----- Original Message -----

From: getaway000

To: physical_immortality@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:45 AM

Subject: [physical_immortality] Re: New Member

Chris,

Good point: Each of our bodies are in decline
differentially.

Simple idea, and true.

Neuroscience supports your idea that the body
is responsive to the brain. As transmitters affect
the whole of the body's nervous system.

I think...

It is time that I look in to how (and why) transmitters
affect cellular behavior; I would like to know
the limits of mind-brain influence.

As I think about it, though, the aging metric does
appear arbitrary. Though I do not know how wise it
is to deny such a measurement.

Greg.

--- In physical_immortality@yahoogroups.com, <celife@m...> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> I'm not certain...I just go by what my inner voice and
> "sense" of things is...but here is what comes to me
> in regards to your email below.
>
> Regarding free radical damage and cellular mitosis,
> I don't think that traditional medicine can answer everything
> about aging.  It certainly can't explain chakras, kundlini
> energy, out of body experiences, etc.
>
> My sense is that the body follows the mind.  The cells
> recreate themselves healthy when the mind believes
> that they should be recreated in a healthy form.  If we
> see ourselves as in decay we will be.  The body functions
> follow our belief system.  We are quite flexible.  I think too
> that some people are just here to be physically immortal
> and it doesn't matter what they do...they just are.  It's a world
> of diversity for certain.
>
> Regarding going around the sun, I think that physical
> immortality does relate to disconnecting from the idea
> that everything changes at the same rate.  In other words,
> the idea that all bodies are in decline at the same pace
> is illusory, but a very popular illusion.
>
> Peace,
> Chris
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: getaway000
>   To: physical_immortality@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:44 AM
>   Subject: [physical_immortality] Re: New Member
>
>
>   Chris,
>
>   So what I must do first, then, is set free my illusions
that "free
>   radical damage" and "going around the sun/the gregorian calendar
>   metric" and "cellular mitosis" are signs of aging?
>
>   Greg.
>
>
>   --- In physical_immortality@yahoogroups.com, <celife@m...> wrote:
>   > Hi Greg,
>   >
>   > My sense is that part of the process may involve
>   > not "wanting" to have the experience (non-attachment).
>   >
>   > For what it's worth my sense is that if we pursue truth
>   > and integrity then other experiences that are beneficial
>   > arise from those pursuits.
>   >
>   > That being said, since I had what felt like a revelation nearly
>   > 6 years ago
>   > (about the illusory nature of the idea that time "ages us")
>   > I don't feel like I look older.  In terms of my skin, my eyes,
>   > general characteristic associated with aging, it doesn't
>   > seem like I'm getting older.  Once I had an experience
>   > of fear with this while looking in the mirror...but it was a
>   > fear of what society would say in reaction to someone
>   > not aging...and I think I was able to get over that after
>   > feeling it...accepting that many others are slowing or
>   > stopping or even reversing the aging process.
>   >
>   > I think that sometimes I look more healthy than others,
>   > but it's no longer an ongoing process of decline.  Now
>   > it seems that my body is reflecting my mind, and sometimes
>   > I look more radiant than others, depending on how clear and
>   > in-balance I am feeling.
>   >
>   > I'm turning 36 in about a month and the image on my
>   > home page http://ropi.net/c seems to look like pics of
>   > me 6 years ago.
>   >
>   > Peace,
>   > Chris
>   >
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: getaway000
>   >   To: physical_immortality@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:49 AM
>   >   Subject: [physical_immortality] Re: New Member
>   >
>   >
>   >   --- In physical_immortality@yahoogroups.com, "Chris"
>   <celife@m...>
>   >   wrote:
>   >
>   >   > Hi,
>   >   >
>   >   > My name is Chris (pen name Mystic Life).
>   >   >
>   >   > I just watched "Tuck Everlasting" and it inspired me to
start
>   a
>   >   Yahoo
>   >   > Group on physical immortality...then I found that this one
>   already
>   >   > exists and has a large membership.
>   >   >
>   >   > I have written Reflections on Physical Immortality
>   (www.ropi.net)
>   >   and
>   >   > also started Immortality Magazine (www.ropi.net/im)
>   >   >
>   >   > I am also interested in polyamory (www.ropi.net/aul)
>   especially in
>   >   > the context of sustainable connections with other
immortals.
>   >   >
>   >   > I have enjoyed the work of Leonard Orr and though I'm
>   currently
>   >   > uncertain about what techniques are necessary if any, I
feel
>   as
>   >   > though I've effectively stopped aging and would like to
>   dialogue
>   >   with
>   >   > other like-minded individuals.
>   >   >
>   >   > Peace,
>   >   > Chris
>   >
>   >   Hi,
>   >
>   >   Leonard Orr's works on stopping the "death habit" have
inspired
>   >   me to support physical immortality.
>   >
>   >   Chris, can you describe for me your feeling as though you
have
>   >   stopped aging?
>   >
>   >   I would like to feel similar.
>   >
>   >   Greg.
>   >
>   >
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