Hi Gail,
      I was taught that breathing ozone does not give the body the chance to
stimulate lung tissue to manufacture enough antioxidants (ie.
superoxidedesmutase, glutathioneperoxidase, catalase and reductase) to protect
healthy cells from damage. Bocci, claims that it can cause airways to close down
as well and is strongly against it (see his latest book, "Ozone a New Medical
Drug"). Breathing it through olive oil or any other substance or way , it still
is ozone. I caution anyone AGAINST breathing it in on perpose.
      That having been said, as the foremost clinical expert on the use of ozone
in North America, I have been breathing it in for the past 18 years during the
time I am performing direct IV therapy ( as well as when we did major
autohemotherapy) with no apparent adverse reactions nor apparent lung damage
(which I am trained to look for). If your reason for this method is needful
enough and no IV method nor rectal insufflation possible, then as the cliche
goes, "do so at your own risk".

Best of luck,
Dr. Howard Robins


--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
<peter@...> wrote:

> From: Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic <peter@...>
> Subject: RE: [oxyzone] Re: Bubbing under the tongue
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 3:28 PM
> Hi Gail:
>
>
>
> Not certain what unit you are using, if it is one I support
> or recommend I
> can tell you further.
>
>
>
> I am always happy to hear benefits and yes all of what you
> state is common.
>
>
>
> The lungs are a complicated and very specific, so at times
> breathing can
> create a exodus of debris that has been around for eons,
> what I have seen
> other than the normal coughing fits is  a touch of
> pneumonia due to the
> bacteria, viruses, or fungi try to hide from the onslaught.
>
>
>
> May God Bless You And Keep You Well
>
>
>
> Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
>
> www.ozoneuniversity.com
>
> www.ozonehospital.com
>
> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
>
> www.medicalozone.info
>
> www.bloodozonation.com
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/ozoneresearch
>
> Phone - +1-604-501-6051
>
> Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
>
> Fax - +1-440-550-5610
>
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>
> Ozone Research Group
>
> Founder
>
> Skype ID - ozoneresearch
>
> Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
>
> Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
>
> "The only way to discover the limits of the possible
> is to venture a little
> way past them into the impossible."
>
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein,
> this
> communication does not attach any legal liability on the
> originator thereof.
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> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> wanda85929
> Sent: November-20-08 11:52 AM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] Re: Bubbing under the tongue
>
>
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> What flow rate would you suggest?
>
> For some reason I've always thought it was not good to
> breathe ozone
> directly, thus all the instructions about ozonating water
> in a well
> ventilated area, breathe only through ozonated olive oil,
> etc. I
> thought it would harm the lungs if breathed directly into
> lungs.
>
> I've been doing a little at the flow rate of 1/8 L/m
> (.20 on my
> concentrator) because that was what was suggested by a man
> who does
> it that way. I just never really understood (if it's
> kind of like
> insufflating as pumping ozone into a cavity of the body,
> via mouth)
> why you didn't use the flow rate for insufflating,
> which is usually
> 1/32 L/m according to my instructions. But maybe different
> generators are different???
>
> I haven't noticed anything harmful by doing it this
> way. It does
> seem to give me some added energy but feels like I'm
> starting to get
> an itch/rash (maybe) around the jaw area.
>
> I like the fact (maybe factual) of it going into my teeth
> and eye
> area. If feels like it's going directly into the root
> of my teeth,
> which I think would be good for preventing any infection in
> the teeth
> area. Sometimes one can have an infection in their teeth
> and not
> even know it until they're in a lot of trouble with it.
>
> I am being careful not to breathe through my mouth and
> actually think
> this gets to areas (like the teeth/jaw & behind the
> eyes) even better
> than ear insufflating.
>
> What does breathing ozone directly into the lungs do?
>
> TIA,
>
> Gail
>
> -- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com> , "Peter
> \(Professor Ozone\) Jovanovic"
> <peter@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Gail:
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't see a reason why not, I also do not see a
> reason why not to
> breathe
> > it. Certainly will create a reaction with any bugs
> that it
> encounters in
> > mouth, throat, and so on down the tube, however from
> all our
> testing if done
> > right, no problem and great benefit...
> >
> >
> >
> > May God Bless You And Keep You Well
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
> >
> > www.ozoneuniversity.com
> >
> > www.ozonehospital.com
> >
> > www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
> >
> > www.medicalozone.info
> >
> > www.bloodozonation.com
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/ozoneresearch
> >
> > Phone - +1-604-501-6051
> >
> > Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
> >
> > Fax - +1-440-550-5610
> >
> > JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678
> >
> > Ozone Research Group
> >
> > Founder
> >
> > Skype ID - ozoneresearch
> >
> > Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
> >
> > Yahoo Group Owner -
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
> >
> > "The only way to discover the limits of the
> possible is to venture
> a little
> > way past them into the impossible."
> >
> > Arthur C. Clarke
> >
> > WITHOUT PREJUDICE
> >
> > Without prejudice to the generality of the contents
> herein, this
> > communication does not attach any legal liability on
> the originator
> thereof.
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> exclusive
> use of the
> > intended recipient(s). If you have received this
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> > have received it by means of interception, please
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> > required, the services of a competent professional
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > wanda85929
> > Sent: November-20-08 8:33 AM
> > To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [oxyzone] Bubbing under the tongue
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Peter & all,
> >
> > Just curious what your thoughts are on bubbling ozone
> under the
> tongue
> > while only breathing through the nose, taking care
> never to breathe
> it
> > though your mouth and into your lungs.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Gail
> >
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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>
>
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Hi Peter,

What flow rate would you suggest?

For some reason I've always thought it was not good to breathe ozone
directly, thus all the instructions about ozonating water in a well
ventilated area, breathe only through ozonated olive oil, etc.  I
thought it would harm the lungs if breathed directly into lungs.

I've been doing a little at the flow rate of 1/8 L/m (.20 on my
concentrator) because that was what was suggested by a man who does
it that way.  I just never really understood (if it's kind of like
insufflating as pumping ozone into a cavity of the body, via mouth)
why you didn't use the flow rate for insufflating, which is usually
1/32 L/m according to my instructions.  But maybe different
generators are different???

I haven't noticed anything harmful by doing it this way.  It does
seem to give me some added energy but feels like I'm starting to get
an itch/rash (maybe) around the jaw area.

I like the fact (maybe factual) of it going into my teeth and eye
area.  If feels like it's going directly into the root of my teeth,
which I think would be good for preventing any infection in the teeth
area.  Sometimes one can have an infection in their teeth and not
even know it until they're in a lot of trouble with it.

I am being careful not to breathe through my mouth and actually think
this gets to areas (like the teeth/jaw & behind the eyes) even better
than ear insufflating.

What does breathing ozone directly into the lungs do?

TIA,

Gail

-- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Peter \(Professor Ozone\) Jovanovic"
<peter@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gail:
>
>
>
> Don't see a reason why not, I also do not see a reason why not to
breathe
> it. Certainly will create a reaction with any bugs that it
encounters in
> mouth, throat, and so on down the tube, however from all our
testing if done
> right, no problem and great benefit...
>
>
>
> May God Bless You And Keep You Well
>
>
>
> Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
>
> www.ozoneuniversity.com
>
> www.ozonehospital.com
>
> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
>
> www.medicalozone.info
>
> www.bloodozonation.com
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/ozoneresearch
>
> Phone - +1-604-501-6051
>
> Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
>
> Fax - +1-440-550-5610
>
> JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678
>
> Ozone Research Group
>
> Founder
>
> Skype ID - ozoneresearch
>
> Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
>
> Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
>
> "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to venture
a little
> way past them into the impossible."
>
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this
> communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator
thereof.
> This communication contains information, which is private in nature,
> confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive
use of the
> intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by
error, or
> have received it by means of interception, please delete the email
and
> destroy any copies of it.The message herein the subject of this
mailing is
> designed to provide information in regard to the subject matter
covered. It
> is provided with the understanding that the sender of this
information is
> not engaged in rendering legal, medical, accounting or other
professional
> services. If legal, medical advice or other professional assistance
is
> required, the services of a competent professional person should be
sought.
>
>
>
>
> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> wanda85929
> Sent: November-20-08 8:33 AM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] Bubbing under the tongue
>
>
>
> Hi Peter & all,
>
> Just curious what your thoughts are on bubbling ozone under the
tongue
> while only breathing through the nose, taking care never to breathe
it
> though your mouth and into your lungs.
>
> TIA,
>
> Gail
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.7/1799 - Release Date:
19/11/2008
> 6:55 PM
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: [oxyzone] Bubbing under the tongue

Hi Gail:

Don’t see a reason why not, I also do not see a reason why not to breathe it. Certainly will create a reaction with any bugs that it encounters in mouth, throat, and so on down the tube, however from all our testing if done right, no problem and great benefit...

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

www.ozoneuniversity.com

www.ozonehospital.com

www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

www.medicalozone.info

www.bloodozonation.com

http://www.youtube.com/user/ozoneresearch

Phone - +1-604-501-6051

Phone - UK (44) +2071007016

Fax - +1-440-550-5610

JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678

Ozone Research Group

Founder

Skype ID - ozoneresearch

Yahoo ID - humansafe2001

Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone

"The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible."

Arthur C. Clarke

WITHOUT PREJUDICE

Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is private in nature, confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, or have received it by means of interception, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it.The message herein the subject of this mailing is designed to provide information in regard to the subject matter covered. It is provided with the understanding that the sender of this information is not engaged in rendering legal, medical, accounting or other professional services. If legal, medical advice or other professional assistance is required, the services of a competent professional person should be sought. 

From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wanda85929
Sent: November-20-08 8:33 AM
To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [oxyzone] Bubbing under the tongue

Hi Peter & all,

Just curious what your thoughts are on bubbling ozone under the tongue
while only breathing through the nose, taking care never to breathe it
though your mouth and into your lungs.

TIA,

Gail

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Hi Peter & all,

Just curious what your thoughts are on bubbling ozone under the tongue
while only breathing through the nose, taking care never to breathe it
though your mouth and into your lungs.

TIA,

Gail

Can you please provide me a list with contact information of any and
all centers around the world that currently offer Recirculatory
Hemoperfusion? I appreciate your help. Thanks in advance!

-KC

Coronary artery disease (CAD) is the commonest form of cardiovascular disease and the leading cause of morbidity and mortality in many parts of the world including North America. Current therapy for myocardial ischemia relies on drugs that reduce myocardial oxygen demand, mechanical endovascular revascularization procedures (angioplasty) or bypass Surgery. However recent advances in the management of coronary artery disease include what is known as therapeutic angiogenesis. Although Folkman had identified the therapeutic and pathologic implications of neovascularisation due to angiogenic growth factors almost 30 years ago, it is not until recent that therapeutic angiogenesis emerged as a clinically feasible modality in the management of cardiovascular disease and has generated considerable interest as such.

Angiogenesis, the process of new blood vessel formation from pre-existing fully differentiated endothelial cells is comprised of several discrete steps. These include dissolution of matrix, endothelial cell migration, proliferation and organization into a network structure, followed by lumen formation. In therapeutic angiogenesis, erogenous angiogenic growth factors or genes encoding these growth factors are used to stimulate the growth of collateral vessels to ischemic tissues. In all the above-mentioned processes, endothelium derived nitric oxide (NO) has been implicated. NO is an endothelial survival factor, inhibiting apoptosis and enhancing endothelial cell proliferation. NO is generated from a reaction catalyzed by enzyme nitric oxide synthase (NOS). It is also noted that vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF) which is considered to be the most important angiogenic growth factor, stimulates the release of NO and up regulates the expression of nitric oxide synthase (NOS). It binds to receptors on endothelial cells, resulting in their growth, proliferation and migration.

Other factors that are known to regulate angiogenesis are Transforming Growth Factor-beta (TGF-beta) and Tumour Necrosis Factor-alpha (TNF-alpha). Both TGF-beta and TNF-Alpha are angiogenic in vivo. It has been demonstrated on that these cytokines induce angiogenesis indirectly by stimulating the production of direct-acting positive regulators from stromal and chemo-attracted cells. In this context then, TGF-beta and TNF-alpha are considered to be indirect positive regulators.

Apart from the mentioned angiogenic growth factors, a few others have been identified. Among them are fibroblast growth factor, platelet derived growth factor and interleukin 8. It is also imperative to know that expression of the growth factors and the receptors is unregulated by hypoxia and ischemia, allowing a targeted therapeutic response and also limiting the potential for pathologic angiogenesis.

A large body of evidence shows that administration of angiogenic growth factors can augment nutrient perfusion through neovascularisation. Theoretically, angiogenesis can be achieved either by the use of growth factor proteins or by the introduction of genes encoding these proteins (protein versus gene therapy). Hence trials have been carried out to determine the efficacy of such of methods in the treatment of ischemic heart disease. Proof of concept in humans was initially established in severely symptomatic patients with critical limb ischemia. Shortly thereafter, clinical investigations were extended to severely symptomatic patients with coronary artery disease.

Within the same framework, we explore other frontiers that may share the same premise of scientific ingenuity. Could therapeutic angiogenesis be triggered by other mechanisms than protein or gene therapy?

Researchers at the Second University of Naples conducted a study to evaluate the effect of oxygen-ozone therapy upon haemorheological parameters and haemoglobin-oxygen affinity in patients with peripheral occlusive arterial disease. They concluded that ozonized autotranfusion improved the viscosity of blood and its ability to deliver oxygen to tissues in patients suffering from occlusive arterial disease.

Ozone therapy has also been shown to reduce scavenger enzyme activity in patients with cardiovascular disease, which seems to be a critical fact, in the pathogenesis of the disease. It is also reported that ozone can reduce the blood cholesterol level. Anecdotal evidence showed marked improvement clinically and new collaterals angiographically in patients treated with ozone. Could there be a scientific explanation to this phenomenon?

Research carried out at the Institute of General Physiology, University of Siena have shown that the treatment of human endothelial cells with ozonated serum yielded a significant and steady increase of nitric oxide (NO). This observation is extremely important in view that as we had mentioned earlier, NO plays a crucial role in every steps of angiogenesis. We hypothesized that this then could be the link to the observed angiogenic phenomenon. It should also be noted that ozone therapy would also result in increase in levels of a few biological factors namely transforming growth factor beta, tumour necrosis factor alpha, interleukin 8 and platelet derived growth factor. All of these factors as mentioned earlier are angiogenic growth factors. Furthermore ozone has also been shown to increase nitric oxide syntase (NOS) activity, the enzyme catalyzing the production of NO.

The only thing at this moment in time we cannot say is whether ozonated serum is able to increase gene expression of VEGF. However Chua et al. have clearly shown that VEGF mRNA was expressed in a dose and time dependent manner when rat endothelial cells were exposed to 0.5-1 mM H₂0₂. It is a known fact that human serum exposed to biologically active ozone concentration incubated with human endothelial cells will induce H₂0₂ production. Therefore there seem to be an apparent correlation in term of gene expression of VEGF mediated by a known active compound triggered by ozone in human blood.

In a superbly written article entitled " Complementary Medicine: from quackery to scientific?" Prof. Edzard Ernst has pointed out that time has come "to submit to scientific scrutiny treatments that appear potentially useful. The obvious way to do this is to conduct randomized controlled trials taking into account the peculiarities of the remedies that are being tested". That is exactly what we have done and are doing in our hospitals and clinics.

RHP® (Recuirculatory Haemoperfusion) is born as a remedy to many cardiological problems, without undergoing the threatening high risk, painful, expensive and complicated procedures of surgery.

Specialized ozone therapy centres, on administrating the non-invasive wonder therapy RHP® to severe coronary heart disease patients, have found amazing results which have put even the strongest of critics and specialists in the field of cardiology to silence and all they could respond on the observations made was 'unbelievable, but true'.

Through years of extensive research, Ozone Research Group Inc. (The Centre for Specialized Ozone Therapy) has developed a therapy called RHP® that manages to treat 3-4 litres of blood with medical ozone in extracorporeal circulation for a period of 60 to 90 minutes on patients with coronary heart disease. RHP® has proven second to none, in delivery and efficacy. To achieve satisfactory results one has to undergo 15 to 35 hours of therapy depending on the state of the disease and patient.

Similar to haemodialysis, RHP® is performed by withdrawing venous blood and the same blood is infused into an oxygen-ozone gas exchange filter in an upward direction, using a specialized bloodline with a computerized peristaltic pump controlling the rate of withdrawal. Medical ozone is introduced into this hydrophobic and ozone resistant gas exchange filter in the opposite direction from top going downwards and ozonation of blood begins. To avoid blood coagulation during the process of RHP® treatment, thinning of the blood is done, just before the blood is infused into the filter. After passing through the oxygen-ozone gas exchange filter, treated blood is reinfused to the patient. Upon establishment of extracorporeal circuit, the withdrawal rate will be increased to a range of 60 to 80 ml per minute, depending on the condition of the patient.

Results

It has been established by various scientific researchers that reinfusion of oxygenated and ozonated blood enhances the release of Nitric Oxide and Interleukin-8 in the human endothelial cells (the layer of cell lining on the artery wall)

Achieved results of the therapy in general from varied condition of patients' shows:-

1. Improved Vasodilatation (stretching of a vessel/arteriole beyond its normal dimension leading to increased blood flow) in ischemic areas.
2. Reduced Hypoxia ( reduction of oxygen carrying capacity of blood )
3. Induced Neoanglogenesis ( formation of new blood vessels )

As an example, one gentleman had already undergone RHP® treatment for 2 hours per week to complete 35-hour regimen for Triple Vessel Disease (3VD) with Left Main Stem (Involvement) and Impaired Left Ventricular Function.

Conclusion

After completion of 35 hours of RHP® therapy, Ozone Research Group Inc. recommends to repeat the angiogram to reveal the success of the therapy, hereby proving what seemed unbelievable as a theoretical mystery true.

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

www.ozoneuniversity.com

www.ozonehospital.com

www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

www.medicalozone.info

www.bloodozonation.com

http://www.youtube.com/user/ozoneresearch

Phone - +1-604-501-6051

Phone - UK (44) +2071007016

Fax - +1-440-550-5610

JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678

Ozone Research Group

Founder

Skype ID - ozoneresearch

Yahoo ID - humansafe2001

Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone

"The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible."

Arthur C. Clarke

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Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is private in nature, confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, or have received it by means of interception, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it.The message herein the subject of this mailing is designed to provide information in regard to the subject matter covered. It is provided with the understanding that the sender of this information is not engaged in rendering legal, medical, accounting or other professional services. If legal, medical advice or other professional assistance is required, the services of a competent professional person should be sought. 

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May God Bless You And Keep You Well

Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

www.ozoneuniversity.com

www.ozonehospital.com

www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

www.medicalozone.info

www.bloodozonation.com

http://www.youtube.com/user/ozoneresearch

Phone - +1-604-501-6051

Phone - UK (44) +2071007016

Fax - +1-440-550-5610

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Ozone Research Group

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Skype ID - ozoneresearch

Yahoo ID - humansafe2001

Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone

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--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Jan Taylor" <jtaylor@...> wrote:
>
>
Do you have cancer now Gail? Was and is ozone part of your healing
process and is it working for you?
>
> Jan
>
Hi Jan,

No, I do not have cancer.  I'm curious as to the 'now' in your
question.  Why did you ask now?  Are you expecting me to get it in the
future?

I have cfids; use ozone and yes, it does help.  However, it has not
cured me.

Thank you for your reply and I don't think you have started any trouble
in any way.  I love to get all the information I can.  People are
limited by the knowledge they have and everbody only knows as much as
they know.

More questions if you don't mind.  Saul has mentioned their 'clinic'.
Do you know anything about that?  I don't know if he does do any
consulation.  I do know he appeals to the masses via the internet.  You
can't really expect to get hands on, individual help via the internet.
It would be naive of one to think that.

There have been some that have also gone to Mexico for treatment.  It
usually helped to prolong life but again didn't always cure.  Some did,
tho.  Guess it might depend on what you are treating yourself for.

My daughter went to school with a guy who became very ill (can't
remember what he had, but he was seriously ill).  Years later she ran
into him (now completely well).  Asked how?  He said, "have you ever
heard of ozone?"  She replied, "yes, my mom uses it."  He then went on
to tell her he had gone to Mexico and was treated with it.  Don't know
the details, but whatever they did worked for the young man.

Anyway, I'm happy to heard you are making improvement in whatever you
are treating yourself for.  Many don't have the option to venture to
other countries, tho.  For those that can, they often will but still
have various outcomes.  That's just the way it goes.

Take care,

Gail

--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "daveladson" <daveladson@...> wrote:
>
  Hi....me too was wondering what the difference between Saul and
Peters
> methods are ..... if you could clarify that would be most helpful to
> me........

> --- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Jan Taylor" <jtaylor@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Well, aside from Peter I can't tell you who to go TO, but I can
> > tell you who to steer away from and that's Saul Pressman. I
thought I
> > was doing ozone correctly until I started learning what I really
> > should be doing!
------------------------------------

Hello Dave & all,

I was hoping Jan would respond since it was she that said Saul's
method did not work for her.  Only she can tell us how Peter's was
different than what she was doing before.

Jan, we're patiently waiting.

Gail

Hi peter.......was just inquiring how much the RHP machines that you
recommend.....and could this be set up in an ordinary alternative
medical practice or would it need to be practiced in a hospital
setting with emergency facilities.......

Many thanks   David

Hi....me too was wondering what the difference between Saul and Peters
methods are ..... if you could clarify that would be most helpful to
me........i know of Sauls methods as i am a member of the ozonetherapy
group....but just want to know other peoples approach to using the
ozone and how it might differ...

Many thanks    David

--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...> wrote:
>
> --- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Jan Taylor" <jtaylor@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Well, aside from Peter I can't tell you who to go TO, but I can
> tell you who to steer away from and that's Saul Pressman. I thought I
> was doing ozone correctly until I started learning what I really
> should be doing!  Now I feel like I'm starting at the beginning again
> but at least I'll be getting the most out of it this time around. No
> wonder I wasn't seeing any improvement. Makes all the difference to
> work with someone who knows!! Thanks Peter. <snip>
> >
> > Gail, when you insufflate vaginally do you make a concious effort
> to not let the gas escape? Are you pinching to keep it in?
> >--------------------------------
> >
> Jan,
>
> Can you please tell me what the difference is with Peter's
> instructions vrs. Saul's for  insufflating/baging/sauna?  Exactly
> what is the difference and why/how did Peter's work when Saul's
> didn't.  Please be specific so that I might know the difference.
>
> When vaginally insufflating, I cross my legs in an effort not to let
> the gas excape.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gail
>
> Ps.  Happy Father's Day to all the Father's out there!
>

--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote:
>
>
I have asked that we change the title of this thread and it continues,
so I am afraid that I am going to have to do it myself...
>
>   Gail, please do not change the thread tittles...
>
>
Peter, please clarify what you want.  First you ask us to change the
title then you ask me not to.  Most all of the lists I have been on
people will complain about people NOT changing the subject line.  I
thought that was what you were asking so I complied.  So are you asking
us not to change it after all and was only talking about the one
referring to yourself in a negative way?  Are you wanting me never to
change the subject line even if I am changing it to refer to the topic
I am responding to?


Just trying to figure out exactly what you do want.  Gail

I have asked that we change the title of this thread and it continues, so I am afraid that I am going to have to do it myself...

 

Gail, please do not change the thread tittles...

 

Dr Carol, I know Howard Robins, he is a podiatrist that has been doing ozone IV longer than anyone I know.

 

 

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From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Ann
Sent: June-15-08 7:05 PM
To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco Artist

 

How does anyone know that Dr. Robbins is Dr.  Everyone calls Saul Dr. too

Dennis Lipter <blackcat54@...> wrote:

Dr Robbins,

 

Do you include ozone sauna as a relatively ineffective home care method?

 

I was under the impression that the ozone sauna is quite powerful.

 

Thanks,

 

dlipter

----- Original Message -----

From: DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINS

To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 7:02 AM

Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco Artist

 

Please send me the names and contact numbers for the Dr's who are doing IV ozone therapy. I have always heard that they exist but have never been able to locate them. All other forms of ozone care are secondary "home care" methods and will not consistantly help patients get rid of serious health issues in my experience.

 

Thanks,

Dr Robins

wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:

Hello Doctor Howard, Peter, & all,

I was wanting to respond to your post for several reasons. Although
it's kind of hard to respond to a person that isn't even on the
list. Guess you will have to forward my response to him yourself if
you so desire. It looks like he sent you the message about Peter
privately and then you forwarded it to the list, correct?

If I am not being too forward may I ask what type of doctor you are
since one of the subject matter is titles?

Responses below in text.

-- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINS
<howardrobins@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I am Dr Howard Robins and I have been doing intravenous
ozone therapy for the last 18 years in NYC. Because the governments
in north america are against the using of ozone for medical purposes
it is necessary to be extremely careful when discussing the use and
sale of equipment for those purposes (or you may go to jail). It is
legal in New York State because of Dr Robert Akins (the diet dr). It
is not legal anywhere else in NA.

*** This was one of the reasons I was so excited to respond to you.
I googled 'ozone clinics in the Unites States' and got a wealth of
information. They are all over the place. Since I live in Arizona,
I checked out my state. There's some in Phoenix, Tucson, Scottsdale,
Yuma, all over. I was very excited!

*** You mentioned legality. These clinics are run by licensed MD's,
DO's, N.M.D's and such. There's nothing illegal about any of it.
Now I don't know what all types of therapies they administer but
listed was, 'ultraviolet blood irradiation therapy, ozone therapy,
far infrared sauna, and the likes. I'm really impressed and happy!
It's now legal here in the STATES! YEAH!

Why I received your e-mail is a mystery to me as I am not currently
on any chat groups that I know of,

*** Uh, then why are you sending it to this list?

>
> mix7401 <mix7401@...> wrote:

Again, responses within text, but I feel kind of like I'm talking to
a ghost. How will he ever get my reply to him? gail

> I want the people in this group to read the emails I
exchanged with
> Peter Jovanovic. Peter, as you all know, has generously given
himself
> the title of "Professor Ozone."

*** The title 'professor' means, "a teacher of the highest rank in a
university or college", but it also means, "one who professes skill
and offers instruction in some sport or art." I don't know for a
fact if there is even such a thing as an ozone university so I have
always assumed his title was refering to his skills in ozone
therapies. Why not just ask him HIS reasoning for using the
term 'professor'?
>
> Does anyone else here find an eerie similarity with Ed McCabe - Mr.
> Oxygen?

**** It doesn't seem errie at all to me. I think they might even be
friends. BTW, do you also have some discomforter in Ed McCabe using
the title "Mr. Oxygen"? Just curious.
>
> I personally think our good friend Peter took a look at Ed McCabe,
an
> author and respected authority on oxygen therapies, and decided he
> too could invent an authoritative title for himself. The difference
> is that Peter has no credentials and is neither an author, doctor,
or
> professor.

*** Well, that is only your opinion, ofcourse. I will agree with
those that use titles implying they are something more than what they
are as being disceptive, but I just don't have any feelings about
that towards Peter. The term professor just never bothered me. If
that's the only thing you have against him, you might want to take a
closer look.
>
> The only thing I have found supporting Peter's credentials
> are "testimonies" (sic) which have a writing style strikingly
similar
> to his. Just a coincidence?

*** Again, what 'credentials'? Ask the man about it first before you
go spouting off.
>
> I want to be clear that I'm not attacking Peter because I don't
like
> him. I actually don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. He probably
is
> really desperate for money. I have seen posts on the internet to
that
> effect.

*** It really does sound like an attack. To me, it sounds a little
like hitting below the belt. I really don't know why you did it.
And personally, I think peoples' money business is their private
business and none of mine.
>
> But I don't want him taking advantage of the sick and the weak.

*** There are so many in the alternative field that so often will
say, "You are responsible for your own health, or take your health
into your own hands, etc." The sick and weak are always vulnerable,
but I haven't seen Peter taking advantage of that. BE specific or be
quiet. Like I said it sounds like you are hitting below the belt.
>
> BTW, ozone is a powerful solution for many illnesses. However, I
> would think twice before putting my trust in Peter.

*** Ozone is powerful, but from my experience with it, I have found
it to also have it's limits. That's been my experience anyway. Most
protocols will include other methods of detoxing as well as
exercising, eating, etc. that are equally important. One really
can't expect ozone to be the 'be all'.

*** I think that after doing one's own homework, one can decide whom
they will or will not put their trust in all by themself. It does
take some time, tho, learning who one can trust, and will often learn
lessons the hard way.
>
>
> You need to tell me what products/services you are
> offering before asking me to start sending my personal
> medical history.
>
>*** I cut out the rest of the correspondence because it was getting
so long. But what I will say is I think everybody really has to do
some leg work researching the various protocols themself. I do agree
about wanting to know what Peter is offering before divulging any
personal medical history. Some people are very private with some
illnesses such as HIV due to social prejudices. BTW, you can get
your own records released to yourself but will usually have to sign a
release form. There needs to be a give and take of both parties, imo.

*** There have been some really ugly activities thay have gone on in
the ozone world; it's actually sad to say. The war between some of
the competitors is frankly quite sickening. And once having been
burned, one will never be the same, making that person older, wiser,
and much more cautious. However, all that comes with experience.

*** So in conclusion, ozone is good. Do some homework before
deciding if it is the route you want to go. There is a wealth of
information on the net.

Truth always has a way of coming to the surfice. It's only a matter
of time. I do not think Peter is a scammer. That's my opinion. I
think he does a lot of good. However, I still say ozone is simply
not the cure all people so often want it to be.

Take care,

Gail

 

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--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Jan Taylor" <jtaylor@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, aside from Peter I can't tell you who to go TO, but I can
tell you who to steer away from and that's Saul Pressman. I thought I
was doing ozone correctly until I started learning what I really
should be doing!  Now I feel like I'm starting at the beginning again
but at least I'll be getting the most out of it this time around. No
wonder I wasn't seeing any improvement. Makes all the difference to
work with someone who knows!! Thanks Peter. <snip>
>
> Gail, when you insufflate vaginally do you make a concious effort
to not let the gas escape? Are you pinching to keep it in?
>--------------------------------
>
Jan,

Can you please tell me what the difference is with Peter's
instructions vrs. Saul's for  insufflating/baging/sauna?  Exactly
what is the difference and why/how did Peter's work when Saul's
didn't.  Please be specific so that I might know the difference.

When vaginally insufflating, I cross my legs in an effort not to let
the gas excape.

Thanks,

Gail

Ps.  Happy Father's Day to all the Father's out there!

--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "dwntwngrl2" <dwntwngrl2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to do vag. insufflation
> with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
> to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
> the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong? Any
> help is appreciated. thx KC
>
Hi KC,

Preferred ladies only or not.  Just that the men don't really seem to
get it.

My favorite method of insufflating is vaginally.  But when I first
started doing it, I rashed so much on the inside leg area and
experienced a lot of embarrasing vaginal itching, sometimes
unbearable.  I started wrapping the catheter with a wash towel as well
as covering the leg area.  This did help somewhat.  However, what I
have dicovered to be the most effective way of delivering the ozone
without it causing any unwanted rashing is to simply do away with the
catheter and use the silicone tubing itself.  I dip the tubing in a
bottle of peroxide to disinfect (very important) then rub some ozonated
olive oil on the tubing that is to be inserted to allow lubrication and
insert.

It feels to me like this method delivers more ozone than the tiny
catheter, but have been told that this is simply not true by a man.  I
have to wonder, how in the world he would know. lol

Ok, here's my theary.  I think when I used the catheter, ozone would
somehow seep out at the connecting area causing the rashing.  With
using the tubing only method, I am able to avoid any contection
allowing full infiltration with the tubing.  More ozone is put into my
body, while none is seeping out.

Now some women might feel a little skimmish using the tubing instead of
the catheter, I don't know.  It's up to you.  For me, I will never go
back to the catheter.

With vaginal insufflating, you will experience ozone even in your
head.  The first time I experienced this, I was amazed!  It is a very
effective method of delivery, ozonating the entire body.  So much nicer
than a sauna, too, as there is virtually no clean up afterwards.
Sometimes there is an ozone smell in the room when I'm done.  I really
don't know how you can completely avoid it.  It's certainly not
dangerous as one is not directly inhaling it.

Hope this helps.

Gail

...you probably can't unless you're certified to handle it or something, and
there's probably a bunch of homeland security issues.  why do you need
rocket fuel?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
> Of landangel43
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:14 PM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] liquid oxygen
>
>
> where can i get liquid oxygen?   landangel43@...

where can i get liquid oxygen?   landangel43@...