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@Kim / Re: [Passive Aggressive Support] living with the passive aggressive man

So sorry, Kim.

X had the same thing re feeling threatened by everything. We discussed that it
was post-trauma stuff, but he still held me responsible. He admitted he was
afraid that developing new ways of dealing w/ his feelings would mean he'd have
to let go of his present tools, and might end up worse off.


When I was still trying the fair, friendly, civil divorce route, I insisted we
go to a mediator b/c he'd sabotaged attempts to go through the paperwork on our
own. At the second session, he was dragging his feet again so much that she
asked if he wanted to be together with me. "WHAT?! With HER? Like LIVING
together, in one aPARTment? No WAY!" The mediator accepted this and didn't
address the foot-dragging.

In the car afterward, I said, "You know, I accept you don't want to be with me,
so that's not why I'm asking this. But what would a woman need to be like so
that you WOULD want to build a life with her?"

He immediately said, "So that I'd never have a bad feeling." (We weren't
speaking English and my translation is too direct so it sounds awkward.)

Hello? The guy walks around feeling pretty bad about himself at a very deep
level ALL the time. Anything ANYone says or does is "grounds" for him to "feel
bad about himself."


I've noticed that I'm treating myself the way he used to treat me, so that's
something I have to look at.

Would you be willing to share a bit about how you manage going about your life,
doing things that are good for you? Clearly I've got other issues, but the P/A
thing is a mind-twister on its own.

M.



--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Equiskr@... <Equiskr@...> wrote:
> For me also, Any from of communications is some kind of
> threat, so I
> stopped. Nothing will go through, even if tried in the
> most nice ways.








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Hi all, I'm new to the group and I'm so excited (yet sad that it has to be because of PA) to find others who live this pain. I'm reading "Living with the...
angie.rich
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Jul 9, 2008
7:20 am

I've not found any solutions Angie. I don't know that there are any. I thought the book was good as far as explaining the PA personality but not in what to...
Carla
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Jul 9, 2008
10:46 am

Carla, Are you still w/ your H? Or is your situation workplace related? I've got a theory on the author's intent, but don't want to scare off newbies ... M....
M.
m_in_pain
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Jul 9, 2008
2:09 pm

Still with. What is your theory? I guess I've adopted some coping mechanisms. Sometimes they work sometimes not. ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
Carla
sewitseams2me
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Jul 9, 2008
4:35 pm

OK, at the risk of scaring off newbies ... Wetzler has worked with lots of women who aren't able to disengage from P/A men, so he knows nobody will buy a book...
M.
m_in_pain
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Jul 9, 2008
8:52 pm

Hi Angie, I read the book only after having gone CMC (clean minimum contact) w/ my passive/covert-aggressive not-soon-enough-to-be-XH. For me, the book served...
M.
m_in_pain
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Jul 9, 2008
2:08 pm

Wow, I want to cry after reading all these posts. It seems there are so many of you that are getting out of/have gotten out of relationships with your PA...
angie.rich
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Jul 10, 2008
4:54 am

Honestly, I don't think anyone with any kind of clearly addictive behavior 'gets it' until they hit bottom. My H knows he deals with this and his other issues...
Jennifer Leigh
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Jul 10, 2008
5:23 am

Well Angie, I felt the same way you do and was with my PA for 5 years. As you can see, some people have been able to hang in there longer. I guess a lot of it...
filmmash
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Jul 10, 2008
8:17 am

I'm still in my relationship with my PA H, although I wouldn't say we're working towards a better relationship. For several years I did everything I knew to...
Lisa Landerdahl
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Jul 10, 2008
3:59 pm

My H is also a porn addict, but I said, me or porn, and meant it. He believed me and is in recovery. Sober for over a year. Because he's been in recovery, he...
Jennifer Leigh
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Jul 10, 2008
6:18 pm

For me also, Any from of communications is some kind of threat, so I stopped. Nothing will go through, even if tried in the most nice ways. We have a very...
Equiskr@...
equiskr
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Jul 9, 2008
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So sorry, Kim. X had the same thing re feeling threatened by everything. We discussed that it was post-trauma stuff, but he still held me responsible. He...
M.
m_in_pain
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Jul 9, 2008
3:48 pm

Doesn't sound awkward at all to me and I bet not to anyone who deals with a PA. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Carla
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Jul 9, 2008
4:47 pm

Hi- The problem with Passive Aggressives is that IT is all about themselves. They will blame "you" and everyone else. They are stuck in immaturity. They are...
M Hicks Raithel
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Jul 9, 2008
5:12 pm

... Wow. Yep. Toward the end, I was suicidal. Not depressed, per se, but I could not imagine a life worth living w/ him in it, and I had no idea how to get...
M.
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Jul 9, 2008
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In a message dated 7/9/2008 4:09:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mollybme@... writes: All the clear calm talk I tried worked short-term, but just p!$$ed...
Equiskr@...
equiskr
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Jul 9, 2008
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First off, my H has been reading the book Overcoming Passive Aggression, knows he's PA, and still does a to of PA things. After living his whole life honing...
Jennifer Leigh
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Jul 9, 2008
6:24 pm

... Is this by Wetzler as well? I'm wondering if I'm p/a toward myself. Self-defeating in any case. Sounds like you've found a lot that works. Bozo was a...
M.
m_in_pain
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Jul 9, 2008
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You are cracking me up. My dad WAS Bozo! (for real) Jen _________________________________________________________________ Making the world a better place one...
Jennifer Leigh
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Jul 10, 2008
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Hi Angie, Welcome to the Group! I have gotten some great support here. Hope it helps you too. :) Unfortunately, things didn't work out with my PA guy because...
filmmash
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Jul 9, 2008
9:21 pm

Hi Angie I am new myself and don't remember posting here before. My DH is currently "in remission", he is so much improved that he only reverts when things ...
possum
lesleyann1963
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Jul 9, 2008
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I agree with this, you can't do what's needed unless you have a life for yourself and take care of yourself ... From: "Jennifer Leigh"...
possum
lesleyann1963
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Jul 9, 2008
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I think only actions communicate with a PA. I never got anywhere with talk. Counselling helped, but it was "over the years" and there were no obvious ...
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