Wetzler has worked with lots of women who aren't able to disengage from P/A men,
so he knows nobody will buy a book titled "Leave the P/A PITA already!" It's
all packaged to be picked up and read by women who can't imagine leaving. BUT
in every section, there are gentle nudges toward evaluating honestly whether the
P/A can truly give you what you need to be happy.
Have you read Mira Kirshenbaum's _Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay_?
Though that's no cure-all - I bought it before I even married Bozo, and used it
to convince myself to stay with him. Ugh.
Hi all, I'm new to the group and I'm so excited (yet sad that it has to be because of PA) to find others who live this pain. I'm reading "Living with the...
I've not found any solutions Angie. I don't know that there are any. I thought the book was good as far as explaining the PA personality but not in what to...
Carla, Are you still w/ your H? Or is your situation workplace related? I've got a theory on the author's intent, but don't want to scare off newbies ... M....
Still with. What is your theory? I guess I've adopted some coping mechanisms. Sometimes they work sometimes not. ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
OK, at the risk of scaring off newbies ... Wetzler has worked with lots of women who aren't able to disengage from P/A men, so he knows nobody will buy a book...
Hi Angie, I read the book only after having gone CMC (clean minimum contact) w/ my passive/covert-aggressive not-soon-enough-to-be-XH. For me, the book served...
Wow, I want to cry after reading all these posts. It seems there are so many of you that are getting out of/have gotten out of relationships with your PA...
Honestly, I don't think anyone with any kind of clearly addictive behavior 'gets it' until they hit bottom. My H knows he deals with this and his other issues...
Well Angie, I felt the same way you do and was with my PA for 5 years. As you can see, some people have been able to hang in there longer. I guess a lot of it...
I'm still in my relationship with my PA H, although I wouldn't say we're working towards a better relationship. For several years I did everything I knew to...
My H is also a porn addict, but I said, me or porn, and meant it. He believed me and is in recovery. Sober for over a year. Because he's been in recovery, he...
For me also, Any from of communications is some kind of threat, so I stopped. Nothing will go through, even if tried in the most nice ways. We have a very...
So sorry, Kim. X had the same thing re feeling threatened by everything. We discussed that it was post-trauma stuff, but he still held me responsible. He...
Hi- The problem with Passive Aggressives is that IT is all about themselves. They will blame "you" and everyone else. They are stuck in immaturity. They are...
... Wow. Yep. Toward the end, I was suicidal. Not depressed, per se, but I could not imagine a life worth living w/ him in it, and I had no idea how to get...
In a message dated 7/9/2008 4:09:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mollybme@... writes: All the clear calm talk I tried worked short-term, but just p!$$ed...
First off, my H has been reading the book Overcoming Passive Aggression, knows he's PA, and still does a to of PA things. After living his whole life honing...
... Is this by Wetzler as well? I'm wondering if I'm p/a toward myself. Self-defeating in any case. Sounds like you've found a lot that works. Bozo was a...
You are cracking me up. My dad WAS Bozo! (for real) Jen _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one...
Hi Angie, Welcome to the Group! I have gotten some great support here. Hope it helps you too. :) Unfortunately, things didn't work out with my PA guy because...
Hi Angie I am new myself and don't remember posting here before. My DH is currently "in remission", he is so much improved that he only reverts when things ...
I think only actions communicate with a PA. I never got anywhere with talk. Counselling helped, but it was "over the years" and there were no obvious ...