KINDLY FORWARD TO A PSYCH MAJOR

http://www.fireflySun.com/news.html

Student advocate, social psychologist, author, and psych critic Wyatt
Ehrenfels traveled to North Jersey, where he was interviewed by
Communications Commissioner for Oakland, NJ, Al DiGiacomo. Ehrenfels
was asked to appear on two episodes of a cable access program,
Alternatives. PART I of the interview, airing every week in May,
addressed his cancer psychology dream research, adverse impact for
dream researchers, and the 'para-skeptical contempt' with which psych
profs manage a neglect and distortion of this phenomenon. PART II,
airing every week in June, addresses Ehrenfels's critique of
psychology and its public instrument, the book "Fireflies in the
Shadow of the Sun." Other topics included Wyatt's critique of
knowledge production in Psychology,  the "Shadow DSM," and efforts by
psych profs to keep Ehrenfels from reaching their students. In
addition to numerous state politicians, other noted guests on
DiGiacomo's program included consumer advocate and Green Party
Presidential candidate Ralph Nader, John Hagelin, Natural Law
Party candidate, actress Rita Moreno, and researcher Robert Cohen.

Whatever you think of Ehrenfels's "expeditionary" research or the
philosophy of science that puts him at odds with his peers, Ehrenfels
is widely praised for his dissemination of the obstacles to graduate
admission and post-bacceleaurate employment that dog psych majors and
that psych professors are reluctant to disclose.

With the consent of OK-TV, public access television serving the
Borough of Manhattan (New York) contacted Ehrenfels for a copy of the
tape to re-broadcast the interviews. The interview is expected to open
doors for the psychology critic, who was authorized with the blessing
of OKTV to distribute the tape to distributors of public access
television across the country.

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I would like to invite you to view and possibly join a new forum on
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dissertation.  I am looking for men who are married to women who use
a different last name from their husbands (i.e. wife retained
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last name; she uses one name professionally and another name in her
personal life; she uses a hyphenated last name), and who would be
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perceptions of marriage.  If you are a married man and would like to
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This research was approved by the Human Subjects Protection Committee
at Alliant International University.  Please pass this message on to
as many people as you can: husbands, family, friends, colleagues,
male, female, married or not, so it reaches as many married men as
possible.  Your help and participation is greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
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Do you know a married man?  Is he married to a woman who retained her
last name upon marriage?

I am a doctoral student researching marriage and husbands.  I am
looking for married men, especially men who are married to women who
use a different last name from thier husbands (i.e. wife retained
her "maiden" name or she uses one name professionally and another
name in her personal life or she uses a hyphenated last name), and
who would be willing to participate in an online survey about married
men's perceptions of marriage.  If you are a married man and would
like to participate, please click on the link below.  The survey
takes approximately 20 minutes to complete.  All responses are
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This research was approved by the Human Subjects Protection Committe
at Alliant International University.  Please pass this message on to
as many people as you can: husbands, family, friends, colleagues,
male, female, married or not, so it reaches as many married men as
possible.  Your help and participation is greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
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The psychology novel, Fireflies in the Shadow of the Sun, is now
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Selling their souls for tenure (i.e., life after the PhD), they seek
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But can Psychology manage this community and domesticate its human
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It came bearing standards for mental health and scientific research.
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assume control of a profession, it must meet the approval of the
profession's sole accrediting body. With a National Psychology
Association inspection waiting in the wings, the faculty of the
National School of Professional Psychology (NSPP) turns inward to
realize its vision of mental hygiene within its own walls. It was the
perfect plan...

...Until it casts a covetous eye on the careers of four graduate
students who came bearing something other than the school banner.
They brought their humanity. For THAT, they would be imperilled: (1)
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(2) Aniela Mason, for sharing his name; (3) Matthew Sykes, for
original and independent thinking; and (4) Angela Jewell, for
requesting accommodations for her visual disability. These "imperfect
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and, by extension, the human psyche.

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meaningful coincidences that these young visionaries learn their
plight itself is symptomatic of a disturbance to structures beneath
the crust of human consciousness. Now these students find themselves
caught between the need to defend their careers and a higher call to
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I am a secular, freethinking person. To my friends and I, organized
religion and mental health are incompatible. Yet in my city, the 2
are one. A woman in my state college told me, " I want to get out and
work as a therapist but I worry if I will find work. The seminaries
in town graduate so many people, and they work so cheaply, they're
taking over." Now, this is Louisville and the Baptist seminary has
been growing more conservative and rabid by the years. The idea that
ANY person adhering to any organized religion can be a good mental
health professional is absurd. Pseudo-science! Bigotry! Close
mindedness! Lack of intellectual integrity! Contamination with social
control! Guilt! Anti-sexuality! The list goes on. ---Always ask any
therapist of any degree..are you a graduate of a seminary, or
religious. If they say yes..run like hell.
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>>>received ECT becauset they did not diagnose my type 11 diabetes.<<<

May I suggest that you received ECT DESPITE your type II diabetes. The
so-called services providers foremost have a political point of view to
disseminate; treatment for people in dire emotional straits has sunken
almost out of sight on the list of priorities.

Mental health services providers also engage in an elitist profession: no
profession rivals the racial, gender, & social stereotyping that goes on
with mental health care people. Few professions are as beholden to the
insurance industry.

Help your children, but do not die for them; they won't thank you (they'd
like to, but sounds like they're busy with an idealized notion of
themselves). Maybe look for family therapy help in your area.

Fascist scumbag.



>From: "jeannemk40" <jeannemk40@...>
>Reply-To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
>To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [pseudoscience-in-psych] Advocating for change in our mental
>health/substance abuse system.
>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:20:42 -0000
>
>I am the parent, of a young adult, with mental health and substance
>abuse issues. I have seen first hand, parents blamed, for their
>childrens illness. I have see first hand, proffesionals hurt
>families,
>by not taking the time with parents, to understand what is going on
>in the family. I have seen first hand when a proffesional has only
>worked with the perspective of the child, and not checked whith the
>parent to confirm what is going on. It is un-nerving when parents
>are trying to do the right thing by their children and seek
>proffesion help only to be undermind by the servcie provider. It is
>a sad day when a child can manipulate our court systems when they
>have documented mental health and substance abuse problems.  It is
>even sadder when proffesionals do not have adequete time to take
>with families, or clients.
>
>My experience is that this leaves the family unit at risk, when they
>are most in need. Intensive case management services are often
>hidden, by the very services which provide them.
>
>It is time for some changes. Often someone with substance abuse
>problems have much deeper issues. Thankfully the days of sending the
>substance abuser just to AA are over.
>
>Now it is time for another change. Our substance abuse population
>often has serious mental health issues. Keeping our children clean
>is only part of the solution. We need competent providers and
>linkages yet our society has such deep privacy issues it is often
>hard to sort out the truth.
>
>Providers need to work with parents and not against them.  Providers
>need to work together to compliment our clients and not with
>compittion betwen them.
>
>The age old saying it takes a community to raise a child needs to
>come back, into play. This needs to start at the begining of
>services and not when things have become crisis.
>
>The horor of being in or watching a family go down the tubs because
>someone in our system is limited in time or resources needs to
>change. It takes a very loving and special parent to struggle
>through our mental health and substance abuse systems. It is time to
>inpower theparents and families of the  mentaly ill/
>substance abusing clients. How else can the family attempt to bring
>back or help a child become a productive member of our society.
>
>Our mental health service need to be provided by people, who have
>actually worked with clients and not just under taken the practice
>and theory of social work.
>
>It is time to come together and not close the doors with more
>legalities than any family should have to face. It is time for
>intensive family service to be provided at the beginning of
>treatment, and not when all else is failing. It is time for families
>and service provider to come together. The days of no beds in the
>inn, in the Rochester NY service area, needs to stop.
>
>The time to remove stigma is now. We need to decide if hiding
>behind, confidentiallity is helpful or hurtful. It is time to work
>from the bottom up and ask the family what is needed and not decide
>for them. It is time for action we have talked for far to many
>years.
>
>
>Social Change is needed, are we really going in the right direction?
>We have been talking about linking services for over ten years. Can
>we get it done in the next 12 months, before we lose another family
>or child.
>
>

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I'm sorry to say this, but the first mistake a
concerned parent can make is to take their child to "
mental health practioner" in the first place.


--- jeannemk40 <jeannemk40@...> wrote:
> I am the parent, of a young adult, with mental
> health and substance
> abuse issues. I have seen first hand, parents
> blamed, for their
> childrens illness. I have see first hand,
> proffesionals hurt
> families,
> by not taking the time with parents, to understand
> what is going on
> in the family. I have seen first hand when a
> proffesional has only
> worked with the perspective of the child, and not
> checked whith the
> parent to confirm what is going on. It is un-nerving
> when parents
> are trying to do the right thing by their children
> and seek
> proffesion help only to be undermind by the servcie
> provider. It is
> a sad day when a child can manipulate our court
> systems when they
> have documented mental health and substance abuse
> problems.  It is
> even sadder when proffesionals do not have adequete
> time to take
> with families, or clients.
>
> My experience is that this leaves the family unit at
> risk, when they
> are most in need. Intensive case management services
> are often
> hidden, by the very services which provide them.
>
> It is time for some changes. Often someone with
> substance abuse
> problems have much deeper issues. Thankfully the
> days of sending the
> substance abuser just to AA are over.
>
> Now it is time for another change. Our substance
> abuse population
> often has serious mental health issues. Keeping our
> children clean
> is only part of the solution. We need competent
> providers and
> linkages yet our society has such deep privacy
> issues it is often
> hard to sort out the truth.
>
> Providers need to work with parents and not against
> them.  Providers
> need to work together to compliment our clients and
> not with
> compittion betwen them.
>
> The age old saying it takes a community to raise a
> child needs to
> come back, into play. This needs to start at the
> begining of
> services and not when things have become crisis.
>
> The horor of being in or watching a family go down
> the tubs because
> someone in our system is limited in time or
> resources needs to
> change. It takes a very loving and special parent to
> struggle
> through our mental health and substance abuse
> systems. It is time to
> inpower theparents and families of the  mentaly ill/
>
> substance abusing clients. How else can the family
> attempt to bring
> back or help a child become a productive member of
> our society.
>
> Our mental health service need to be provided by
> people, who have
> actually worked with clients and not just under
> taken the practice
> and theory of social work.
>
> It is time to come together and not close the doors
> with more
> legalities than any family should have to face. It
> is time for
> intensive family service to be provided at the
> beginning of
> treatment, and not when all else is failing. It is
> time for families
> and service provider to come together. The days of
> no beds in the
> inn, in the Rochester NY service area, needs to
> stop.
>
> The time to remove stigma is now. We need to decide
> if hiding
> behind, confidentiallity is helpful or hurtful. It
> is time to work
> from the bottom up and ask the family what is needed
> and not decide
> for them. It is time for action we have talked for
> far to many
> years.
>
>
> Social Change is needed, are we really going in the
> right direction?
> We have been talking about linking services for over
> ten years. Can
> we get it done in the next 12 months, before we lose
> another family
> or child.
>
>
>


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I am the parent, of a young adult, with mental health and substance
abuse issues. I have seen first hand, parents blamed, for their
childrens illness. I have see first hand, proffesionals hurt
families,
by not taking the time with parents, to understand what is going on
in the family. I have seen first hand when a proffesional has only
worked with the perspective of the child, and not checked whith the
parent to confirm what is going on. It is un-nerving when parents
are trying to do the right thing by their children and seek
proffesion help only to be undermind by the servcie provider. It is
a sad day when a child can manipulate our court systems when they
have documented mental health and substance abuse problems.  It is
even sadder when proffesionals do not have adequete time to take
with families, or clients.

My experience is that this leaves the family unit at risk, when they
are most in need. Intensive case management services are often
hidden, by the very services which provide them.

It is time for some changes. Often someone with substance abuse
problems have much deeper issues. Thankfully the days of sending the
substance abuser just to AA are over.

Now it is time for another change. Our substance abuse population
often has serious mental health issues. Keeping our children clean
is only part of the solution. We need competent providers and
linkages yet our society has such deep privacy issues it is often
hard to sort out the truth.

Providers need to work with parents and not against them.  Providers
need to work together to compliment our clients and not with
compittion betwen them.

The age old saying it takes a community to raise a child needs to
come back, into play. This needs to start at the begining of
services and not when things have become crisis.

The horor of being in or watching a family go down the tubs because
someone in our system is limited in time or resources needs to
change. It takes a very loving and special parent to struggle
through our mental health and substance abuse systems. It is time to
inpower theparents and families of the  mentaly ill/
substance abusing clients. How else can the family attempt to bring
back or help a child become a productive member of our society.

Our mental health service need to be provided by people, who have
actually worked with clients and not just under taken the practice
and theory of social work.

It is time to come together and not close the doors with more
legalities than any family should have to face. It is time for
intensive family service to be provided at the beginning of
treatment, and not when all else is failing. It is time for families
and service provider to come together. The days of no beds in the
inn, in the Rochester NY service area, needs to stop.

The time to remove stigma is now. We need to decide if hiding
behind, confidentiallity is helpful or hurtful. It is time to work
from the bottom up and ask the family what is needed and not decide
for them. It is time for action we have talked for far to many
years.


Social Change is needed, are we really going in the right direction?
We have been talking about linking services for over ten years. Can
we get it done in the next 12 months, before we lose another family
or child.

Shut down the mental health system.


>From: "Adrienne Wankiewicz" <AdrienneWankiewicz100@...>
>Reply-To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
>To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [pseudoscience-in-psych] Concern for competence in making
>choice by family member.
>Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:54:06 -0800
>
>Get lost you fascist weirdo.
>
>
> >From: "jeannemk40" <jeannemk40@...>
> >Reply-To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
> >To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [pseudoscience-in-psych] Concern for competence in making choice
> >by family member.
> >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:44:44 -0000
> >
> >I am very concerned when our treatment centers push our 18 year olds
> >into making choices which they may not be able too. As a parent of a
> >18 year old who has substance abuse and mental health issues, I am
> >very concerned for the safety of my son and others children.
> >
> >I am an educated comsumer of services and former student of
> >community counselling. I have seen the flustrations first hand of
> >parents struggling to get services for our children. I have seen the
> >sugcess and failure of our states pins system.
> >
> >I would like to advocate for change. I believe we never stop being a
> >parent. Especailly when our child has mental health issues. I hope
> >to advocate for and see our mental health and substance abuse
> >systems linked.
> >
> >I would like to see parents rights not be stomped on. It is hard
> >enough for a parent to take the steps to go through our family court
> >sytems only to have blame layed on us for our chidrens problems.
> >
>
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>From: "jeannemk40" <jeannemk40@...>
>Reply-To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
>To: pseudoscience-in-psych@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [pseudoscience-in-psych] Concern for competence in making choice
>by family member.
>Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:44:44 -0000
>
>I am very concerned when our treatment centers push our 18 year olds
>into making choices which they may not be able too. As a parent of a
>18 year old who has substance abuse and mental health issues, I am
>very concerned for the safety of my son and others children.
>
>I am an educated comsumer of services and former student of
>community counselling. I have seen the flustrations first hand of
>parents struggling to get services for our children. I have seen the
>sugcess and failure of our states pins system.
>
>I would like to advocate for change. I believe we never stop being a
>parent. Especailly when our child has mental health issues. I hope
>to advocate for and see our mental health and substance abuse
>systems linked.
>
>I would like to see parents rights not be stomped on. It is hard
>enough for a parent to take the steps to go through our family court
>sytems only to have blame layed on us for our chidrens problems.
>

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>>>The republic of Slovenia (formerly part of Yugoslavia) is the First Free
Shock Zone<<<

Should that be "Shock-Free Zone?" Or is the first one really free & all
subsequent Tx $1899.99? ECT-crazy docs don't need a promo scheme like that.

www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_10.12.00/news/shock.html

My link to my story was covered up by the advertisement on this site.
The link re this story is:
www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_10.12.00/news/shock.html

The American Food and Drug Administration has announced in the year
2000 that ECT (electroshock) may cause brain damage and permanent
mmemory loss. For more on this story see this URL:
www.eye.net/eye/issue/issue_10.12.00/news/shock.html

Hello, I am Sue Clark and I am from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.  I am a
psychiatric survivor.  I am an antipsychiatry and antipoverty
activist.  I have an antipsychiatry website at the URL:
http://www.geocities.com/sueclark2001ca/   I am an ECT (electroshock)
survivor.

My website depicts my l8 years of being in and out of psychiatric
hospitals and wards from the age of l7 years old.  I have on my
website, 8 chapters of my online book entitled "Behind the Locked
Ward".  I also have information about the ECT the barbaric treatment
that is still being given to people.  10,000 people in Canada and
100,000 people in the United States get ECT yearly.  ECT is a crime
against humanity and must be abolished.  The republic of Slovenia
(formerly part of Yugoslavia) is the First Free Shock Zone in the
World.  see this URL for more information:  www.banshock.org  for
more information on ECT visit these URLs:  www.ect.org,
www.breggin.com, www.mindfreedom.org

I welcome feedback, suggestions and comments on my website.  Please
email me at:  sueclark_2003@...   Thank you. Sue Clark,
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.  Telephone:  l-613-721-1833