Speaking of songs, I just heard Lucinda Williams sing this song about a child who was physically abused (It's bit like rap, which I usually can't stand, but I...
Daniel I know this group is intended for Partners, as defined as husband/wife/significant other - partner however, may I speak a bit off topic? This group...
Unfortunately there is no way to make a Survivor heal. You can't hand their trust back to them. You can't "fix" them either. They aren't broken. Changed? Yes....
just a thought.....wouldn't it be great if we all lived close by so we could form a group "survivors group" and meet and talk about our issues.... CINDY...
You know Cindy, I've thought that many times, and I think I once posted it here, during the years I've been dropping in. I even researched it with local CSA...
or maybe, daniel, we survivors should "move" on and not try to "fix" the our signaficant others and connect with one another....we sure would have "things in...
I started writing a gag singles ad in line with what you suggested (that partners could only relate to partners; trust me, it was really funny), but it got too...
I found a group here in Pennsylvania that is a survivors group that accepts partners once a month. I went for months and it was such a strange thing to sit in...
That's the thing... You can't (and shouldn't try) to "fix" each other. Neither the Secondary or the Survivor is "broken"... Yes people have been changed and...
getting a little buzzed tonight because of some shit that is going on but I read what you wrote and I just have to disagree. What is your definition of...
the eastiest thing is to just leave, they are a fucked up bunch and our lives are worth more than that....you cannot fix them....they need to get past that...
I just started to feel the way you do Cindy.I tried with all of my heart and soul.I lost .so did he.he just doesn't realize it yet.I must say ,the last 2...
Kim, you are so right, he lost in such a gigantic way. He had someone who was walking through hell with him and he did not take advantage of that amazing...
... Agreed He had someone who was walking through hell with him and he did not take ... I don't think "foolish" is an accurate word here. For one thing, it is...
Thank you Rob......you made my day...............youare strong....you are all so strong.I am going through alot of ups and downs.......but I am so focused on...
Cindy, I have been noticing a lot of anger on the board lately from everyone, and I think it is a good thing. You need to be angry enough to stand up for...
Leaving is often the easiest thing, but it isn't always the right thing to do (although we HAVE TO take care of ourselves too). You're half right with your...
Keith, I admire your fortitude. I agree with what you are saying. I respect your conviction. I wish you the best and pray that it works out. I got on here...
Simon - Thanks for replying. Your comments make sense. Admittedly I haven't been reading this listserv to often lately with all of the other things going on in...
Keith, I don't think there's a one of us here who wouldn't have preferred to stay with our survivors. In the majority of the cases, if you read back, they left...
Absolutely when I speak of walking through hell with your survivor I totally mean to go through the pain of healing with them. I would have stayed with my x,...
Good wisdom Brenda. Keith, sorry to hear about losing her in this sad way. I honestly believe it's for the better. I'm one of the ones that had to choose to...
I'm not saying that their behavior is healthy or positive - It isn't. But I prefer to look at this in terms of thinking patterns and patterns of behavior -...
My best suggestion is to keep looking. If you're looking for local off-line groups for Survivors or Secondaries, they unfortunately go in and out of existance...
Simon I feel for you.I really do.I am here for all of you.When I have a minute to finish my story I will.It i sINSANE......................REALLY INSANE.I ...
You are in my prayers always Kim ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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