Hello:

I am the moderator of another support group for prostatitis which
is very active. I have looked at the archives for your group and the
questions are excellent, but there is not much information
exchange going on. I would like to have you all join my group.
Here's a link.

Best regards,
David Cornell, M.D.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/prostatitis_atlanta/

>Men who ate the most vegetables containing allium...

The author of this article must have misstated what was intended.
Allium is the genus of a group of plants - garlic, leeks, onions, etc.
I'm sure "allicin" was the intended ingredient being referenced.  Be
that as it may, not all garlic is equal.  Just as with water, some is
better than other, and in some cases it's alot better.

Peter Josling, a reknown British scientist and researcher who has
spent the last 15 years devoted to the study of garlic, has a 90
minute recorded telephone presentation that is available 24/7.  It's
a very interesting and enlightening overview of the beneficial
natural antibiotic effects of garlic, and most particularly how his
new patented processing maintains 100% active allicin content in the
finished product. In this instance, the processed garlic is even more
potent than eating fresh cloves.  Just one capsule of his new
product, Alli-C, gives the potency equivalent of 20-30 fresh cloves
of raw garlic - but without the odor.  Garlic contains very powerful
natural antibiotic properties, even surpassing synthetic
antibiotics.   Alli-C has only been available in the U.S. since
December of 2002. The recorded call is at 1-512-404-2362.

Doug H




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wrote:
> Just came acoss this on a stock board and thought it was worth
> passing along.
>
> WASHINGTON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Men who eat plenty of onions,
> garlic and similar foods may irritate their romantic partners
> but may cut their risk of prostate cancer in half, researchers
> reported on Wednesday.
> Men who ate the most vegetables containing allium -- the
> pungent, sulfur-based compound blamed for the antisocial
> effects of garlic and onions -- had a 50 percent lower risk of
> having prostate cancer than those who ate the least, the study
> found.
> Ann Hsing of the National Cancer Institute and colleagues
> interviewed 238 men with prostate cancer and 471 men without
> prostate cancer about what they ate.
> Men who ate more than a third of an ounce (10 grams) a day
> of onions, garlic, chives or scallions were much less likely to
> be in the cancer group, Hsing reported in Wednesday's issue of
> the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

Spam?  I'm looking for information about health, and I could care
less whether someone is selling something, giving it away, or
referring me to someone else.  Information gives knowledge.
Knowledge gives the ability to make informed decisions.  An informed
decision gives me an edge.  So-called "spam" has given me many new
insights that I may have otherwise remained ignorant about in
maintaining my own health.  "Spam", in an indirect manner, gave me
Prostate-Specialist.  Prostate-Specialist gave me a healthier
prostate.  Thank God for "spam".

Doug H

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>
>
> Original Message -----
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>   To: prostatehealth@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:45 PM
>   Subject: [Prostate Health] Sorry!
>
>
>   I am new at working newsgroup and am learning quickly
>   how to, and not to post.  My name is Lisa Haber I am a
>   Registered Dietitian and author living in Edmonton,
>   Alberta, Canada. My book: "50 Ways to help protect
>   your prostate from cancer" is based on the Harvard
>   Research that showed a positive correlation between
>   increased consumption of tomatoes and decreased
>   incidence of prostate cancer.  The book contains 50
>   recipes using tomatoes, the recipes have a lot of
>   variety so that eating tomatoes on a regular basis is
>   not tedious.  The book has been very successful and
>   many who have read it suggested I take it to some
>   specific news groups on the internet to really get the
>   word out there.  And although many of your members may
>   already have had prostate cancer, or are battling with
>   it, what about their brothers, sons, etc, who still
>   have a prostate to save?  I am sorry that I went about
>   posting the wrong way.  If you have further questions,
>   please feel free to contact me at any time.
>   My Web Site: www.naturalhealthent.8m.com
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>   Lisa Haber
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kpbruno@...

Hello everyone,

For what it's worth here's my story which began in the first week of December,
2002. I am 55 years old.

I was experiencing a nagging ache in the abdomen area. The pain increased over
about 5 days so I went to my M.D. She diagnosed prostatitis (I guess, she never
actually named it - called it a "prostate inflammation") and prescribed a series
of two antibiotics. I think the second was a "flush"?

What I was not prepared for was the pain. Is it common to experience sharp
testicular pain with the condition? The pain shifts up to the abdomen whenever I
eat something. How would prostatitis affect the intestines and the bowel?

I did get a blood, urine and PSA tests yesterday.

I've never been one to run to the doctor for an antibiotic treatment, so I am a
neophyte. Yesterday I stopped taking the "flush" pills in utter frustration
because the pain only increased during this treatment. Last night was probably
the worst night so far with intense testicular pain, but now (the following
morning) I actually feel a bit better.

Burning question: how long can I expect the pain and discomfort to last?

Thanks for your help in advance. Feel free to email me at greg@... if you
can offer information.

greg



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Hello,



This is my first post here...........so I am a newbie. I guess I am
not a newbie to BPH as I have had some symptons on and off for a few
years. About 6 months ago I had a little flare up and was put on 1 mg.
of Terasozin.

This fall I saw a new endrocrinologist for my diabetes as my former
endo retired. She saw in my history that I had had some episodes of
kidney stones.
It had been a few years since I had an IVP of the  kidney performed so
she ordered one. No problems with stones, but it appeared the prostate
was pushing on the bladder, so she sent me to the urologist.


I saw him this week and just got the letter he sent to my Doctor and I
still have some questions. In the letter he states  " There is a very
large impression on the base of the bladder from the prostate gland.
His prostate is benign feeling. We checked his PSA and it is normal at
.2."

He then further states "....the impression on the bladder floor is
likely due to the prostate."

He suggested a follow-up in one year and to keep taking the Terasozin.





1) Should I get a second opinion?? This Urologist and I have a history
and he has tended to "pooh pooh" me in the past. In 1996 I went to him
with severe pain and passing gravel and he thought it was nothing. He
finally at my insistence went in and did a bladder exam and the
"kidney  stone" shot out at him and almost hit him. We live in a
somewhat remote area.........he is located 17 miles
away............the next nearest one is 60 miles away.


2) I know the .2 is a very low number.............but the words  "very
large" and "is likely due" bother me a lot. Could it be something
other than the prostate???


3) What about the Saw Palmetto? Do most of you take it? Are some
brands more pure or a better strength? Some I notice have other
ingredients like pumpkin seed oil, zinc, or Lycopene What about these
ingredients??

4) I saw some of you mention Prostatonin....what about it??



Not really many symptons now and that is why he said to just wait.


What has been some of your experiences????


Don


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Is a lower back ache generally associated with prostate cancer in its
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PLEASE do yourself a favor...Before you do SURGERY have A PROSTASCINT
test It is rather simple and it is the ONLY test that discovered that
my cancer was out of the gland..I had CT scans..Bone scans and
multiple of each with no sign of cancer spread THEN the prostascint
found it in the iliac lymph nodes..So please be careful...

I have been diagnosed with PC. My PSA is 6.7 and my Gleason rating is
6 (3+3). After consulting three Docrors, one a Radiologist, I have
chosen surgery as my method of treatment. Due to the size and
location I am told to anticipate a 100% recovery from PC and a 80%+
chance of returning to pre-surgical normalcies. My question is and I
have not received a satisfactory answer from any Doctor is what is
normal without Sperm. Any information is appreciated. I am also on
Yahoo messenger as OPDI

Here is the truth on all diseases click on link and watch the video
on docs are dead wrong >>> Thanks may god bless you all ...

http://www.sambiser.com/healing_videos/masterpages/video_gallery.html

I have been reading several postings in different news areas and
groups regarding the prostate BHP  and I wish to know what these are
1:( TURP  2:( Laserscope 3:( Other surgical  procedures

sincerely
Jack Dappen

jldappen@...

Just came acoss this on a stock board and thought it was worth
passing along.

WASHINGTON, Nov 6 (Reuters) - Men who eat plenty of onions,
garlic and similar foods may irritate their romantic partners
but may cut their risk of prostate cancer in half, researchers
reported on Wednesday.
Men who ate the most vegetables containing allium -- the
pungent, sulfur-based compound blamed for the antisocial
effects of garlic and onions -- had a 50 percent lower risk of
having prostate cancer than those who ate the least, the study
found.
Ann Hsing of the National Cancer Institute and colleagues
interviewed 238 men with prostate cancer and 471 men without
prostate cancer about what they ate.
Men who ate more than a third of an ounce (10 grams) a day
of onions, garlic, chives or scallions were much less likely to
be in the cancer group, Hsing reported in Wednesday's issue of
the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

I would be interested in hesring from anyone being treated
with "CASODEX" pills and "LUPRON" shoys . I am scheduled to start
such treatment in about two weeks. Have had Prostrater surgery/1996,
and Radiation 1999 and my PSA continues to go UP...

I don't mean it to be, I'm trying hard to get my
message out.

Lisa Haber
--- The Rescue Ranger <vance@...> wrote:
> looks like this is spam to me.
>
>
> Original Message -----
>   From: llhaber
>   To: prostatehealth@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:45 PM
>   Subject: [Prostate Health] Sorry!
>
>
>   I am new at working newsgroup and am learning
> quickly
>   how to, and not to post.  My name is Lisa Haber I
> am a
>   Registered Dietitian and author living in
> Edmonton,
>   Alberta, Canada. My book: "50 Ways to help protect
>   your prostate from cancer" is based on the Harvard
>   Research that showed a positive correlation
> between
>   increased consumption of tomatoes and decreased
>   incidence of prostate cancer.  The book contains
> 50
>   recipes using tomatoes, the recipes have a lot of
>   variety so that eating tomatoes on a regular basis
> is
>   not tedious.  The book has been very successful
> and
>   many who have read it suggested I take it to some
>   specific news groups on the internet to really get
> the
>   word out there.  And although many of your members
> may
>   already have had prostate cancer, or are battling
> with
>   it, what about their brothers, sons, etc, who
> still
>   have a prostate to save?  I am sorry that I went
> about
>   posting the wrong way.  If you have further
> questions,
>   please feel free to contact me at any time.
>   My Web Site: www.naturalhealthent.8m.com
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>   Lisa Haber
>
>
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looks like this is spam to me.


Original Message -----
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   To: prostatehealth@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 4:45 PM
   Subject: [Prostate Health] Sorry!


   I am new at working newsgroup and am learning quickly
   how to, and not to post.  My name is Lisa Haber I am a
   Registered Dietitian and author living in Edmonton,
   Alberta, Canada. My book: "50 Ways to help protect
   your prostate from cancer" is based on the Harvard
   Research that showed a positive correlation between
   increased consumption of tomatoes and decreased
   incidence of prostate cancer.  The book contains 50
   recipes using tomatoes, the recipes have a lot of
   variety so that eating tomatoes on a regular basis is
   not tedious.  The book has been very successful and
   many who have read it suggested I take it to some
   specific news groups on the internet to really get the
   word out there.  And although many of your members may
   already have had prostate cancer, or are battling with
   it, what about their brothers, sons, etc, who still
   have a prostate to save?  I am sorry that I went about
   posting the wrong way.  If you have further questions,
   please feel free to contact me at any time.
   My Web Site: www.naturalhealthent.8m.com

   Sincerely,

   Lisa Haber




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I am new at working newsgroup and am learning quickly
how to, and not to post.  My name is Lisa Haber I am a
Registered Dietitian and author living in Edmonton,
Alberta, Canada. My book: "50 Ways to help protect
your prostate from cancer" is based on the Harvard
Research that showed a positive correlation between
increased consumption of tomatoes and decreased
incidence of prostate cancer.  The book contains 50
recipes using tomatoes, the recipes have a lot of
variety so that eating tomatoes on a regular basis is
not tedious.  The book has been very successful and
many who have read it suggested I take it to some
specific news groups on the internet to really get the
word out there.  And although many of your members may
already have had prostate cancer, or are battling with
it, what about their brothers, sons, etc, who still
have a prostate to save?  I am sorry that I went about
posting the wrong way.  If you have further questions,
please feel free to contact me at any time.
My Web Site: www.naturalhealthent.8m.com

Sincerely,

Lisa Haber

50 Ways To Help Protect Your Prostate From Cancer
Is the title of my new book.  It is based on the
Harvard research that showed a positive correlation
between increased consumption of lycopene and
reduction of prostate cancer.  For more info, e-mail
me or check out: www.naturalhealthent.8m.com.

Sincerely,

Lisa Haber


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Is the title of my new book.  It is based on the Harvard research
that showed a positive correlation between increased consumption of
lycopene and reduction of prostate cancer.  For more info, e-mail me
or check out: www.naturalhealthent.8m.com.

Sincerely,

Lisa Haber

Has anyone had good luck with Flomax?  I've been on it for 2 months
now.  still having problems.


Vance

--- In prostatehealth@y..., "cavy986" <cavy986@y...> wrote:
> I have suffered from cronic prostatitis in the past,the first few
> infections were cleared up with antibiotics but over time the
> antibiotics became ineffective(I even had antibiotics injected
> dirrectly in the prostate), so I started taking Bee Pollen with
good
> results and over the past few years I had been mostly symptom free,
> until 2 weeks ago and now I have a infection of the prostate
> again.Please can anyone offer any help.Thank you.Charles I am
Interested in your product.

I have suffered from cronic prostatitis in the past,the first few
infections were cleared up with antibiotics but over time the
antibiotics became ineffective(I even had antibiotics injected
dirrectly in the prostate), so I started taking Bee Pollen with good
results and over the past few years I had been mostly symptom free,
until 2 weeks ago and now I have a infection of the prostate
again.Please can anyone offer any help.Thank you.

Its been awhile since I've posted here.  To refresh everyone's
memory, I elected to have robotic laproscopic surgery to remove my
prostate on January 3rd this year and have had 3 PSA tests since with
no detectable PSA and I remain 100% continent. But while I am very
thankful for that, I continue to remain impotent.  I've tried
caverject which turned out to be very painful to me (one time I had
to go to the emergency room because I had a 4 hour erection which was
the most painful experience of my life).  Muse didn't work and viagra
doesn't work.  Eight months post surgery I am sure is too soon to be
concerned that my impotence will be permanent.  I had the nerve
sparring proceedure but nothing seems to happening down there and I
am growing increasingly impatient.  I recently have began using a
pump and have had some satisfaction with it but it is very high
maintenance and my erections are not sustained and not very firm so I
am somewhat disappointed with that.

My focus recently has been to consider an implant if things have not
improved significantly after 18 months.  I am trying to gather some
comments from men who have chosen to receive a penile implant.  I
would like to know a few things.

1. How long after surgery did you wait to get the implant?
2. Are you happy with your decision?
3. How long is the implant good for?
4. (On a very personal note)Does it feel natural when erect?

I would appreciate any feed back on this issue.  Also I would
appreciate hearing from men who used viagra prior to surgery as my
doctor told me some men will not respond to viagra as well as they
did prior to prostate surgery.  Please help me in this regard.
Thanks for listening, hope to hear from you soon.

Dennis

Was your radiolgy treatment successful?  I started external beam
radiation with the BAT process yesterday.  This will be 5 days a week
for 9 weeks.
Karl

--- In prostatehealth@y..., rfayhallock <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Pacicare and the Veterans Administration gave me the choice of
either
> prostate surgery or prostate radiology.
> I wish I had the choice of having a coctor inject me with a needle
to
> freeze my cancer. I have hear of men around here,Prescott,Az who
have
> had this prostate cancer freezing process.
> I chose radiology over surgery. I finished my treatments last
> December.
> Bob
> Az

Pacicare and the Veterans Administration gave me the choice of either
prostate surgery or prostate radiology.
I wish I had the choice of having a coctor inject me with a needle to
freeze my cancer. I have hear of men around here,Prescott,Az who have
had this prostate cancer freezing process.
I chose radiology over surgery. I finished my treatments last
December.
Bob
Az

--- In prostatehealth@y..., dw <dw123150@y...> wrote:
>
> --- pcancerstudy <pcancerstudy@y...> wrote:
> > The actual web-site is www.kcr.uky.edu/prostate
> >
> > I would like to participate in the above study, but
> the address seems to be incorrect.  Can anyone give me
> the correct address. Thank you, DW Louisville, KY
>
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I have participated in this study, and the correct web address is:
http://www.kcr.uky.edu/prostate. Good Luck.

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> The actual web-site is www.kcr.uky.edu/prostate
>
> I would like to participate in the above study, but
the address seems to be incorrect.  Can anyone give me
the correct address. Thank you, DW Louisville, KY


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The actual web-site is www.kcr.uky.edu/prostate

Hello:

   I am posting this message to invite you to participate in a study
sponosered by the University of Kentucky's Department of Behavioral
Science.  We are conducting a survey to study the quality of life
post-Prostate Cancer treatments.  The results of the survey will be
held in complete confidence and not released to anyone outside the
study.  Participation in the study will take approximately 15-20min.
If you would like more information or you would like to participate
in the study please visit http://www.lcr.uky.edu/prostate.  Thank you
for your time and attention.