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RE: [Passive Aggressive Support] Re: Any help will be great!!


Lindsay--
What I see here is that since you are super willing and desiring to stay w/ him,
he can pretty much do whatever he wants. I know you love him, but if you don't
love yourself enough to get boundaries, you will always end up being the
unimportant one in this relationship. PA people are remarkably selfish and
controlling, and you will be dumped on when you're not being controlled.
However, if you come up with some behaviors you don't want to tolerate anymore,
such as, I won't tolerate being yelled at (for instance) and a consequence (when
I'm yelled at, I leave the room/house/phone call and take 10 minutes for myself)
you will show him and yourself that you care enough to only tolerate kindness,
caring, and appropriate treatment. Recognize that as you get boundaries and
start administering consequences, your bf will NOT like it and will do any and
everything to get you to cut it out, accuse you of being selfish, controlling,
he will perhaps be very mean, or ignore you, whatever. He doesn't like his plans
to be messed with.
But you have 2 choices-- stay with him like things are, and be okay with it
(which is possible if you can really just not let it bug you) or take the risk
of setting limits in the hope that you will improve things. You chance losing
him, and if you're not willing to take that chance, then you'd better come up w/
some strategies on how to deal w/ him just like he is (and find other people to
spend the holidays with, year after year after year, and be totally fine with
this.)
Good luck!
Jen


To: passiveaggressivesupport@yahoogroups.com
From: monicaashton@...
Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 07:12:39 +0000
Subject: [Passive Aggressive Support] Re: Any help will be great!!




















Hi Lindsay,



Welcome! Sounds like you are very observant. Congrats on coming to

terms with the situation and trying to figure out a way to make it

work for you, whatever the outcome.



I can tell you that once I figured out what the problem was (I

started to research passive aggressive personality disorder), I was

able to detach from it since I knew why he did some of the things he

did, and that made it a lot easier to deal with. I didn't

personalize it as much. If anything, I feel sorry for the way my guy

was brought up, and I try to empathize, but not at my own expense.



I ended up not being able to live with my boyfriend (it stressed me

out too much), but we still see each other on weekends and holidays

now. Once I started to pull away for my own good, ironically, it

seemed to help our situation. He didn't want to lose me, and me

leaving made it pretty obvious to him that it might end. It actually

forced the issue. As a result, he's now in therapy, has been

reading, "Living with the Passive Aggressive Male," and we're in

couples' counseling, actually talking about all of this. He has been

working on his issues, slowly, and I'm able to continue to live my

life without feeling so stressed out all the time.



Hope this gives you some hope as we enter the New Year. :)



Hang in there,

Monica



--- In passiveaggressivesupport@yahoogroups.com, Lindsay Nielson

<lindsly05@...> wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> My name is Lindsay and I am in desperate need for suggestions and

solutions. It's more than obvious that the boyfriend I have had for 2

years is struggling with Passive aggression and It has taken a toll

on me emotionally.. I am always confused by his behavior and feel

that he constantly causes fights before holidays so he can go and do

his own thing. He then comes back and acts like nothing ever

happened and I usually give in because I desire so deeply to have a

relationship with him.. He comes from a very disturbing background..

Parents put him in the middle of a divorce and he has anger issues

with his mom. He avoids showing any affection and goes out of his

way to make me feel unloved by calling me names and picking on me. I

believe, I too have a problem with co-dependency and really need some

encouragement to get out of this and stay strong.. Any suggestions

will be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Lindsay

>

>

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Hi Lindsay, Welcome! Sounds like you are very observant. Congrats on coming to terms with the situation and trying to figure out a way to make it work for...
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_Passive-Aggressive HOWandWhy_ (http://passiveaggressive.homestead.com/howandwhy.html) Lindsay.....The above link talks about the people on the other end of a...
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Hi guys, Good stuff on here today. Funny, too, because my guy just pulled a fast p/a thing on me. So glad I have a forum here to vent safely. :) I am now...
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Monica... You are doing great, when I try and find the strength to take a stand for myself and leave, I get so much anxiety I cannot function... He has ...
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Hey Kim, Sounds like you're doing the best you can. It took me a real emergency at the house to make me leave. My guy lives his life in such chaos. Last year,...
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Jen, I wanted to talk about boundaries. When I have tried to walk away, drive away or just not talk about it, he follows me, takes my keys, blocks doors...
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Well, getting to the root of the problem of his is something you can't control. You can get to the root of your own problem, though. I think it sounds scary...
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Hi and thank you for your replies.. No, he is not physically abusive but I am uncertain if he couldn't be in the future. He's mentioned plenty of times that...
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Lindsay-- Passive aggressive people want two things to come from behaving this way: CONTROL and A LACK OF INTIMACY. It sounds to me that your bf has succeeded...
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Jen, Thank your for your insight.. I have been through a lot today.. He has shut me out by yelling and hanging up the phone on me again and so it made me...
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Lindsay--There are many men who are sex addicts who are not PA. There are many men who are SA who are not PA, though I think the numbers on that one are...
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Monica, did he ever make it there for New Year? And if he did, how was the rest of the night? The drain was clogged today and he tried to fix it because...
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Monica, They do tend to do dangerous acts in their lives. My guy drives around in a car in my name and refuses to get his drivers license reinstated. I ...
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WOW, This is making me realize more and more how similar all of our situations are. I too trusted my PA boyfriend and decided to buy a townhome last April....
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Lindsay, I share and feel you fear. Every time I think of breaking up with him I get anxiety to the point where I cannot function....I feel very trapped....
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Lindsay-- If he's cheating on you, what are you going to do? Has he done this before? Hmmm. You haven't done anything 'to deserve this' but if you keep...
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Lindsay, I too pray for strength and what is best for my life...I will add you in to my prayers. I am so sorry you are terrified, I understand...hang in, do a...
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