Khepri,

I would think chiropractic is science, and it should be a team; and
i need a voice too; but they fear me;

yeah, your right in that they always seem to need to protect
themselves from sueing (sp?) but i never sued;

it's like this feeling, i don't go around and steel, but i am
treated as if i am steeling as they are afraid of what i will steel;
after a while it henders any of my ability to communicate;

and as time goes by it builds up in me and then the chalange is is
to relate it to someone, but it's like so much to say; and is it
really understood, as docs seem to be like gods and me my soul is
worth less then a dollor bill on earth;

but i think, and i reason, and i anolyze, and i am not heard due to
fear; i use the steeling thing as an example;

i would get angry at my body, cause it would be so much easier as
when i was pleased with my body before i saw a chiro if it went well
with the chiro, then i can praise him...

it's so easy to praise a person, but it's so hard to share when
theres a problem;

anyways, i am seeking to understand other ways, beside chiros, and
theres this drawing up there in the home page, of that person
sitting, and well, all that words, does any of that adjust or is it
all stretches and breathing....

it seems you trust chiros, even if what they are doing don't feel
right; do you ever start anolyzing what is going on?

also am i understanding correctly that your saying you have what i
have in that the spine is some what curved and twisted so then it
creats numbness?

I use to take care of it myself and now as i have studied, what i
was doing is pressing on the right side, of my back so the left side
can feel, by then the spineous (sp?) prossess (sp?) is then pointing
to the right, cause if they are centered then it causes the
numbness,

so here with out understanding all of this, as i would be in a car,
i would like take my left hand and press on the steering wheel,
while my right hand is pressing on the back of the passenger side,
and while my right side of my back was pressing on the edge of the
drivers seat, all at once as i press, it felt so good on my numb
area of my left side of my back, as it allowed it to feel;

but what i was really doing, now looking back is i was forcing the
spineous prossess to go to the right instead of centered, and that
allowed me to feel; but when i saw a chiro, he disregard of my spin
twisted to the left while spine slightly curved to the right, and he
thought no wrong, spineous prossess shouldn't be to the right, one
must center them, so he took his hands and press on both side of the
back, even; and suddenly numbess;

when i told him, i feel numb on the left side he quickly dismiss me,
as suddenly fear rose in the air; and i felt like some kind of enemy
out there to hurt others; when i am a very kind nice careing person.

so there is the back, how ever as i was able to keep my head stable
before seeing a chiro, the chiro made it where my head was so heavy,
that i had to look to the ground, it would be so hard for me to even
sit and watch tv; so i would live my life lying down...

later due to i had to, i studyied, and learn what happen; some how
as the chiro adjusted my neck he offseted the atlas which is the
first vertabra of the neck;

so as he centered the spineous prosess, that then caused me numbess
on the left side of back, when i would allow me to feel on the right
side, as i would trigger the spineous prosess to go to the right; if
he only did this, i would of just look for a car, and just undo what
he did; but when my atlas was misalign, in making my head so heavy,
i had no clue how to get it where my head would feel stable;

so i was on a chase;

you see about the back, i learn that from a fluke, as i had to reach
for something in the back seat in a hurry as i was behind a red
light, and my back adjusted and i was able to feel, and so i learn
from that; but about the neck, i wasn't learning it from a fluke,
instead, i was like feeling like i lost it;

(excuse useage of words, here, i don't know if that is how one use
the word fluke; still, i am catching up with the hearing world as i
use to be deaf, and now i can hear well; which it confuse me when i
was with chiros, some how i felt as if i was deaf all over again,
and when i was deaf i didn't know many words, and sight and feeling
thoughts with out words, is like being in an invisible prison, as i
couldn't get my needs across; and suddenly i knew feel thought in my
body, but no words for the chiro, plus his hurry ways, made my mind
go blank; i felt as if i was repeating my childhood)

now, so here was the problem, and looking back, if he only wasn't
afraid of me, it could of been resolved so easiely, but no...
instead i had to figure it out, as he would dismiss me and call me
rare;

and it was then, as i was on that chase, i felt as if my soul was
worth less then a dollar bill; and i wanted to leave earth, due to
no one cared, as they all feared me, even though i wasn't sueing;

but of corse i didn't leave earth, instead i kept going through the
trial and started studying on the net about the spine.

Susie


--- In qigongkundalini@yahoogroups.com, Khepri <khepri@p...> wrote:
>
>
> howdoiadjustself wrote:
> > question if any of you can relate;
> >
> > I went to see a chiropractor; yet before i went i was pleased
with
> > my body; but i went due to i wanted to learn...
> >
> > you see, before seeing a chiro i would adjust myself that worked
in
> > allowing me to feel on the left side of upper back;
> >
> > but what was sad, is when i went to see chiro, he made my left
side
> > of my upper back numb, and also add me other problems like in
> > makeing my head heavy, in where it was hard for me to look
straight,
> > as i had to look to the ground;
> >
>
> That is very common when first being adjusted....sometimes I get
so
> light-headed I wonder if I'll pass out!
>
> With the body re-aligned, it has to use neural pathways that it is
> unaccustomed to giving the strange sensations...they pass with
time and
> eventually the new alignment "feels" normal....
>
> > it led me on a chase, to try to get my body back to how it was
> > before i ever went;
>
> Not really good idea...you're just undoing the realignment...
>
> > then in my chase, i met this other chiro who solved the head
problem
> > but then led me to have a different problem in where then my
head is
> > to heavy in where it needs to lean towards my left shoulder;
>
> hmmmm.
>
> > 5 years went by in my chase to try to get my body back, and i
felt
> > like as if everyone was blaming me; like as if only; only if i
did
> > this or that;
> >
> > then one day, i was talking to people on the elevator, and my
> > neighbor said, he can adjust my neck;
> >
> > so we went to a chair, and he did so, and it worked for my neck;
> >
> > he said he learn it from a masuse (sp?)
> >
> > also i learn how to get my upper back to how it use to be so
then i
> > can feel on my left side of my back; i figure this myself; i can
> > explain how if your insterested in more detail.
>
> Perhaps an old injury that heled in the worng wy, but now
feels "right"..
>
> The problem arises in it not being "right" and over the years does
more
> damage than would normally occur...
>
> The body naturally becomes accustomed to these "deformities"..a
survival
> thing of sorts.....however it may be worse over aa long time
> period...decades....
>
> I have the same problem described above...
>
>
> > but all i have left now is my low back, in trying to get that
back
> > to how it was; as one chiro gave me problems in that area;
>
> same same
>
>
> > you would think i would ask my neighbor how to do the lower
back,
> > but suddenly as i ask him, he's afraid of me;
> >
> > but afraid of what?
>
> lawsuits, injury....?
>
> > chiros are afraid of me; and now he;
> >
> > why?
>
> same same...plus you seem to wantto constantly undo their
work.....which
> evetually might lead to accusations of malpractice....
>
> > all i can think of as my nieghbor isnt' a chiro or a masuse
(sp?) is
> > maybe his friend the masuse told him never to do it again, cause
> > what if i get hurt?
>
> Exactly.
>
> > his friend who's a masuse lives to far away for
> > me to see; i wish though my neighbor would allow me to write to
his
> > friend, maybe i will ask my neighbor if i can.
> >
> > so any ways, do any of you relate with this; so now i am
learning
> > like exploring in even in this group; reading away, in seeing in
how
> > i can get my lower back back to how it was;
>
> You want it to "feel" like it used to feel....unfortunately
it "feels
> right" when it is out of adjustment....
>
> I believe that the discomfort *should* be short term and eventully
go
> away.....but if you undo it the process must restart time and time
> again....you never make any progress.....
>
> It's the double edged sword....
>
> > this is hard to write, cause it seems so like, so much to write,
yet
> > is it understood;
> >
> > susie
>
> There is always the possibility that they are not good
chiropractors..:)
>
> Personally I only go to chiros thathave been in practice at least
15 to
> 20 years....I like to go with experience...:)
>
> The hardest thing about visitied chiros isnot undoing their
work...I am
> guilty myself...especially with the neck.....it's a habit I must
undo!
>
> Khepri