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RE: [Passive Aggressive Support] living with the passive aggressive man


First off, my H has been reading the book Overcoming Passive Aggression, knows
he's PA, and still does a to of PA things. After living his whole life honing
these survival instinctive behaviors, it's slow going trying to change. PA
behaviors do validate the victim stance he's so familiar with, they do 'excuse'
him, etc.
I've set some boundaries that I put in place even before I knew he was PA--
I will not tolerate verbal abuse, name-calling, profanity, yelling. I walk away,
after asking him to cool it. He has improved greatly.
I will not tolerate baiting. He still doesn't know he's doing it. I say: you're
trying to bait me and I'm not going there. At the time I say it, he says: I'm
not baiting you. He doesn't see it. I don't convince him he is. I just don't
reply. I notice that afterwards, when he has time to process (a requirement for
PA's because in the 'heat of battle' they will argue til you're dead) he doesn't
bait as often, so I know my comments are influencing him.
Living with a PA is difficult, but it helps to #1 not take anything personally,
#2 address the issue, even if he doesn't believe you, #3 have strong boundaries,
#4 have compassion. He really doesn't get that this is sick. That doesn't mean
you tolerate crap, but he isn't totally trying to hurt you, he just hurts all
the time and is 'sharing it.' #5 don't let the crazymaking drive you crazy--
aka: get a life. Get hobbies, money of your own, a good exercise program, eat
right, get some friends. Enjoy life.
Hope this helps.
Jen

To: passiveaggressivesupport@yahoogroups.com
From: angeleyes2blue@...
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:20:28 +0000
Subject: [Passive Aggressive Support] living with the passive aggressive man




















Hi all,

I'm new to the group and I'm so excited (yet sad that it has to be

because of PA) to find others who live this pain. I'm reading "Living

with the Passive Aggressive Man" and have earmarked half of the pages

so far. I feel I could have written every story myself! I'm working

on finding ways to communicate effectively with my PA husband and

learning how to be more open myself. Have any of you found sure-fire

ways to communicate with PA significant others?
























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Hi all, I'm new to the group and I'm so excited (yet sad that it has to be because of PA) to find others who live this pain. I'm reading "Living with the...
angie.rich
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Jul 9, 2008
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I've not found any solutions Angie. I don't know that there are any. I thought the book was good as far as explaining the PA personality but not in what to...
Carla
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Jul 9, 2008
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Carla, Are you still w/ your H? Or is your situation workplace related? I've got a theory on the author's intent, but don't want to scare off newbies ... M....
M.
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Jul 9, 2008
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Still with. What is your theory? I guess I've adopted some coping mechanisms. Sometimes they work sometimes not. ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
Carla
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Jul 9, 2008
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OK, at the risk of scaring off newbies ... Wetzler has worked with lots of women who aren't able to disengage from P/A men, so he knows nobody will buy a book...
M.
m_in_pain
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Jul 9, 2008
8:52 pm

Hi Angie, I read the book only after having gone CMC (clean minimum contact) w/ my passive/covert-aggressive not-soon-enough-to-be-XH. For me, the book served...
M.
m_in_pain
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Jul 9, 2008
2:08 pm

Wow, I want to cry after reading all these posts. It seems there are so many of you that are getting out of/have gotten out of relationships with your PA...
angie.rich
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Jul 10, 2008
4:54 am

Honestly, I don't think anyone with any kind of clearly addictive behavior 'gets it' until they hit bottom. My H knows he deals with this and his other issues...
Jennifer Leigh
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Jul 10, 2008
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Well Angie, I felt the same way you do and was with my PA for 5 years. As you can see, some people have been able to hang in there longer. I guess a lot of it...
filmmash
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Jul 10, 2008
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I'm still in my relationship with my PA H, although I wouldn't say we're working towards a better relationship. For several years I did everything I knew to...
Lisa Landerdahl
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Jul 10, 2008
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My H is also a porn addict, but I said, me or porn, and meant it. He believed me and is in recovery. Sober for over a year. Because he's been in recovery, he...
Jennifer Leigh
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For me also, Any from of communications is some kind of threat, so I stopped. Nothing will go through, even if tried in the most nice ways. We have a very...
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Jul 9, 2008
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So sorry, Kim. X had the same thing re feeling threatened by everything. We discussed that it was post-trauma stuff, but he still held me responsible. He...
M.
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Jul 9, 2008
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Doesn't sound awkward at all to me and I bet not to anyone who deals with a PA. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Carla
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Jul 9, 2008
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Hi- The problem with Passive Aggressives is that IT is all about themselves. They will blame "you" and everyone else. They are stuck in immaturity. They are...
M Hicks Raithel
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Jul 9, 2008
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... Wow. Yep. Toward the end, I was suicidal. Not depressed, per se, but I could not imagine a life worth living w/ him in it, and I had no idea how to get...
M.
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In a message dated 7/9/2008 4:09:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mollybme@... writes: All the clear calm talk I tried worked short-term, but just p!$$ed...
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First off, my H has been reading the book Overcoming Passive Aggression, knows he's PA, and still does a to of PA things. After living his whole life honing...
Jennifer Leigh
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Jul 9, 2008
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... Is this by Wetzler as well? I'm wondering if I'm p/a toward myself. Self-defeating in any case. Sounds like you've found a lot that works. Bozo was a...
M.
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Jul 9, 2008
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You are cracking me up. My dad WAS Bozo! (for real) Jen _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one...
Jennifer Leigh
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Jul 10, 2008
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Hi Angie, Welcome to the Group! I have gotten some great support here. Hope it helps you too. :) Unfortunately, things didn't work out with my PA guy because...
filmmash
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Jul 9, 2008
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Hi Angie I am new myself and don't remember posting here before. My DH is currently "in remission", he is so much improved that he only reverts when things ...
possum
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Jul 9, 2008
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I agree with this, you can't do what's needed unless you have a life for yourself and take care of yourself ... From: "Jennifer Leigh"...
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I think only actions communicate with a PA. I never got anywhere with talk. Counselling helped, but it was "over the years" and there were no obvious ...
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