybody interested?
>
>Anybody else done much in this area?
>
>John
>
>
>------------------------------------

>
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#1245

From: "white buffalo calf woman (twin deer mother)" <whitebuffalocalfwoman@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:33 am
Subject: Re: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

Beloved John Allsup,

I want you to know that this group has up to date information i believe, and have give aways of teachers and lessons for all. And mostly he really cares about his work and giving others technical data.

Kevin chen seems to be a great teacher and moderator for the members. He doesn't know how to handle me, just denies me, because love is a term that many do not want to speak about. chi is love, the very motion of it. the darkness, soul, depends on it for it's existence.

Hopefully you will get what you need, but not too many posts. Most usually wait until Dr. Chen sents them an article about his updates and studies, which are very good indeed. I hope you find what you need.

Love, calf woman

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:45 AM, john_allsup <s.chalisque@...> wrote:

Hi,

I've just joined this list.

Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and related concepts. I
have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the understanding and
knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term in quotes, since it
does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move prevalence there.

Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be explained using Maths
and Physics. (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can readily see how things can
be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)

I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be simple, but I am
convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and Taiji/Qigong is a step in
human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.

Anybody interested?

Anybody else done much in this area?

John

#1246

From: Dina Ralt <ralt1@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:33 am
Subject: RE: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

dinaralt

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1180462

Dear John,

Your suggestion is interesting but as Kevin said it is not clear what do you think about qi?

I am a cellular biologist and approach qi as an information flow and so I have suggested that the nitric oxide (NO) gas signal is a potential qi carrier… I am enclosing 2 of my articles and will be glad to further elaborate.

Intercellular communication, NO and the biology of Chinese medicine

And my other article which articulate about the NO physiology, without stating that it is what I believe is qi, mainly due to the reason that when I just say qi, most biologists reject my scientific articles …

NO Netting, Health and Stress - Studying Wellness from a Net Perspective

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17573200&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumWelcome Welcome to the forum,

Dina

Dr. Dina Ralt

The Gertner Institute, Chaim Sheba Medical Center

Phone 972-3-5224750

Cellular 972-52-8000210

http://nettingno.blogspot.com/

Life is too short to be in a hurry...

From: qiresearch@yahoogroups.com [mailto:qiresearch@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin W Chen
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:52 AM
To: john_allsup; qiresearch@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [qiresearch] Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

Dear John,

Welcome to the forum. Your study title and assumption is very
innovative, I would like to hear more about it before making any
comments. What is Qi in your Qi theory?

We are still under debate on what Qi is, I am attaching a simplified
piece by Dr. Eisen and I, published in Qi Dao last year for you to
see where we stand in understanding what Qi is. We have to reach
some kind of agreement on what the study subject is before we can
make a theory out of it. right?

Best wishes to your inquiry!

Kevin

At 10:45 AM 1/30/2009, john_allsup wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've just joined this list.
>
>Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and
>related concepts. I
>have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the
>understanding and
>knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term
>in quotes, since it
>does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move
>prevalence there.
>
>Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be
>explained using Maths
>and Physics. (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can
>readily see how things can
>be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)
>
>I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be
>simple, but I am
>convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and
>Taiji/Qigong is a step in
>human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.
>
>Anybody interested?
>
>Anybody else done much in this area?
>
>John
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
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>To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to:
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>
>
>

#1247

From: "white buffalo calf woman (twin deer mother)" <whitebuffalocalfwoman@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:41 am
Subject: Re: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

John,

Yes, they have been for the last millenia separated heaven and earth, but now we are moving into a new time in about 4 years and heaven the darkness will be colliding with the light. Everyone feels it and it is happening all around us. Yes, the sum of the two is more than the parts indeed. Heaven and Earth finally here together.

Qi is the study of earthly light, the best ideal is that of Heavenly darkness ways. Now the law, love, of heaven is upon us and Heaven and Earth are one.

Yes, the study of intellect is always on God, to prove and validate it's existance. Men of God and Men of Science always come to this conclusion readily, realization of the flowing qi, the oneness of all life.

love, calf woman

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:35 PM, John Allsup <s.chalisque@...> wrote:

Hi,

I view the world of Qi and the world of intellect as two separate worlds. I love both, and wish to build an effective bridge between the two that others can use. Many lessons learned in the world of the intellect apply in the world of Qi, and vice versa. Surely the combination of the two can be much more that the sum of its parts?

Cheers,

John

On 31 Jan 2009, at 06:20, white buffalo calf woman (twin deer mother) wrote:

Beloved family of Qi research,

Qi is not intellectual, it is motion itself, the way. One is fastened and still and one that is flowing and rhythmic, just like the body is still while the blood moves all around. Man woman etc. I'll bet the chinese today and the chinese interpretation of ancient have very different meanings, although mathematically speaking, the iching and dao te ching are correct which will be proven in the near days ahead all because they studied the natural flowing of all the related. There is a lost configuration of the readers of today, only the true Taoist who knows both ways of reading will interpret correctly for both realms, light and darkness.

What everyone is searching for is explained mathematically simply and perfectly. The basics of the way, have two principles like us, the light and the dark, bond together just as in physics and it's relationships. fact vs relationship, yes!

But my loves, it shall be those who are pure of heart who will have these mathematical formulas first. For they are truly a gift from the Greatness of the Oneness. While you are talking about what it is, we will be moving forward into the new time of the third rolling hill in time. The is the new age of the dawning that is upon us, where you will have to learn about your own darkness and the flowing of it and how it will be incorporated and embraced by your light body, the one that lives in denial of our souls, while the phsical world of light comes crashing down upon us all. Only those who can walk in their own shadows and keep pure will know safety.

Now, you think how does this all have to do with physics and qi. Because phsics and qi have everything to do with motion of our lives. You want to learn how to be pure of heart and be the first to have access to the mathematical perfection that validates the iching, tao te ching and physics of all the related. Join us elders who walk the way of love, the Red Road.

But in the meantime, maybe you have questions? Well I have answers. I am called iyeshka or interpreter to your questions about anything.

Your devoted servant,

white buffalo calf woman "twin deer mother"

elder crystal person "iyeshka or interpreter"

ps. we all have sacred garments of lights, but do you know your soul's journey?

yo

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Kevin W Chen <chenke@...> wrote:

Dear John,

Welcome to the forum. Your study title and assumption is very
innovative, I would like to hear more about it before making any
comments. What is Qi in your Qi theory?

We are still under debate on what Qi is, I am attaching a simplified
piece by Dr. Eisen and I, published in Qi Dao last year for you to
see where we stand in understanding what Qi is. We have to reach
some kind of agreement on what the study subject is before we can
make a theory out of it. right?

Best wishes to your inquiry!

Kevin

At 10:45 AM 1/30/2009, john_allsup wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've just joined this list.
>
>Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and
>related concepts. I
>have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the
>understanding and
>knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term
>in quotes, since it
>does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move
>prevalence there.
>
>Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be
>explained using Maths
>and Physics. (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can
>readily see how things can
>be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)
>
>I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be
>simple, but I am
>convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and
>Taiji/Qigong is a step in
>human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.
>
>Anybody interested?
>
>Anybody else done much in this area?
>
>John
>
>
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>
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#1248

From: "white buffalo calf woman (twin deer mother)" <whitebuffalocalfwoman@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:24 pm
Subject: Re: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

Beloved Dina,

very good, thank you!

love, white calf woman

ps. looking forward to your articles

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Dina Ralt <ralt1@...> wrote:

Dear John,

Your suggestion is interesting but as Kevin said it is not clear what do you think about qi?

I am a cellular biologist and approach qi as an information flow and so I have suggested that the nitric oxide (NO) gas signal is a potential qi carrier� I am enclosing 2 of my articles and will be glad to further elaborate.

Intercellular communication, NO and the biology of Chinese medicine

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1180462

And my other article which articulate about the NO physiology, without stating that it is what I believe is qi, mainly due to the reason that when I just say qi, most biologists reject my scientific articles �

NO Netting, Health and Stress - Studying Wellness from a Net Perspective

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17573200&ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSumWelcome Welcome to the forum,

Dina

Dr. Dina Ralt

The Gertner Institute, Chaim Sheba Medical Center

Phone 972-3-5224750

Cellular 972-52-8000210

http://nettingno.blogspot.com/

Life is too short to be in a hurry...

From: qiresearch@yahoogroups.com [mailto:qiresearch@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin W Chen
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:52 AM
To: john_allsup; qiresearch@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [qiresearch] Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

Dear John,

Welcome to the forum. Your study title and assumption is very
innovative, I would like to hear more about it before making any
comments. What is Qi in your Qi theory?

We are still under debate on what Qi is, I am attaching a simplified
piece by Dr. Eisen and I, published in Qi Dao last year for you to
see where we stand in understanding what Qi is. We have to reach
some kind of agreement on what the study subject is before we can
make a theory out of it. right?

Best wishes to your inquiry!

Kevin

At 10:45 AM 1/30/2009, john_allsup wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I've just joined this list.
>
>Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and
>related concepts. I
>have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the
>understanding and
>knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term
>in quotes, since it
>does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move
>prevalence there.
>
>Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be
>explained using Maths
>and Physics. (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can
>readily see how things can
>be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)
>
>I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be
>simple, but I am
>convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and
>Taiji/Qigong is a step in
>human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.
>
>Anybody interested?
>
>Anybody else done much in this area?
>
>John
>
>
>------------------------------------
>
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>qiresearch-unsubscribe@...! Groups Links
>
>
>

#1249

From: Tom Rogers <fivetenchi@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:44 pm
Subject: Re:Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

fivetenchi

You can get an idea about what others have done in this area by visiting the
Qigong Institute's 'The Scientific Basis of Qigong and Energy Medicine page':

http://qigonginstitute.org/html/scientificbasis.php

This page includes topics such as Bioenergetic Effects of Qigong, Coherence and
Entrainment, Epigenetics, Physics and Qigong, the Molecular Basis of Emotions,
and more. -tom

#1250

From: "white buffalo calf woman (twin deer mother)" <whitebuffalocalfwoman@...>
Date: Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: Physical and Mathematical foundations for Qi theory

Beloved John,

I will pass you on to Sacred Storm Dreamer his email is sacredstormdreamer@.... He can help you with further investigation on science and the yellow arts of asia.

Neijin List where? Yahoo? Jeff is helping you, thank you Jeff.

Jeff Smoley
www.YuLiQigong.com
www.JadePowerQigong.com

Also, the one of the Leaders of the Taiji world i will send you his webpage as soon as I can find it. He wrote a wonderful article on the Yellow Warrior. Give me about a week, okay, I'll find the webpage, need to get a hold of him anyway. Good timing for all concerned as this is the Royal Yellow King year!

Good luck to your adventure!

love, white calf woman

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:01 PM, John Allsup <s.chalisque@...> wrote:

The problem with talking of love is that, while you are convinced, and indeed I am, a sceptic is not, and it is the sceptics that need convincing.

On 31 Jan 2009, at 06:33, white buffalo calf woman (twin deer mother) wrote:

Beloved John Allsup,

I want you to know that this group has up to date information i believe, and have give aways of teachers and lessons for all. And mostly he really cares about his work and giving others technical data.

Kevin chen seems to be a great teacher and moderator for the members. He doesn't know how to handle me, just denies me, because love is a term that many do not want to speak about. chi is love, the very motion of it. the darkness, soul, depends on it for it's existence.

Hopefully you will get what you need, but not too many posts. Most usually wait until Dr. Chen sents them an article about his updates and studies, which are very good indeed. I hope you find what you need.

Love, calf woman

On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 7:45 AM, john_allsup <s.chalisque@...> wrote:

Hi,

I've just joined this list.

Many people talk about how Taiji and Qigong work in terms of Qi and related concepts. I
have, for some time, been pondering how 'Qi theory' relates to the understanding and
knowledge contained in 'Western Maths and Physics' (I put this term in quotes, since it
does not truly belong to the Western world, but is given move prevalence there.

Is anybody interested in working out the details of how Qi can be explained using Maths
and Physics. (Let me say that, at my current level of Taiji, I can readily see how things can
be connected together, and even bounce concepts between the two worlds.)

I should warn potentially interested people that things will not be simple, but I am
convinced that connecting Maths, Physics, other sciences and Taiji/Qigong is a step in
human progress that needs doing, and I'm eager to help get the ball rolling.

Anybody interested?

Anybody else done much in this area?

John

#1251

From: Kevin W Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:45 pm
Subject: 2009 NIH Yoga Week #2: Exploring the Science and Practice of Yoga

qigong4us

Mark your Calendars!

From September 8-11, 2009, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) will premier its second annual Yoga Week. Highlighting the science and practice of yoga, this four-day series of events will serve NIH employees and the public. Participants will not only learn about the benefits of yoga but also experience them first-hand through stretching and practice. The first yoga week, in May 2008 received national attention with over 1300 participants it also resulted in National Yoga Month, a National Health Observance being designated for every September from now til perhaps eternity. This Yoga Week will focus on yoga, yoga therapy, yoga research, and will have other related presentations on meditation, stress management, and other mind/body modalities. Everyone is welcome to join us for several free sessions. There will also be an opportunity to gain Continuing Education credits through Yoga Alliance and several other health education partners. Events take place in Bethesda, Maryland, which is just 20 minutes away from Washington DC. Come be a part of this historic and energizing event. For more information, contact Dr. Rachel Permuth-Levine at levinerac@...

If you would like to collaborate for this event, we are open to exploring opportunities.

Yours in health,

Rachel

Rachel Permuth-Levine, PhD, MSPH
Deputy Director
Office of Strategic and Innovative Programs
NHLBI NIH
6701 Rockledge Dr., Suite 7210
Bethesda MD 20892
(301) 496-9845 - phone

#1252

From: martyeisen@...
Date: Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 532

martyeisen

This is a misnomer. Scientifically inclined people should learn and use the correct terminology, instead of giving credence to so-called practitioners who take advantage of people's ignorance. Yoga means yoke or union with Brahma. It is a religious path and has nothing to do with health. It is a spiritual pursuit and has many paths which are not stretching , breathing or meditation. Only spiritual enlightenment is pursued and other benefits are to be ignored and not desired or you lose your way. It involves keeping certain moral and dietary principles. The proportion of people practicing real Yoga in the world is a minute fraction of new-age, westernized practitioners.

"Yoga" postures are used in Ayurvedic medicine and what is practiced, when not distorted, is not yoga but a branch of Ayurvedic medicine. To correctly prescribe postures etc. requires knowledge of Ayurvedic medicine, including a correct diagnosis.

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#1253

From: Kenneth Akiyama <kennethakiyama@...>
Date: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:57 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 532

kennethakiyama

All Concerned,

Yoga is not a specific religious path and it has everything to do with health. If Yoga was a religious path, everyone practicing Yoga would have the same religious beliefs. If someone says they practice Catholicism, we know what their spiritual beliefs are. If someone says they practice Yoga, you couldn't say with certainty what they believe.

Yoga does mean "yoke" or "union" but not necessarily with Brahma (who is a specific Hindu god.). The union is of Atman (the self) with Paramatman (the higher conscious). The higher conscious can be anything; Christian God, Hindu God, Chaos, Science, Nothingness, etc.

The teachings of Yoga do not restrict one to any specific religious beliefs. Some Yoga teachers or schools may but that's a different point. The idea of boxing people in with religious beliefs is largely a Western concept. For example, if the Bible says a snake is evil and then there is a Yoga pose called the "Cobra" then Yoga is evil. With this close-minded way of thinking, anything can be painted as an evil.

While I was studying Yoga at the Yoga Vidya Dham Ashram in India, I asked one of the teachers if he could prove beyond reproach that Yoga was not a Hindu practice. He replied simply stating that Yoga predates Hinduism by 2000 years.

Marty, if you had specified Patanjali's "Ashtanga" Yoga or another specific, you would have been correct in most of what you said but to make such statements about Yoga in general is not correct.

Kind Regards,

Ken Akiyama
New Hampshire, USA

From: "martyeisen@..." <martyeisen@...>
To: qiresearch@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:43:43 PM
Subject: Re: [qiresearch] Digest Number 532

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#1254

From: "Y. Azid" <yazid904@...>
Date: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:22 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 532

yazid904

Generally speaking,

Yoga has many manifestations and it is more than bending one body into various juxtapositions so as to appear 'enlightened'! Whatever that means!?

Anyway, yoga can be practiced by anyone. The connotation of 'yoke' as in unity of the senses (as oppoed to monkey brain rumination) is indeed part of that union.

Yoga can be a "religious" path but definitions do a alot to confuse and obtusificate (hope I spelled that right). What we are actually talking about is Hathayoga (physical asana)

The 8 Limbs are:

Yama

Niyama

Asana (physical postures, of which we speak)

Pranayama

Pratyahara

Dharana

Dhyana

Samadhi

#1255

From: Kenneth Akiyama <kennethakiyama@...>
Date: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 532

kennethakiyama

Just to clarify what Yaz said a little bit, the eight limbs mentioned are specific to Patanjali's Ashtanga Yoga. Hatha yoga does not impose Yamas and Niyama - personal and social rules.

P.S. I use the term Patanjali's Ashtanga Yoga to differentiate from the more popular and modern Pattabi Jois' Ashtanga Yoga. If you care to get deeper, you can read all about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtanga_Vinyasa_Yoga

Kind Regards,

Ken Akiyama
New Hampshire, USA

From: Y. Azid <yazid904@...>
To: qiresearch@Yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 12:22:40 PM
Subject: Re: [qiresearch] Digest Number 532

Generally speaking,

Yoga has many manifestations and it is more than bending one body into various juxtapositions so as to appear 'enlightened' ! Whatever that means!?

Anyway, yoga can be practiced by anyone. The connotation of 'yoke' as in unity of the senses (as oppoed to monkey brain rumination) is indeed part of that union.

Yoga can be a "religious" path but definitions do a alot to confuse and obtusificate (hope I spelled that right). What we are actually talking about is Hathayoga (physical asana)

The 8 Limbs are:

Yama

Niyama

Asana (physical postures, of which we speak)

Pranayama

Pratyahara

Dharana

Dhyana

Samadhi

#1256

From: Qi Dao <wish_qidao@...>
Date: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:07 am
Subject: Qi Dao -- Jan/Feb 2009

wish_qidao

Qi Dao --- Jan/Feb 2009

Qi = vital energy, life force; Dao = law behind everything.

Qi Dao, the E-newsletter designed for all qigong/taiji practitioners and other spiritual cultivators, promotes philosophy and methods of human self-healing and mind power, and shares knowledge and experiences with those who are interested in human self-healing and mind power and their applications in health and healing.

Read entire Qi Dao at: http://www.wishus.org/newsletter/Qidao_0209.pdf

Research Updates

Research Updates look at Qigong for chronic conditions; Tai chi and Qigong in older adults; Meditation practices in health care; Qigong exercises and their effects on human saliva; Anti-depressive effects of Qigong exercises; Effects of bio-energy therapies on cancer growth.

Inspirational Quotes

The Power of Gratitude

Topics on Research

Marty Eisen continues his work on the Scientific Exploration of Qi as he looks at the Heaven Energy of the Stars. He literally looks at the universe, positions of planets and the effects they have on our bodies and on our destiny.

From the Qi Dao Master

Describing his new internet radio talk show, The Secrets of Qigong Masters, Lama Somananda Tantrapa talks about his interviews with Qigong Masters and the contrasting/complementing ideas of the Masters.

Illuminating the Dao

In a very insightful article, Michelle Wood talks about intuition, how our body knows what may or should happen, how our mind intercedes in our everyday lives to help us if we are willing to listen. All of this is described in relation to the Tao.

Method of Better Meditation

Kevin Chen shares his experience of the Counting Breath Method of meditation This method helps the meditator concentrate and form the habit of slow breathing.

Food as Medicine

Our cravings and intuition are a part of Ellasara Kling�s discussion on food and its effects on our bodies. She also writes about the best foods for the new Spring Season. She includes recipes which showcase many green vegetables.

Read entire Qi Dao at: http://www.wishus.org/newsletter/Qidao_0209.pdf

You are welcome to share Qi Dao with your friends.
To subscribe to Qi Dao, send an email to Qi_Dao-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
To contribute to Qi Dao or contact us, please email to WISH_Qidao@....

#1257

From: "Moren M." <morenemail@...>
Date: Thu Apr 2, 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: A New Case of Qigong Therapy of Cancer

morenemail

A New Case of Qigong Therapy of Cancer

The patient��s name is Zhang Heping, female, 53 years old. She was diagnosed
cholecyst cancer and took a surgery the same year. Since then, she has taken
chemotherapy, interventional therapy, and TCM. By the end of 2008, the cancer
transferred to other positions, chemotherapy and radiotherapy no longer
effective, and cannot surgery again.
When I met the patient on March 14th 2009, she hospitalized in the Yun-nan
Provincial Tumor Hospital (in Kunming City). The patient has a severe ascites
and fullness of the abdomen. The doctor made a paracentesis to lead the liquid
out. But maybe jam by the cancer cells, only very little liquid come out every
day, the swell of the abdomen can not be reduced. Because the cancer cells
jammed the normal recycle path of water, she has no emiction for a few days. The
patient cannot eat, lives on the transfusion, so she is very thin, very weak,
cannot move by herself, even cannot talk. The hospital has already notified her
family that she was terminally ill.
I began the Qigong treatment the afternoon I arrive at Kunming City, she has no
any special sense when I do that. Tow times a day, about 3 hours at a time.
There is no any obvious changes the first three days, but to the forth day,
perhaps the tumor became smaller, some paths of the water was opened, the liquid
in the abdomen begin to come out, and becoming more and more fast. To the fifth
day, total about 2500ml liquid came out, and her abdomen no longer swell as
before. To the sixth day, the patient has emiction again, this show that the
water recycle path formerly jammed by cancer cells recovered, and now the
ascites no longer appear again, the bottle to bear the liquid is almost empty
the next few days. I continue to give her Qigong treatment for another two days,
and then I have to leave Kunming and come back to Guangzhou, because the Academy
call me back for several times.
This is my third case of Qigong therapy of cancer, the former two cases are
blood cancer, to read it you can go to :
http://geocities.com/morenemail/

#1258

From: Ying Zheng <yzheng02@...>
Date: Thu Apr 9, 2009 2:56 pm
Subject: A letter

yzheng02

Dear Teachers，Friends and Colleagues

I was very please to read the No.535 post and the article attached.

It is very good news as he treated three cancer patients and only after a few days they all are well. As known, the therapy of cancer by external qi (EQ) from qigong master is very difficult, and the successful cases are rare. I hope that he could give us more information such as the distance between him and the patient, the way by palm, finger, head, or only by ideal ,---etc.

Besides, it is hopeful that others could also tell something about how to treat cancer by EQ. Then we can sum up experience which will be helpful to improve the cure cancer rate by EQ.

Sincerely yours,

Y Zheng

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#1259

From: White Buffalo Calf Woman Twin Deer Mother <whitebuffalocalfwoman@...>
Date: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:20 am
Subject: Re: A letter

Ni hao Ying,

You know that each of us have skills in our light bodies, this is why some can have more skills as it may seem we call masters of qigong. The measure of frequency of light is not being measured at all.
Even if you have the parameters of palm, finger, head, or only by ideal,
you would not have any information that would give measurement to frequency. We are not measuring light at all. Somehow, we seem to miss this.

Some can wave a hand, and all is healed. Some have years of training, others are born with gifts. These are not measured in the intellect, but in the spectrum of the soul, the realm of lights. The golden way will be taught by the yellow skin, the children. For children are always the best teachers.

These skills are not taught intellectually, but by relationship and mentorship programs, sometimes lasting a lifetime. Yes, energy ganglia centers have been located by radiant measurable energy points, that conduct energy or not, depending of the wave of pulse. But we know that from point to point is the conduction, which is learned only after experience and mentorship we call education or schools, but we are missing the important part, the mentor who is the teacher, of the soul and who imparts wisdom, due to the stability of the body to allow flow to motion, is not intelligence of the flesh but wisdom of the soul.

The one thing i saw here once, was a group of invited guests who healed others who came. There was tuition assisted by those who had no income. This is being part of the Great give-a-way. As we learn to impart wisdom with all our relations and we call each other brother.

Mathematically speaking, the reflection of light has already been proven by the I ching and the Tao te ching, but it will take a pure heart to receive this information for the world. Are you or anyone ready for this mathematics? Then contact us, as only the pure heart will receive the perfection already known, but made understandable to the world.

your devoted servant,
(white buffalo) calf woman
elder crystal person
iyeshka or interpreter
http://www.ajoylightfromwithin.org

ps. distance is nothing, light moves at 186, 000 miles per second and sound travels faster than that, this is the motion of our souls. I gift safe soul flight each week to heal the world. Distance is nothing, when it comes to healing our family of relations.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Ying Zheng <yzheng02@...> wrote:

Dear Teachers��Friends and Colleagues

I was very please to read the No.535 post and the article attached.

It is very good news as he treated three cancer patients and only after a few days they all are well. As known, the therapy of cancer by external qi (EQ) from qigong master is very difficult, and the successful cases are rare. I hope that he could give us more information such as the distance between him and the patient, the way by palm, finger, head, or only by ideal ,---etc.

Besides, it is hopeful that others could also tell something about how to treat cancer by EQ. Then we can sum up experience which will be helpful to improve the cure cancer rate by EQ.

Sincerely yours,

Y Zheng

Reply | Messages in this Topic (3)

#1260

From: "yazid904" <yazid904@...>
Date: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:08 pm
Subject: How to present cases in Medical QIgong; A short list

yazid904

Many times when cases concrning Medical Qigong are profiled, the actual events
leading to the amelioration (cure!) of the patient/subject are omitted while
attempts are made to connect said remission/amelioration with speciifc Qigong
technology.
There are many factors affecting outcomes in qigong and it is am impossibiloity
to use objective criteria for all, and it depends on the various spheres of
understanding, belief systems and technologies used within the healing process.

a Name the disease condition.
This is always well documented but it is better to include severity of disease
and the drugs taken to cure! the individual.

b. Name all alternative (usually complementary in nature) methods.
This is terribly done in many case (and as an extension, testimonials).
These need to be developed regarding additional methods being used in addition
to allopathic intervention.

c. What is the name of the Qigong technology/intervention being deployed?  This
is lacking in 95% of all cases. Whether it is a ploy, or at best a stratgy, to
invoke more interest MAY be debatable.
The ahistorical/hagiographical commnetary within a historical context is that
qigong has always been 'secret', for lack of a better description. That being
said, the 1980's was a time when qigong came out of the closet implying the
tools were made available to present said health technology to the greater
public. Now we have cases being profiled to show how powerful qigong is but the
objective criteria is rarely mentioned.  What are we to think?  What commentary
is deserving to describe why this happens and continues to happen? Perhaps
further commentary is warranted for this lack of transparency!

SOLUTION
What I expect to see from qigong cases or testimonials!
1. Name of system: i.e. xiang gong. Now we have a reference!
2. Why was it used as opposed to another method (1.e. baojiangong)
3. What was the duration of xiang gong prescription?
     a. How long was the training phase
     b. How long was the intervention phase?
     c. At what stage was some kind of result was seen? Weeks, hours, days!!
     d. Other that the qigong method, what was the subject taking (medication, if
any), OR some other type of intervention (herbal medicine, etc)
     e. What was the state of the patient/subject? Bedridden, wheelchair, etc.

The totality of these add to the veracity of the cases presented and provides a
further framework for qigong to be taken seriously instead of relying on
mystical modes of non-expression!

I want to reiterate that if a person has undergone surgery, taking medication,
doing physical therapy and yoga these are 4 spheres of care, of which I
attribute at least, a guestimate of 25% influence to each, which is highly
unlikely but in the assignation of care it is impossible to give the extent in
some cases.  If someone with a blocked artery (we can physically see that) had a
procedure to clear said artery, we might attribute at least 50% (I am guesisng
here) to the surgery, perhaps 25% to medication, another 25% to rahab, etc.
I am throwing these out as a points to consider scenario if we were to add
qigong, another layer of consideration for thinking!


Stanton Alleyne

#1261

From: "yazid904" <yazid904@...>
Date: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:56 am
Subject: Medical Qigong: presentation: Part II

yazid904

I have noted that there are a few of us out there who consider Reiki as part of
qigong, generally speaking but to me, it is more akin to wai qi zhi liao
(external qi healing). Perhaps a starting point is to define what we mean when
we use certain terms that are not a part of normal discourse.

TCM/CCM has as part of its core the following:
1. Acupuncture
2. Herbal Medicine
3. Guasha/Tuina
4. Nutrition
5. Bigu
NOTE: Whether bigu and nutrition belong together or should be seaprated is an
interesting point
6. As to whether qigong is part of the mix of the above is debatable.
The Medical Qigong addition has been made such in the 1920's and formalized in
the 1950's due to reformulation of health and wellbeing into the public domain.
This is not to say it was never important but it had a lesser influence prior at
the end of the Qing period.

Stanton Alleyne

#1262

From: Qi Dao <wish_qidao@...>
Date: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:03 pm
Subject: Qi Dao -- March/April 2009

wish_qidao

Qi Dao --- March/April 2009

Qi = vital energy, life force; Dao = law behind everything.

Qi Dao, the E-newsletter designed for all qigong/Taiji practitioners and other spiritual cultivators, promotes philosophy and methods of human self-healing and mind power, and shares knowledge and experiences with those who are interested in human self-healing and mind power and their applications in health and healing.

Read entire Qi Dao at: http://www.wishus.org/newsletter/Qidao_0409.pdf

Research Update -- How Many People Practice Qigong in the U.S.?
        An update on numbers of the practitioners of CAM and Qigong in the U.S. More people are joining in the idea that Qigong can benefit their physical and mental health.

Topic on Research -- Scientific Exploration of Qi � Part 5b, Heaven Energy of the Stars
        Marty Eisen continues his series from the previous QiDao newsletters. He looks at the Chinese Zodiac Calendar and the Astrological Calendar.

East-West Perspective -- Introduction to Yin Yang Theory
        With wonderful pictures and descriptions, Kevin Chen shares with us what he has discovered about Yin Yang Theory. He further writes about Traditional Chinese Medicine and how it relates to the human body in particular through the ideas of Yin Yang.

From the Qi Dao Master
        Lama Tantrapa shares his view of Yin and Yang in the movement practice of Qi Dao

A Comedy Moment -- Keep an open mind and laugh!

Illuminating the Dao -- The yang and the yin of the mind-body creation cycle
        Michelle Wood discusses how we look at the health of our bodies in relationship to the mind. She discusses yin and yang and how our bodies receive their messages. How the body receives these messages may in turn cause pain and muscular aches or if the body receives it positively, it may have energy and wisdom.

East-West Perspective -- Yin, Yang and Work Life Balance
        Peter Morgan talks about real life and the balance between work and life. He talks about the powers of Yin and Yang and what can happen when we become unbalanced due to work.

Method of Self Healing -- Healing and Transformation
        Knowing he had terminal cancer, Dr. Martin Brofman shares with us the way looking at life can make a difference and in turn declares that �anyone can be healed.�

Food as Medicine -- Seasonal Harmony
        Ellasara Kling takes a look at how Yin and Yang interplay within our bodies and what the effects of different foods are in terms of cooling or heating the body.

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#1263

From: "Mike Turner" <letouch@...>
Date: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:53 pm
Subject: Re:Medical Qigong: presentation: Part II

letouch2002

I am sorry, but what is the core reason for this group again?

I thought that it was about discussing the use of Qi in healing.... Would you not include any form of Qi manipulation that heals in this forum?

My study has shown that Qigong is the 'mother' of acupuncture, is this not correct?

I practice multiple forms of bodywork, including the use of moving Qi while working on clients. The act of putting my hands near a client changes their Qi flow; therefore should bodywork also be included in this forum?

Trying to be the best healer i can, mike

Thanks.

#1264

From: "Kevin Chen" <kchen@...>
Date: Fri May 29, 2009 10:22 pm
Subject: RE: How to present cases in Medical QIgong; A short list

kchen@...

Dear Stanton,

This is a very good place for starter. For those who want to document recovery from cancer or similar chronic conditions, you may look at the NCI’s best case series by Office of Cancer Complementary and Alternative Medicine, which offers details on how to document your progress through alternative therapies, and what medical records are appropriate. If you can successfully document four cases of cancer recovery by a specific technique or method, NCI may consider funding a clinical study with the practitioner… promising but a lot of works involved.

Here is the link to NCI’s best case series: http://www.cancer.gov/cam/bestcase_intro.html

Kevin

From: qiresearch@yahoogroups.com [mailto:qiresearch@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of yazid904
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 10:08 AM
To: qiresearch@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [qiresearch] How to present cases in Medical QIgong; A short list

Many times when cases concrning Medical Qigong are profiled, the actual events leading to the amelioration (cure!) of the patient/subject are omitted while attempts are made to connect said remission/amelioration with speciifc Qigong technology.
There are many factors affecting outcomes in qigong and it is am impossibiloity to use objective criteria for all, and it depends on the various spheres of understanding, belief systems and technologies used within the healing process.

a Name the disease condition.
This is always well documented but it is better to include severity of disease and the drugs taken to cure! the individual.

b. Name all alternative (usually complementary in nature) methods.
This is terribly done in many case (and as an extension, testimonials).
These need to be developed regarding additional methods being used in addition to allopathic intervention.

c. What is the name of the Qigong technology/intervention being deployed? This is lacking in 95% of all cases. Whether it is a ploy, or at best a stratgy, to invoke more interest MAY be debatable.
The ahistorical/hagiographical commnetary within a historical context is that qigong has always been 'secret', for lack of a better description. That being said, the 1980's was a time when qigong came out of the closet implying the tools were made available to present said health technology to the greater public. Now we have cases being profiled to show how powerful qigong is but the objective criteria is rarely mentioned. What are we to think? What commentary is deserving to describe why this happens and continues to happen? Perhaps further commentary is warranted for this lack of transparency!

SOLUTION
What I expect to see from qigong cases or testimonials!
1. Name of system: i.e. xiang gong. Now we have a reference!
2. Why was it used as opposed to another method (1.e. baojiangong)
3. What was the duration of xiang gong prescription?
a. How long was the training phase
b. How long was the intervention phase?
c. At what stage was some kind of result was seen? Weeks, hours, days!!
d. Other that the qigong method, what was the subject taking (medication, if any), OR some other type of intervention (herbal medicine, etc)
e. What was the state of the patient/subject? Bedridden, wheelchair, etc.

The totality of these add to the veracity of the cases presented and provides a further framework for qigong to be taken seriously instead of relying on mystical modes of non-expression!

I want to reiterate that if a person has undergone surgery, taking medication, doing physical therapy and yoga these are 4 spheres of care, of which I attribute at least, a guestimate of 25% influence to each, which is highly unlikely but in the assignation of care it is impossible to give the extent in some cases. If someone with a blocked artery (we can physically see that) had a procedure to clear said artery, we might attribute at least 50% (I am guesisng here) to the surgery, perhaps 25% to medication, another 25% to rahab, etc.
I am throwing these out as a points to consider scenario if we were to add qigong, another layer of consideration for thinking!

Stanton Alleyne

#1265

From: Kevin W Chen <chenke@...>
Date: Sat Jun 6, 2009 5:16 pm
Subject: Effects of external qi of qigong with opposing intentions on proliferation of E-coli.

qigong4us

Shao L, Zhang J, Chen L, Zhang X, Chen KW.
Effects of external qi of qigong with opposing intentions on proliferation of Escherichia coli.
J Altern Complement Med. 2009 May;15(5):567-71.

BACKGROUND: The existence and characteristics of external qi (EQ) in qigong therapy has long been subject to scientific debate and rigorous examination. The therapist's intent has played an important role in many studies. This study investigates the effect of EQ with opposing intentions on the proliferation of Escherichia coli. METHODS: We performed two studies with the same design. In study 1, 75 5-mL tubes containing test samples (3 mL each) were randomly divided into three groups: control, promoted, and inhibited group (25 each). In study 2, three 96-well plates with test samples (200 microL each) were randomly designated as control, promoted, or inhibited. Test samples were placed 60 cm apart on a bench with control in the middle. A qigong therapist performed EQ with either promoting or killing intent for 15 minutes each on the treatment groups. After incubation for 24 hours, optical density of the E. coli samples was measured at 600 nm (OD(600)). RESULTS: In the initial experiment of both studies, the OD(600) value of the promoted group was significantly higher than that of control (p < 0.05), while the OD(600) value of the inhibited group was significantly lower than that of the control group (p < 0.01), suggesting that the healer's intent played a critical role in the effects of EQ on E.coli proliferation. However, subsequent experiments did not replicate the initial finding in either study and showed a pattern of declining effect. CONCLUSION: A healer's intent may affect the proliferation of microbes with specificity and directivity, so future studies of bioenergy healing should take the role of intention into consideration. The circumstances surrounding replication of the results in such biofield studies need further exploration.

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Or drop me a note. :)

Kevin