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Re: SAC Meeting regarding ISCP Curriculum

Dear all
Need to check something.....BAPS recommended we all use the elogbook. When set
up correctly this automatically synchronises with the ISCP logbook so no
problems with ARCP's. Should we not all sing from the same hymn sheet and work
on getting one logbook great rather than 2 being average at best?
Thanks
Sarah Wood



--- In paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com, Paul Jackson <PBJACKSON@...>
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> Hi Charlie,
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> Missing u already!
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> RE ISCP website:
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> (1) Could we please have the learning objectives/levels automatically come up
from the syllabus when an assessment form is filled.
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> (2) The jump in competencies from having seen or know about to do or at
consultant level is quite steep - maybe some middle ground is needed especially
with the PBA's.
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> (3) In the drop down menu - could we please have thoracoscopic.
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> (4) Could we have a free text section in the log book both parties can see.
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> (5) If some one includes me in their logbook - before it automatically updates
mine could it come up for approval/acceptance rather than slotting in.
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> (6) Could we have some consensus/amalgamation on Paediatric Surgery / Adult
General Surgery Paediatrics topics.
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> (7) Could it automatically fill male in surgery for the undescended
testis/surgery for the acute scrotum. (May provide some debate.)
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> (8) Could we improve the Neonatal section to allow more accurate recording by
replacing titles of Laparotomy or Anastomosis or stoma formation – with
Laparotomy then a dropdown box to add sub headings?
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> (9) Could we push for all Consultant surgeons to be registered on the site.
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> (10) Regarding MM could anyone seeing MM add it to the Log book section as a
separate form that would then be forwarded to the operative surgeon and
following acceptance amalgamated with their log.
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> (11) Could we have a comparison page for operative experience showing the
national average, maximum and minimum number of procedures performed by level
like the e-logbook.
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> To end on a positive note the new assessment forms that have been added and
adapted with feed back are great. This site provides a fantastic tool to plan
training and service provision for the future not to mention national audit.
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> BW
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> Paul
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> (Now day 4 without Iron Bru.)
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> To: paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com
> From: charleskeys@...
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:52:24 +0000
> Subject: [paediatricsurgerytrainees] SAC Meeting regarding ISCP Curriculum
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> Dear All
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> I will be attending an SAC meeting on 23rd July in Edinburgh which is about
the ISCP curriculum for Paediatric Surgery.
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> As you are probably aware PMETB have asked all 9 surgical specialities to
create and finalise thier curriculae by September 2009. These curriculae are the
ISCP syllabuses that our training is based on, and they are created by the SAC.
The paediatric surgical curriculum can be found at:
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> http://www.iscp.ac.uk/syllabus/overview.aspx?Spec=PS
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> The curriculum is pretty exhaustive but is still a work in progress. The
purpose of the SAC meeting next week is to finalise the document and discuss
it's implementation.
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> I need to know what the trainee body view is on the curriculum.
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> Specifically I welcome your opinions on 3 things:
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> 1. The content of the curriculum. Good and bad points. How it is set out, is
it too much or any ommissions.
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> 2. The ISCP website. Is it easy to use or not. Any comments on how it could be
improved.
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> 3. Work Based Assessments. Comments on the number of them that need to be
completed, how easy they are to use, the range of operations/procedures
available for assessment etc. and how useful as a learning tool you find them.
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> This is your chance to influence the curriculum, how the ISCP website is used
as a teaching tool and how you are assessed. You can tell me your views through
this forum or e-mail me directly.
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> Let me know
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> Charlie
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Dear All I will be attending an SAC meeting on 23rd July in Edinburgh which is about the ISCP curriculum for Paediatric Surgery. As you are probably aware...
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Hi Charlie, Missing u already! RE ISCP website: (1) Could we please have the learning objectives/levels automatically come up from the syllabus when an...
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Dear all Need to check something.....BAPS recommended we all use the elogbook. When set up correctly this automatically synchronises with the ISCP logbook so...
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Jul 22, 2009
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I agree. There is a lot of time and effort going in to making the elogbook work for Paeds Surgery, so please use the elogbook and sync with ISCP. No-one will...
Clare Rees
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Jul 22, 2009
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Dear All, I agree that convergence is the way forward. Logically, it would seem that if the eLogbook has a better format it is adopted by ISCP - logbooks...
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Jul 22, 2009
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The ISCP logbook is not being developed for paediatric surgery, the elogbook is. There is only one logbook recommended and approved by the SAC in paed surg,...
Iain Yardley
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Jul 23, 2009
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Just for further interest. We discussed the 2 logbooks at the elogbook meeting I attended a year ago. It appears that as ISCP is run by the government it could...
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Hi Sarah, In the old days our offical written college logbooks were covered under hospital and colllege licence as they were not anonomised (Traceable via unit...
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Jul 29, 2009
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The elogbook owners guarantee that they will not release individual's data unless obliged to do so by court order. Aggregated data is available for comparisons...
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