From: "Integrated Health" <integratedh@y...>
Date: Wed Sep 24, 2003 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: Hatred Greed Selfishness Anger Fear Worry




--- In neotalk@yahoogroups.com, Victor <victor_1@r...> wrote:
> Integrated Health <integratedh@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In neotalk@yahoogroups.com, Victor <victor_1@r...> wrote:
> > Yeah! What he said!
> >
> > I think this was what I was getting at. Rational incorporation,
> > rather than abandonment. Just like the smart capitalists do
> > with *greed* (another emotion the mystic pushers have
> > encouraged folks to let go). And just like with *selfishness*
> > (the moral sanction against which is now on the wane it
> > looks like to me).
>
>
> Only a rational individual will know when it is appropriate to be
selfish as well as altruistic. Anything can be both helpful or
harmful. Without a proper understanding of selfishness, that too can
be applied in a self-destructive manner. Likewise, altruism, in the
proper rational context, can offer value.
>
> I agree, with the "selfish" part, but find it
> hard to see how a specific action can really
> be altruistic (the so-called altruist still gets
> at least some kind of benefit from the altruistic
> action, doesn't he?).


Yeah that's right. In the mytical world of Yoga, those Indian mystics
would teach altruism. Did you know magic originated from India. Those
mystics would trick people into seeing illusions.

Yet at the same time, it is proven that through yoga discipline you
can control your physical metabolism, even slow the heart rate down.
Ever watch that show "That's Incredible" or "Ripley's Believe it or
Not"? I've seen 'yogis' in their 70s who look like 50 year old
warriors. I think about 50 the body is really in prime condition.

This yogi would climb into a small glass box and remain locked inside
curled up while the heart and breathing rate slow. Think about the
mental control and power true yogis. They exhibit 'Neo-Tech' DTC
(Discipline Thought Control) of the physical body. So that is the
other *non*-mystical side of Yoga.

Do any of you space-travellers remember the Twilight Zone, not the
black-and-white but the color episodes from the 80's.

Man killer stuff...

See how I space? I've just finally cracked the code of mastering my
neothink mind and controlling my systems and tasks with precision.

Not because I am a lunatic, simply because I am processing extreme
amounts of ideas and conceptual information. It all integrates from
the wide-scope.

Back to *the point, altruism as it is defined is a very self-
destructive place to be.

It is NOT simply "giving" to others, although it could be and seen as
a positive with rational self-interest in mind.

It is giving while under a "spell", and depleting one's energy
reserves whatever that may be. While giving, the self is neglected
(sin), haha, that's the reeeal sin, and the survival of the _species_
is made primary, ABOVE the self, which is basically how mortality and
the Darwinian model of evolution work.

IH


> But overall I think you're
> right; that's why I see those who advocate cutting
> off any human emotion that could lead to proper
> action when used properly, as being either not
> fully informed or conditioning their tartets' wills
> to be more malleable, more compliant.
>
> e.g., "don't be greedy"
> "don't be selfish"--> "give my your $$$
>
> "love, don't hate"
> "don't get angry"--> "accept my manipulation
> and don't retaliate against
> me when you find out I've
> deceived you"
>
> "don't fear/'no fear'"-->"lower your your defenses so
> I can control you/keep you
> happy with my rule/kill
some
> of you off"
>
> "don't worry/be happy"-->"remain complacent/don't rise
> up/keep buying stuff from
me/
> don't think about the
future/don't
> need to change your
situation
> such that you don't need
me anymore