I agree. There is a lot of time and effort going in to making
the elogbook work for Paeds Surgery, so please use the elogbook and sync with
ISCP. No-one will be making specialty-specific adjustments to the ISCP logbook,
and the fee for the e-logbook will be included in BAPS associate membership, so
that is the one we should all be using.
Best wishes,
Clare Rees
Miss C Rees MBChB MRCS
SpR in Paediatric Surgery
From: paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of woodieonemillion
Sent: 22 July 2009 11:27
To: paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [paediatricsurgerytrainees] Re: SAC Meeting regarding ISCP
Curriculum
Dear all
Need to check something.....BAPS recommended we all use the elogbook. When set
up correctly this automatically synchronises with the ISCP logbook so no
problems with ARCP's. Should we not all sing from the same hymn sheet and work
on getting one logbook great rather than 2 being average at best?
Thanks
Sarah Wood
--- In paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com,
Paul Jackson <PBJACKSON@...> wrote:
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> Hi Charlie,
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> Missing u already!
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> RE ISCP website:
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> (1) Could we please have the learning objectives/levels automatically come
up from the syllabus when an assessment form is filled.
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> (2) The jump in competencies from having seen or know about to do or at
consultant level is quite steep - maybe some middle ground is needed especially
with the PBA's.
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> (3) In the drop down menu - could we please have thoracoscopic.
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> (4) Could we have a free text section in the log book both parties can
see.
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> (5) If some one includes me in their logbook - before it automatically
updates mine could it come up for approval/acceptance rather than slotting in.
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> (6) Could we have some consensus/amalgamation on Paediatric Surgery /
Adult General Surgery Paediatrics topics.
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> (7) Could it automatically fill male in surgery for the undescended
testis/surgery for the acute scrotum. (May provide some debate.)
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> (8) Could we improve the Neonatal section to allow more accurate recording
by replacing titles of Laparotomy or Anastomosis or stoma formation – with
Laparotomy then a dropdown box to add sub headings?
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> (9) Could we push for all Consultant surgeons to be registered on the
site.
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> (10) Regarding MM could anyone seeing MM add it to the Log book section as
a separate form that would then be forwarded to the operative surgeon and
following acceptance amalgamated with their log.
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> (11) Could we have a comparison page for operative experience showing the
national average, maximum and minimum number of procedures performed by level
like the e-logbook.
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> To end on a positive note the new assessment forms that have been added
and adapted with feed back are great. This site provides a fantastic tool to
plan training and service provision for the future not to mention national
audit.
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> BW
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> Paul
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> (Now day 4 without Iron Bru.)
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> To: paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com
> From: charleskeys@...
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:52:24 +0000
> Subject: [paediatricsurgerytrainees] SAC Meeting regarding ISCP Curriculum
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> Dear All
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> I will be attending an SAC meeting on 23rd July in Edinburgh which is
about the ISCP curriculum for Paediatric Surgery.
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> As you are probably aware PMETB have asked all 9 surgical specialities to
create and finalise thier curriculae by September 2009. These curriculae are
the ISCP syllabuses that our training is based on, and they are created by the
SAC. The paediatric surgical curriculum can be found at:
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> http://www.iscp.ac.uk/syllabus/overview.aspx?Spec=PS
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> The curriculum is pretty exhaustive but is still a work in progress. The
purpose of the SAC meeting next week is to finalise the document and discuss
it's implementation.
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> I need to know what the trainee body view is on the curriculum.
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> Specifically I welcome your opinions on 3 things:
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> 1. The content of the curriculum. Good and bad points. How it is set out,
is it too much or any ommissions.
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> 2. The ISCP website. Is it easy to use or not. Any comments on how it
could be improved.
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> 3. Work Based Assessments. Comments on the number of them that need to be
completed, how easy they are to use, the range of operations/procedures
available for assessment etc. and how useful as a learning tool you find them.
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> This is your chance to influence the curriculum, how the ISCP website is
used as a teaching tool and how you are assessed. You can tell me your views
through this forum or e-mail me directly.
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> Let me know
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> Charlie
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