this on going problem for about 2 weeks- see you when i can get in..

Hello Jack,  Have we met somewhere in this life?  Hate to tell you that if you
would quit popping pills and come to chat, then we all could kick your a** and
you would feel much better.  Nothing can make a person trade in their crying
towel faster than a really good A** KICKING.  Well Jude and Ralph, Skye and her
mother and Tom (when he feels like it) will be enjoying each other down here in
the warm (upper 80's) state of Florida.  Now you could have joined us for a good
mental health vacation, but you were huddled up in your corner -------P &
M-------------.  GET BACK IN CHAT!!!!!!!!!!! Julie the chief Bu** kicker




> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack <jackay_boy@...>
> To: postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [postpoliosyndrome] Hello from Canada
> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:20:21 -0000
>
>
> I know it has been forever since I have been in chat, and I do
> really miss you all. However, I have been in such an emotional
> turmoil here that I am not fit for man nor beast.
> I wanted to let you all know about the medication that I was put on
> for pain management.
> The name of this pain medication is Sativex. It is a new medication
> put out by Bayer, and from what I am told, I am one of the few that
> have used this medication. Sativex is actually THC, which is the
> main ingredient of marijuana. I was very excited to get this
> medication, as I believed it would be an answer to getting off of
> the Oxycontin.
> Sativex comes in a spray bottle about half the size of a nasal
> spray. I was to take 2 squirts 4 times a day, which made 1 spray
> bottle last a little over 4 days. However, I was told that I could
> regulate the dosage as required to fight the pain.
> I was given 16 of these spray bottles and felt that I had enough to
> last me for quite awhile.
> I soon learned that you can build up an intolerance to this
> medication, and I was soon taking more than was prescribed. I was
> using 1 bottle of this spray everyday, and it leaves you with a
> horrible hangover if you take it at bedtime, or I actually zoned
> out if I took it during the day.
> This is not a good pain med, and I would advise anyone prescribed
> this med to avoid it completely. It does not really help with pain
> after you have taken it for a week or longer. It is very very
> expensive, costing $170.00 a bottle for about 4 ounces.
> My Nurse/Practitioner went back to Bayer to see if they would send
> more of this medication to the clinic, and was told no. If I wanted
> more of this med, I would need to purchase it from them. I don't
> know about you all, but I cannot afford $170.00 everyday for a pain
> med.
> So now I sit and wait for the Government to come through with a
> section 8 for my meds ( not the section 8 Klinger was always trying
> to get ) If and when I get this approval from the government for my
> medications I hopefully will get my life back on an even keel again.
> I tried every Insurance company in Canada trying to get Health
> Insurance, but was told the same thing by all of them, " we do not
> cover pre-existing conditions". So health insurance is not an
> option for me. When I lived in Alberta I had no problems getting my
> meds, as the government had so much money they subsidized
> everything.
> Here in Ontario the government is quite literally broke, and they
> will not help anyone.
> I could pay for my meds myself, but that would mean about $3500.00
> every 3 months. I really don't have the money for that.
> So now I sit in front of the TV all day eating Tylenol 4's like candy.
> I need my anti-depressant pills, as I am getting very very
> difficult to be around the depression has me down that bad. My wife
> is afraid to talk to me, and it takes very little for me to go off
> the deep end and get into a tantrum.
> I no longer have my BP meds, so I am taking aspirin in place of it.
> This combined with the Tylenol has me scared ***tless as I am
> getting some bleeding in my bladder.
> With this house eating up our savings, and the state of my
> emotions, I am sure that if the Government says no to my section 8,
> I will be moving back to Alberta, or end up eating a bottle of
> Tylenol to get past this situation I am in.
> I am not telling you this because I am looking for a shoulder to
> cry on, I just wanted to explain why I have not been in chat for
> such a long time.
> I hope you all are fine and enjoying this spring weather, as I
> think of you all often.
> I leave you with something to ponder with regards to the Sativex.
> Still wasting oxygen in Canada
> Jack

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I know it has been forever since I have been in chat, and I do really miss you
all. However, I have been in such an emotional turmoil here that I am not fit
for man nor beast.
I wanted to let you all know about the medication that I was put on for pain
management.
The name of this pain medication is Sativex. It is a new medication put out by
Bayer, and from what I am told, I am one of the few that have used this
medication. Sativex is actually THC, which is the main ingredient of marijuana.
I was very excited to get this medication, as I believed it would be an answer
to getting off of the Oxycontin.
Sativex comes in a spray bottle about half the size of a nasal spray. I was to
take 2 squirts 4 times a day, which made 1 spray bottle last a little over 4
days. However, I was told that I could regulate the dosage as required to fight
the pain.
I was given 16 of these spray bottles and felt that I had enough to last me for
quite awhile.
I soon learned that you can build up an intolerance to this medication, and I
was soon taking more than was prescribed. I was using 1 bottle of this spray
everyday, and it leaves you with a horrible hangover if you take it at bedtime,
or I actually zoned out if I took it during the day.
This is not a good pain med, and I would advise anyone prescribed this med to
avoid it completely. It does not really help with pain after you have taken it
for a week or longer. It is very very expensive, costing $170.00 a bottle for
about 4 ounces.
My Nurse/Practitioner went back to Bayer to see if they would send more of this
medication to the clinic, and was told no. If I wanted more of this med, I would
need to purchase it from them. I don't know about you all, but I cannot afford
$170.00 everyday for a pain med.
So now I sit and wait for the Government to come through with a section 8 for my
meds ( not the section 8 Klinger was always trying to get ) If and when I get
this approval from the government for my medications I hopefully will get my
life back on an even keel again.
I tried every Insurance company in Canada trying to get Health Insurance, but
was told the same thing by all of them, " we do not cover pre-existing
conditions". So health insurance is not an option for me. When I lived in
Alberta I had no problems getting my meds, as the government had so much money
they subsidized everything.
Here in Ontario the government is quite literally broke, and they will not help
anyone.
I could pay for my meds myself, but that would mean about $3500.00 every 3
months. I really don't have the money for that.
So now I sit in front of the TV all day eating Tylenol 4's like candy.
I need my anti-depressant pills, as I am getting very very difficult to be
around the depression has me down that bad. My wife is afraid to talk to me, and
it takes very little for me to go off the deep end and get into a tantrum.
I no longer have my BP meds, so I am taking aspirin in place of it. This
combined with the Tylenol has me scared ***tless as I am getting some bleeding
in my bladder.
With this house eating up our savings, and the state of my emotions, I am sure
that if the Government says no to my section 8, I will be moving back to
Alberta, or end up eating a bottle of Tylenol to get past this situation I am
in.
I am not telling you this because I am looking for a shoulder to cry on, I just
wanted to explain why I have not been in chat for such a long time.
I hope you all are fine and enjoying this spring weather, as I think of you all
often.
I leave you with something to ponder with regards to the Sativex.
Still wasting oxygen in Canada
Jack

I wanted to tell you that I have an appt. with a highly recommended neurologist
in about six weeks. I wanted to ask the group a few things.
First I would like to know if any members of this group go a doctor that IS
treating their PPS? Second, could any of your give me some input about what to
ask this doctor, what tests help diagnosing & treating PPS.  What should I
expect with this contact? Does anyone know where there are actual specialists
that treat PPS anywhere in California?  Thanks for your attention to my post &
thank you for those that answer me.
Marcia

Dear Shar~ Sorry I just found your post to me. Out of unusual circumstances, my
husband finally DID hear from someone else the "realities" of PPS. We went to
buy new batteries for my electric power chair. I am able to walk a few steps so
was UP on my feet "looking fine".  The man that was assembling a new power chair
commented he was amazed "I was still walking". He said in front of my husband
that he did not have one post polio syndrome customer that was still able to
walk. He asked me how old I was & when I told him he was really shocked. I read
EVERYTHiNG & regardless of even what my physician SON says, I know better than
to have been "toning up & exercising" at a gym. Just this morning I fell again
landing right on my replaced knee. My broken leg IS healing AND the hot dagger
shooting pain at the broken point has let up, so I am very thankful that sharp
pain has subsided. I feel weakness in that leg, but it IS my polio side leg
after all. So now, my husband can not be denial of what I have tried to tell
him. I am not giving up or giving in but I AM realistic.
I also have grandchildren, but my daughter disappeared with her son when he was
a baby. He would be 4 1/2 now. My son lives 2,000 miles away, so I am a grandma
in pictures only. Even that long ago, my daughter's baby son was way too much
for me to ever care for by myself. I would not even try to lift him or carry
him. I would sit on the sofa & have her bring him to me to hold. The couple of
times we had my baby grandson my husband was the one that lifted him & did what
I could not.  My grandchildren are ages are now 3,4 & 5.
I wanted to tell all the group that I did have a bone density test of both of my
legs, & I am very blessed that for my age my density is 100% excellent. So polio
did not affect the stability & quality of my bones. That is a huge relief & am
thankful to know that.
Hope more of us keep in touch.  Marcia

I wanted to tell you that I have an appt. with a highly recommended neurologist
in about six weeks. I wanted to ask the group a few things.
First I would like to know if any members of this group go a doctor that IS
treating their PPS? Second, could any of your give me some input about what to
ask this doctor, what tests help diagnosing & treating PPS.  What should I
expect with this contact? Does anyone know where there are actual specialists
that treat PPS anywhere in California?  Thanks for your attention to my post &
thank you for those that answer me.
Marcia

Hi to all my friends!  I hope you are all doing well, and I was so glad to hear
that Jim is closer to home and doing so much better.  My prayers have been with
you and Betty, Jim, and will continue as long as you need them.

I have been fighting a cold with a lot of coughing.  It takes all my "wind" and
energy, and I haven't felt much like chatting.  It is getting better, and I hope
to be back in chat in a few days.  It was 82 and sunshine today!  That makes me
feel much better.  More of the same tomorrow.

Hope to see you in chat soon!  I've missed you all.

Love and hugs,
Cheryl

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1. America is good.
2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life.
3. I must always try to be a more honest person than I was yesterday.
4. The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority,
not the government.
5. If you break the law you pay the penalty. Justice is blind and no
one is above it.
6. I have a right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, but
there is no guarantee of equal results.
7. I work hard for what I have and I will share it with who I want
to. Government cannot force me to be charitable.
8. It is not un-American for me to disagree with authority or to
share my personal opinion.
9. The government works for me. I do not answer to them, they answer
to me.
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     * Honesty
     * Reverence
     * Hope
     * Thrift
     * Humility
     * Charity
     * Sincerity
     * Moderation
     * Hard Work
     * Courage
     * Personal Responsibility
     * Friendship
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Marcia,
I can relate to what you are going through, as I had a horrible time when I was
first diagnosed with my PPS. Not only did my wife not understand, but many of
the people who were my friends at the time, also had a hard time understanding
what was happening to me.
I am not sure if these "friends" really understood my PPS, as I rarely hear from
most of them now that I am in a wheelchair,or perhaps they are uncomfortable
being around someone in a wheelchair.
However, as difficult as it was for me to adjust, it was even harder on my wife
Lisa.
She had a very difficult time with the lifestyle change after I got to the point
of having to give up on all the things we had done together for years.
We loved to go camping just about every weekend I could get the time off of
work, but as you can guess that just doesn't happen anymore.
We travelled a lot when I was capable of getting around with little problem, but
as you know, it is very difficult for us to do that now.
We are not the only one's to have to make drastic lifestyle changes, as it's
just as hard on our families to learn to cope with this.
I do not deny my wife the feelings she has in being tied down to me and the
sacrifices she also has to make. This just blows me away when I think of all she
has been through, and in fact is still going through.
We all need to remember that this PPS is not affecting just ourselves, but is
just as hard on our families and friends.
In my humble opinion, my wife is one of the strongest people I know, as she
accepts our new lifestyle, and understandably gets very frustrated being held
back because I am no longer able to do the things she loved so much.
I believe if there were medals of understanding and courage given out, most of
us would want them to be given to our spouses for being so helpful and
understanding in the challenges this PPS throws in front of us as roadblocks.
Most of the time, its my wife that helps me man-up and accept what I cannot
change.
In case I forget, I need to go uptown tomorrow and buy my wife an anniversary
present. We have been married 37 years on Wednesday, the 3rd, and I can say in
all honesty, the last 7 tears has been the hardest on her, but she continues to
hang in there in spite of all the problems we have worked our way through.
She is my hero.
Jack Babcock


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Dear Marcia,  You are a very important person and I know that having the stress
of a spouse that is not sensitive to your condition is totally frustrating to
you.  Having been thru a marriage where my spouse was negative to my well being,
I know the value of getting some counceling.  There are professionals that will
work with you and your spouse, or just you so you can cope with PPS and life in
a more possitive  way.  Not only is your physical health important, but so is
you mental health. I believe nearly all of us have had some professional
support.  Contact your doctor or the Public Health Nurse in your area.  There is
always another way of handling a situation, and seeking support is the first
step.  We are all behind you and reaching out will make your path filled with
fewer potholes.  Hugs and strength  Julie





> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mrcrew@...
> To: "No Reply" <notify-dg-postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [postpoliosyndrome] Digest Number 524
> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:47:50 +0000 (UTC)
>
>
>
>
> Thank you both for answering me. I would like to know how your
> families treat you?  My husband is in denial & feels I should not
> accept that the time very well may come I am in a wheel or power
> chair in a regular basis.  He will not read any of my post polio
> information, so he does not "think" with informed knowledge.  I
> belonged to a PPS Support group & almost every one I knew in the
> group ended up in a wheelchair of some sort. We have talked about
> moving & I realize I need to build with my coming & present needs
> considered.  He gets so upset & I don't NEED his lack of 
> believing, understanding or support.  It is hard enough to deal
> with daily let alone feel like I am the only one that feels like I
> do.
>
> Thanks, Marcia Crew
>
> From: postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com
> To: postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [postpoliosyndrome] Digest Number 524
> Date: 27 Feb 2009 00:19:00 -0000
>
>   North American Polio Survivors
>
>
>
> Messages In This Digest (2 Messages)
> ====================================
>
> 1a.
>        Re: Greetings to everyone! From: GCarr85446@...
>
> 1b.
>        Re: Greetings to everyone! From: sweetalgrl@...
>
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> 1a.
>
>
>        Re: Greetings to everyone!
>        --------------------------
>
>
>        Posted by: "GCarr85446@..." GCarr85446@... ianalex15
>
>        Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:37 am (PST)
>
>        Mr.Crew- I am older than you by some 14 years and confined to a
>        wheelchair.
>        Just passed my 26,510 day
>        with polio. Keeping track of it is good for me! Long ago gave up
>        remembering when I could swim a mile, fly a glider and other good
>        things. Recently
>        came by a line from Alfred Lord Tennyson that I'm going to have
>        inscribed on my
>        tombstone: TO STRIVE, TO SEEK, TO FIND, AND NOT TO YIELD! Hang in
>        there
>        friend
>        glad to chat with you anytime via e-mail.
>        Gerry Carroll
>        Polio 1935
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>
>
>        Re: Greetings to everyone!
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>
>
>        Posted by: "sweetalgrl@..." sweetalgrl@... sweetalgrl
>
>        Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:15 pm (PST)
>
>        Gerry, and Mr. Crew, and all....
>        *Hello, Gerry. I never thought about counting...wow! I got it when
>        I was
>        almost 8, and I'm 58( June of '58) , so you do the math for me,
>        lol.
>        *Mr. Crew...my knee is ready for full replacement, too, as the
>        ligament is
>        shot, from so many falls, bone to bone, and arthritis(in both) and
>        that was my
>        so-called 'good' leg. The dr is itching to replace it, yet, other
>        doctors
>        in the past, who dealt with polio patients, have always said full
>        recovery
>        after surgery of any kind on the legs involved cannot be expected.
>        And
>        complications were common. You have confirmed that. When I broke my
>        'bad' leg in 3
>        places, they opted not to do the surgery then and kept me in a full
>        leg cast
>        for over 4 months. Think I will keep trying those gel injections,
>        as painful
>        as they are(next step after steroid shots). I can still walk, these
>        days
>        it's slowly and carefully, with a cane and my knee brace, tho, I do
>        have a
>        regular wheelchair and an electric one that just sits, gathering
>        dust, as I have
>        no ramp to get it out! The cat loves it, though, lol. Anyway, I
>        digress.
>        This morning my neighbor came over to dig holes for my 4 new cedar
>        trees ,
>        as I can't keep my balance for that. What's harder for me than
>        losing the
>        ability to do what I once did is accepting help. I hear tell many
>        of us who
>        had polio have that same affliction. but, I'm working on it.
>        *Gerry...my motto, and what I tell my family will be on my
>        tombstone, is an
>        early to mid 90's song...it goes...."I get knocked down, but I get
>        up again,
>        no they're never gonna keep me down!" Seems the writer knew me and
>        my
>        penchant for eating the floor. It's wonderful we have a place to
>        share our
>        thoughts. Wish I could meet you all.
>        *Jack, I do hope things are beginning to look up for you and your
>        wife.
>        That new grand baby should help cheer you up. Good luck, dear.
>        Your 4ever friend,
>        ~Shar~(Sharon-seems to be a lot of them online so I use Shar to
>        make it less
>        complicated)
>
>
>        In a message dated 2/25/2009 1:37:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>        GCarr85446@... writes:
>
>        Mr.Crew- I am older than you by some 14 years and confined to a
>        wheelchair.
>        Just passed my 26,510 day
>        with polio. Keeping track of it is good for me! Long ago gave up
>        remembering when I could swim a mile, fly a glider and other good
>        things. Recently
>        came by a line from Alfred Lord Tennyson that I'm going to have
>        inscribed on my
>        tombstone: TO STRIVE, TO SEEK, TO FIND, AND NOT TO YIELD! Hang in
>        there
>        friend
>        glad to chat with you anytime via e-mail.
>        Gerry Carroll
>        Polio 1935
>
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I am checking in with the group as I read but rarely submit anything. I
am contacting the group basically because it seems my PPS is
progressing in more obvious ways & my lifestyle is prominately
affected. Primarily, the two issues for me are my balance, & my legs. I
have had one knee replaced & broken the other leg within the past two
years. At age 63, I depend on wheelchair/power-chair for any part of
functioning beyond my home interior.  Neither recovery from the knee
surgery or broken leg has given me stability that would make my ability
to walk for any distance & remain in pain. Stairs are out of the
question. Desires to travel are always in question as to if it is "do-
able" or "worth the effort", pain or discomfort.  It is hard to be
realistic sometimes when the spirit is willing but the body is weak. I
don't know about others, but I DO need more rest & dealing with pain
are regular issues for me.  There is no point in remembering what I
USED to be able to do, but it is discouraging to let things go that
once no thought need to be considered. I AM thankful for the abilities
I still am able to "take for granted" for now. It would help to hear
from others what your status is now, progressed from, & issues dealing
with at this time. I know that everyone is different but it still helps
to hear from each other.  I think the more we let each other know where
we are with our PPS the more it helps support each other. I would close
by encouraging you to read all you can to stay informed. It has been a
huge help to me to know the status & progress of treating PPS. Thanks
for your attention to my entry. MRC

It's been a long long long time since I've posted.  I hope everybody
is doing fine in this dreary February weather...I think I really do
hate the month of Feb.  (and also Jan.) it sure doesn't do my mood
any good.. and Jr. really thinks I am going through menopause!!!!
and the poor guy has to listen to it and be around me. With the cold
weather it just seems to make me in more pain than normal...and not
being able to get out of the house don't help matters either...and
with the way the economy is sure doesn't help matters either.  But I
know in a couple more months I'll be able to get outside an putter
around and I will be in a much better mood. And it seems that it is
harder to get around more than what it use to be like....and we both
know it is from my brace...and I just get so frustrated.....and I
know I told you the brace was working....and it is working...but not
like it should be and I just learn to put up with it...but after
awhile I guess your body finally gets to the point that you kind of
want to give up and not use as much energy it takes to walk in it...
But I know it will get better...it usually always does...and I didn't
mean for this to be a long letter....just hoping that you guys are
all doing good....and life is treating you GREAT!!!
Well I'll sign off
You all take care!!
Jane

My Dearest Jack, sorry that I have not been around for alot of the
group.   I just kinda wondered off for awhile.  Anyway. I don't
understand.  Why can you not get a wheelchair, I got mine from The
Assistance device Program from the government.  Its not the same as
where you applied because my husband and I make too much money, but
not enough to buy a wheel chair, all monies tied up in house repairs
same with my braces.   Talk to your doctor or go through the
parapalegic Association.  It also helps people out that are in wheel
chairs, and send you to the appropriate people.  I live in Ottawa and
I have never had problems like that.  What My  doctor perscribed I
got, from this Assistance device program.  Check into  it.  You should
not be going thought all of this.  I know the Ontario March of dimes
are like that but not the government  All you need is a perscription
from your doctor and Occupational Therapy gets involved to order you
the right kind of wheel chair, and they pay 70% of those medical
needs.  Anyway will try to stay in touch, emotions up and down for
other reasons though.  ANyway Jack check into it, don't gie up,
Ontario realy isn't that bad you just need the right connections  Talk
to you soon Darline in Ottawa I know that the Parapalegic also has an
office in Toronto, any problems I will call Stacey here in Ottawa, and
get the number if you still need it.
>

Here you go Mitch and will zip up some cookbooks graphics and send to you..

Jude

Please send recipies to jmc65@...
thanks  mitch

To all members of North American Polio Survivors, Iam going to put
together a cook book- with the help of all the members.
Please send me copies of your favorite recipies, please include your
name(first name is ok). Any subject will be great such as  breads,
cookies, meals, crockpot slow cook menues etc.
At the end of the cook book I would like to include your
name,email,address and or phone number.this up for your comments as to
how much Info we want to give out, your input is very important to me.
When compiled I would like to bind it and send each a copie.
  your helpwill be appreciated
  thanks
  mike and joan cook

could you post the pictures, under photos
thanks mike

--- In postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com, Jack Babcock
<jackay_boy@...> wrote:
>
> For those of you who doubted that she was a sweet as her Grandpa
here's the proof
>
> Jack Babcock
>
>
> --- On Thu, 12/25/08, Jason Campbell <heroyesterday@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Jason Campbell <heroyesterday@...>
> > Subject:
> > To: jackay_boy@...
> > Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 6:36 PM
> > _________________________________________________________________
>
Jack she is just a little doll!!!  You are right she is just as sweet
as can be.....it sure won't be hard to spoil her at all!!!  And I am
sure you guys won't have any problem at spoiling her....it is so much
fun to spoil them and then ship them back home.  I think that's what
grandparents are suppose to do!!!  Enjoy.
Jane & Jr.

For those of you who doubted that she was a sweet as her Grandpa here's the
proof

Jack Babcock


--- On Thu, 12/25/08, Jason Campbell <heroyesterday@...> wrote:

> From: Jason Campbell <heroyesterday@...>
> Subject:
> To: jackay_boy@...
> Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 6:36 PM
> _________________________________________________________________

----- Original Message -----

From: ted4753

To: postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 8:44 AM

Subject: [postpoliosyndrome] Re: Guess you can call me Grandpa now

--- In postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com, "Jack" <jackay_boy@...> wrote:
>
> Merry Christmas and all the best to you in the New Year
> I am sure we will chat before the New Years, but if I miss anyone I
> wish you a very Happy New Year.
> Grandpa Jack
>
Congratulations Jack - You are one proud Grandpa - it shows. Ted

--- In postpoliosyndrome@yahoogroups.com, "Jack" <jackay_boy@...> wrote:
>
> Merry Christmas and all the best to you in the New Year
> I am sure we will chat before the New Years, but if I miss anyone I
> wish you a very Happy New Year.
> Grandpa Jack
>
Congratulations Jack - You are one proud Grandpa - it shows.  Ted