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Re: Who will get CCT and who will get CCST


Dear Liam

I think we need to send a letter representing the Paediatric
surgical trainees to JHCT or RCS asking them to clarify this non
sense.
As Jes mentioned in an earlier email that at the time of our
interviews we were contracted for a trainning scheme that will lead
to a CCST award. They can't change that overnight! otherwise an
early legal action from our side is the best thing to do.
The other point is where are our BAPS representatives
(i.e.Consultants) from all this dilemma, do paediatric surgeons have
a say? Are they happy with adult Urologists dictating our future
careers?
I think our seniors need to have a clear statement about that as
well.

Best wishes

Hany




--- In paediatricsurgerytrainees@yahoogroups.com, "liamslmcc"
<liam.mccarthy@b...> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have done some digging to try and find out who will get a CCST
and
> who will get a CCT: the answer dependes on when PMETB takes over
> responsibility for our training.
>
> On the STA (Specilaist Training Authority)website (latest news) it
> says that the STA will continue to award CCSTs until PMETB takes
over
> in 2005 (? when in 2005). Furthermore PMETB will award a CCT
> (certificate of completion of training) as this is the term used
in
> the 2003 act which set up this body (The General Medical Practice
and
> Specialist Medical Education, Training and Qualifications Order
> 2003). PMETB won't award a CCST because it cannot.
>
> Does this matter?
>
> If you are a Physician almost certainly not. The RCP does not
appear
> to be interested in a post CCT qualification. CCT for them will be
a
> CCST.
>
> It would seem however that surgeons lead by the Urologists in the
> form of Prof Mundy - who now control the JCHST - are changing the
> definition of CCT into a stepping stone lesser qualification than
a
> CCST. A step most people won't make. This does raise the question
of
> who will award a CCST - and will it mean anything? (In more
paranoid
> moments you might actually think that the JCHST is determined to
do
> the governments job for it in terms of dumbing down surgeons...)
>
> If PMETB does become a reality then ALL SUBSEQUENT TRAINEES WILL
GET
> A CCT, even those who have done almost all their training under
the
> old schemes. Perhaps a legal challenge could,and should, be
mounted?
>
> Does this clear things up? Not really.
>
> Please post your thoughts on this site.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Liam






Thu Dec 9, 2004 12:04 pm

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Dear all, I have done some digging to try and find out who will get a CCST and who will get a CCT: the answer dependes on when PMETB takes over responsibility...
liamslmcc
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Dec 8, 2004
1:03 pm

Dear Liam I think we need to send a letter representing the Paediatric surgical trainees to JHCT or RCS asking them to clarify this non sense. As Jes mentioned...
hosgabra2002
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Dec 9, 2004
12:04 pm

Dear Liam and Richard, As you already know I do not feel that our training contract can be changed to a different qualification, especially when the level of...
Naima Smeulders
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Dec 17, 2004
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Hi Naima, I am concerned that it is surgeons who are down-playing what CCT means - no one else. If you look at the RCP website they do not distinguish between...
Liam McCarthy
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Dec 17, 2004
2:29 pm

I have posted the CCST question to the BMA - debate continues in the Junior Doctors forum. http://www.bma.org.uk/ajundisc.nsf/alltopics?OpenView&Login Although...
Richard Lindley
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Dec 18, 2004
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Dear All, having finallly gained access to the BMA discussion forum, this is what they had to say... Happy Christmas, Liam CCST or CCT submitted by richard...
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Dec 21, 2004
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Dear BMA A VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL AT BMA AS WELL CHEERS Nia ... From: "liamslmcc" <liam.mccarthy@...> To:...
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