Hi peter.......was just inquiring how much the RHP machines that you
recommend.....and could this be set up in an ordinary alternative
medical practice or would it need to be practiced in a hospital
setting with emergency facilities.......
Many thanks David
Hi....me too was wondering what the difference between Saul and Peters
methods are ..... if you could clarify that would be most helpful to
me........i know of Sauls methods as i am a member of the ozonetherapy
group....but just want to know other peoples approach to using the
ozone and how it might differ...
Many thanks David
--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "wanda85929" <wanda85929@...> wrote:
>
> --- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Jan Taylor" <jtaylor@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Well, aside from Peter I can't tell you who to go TO, but I can
> tell you who to steer away from and that's Saul Pressman. I thought I
> was doing ozone correctly until I started learning what I really
> should be doing! Now I feel like I'm starting at the beginning again
> but at least I'll be getting the most out of it this time around. No
> wonder I wasn't seeing any improvement. Makes all the difference to
> work with someone who knows!! Thanks Peter. <snip>
> >
> > Gail, when you insufflate vaginally do you make a concious effort
> to not let the gas escape? Are you pinching to keep it in?
> >--------------------------------
> >
> Jan,
>
> Can you please tell me what the difference is with Peter's
> instructions vrs. Saul's for insufflating/baging/sauna? Exactly
> what is the difference and why/how did Peter's work when Saul's
> didn't. Please be specific so that I might know the difference.
>
> When vaginally insufflating, I cross my legs in an effort not to let
> the gas excape.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gail
>
> Ps. Happy Father's Day to all the Father's out there!
>
Lol, at this point I really have no clue but....I really did not
like that heading so I have eliminated all traces of it, however along with
that the posts had to go, I will take the text out and re-post them if you like?
Please feel free to do as you please, sorry for the
misunderstanding.
"Imagination
is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited.
Imagination encircles the world."
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[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wanda85929 Sent: June-20-08 1:56 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [oxyzone] Re: Informing
--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann
<saffireskyes@...> wrote:
>
>
I have asked that we change the title of this thread and it continues,
so I am afraid that I am going to have to do it myself...
>
> Gail, please do not change the thread tittles...
>
>
Peter, please clarify what you want. First you ask us to change the
title then you ask me not to. Most all of the lists I have been on
people will complain about people NOT changing the subject line. I
thought that was what you were asking so I complied. So are you asking
us not to change it after all and was only talking about the one
referring to yourself in a negative way? Are you wanting me never to
change the subject line even if I am changing it to refer to the topic
I am responding to?
Just trying to figure out exactly what you do want. Gail
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--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, Carol Ann <saffireskyes@...> wrote:
>
>
I have asked that we change the title of this thread and it continues,
so I am afraid that I am going to have to do it myself...
>
> Gail, please do not change the thread tittles...
>
>
Peter, please clarify what you want. First you ask us to change the
title then you ask me not to. Most all of the lists I have been on
people will complain about people NOT changing the subject line. I
thought that was what you were asking so I complied. So are you asking
us not to change it after all and was only talking about the one
referring to yourself in a negative way? Are you wanting me never to
change the subject line even if I am changing it to refer to the topic
I am responding to?
Just trying to figure out exactly what you do want. Gail
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[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Ann Sent: June-19-08 6:56 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [oxyzone] Re: Informing
Good. Please make sure not to remove his/this post referencing his
name, should I ever need the serivces/advice of a Dr. that is familiar
with the IV protocol.
Peter Professor Ozone Jovanovic <peter@...>
wrote:
I have asked
that we change the title of this thread and it continues, so I am afraid that I
am going to have to do it myself...
Gail, please do
not change the thread tittles...
Dr Carol, I
know Howard Robins, he is a podiatrist that has been doing ozone IV longer than
anyone I know.
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From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Carol Ann Sent: June-15-08 7:05 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" -
Scammer and Bunco Artist
How does anyone know that Dr. Robbins is Dr. Everyone
calls Saul Dr. too
Dennis Lipter <blackcat54@...> wrote:
Dr Robbins,
Do you include ozone sauna as
a relatively ineffective home care method?
I was under the impression
that the ozone sauna is quite powerful.
Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor
Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco Artist
Please send me the names and contact numbers for the Dr's
who are doing IV ozone therapy. I have always heard that they exist but have
never been able to locate them. All other forms of ozone care are secondary
"home care" methods and will not consistantly help patients get rid
of serious health issues in my experience.
Thanks,
Dr Robins
wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:
Hello Doctor Howard, Peter, & all,
I was wanting to respond to your post for several reasons. Although
it's kind of hard to respond to a person that isn't even on the
list. Guess you will have to forward my response to him yourself if
you so desire. It looks like he sent you the message about Peter
privately and then you forwarded it to the list, correct?
If I am not being too forward may I ask what type of doctor you are
since one of the subject matter is titles?
Responses below in text.
-- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com,
DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINS
<howardrobins@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I am Dr Howard Robins and I have been doing intravenous
ozone therapy for the last 18 years in NYC. Because the governments
in north america are against the using of ozone for medical purposes
it is necessary to be extremely careful when discussing the use and
sale of equipment for those purposes (or you may go to jail). It is
legal in New York State because of Dr Robert Akins (the diet dr). It
is not legal anywhere else in NA.
*** This was one of the reasons I was so excited to respond to you.
I googled 'ozone clinics in the Unites States' and got a wealth of
information. They are all over the place. Since I live in Arizona,
I checked out my state. There's some in Phoenix, Tucson, Scottsdale,
Yuma, all over. I was very excited!
*** You mentioned legality. These clinics are run by licensed MD's,
DO's, N.M.D's and such. There's nothing illegal about any of it.
Now I don't know what all types of therapies they administer but
listed was, 'ultraviolet blood irradiation therapy, ozone therapy,
far infrared sauna, and the likes. I'm really impressed and happy!
It's now legal here in the STATES! YEAH!
Why I received your e-mail is a mystery to me as I am not currently
on any chat groups that I know of,
*** Uh, then why are you sending it to this list?
>
> mix7401 <mix7401@...> wrote:
Again, responses within text, but I feel kind of like I'm talking to
a ghost. How will he ever get my reply to him? gail
> I want the people in this group to read the emails I
exchanged with
> Peter Jovanovic. Peter, as you all know, has generously given
himself
> the title of "Professor Ozone."
*** The title 'professor' means, "a teacher of the highest rank in a
university or college", but it also means, "one who professes skill
and offers instruction in some sport or art." I don't know for a
fact if there is even such a thing as an ozone university so I have
always assumed his title was refering to his skills in ozone
therapies. Why not just ask him HIS reasoning for using the
term 'professor'?
>
> Does anyone else here find an eerie similarity with Ed McCabe - Mr.
> Oxygen?
**** It doesn't seem errie at all to me. I think they might even be
friends. BTW, do you also have some discomforter in Ed McCabe using
the title "Mr. Oxygen"? Just curious.
>
> I personally think our good friend Peter took a look at Ed McCabe,
an
> author and respected authority on oxygen therapies, and decided he
> too could invent an authoritative title for himself. The difference
> is that Peter has no credentials and is neither an author, doctor,
or
> professor.
*** Well, that is only your opinion, ofcourse. I will agree with
those that use titles implying they are something more than what they
are as being disceptive, but I just don't have any feelings about
that towards Peter. The term professor just never bothered me. If
that's the only thing you have against him, you might want to take a
closer look.
>
> The only thing I have found supporting Peter's credentials
> are "testimonies" (sic) which have a writing style strikingly
similar
> to his. Just a coincidence?
*** Again, what 'credentials'? Ask the man about it first before you
go spouting off.
>
> I want to be clear that I'm not attacking Peter because I don't
like
> him. I actually don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. He probably
is
> really desperate for money. I have seen posts on the internet to
that
> effect.
*** It really does sound like an attack. To me, it sounds a little
like hitting below the belt. I really don't know why you did it.
And personally, I think peoples' money business is their private
business and none of mine.
>
> But I don't want him taking advantage of the sick and the weak.
*** There are so many in the alternative field that so often will
say, "You are responsible for your own health, or take your health
into your own hands, etc." The sick and weak are always vulnerable,
but I haven't seen Peter taking advantage of that. BE specific or be
quiet. Like I said it sounds like you are hitting below the belt.
>
> BTW, ozone is a powerful solution for many illnesses. However, I
> would think twice before putting my trust in Peter.
*** Ozone is powerful, but from my experience with it, I have found
it to also have it's limits. That's been my experience anyway. Most
protocols will include other methods of detoxing as well as
exercising, eating, etc. that are equally important. One really
can't expect ozone to be the 'be all'.
*** I think that after doing one's own homework, one can decide whom
they will or will not put their trust in all by themself. It does
take some time, tho, learning who one can trust, and will often learn
lessons the hard way.
>
>
> You need to tell me what products/services you are
> offering before asking me to start sending my personal
> medical history.
>
>*** I cut out the rest of the correspondence because it was getting
so long. But what I will say is I think everybody really has to do
some leg work researching the various protocols themself. I do agree
about wanting to know what Peter is offering before divulging any
personal medical history. Some people are very private with some
illnesses such as HIV due to social prejudices. BTW, you can get
your own records released to yourself but will usually have to sign a
release form. There needs to be a give and take of both parties, imo.
*** There have been some really ugly activities thay have gone on in
the ozone world; it's actually sad to say. The war between some of
the competitors is frankly quite sickening. And once having been
burned, one will never be the same, making that person older, wiser,
and much more cautious. However, all that comes with experience.
*** So in conclusion, ozone is good. Do some homework before
deciding if it is the route you want to go. There is a wealth of
information on the net.
Truth always has a way of coming to the surfice. It's only a matter
of time. I do not think Peter is a scammer. That's my opinion. I
think he does a lot of good. However, I still say ozone is simply
not the cure all people so often want it to be.
Take care,
Gail
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Good. Please make sure not to remove his/this post referencing his name, should I ever need the serivces/advice of a Dr. that is familiar with the IV protocol.
Peter Professor Ozone Jovanovic <peter@...> wrote:
I have asked that we change the title of this thread and it continues, so I am afraid that I am going to have to do it myself...
Gail, please do not change the thread tittles...
Dr Carol, I know Howard Robins, he is a podiatrist that has been doing ozone IV longer than anyone I know.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the
world."
Albert Einstein
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This communication contains information, which is private in nature, confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received
this communication by error, or have received it by means of interception, please delete the email and destroy any copies of it.The message herein the subject of this mailing is designed to provide information in regard to the subject matter covered. It is provided with the understanding that the sender of this information is not engaged in rendering legal, medical, accounting or other professional services. If legal, medical advice or other professional assistance is required, the services of a competent professional person should be sought.
From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carol Ann Sent: June-15-08 7:05 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco Artist
How does anyone know that Dr. Robbins is Dr. Everyone calls Saul Dr. too
Dennis Lipter <blackcat54@...> wrote:
Dr Robbins,
Do you include ozone sauna as a relatively ineffective home care method?
I was under the impression that the ozone sauna is quite powerful.
Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco Artist
Please send me the names and contact numbers for the Dr's who are doing IV ozone therapy. I have always heard that they exist but have never been able to locate them. All other forms of ozone care are secondary "home care" methods and will not consistantly help patients get rid of serious health issues in my experience.
Thanks,
Dr Robins
wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:
Hello Doctor Howard, Peter, & all,
I was wanting to respond to your post for several reasons. Although it's kind of hard to respond to a person that isn't even on the list. Guess you will have to forward my response to him yourself if you so desire. It looks like he sent you the message about Peter privately and then you forwarded it to the list, correct?
If I am not being too forward may I ask what type of doctor you are since one of the subject matter is titles?
Responses below in text.
-- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINS <howardrobins@...> wrote: > > Hello, I am Dr Howard Robins and I
have been doing intravenous ozone therapy for the last 18 years in NYC. Because the governments in north america are against the using of ozone for medical purposes it is necessary to be extremely careful when discussing the use and sale of equipment for those purposes (or you may go to jail). It is legal in New York State because of Dr Robert Akins (the diet dr). It is not legal anywhere else in NA.
*** This was one of the reasons I was so excited to respond to you. I googled 'ozone clinics in the Unites States' and got a wealth of information. They are all over the place. Since I live in Arizona, I checked out my state. There's some in Phoenix, Tucson, Scottsdale, Yuma, all over. I was very excited!
*** You mentioned legality. These clinics are run by licensed MD's, DO's, N.M.D's and such. There's nothing illegal about any of it. Now I don't know what all types of therapies they administer but
listed was, 'ultraviolet blood irradiation therapy, ozone therapy, far infrared sauna, and the likes. I'm really impressed and happy! It's now legal here in the STATES! YEAH!
Why I received your e-mail is a mystery to me as I am not currently on any chat groups that I know of,
*** Uh, then why are you sending it to this list?
> > mix7401 <mix7401@...> wrote:
Again, responses within text, but I feel kind of like I'm talking to a ghost. How will he ever get my reply to him? gail
> I want the people in this group to read the emails I exchanged with > Peter Jovanovic. Peter, as you all know, has generously given himself > the title of "Professor Ozone."
*** The title 'professor' means, "a teacher of the highest rank in a university or college", but it also means, "one who professes skill and offers instruction in some sport or art." I don't
know for a fact if there is even such a thing as an ozone university so I have always assumed his title was refering to his skills in ozone therapies. Why not just ask him HIS reasoning for using the term 'professor'? > > Does anyone else here find an eerie similarity with Ed McCabe - Mr. > Oxygen?
**** It doesn't seem errie at all to me. I think they might even be friends. BTW, do you also have some discomforter in Ed McCabe using the title "Mr. Oxygen"? Just curious. > > I personally think our good friend Peter took a look at Ed McCabe, an > author and respected authority on oxygen therapies, and decided he > too could invent an authoritative title for himself. The difference > is that Peter has no credentials and is neither an author, doctor, or > professor.
*** Well, that is only your opinion, ofcourse. I will agree with those that use
titles implying they are something more than what they are as being disceptive, but I just don't have any feelings about that towards Peter. The term professor just never bothered me. If that's the only thing you have against him, you might want to take a closer look. > > The only thing I have found supporting Peter's credentials > are "testimonies" (sic) which have a writing style strikingly similar > to his. Just a coincidence?
*** Again, what 'credentials'? Ask the man about it first before you go spouting off. > > I want to be clear that I'm not attacking Peter because I don't like > him. I actually don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. He probably is > really desperate for money. I have seen posts on the internet to that > effect.
*** It really does sound like an attack. To me, it sounds a little like hitting below the belt. I
really don't know why you did it. And personally, I think peoples' money business is their private business and none of mine. > > But I don't want him taking advantage of the sick and the weak.
*** There are so many in the alternative field that so often will say, "You are responsible for your own health, or take your health into your own hands, etc." The sick and weak are always vulnerable, but I haven't seen Peter taking advantage of that. BE specific or be quiet. Like I said it sounds like you are hitting below the belt. > > BTW, ozone is a powerful solution for many illnesses. However, I > would think twice before putting my trust in Peter.
*** Ozone is powerful, but from my experience with it, I have found it to also have it's limits. That's been my experience anyway. Most protocols will include other methods of detoxing as well as exercising, eating, etc. that are
equally important. One really can't expect ozone to be the 'be all'.
*** I think that after doing one's own homework, one can decide whom they will or will not put their trust in all by themself. It does take some time, tho, learning who one can trust, and will often learn lessons the hard way. > > > You need to tell me what products/services you are > offering before asking me to start sending my personal > medical history. > >*** I cut out the rest of the correspondence because it was getting so long. But what I will say is I think everybody really has to do some leg work researching the various protocols themself. I do agree about wanting to know what Peter is offering before divulging any personal medical history. Some people are very private with some illnesses such as HIV due to social prejudices. BTW, you can get your own records released to yourself but
will usually have to sign a release form. There needs to be a give and take of both parties, imo.
*** There have been some really ugly activities thay have gone on in the ozone world; it's actually sad to say. The war between some of the competitors is frankly quite sickening. And once having been burned, one will never be the same, making that person older, wiser, and much more cautious. However, all that comes with experience.
*** So in conclusion, ozone is good. Do some homework before deciding if it is the route you want to go. There is a wealth of information on the net.
Truth always has a way of coming to the surfice. It's only a matter of time. I do not think Peter is a scammer. That's my opinion. I think he does a lot of good. However, I still say ozone is simply not the cure all people so often want it to be.
Take care,
Gail
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I have now deleted all messages with that title, if any of you
wish me to take the text out of the messages I had deleted and re-post I will
be delighted to do it under a new title, of course...
Reason for this move is quite simple, when Google does a sweep
of this group they will put those messages in a search under my name and that
makes me feel a little uneasy, quite frankly. I DO NOT delete messages, however
the thread title turned my stomach every time it came up, hope you all
understand that...
"Imagination
is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited.
Imagination encircles the world."
Albert
Einstein
WITHOUT
PREJUDICE
Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication
does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This
communication contains information, which is private in nature, confidential
and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended
recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, or have
received it by means of interception, please delete the email and destroy any
copies of it.The message herein the subject of this mailing is designed to
provide information in regard to the subject matter covered. It is provided
with the understanding that the sender of this information is not engaged in
rendering legal, medical, accounting or other professional services. If legal,
medical advice or other professional assistance is required, the services of a
competent professional person should be sought.
From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Professor Ozone
Jovanovic Sent: June-15-08 7:43 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [oxyzone] Re: Informing
I have asked that we change the title of
this thread and it continues, so I am afraid that I am going to have to do it
myself...
Gail, please do not change the thread
tittles...
Dr Carol, I know Howard Robins, he is a
podiatrist that has been doing ozone IV longer than anyone I know.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited.
Imagination encircles the world."
Albert Einstein
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication
does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This
communication contains information, which is private in nature, confidential
and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended
recipient(s). If you have received this communication by error, or have
received it by means of interception, please delete the email and destroy any
copies of it.The message herein the subject of this mailing is designed to
provide information in regard to the subject matter covered. It is provided
with the understanding that the sender of this information is not engaged in
rendering legal, medical, accounting or other professional services. If legal,
medical advice or other professional assistance is required, the services of a
competent professional person should be sought.
From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Carol Ann Sent: June-15-08 7:05 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" -
Scammer and Bunco Artist
How does anyone know that Dr. Robbins is Dr. Everyone calls Saul Dr.
too
Dennis Lipter <blackcat54@...> wrote:
Dr Robbins,
Do you include ozone sauna as a relatively ineffective
home care method?
I was under the impression that the ozone sauna is
quite powerful.
Subject: Re:
[oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco
Artist
Please
send me the names and contact numbers for the Dr's who are doing IV ozone
therapy. I have always heard that they exist but have never been able to locate
them. All other forms of ozone care are secondary "home care" methods
and will not consistantly help patients get rid of serious health issues in my
experience.
Thanks,
Dr
Robins
wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:
Hello
Doctor Howard, Peter, & all,
I was wanting to respond to your post for several reasons. Although
it's kind of hard to respond to a person that isn't even on the
list. Guess you will have to forward my response to him yourself if
you so desire. It looks like he sent you the message about Peter
privately and then you forwarded it to the list, correct?
If I am not being too forward may I ask what type of doctor you are
since one of the subject matter is titles?
Responses below in text.
-- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com,
DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINS
<howardrobins@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I am Dr Howard Robins and I have been doing intravenous
ozone therapy for the last 18 years in NYC. Because the governments
in north america are against the using of ozone for medical purposes
it is necessary to be extremely careful when discussing the use and
sale of equipment for those purposes (or you may go to jail). It is
legal in New York State because of Dr Robert Akins (the diet dr). It
is not legal anywhere else in NA.
*** This was one of the reasons I was so excited to respond to you.
I googled 'ozone clinics in the Unites States' and got a wealth of
information. They are all over the place. Since I live in Arizona,
I checked out my state. There's some in Phoenix, Tucson, Scottsdale,
Yuma, all over. I was very excited!
*** You mentioned legality. These clinics are run by licensed MD's,
DO's, N.M.D's and such. There's nothing illegal about any of it.
Now I don't know what all types of therapies they administer but
listed was, 'ultraviolet blood irradiation therapy, ozone therapy,
far infrared sauna, and the likes. I'm really impressed and happy!
It's now legal here in the STATES! YEAH!
Why I received your e-mail is a mystery to me as I am not currently
on any chat groups that I know of,
*** Uh, then why are you sending it to this list?
>
> mix7401 <mix7401@...> wrote:
Again, responses within text, but I feel kind of like I'm talking to
a ghost. How will he ever get my reply to him? gail
> I want the people in this group to read the emails I
exchanged with
> Peter Jovanovic. Peter, as you all know, has generously given
himself
> the title of "Professor Ozone."
*** The title 'professor' means, "a teacher of the highest rank in a
university or college", but it also means, "one who professes skill
and offers instruction in some sport or art." I don't know for a
fact if there is even such a thing as an ozone university so I have
always assumed his title was refering to his skills in ozone
therapies. Why not just ask him HIS reasoning for using the
term 'professor'?
>
> Does anyone else here find an eerie similarity with Ed McCabe - Mr.
> Oxygen?
**** It doesn't seem errie at all to me. I think they might even be
friends. BTW, do you also have some discomforter in Ed McCabe using
the title "Mr. Oxygen"? Just curious.
>
> I personally think our good friend Peter took a look at Ed McCabe,
an
> author and respected authority on oxygen therapies, and decided he
> too could invent an authoritative title for himself. The difference
> is that Peter has no credentials and is neither an author, doctor,
or
> professor.
*** Well, that is only your opinion, ofcourse. I will agree with
those that use titles implying they are something more than what they
are as being disceptive, but I just don't have any feelings about
that towards Peter. The term professor just never bothered me. If
that's the only thing you have against him, you might want to take a
closer look.
>
> The only thing I have found supporting Peter's credentials
> are "testimonies" (sic) which have a writing style strikingly
similar
> to his. Just a coincidence?
*** Again, what 'credentials'? Ask the man about it first before you
go spouting off.
>
> I want to be clear that I'm not attacking Peter because I don't
like
> him. I actually don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. He probably
is
> really desperate for money. I have seen posts on the internet to
that
> effect.
*** It really does sound like an attack. To me, it sounds a little
like hitting below the belt. I really don't know why you did it.
And personally, I think peoples' money business is their private
business and none of mine.
>
> But I don't want him taking advantage of the sick and the weak.
*** There are so many in the alternative field that so often will
say, "You are responsible for your own health, or take your health
into your own hands, etc." The sick and weak are always vulnerable,
but I haven't seen Peter taking advantage of that. BE specific or be
quiet. Like I said it sounds like you are hitting below the belt.
>
> BTW, ozone is a powerful solution for many illnesses. However, I
> would think twice before putting my trust in Peter.
*** Ozone is powerful, but from my experience with it, I have found
it to also have it's limits. That's been my experience anyway. Most
protocols will include other methods of detoxing as well as
exercising, eating, etc. that are equally important. One really
can't expect ozone to be the 'be all'.
*** I think that after doing one's own homework, one can decide whom
they will or will not put their trust in all by themself. It does
take some time, tho, learning who one can trust, and will often learn
lessons the hard way.
>
>
> You need to tell me what products/services you are
> offering before asking me to start sending my personal
> medical history.
>
>*** I cut out the rest of the correspondence because it was getting
so long. But what I will say is I think everybody really has to do
some leg work researching the various protocols themself. I do agree
about wanting to know what Peter is offering before divulging any
personal medical history. Some people are very private with some
illnesses such as HIV due to social prejudices. BTW, you can get
your own records released to yourself but will usually have to sign a
release form. There needs to be a give and take of both parties, imo.
*** There have been some really ugly activities thay have gone on in
the ozone world; it's actually sad to say. The war between some of
the competitors is frankly quite sickening. And once having been
burned, one will never be the same, making that person older, wiser,
and much more cautious. However, all that comes with experience.
*** So in conclusion, ozone is good. Do some homework before
deciding if it is the route you want to go. There is a wealth of
information on the net.
Truth always has a way of coming to the surfice. It's only a matter
of time. I do not think Peter is a scammer. That's my opinion. I
think he does a lot of good. However, I still say ozone is simply
not the cure all people so often want it to be.
Take care,
Gail
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--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Jan Taylor" <jtaylor@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Well, aside from Peter I can't tell you who to go TO, but I can
tell you who to steer away from and that's Saul Pressman. I thought I
was doing ozone correctly until I started learning what I really
should be doing! Now I feel like I'm starting at the beginning again
but at least I'll be getting the most out of it this time around. No
wonder I wasn't seeing any improvement. Makes all the difference to
work with someone who knows!! Thanks Peter. <snip>
>
> Gail, when you insufflate vaginally do you make a concious effort
to not let the gas escape? Are you pinching to keep it in?
>--------------------------------
>
Jan,
Can you please tell me what the difference is with Peter's
instructions vrs. Saul's for insufflating/baging/sauna? Exactly
what is the difference and why/how did Peter's work when Saul's
didn't. Please be specific so that I might know the difference.
When vaginally insufflating, I cross my legs in an effort not to let
the gas excape.
Thanks,
Gail
Ps. Happy Father's Day to all the Father's out there!
Well, aside from Peter I can't tell you who to go TO, but I can tell you who to steer away from and that's Saul Pressman. I thought I was doing ozone correctly until I started learning what I really should be doing! Now I feel like I'm starting at the beginning again but at least I'll be getting the most out of it this time around. No wonder I wasn't seeing any improvement. Makes all the difference to work with someone who knows!! Thanks Peter.
I don't know about the story of the collapsing veins but doesn't that happen no matter what you are injecting too much of? So, it's probably not the ozone.
Gail, when you insufflate vaginally do you make a concious effort to not let the gas escape? Are you pinching to keep it in?
Also, I'm not sure about 'legal' but as long as no one says too much about IV and advertises it as anti-aging or water purification they get left alone. If it were legal we'd have clinics doing RHP, which would sure be sweet.
--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "dwntwngrl2" <dwntwngrl2@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to do vag. insufflation
> with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
> to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
> the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong? Any
> help is appreciated. thx KC
>
Hi KC,
Preferred ladies only or not. Just that the men don't really seem to
get it.
My favorite method of insufflating is vaginally. But when I first
started doing it, I rashed so much on the inside leg area and
experienced a lot of embarrasing vaginal itching, sometimes
unbearable. I started wrapping the catheter with a wash towel as well
as covering the leg area. This did help somewhat. However, what I
have dicovered to be the most effective way of delivering the ozone
without it causing any unwanted rashing is to simply do away with the
catheter and use the silicone tubing itself. I dip the tubing in a
bottle of peroxide to disinfect (very important) then rub some ozonated
olive oil on the tubing that is to be inserted to allow lubrication and
insert.
It feels to me like this method delivers more ozone than the tiny
catheter, but have been told that this is simply not true by a man. I
have to wonder, how in the world he would know. lol
Ok, here's my theary. I think when I used the catheter, ozone would
somehow seep out at the connecting area causing the rashing. With
using the tubing only method, I am able to avoid any contection
allowing full infiltration with the tubing. More ozone is put into my
body, while none is seeping out.
Now some women might feel a little skimmish using the tubing instead of
the catheter, I don't know. It's up to you. For me, I will never go
back to the catheter.
With vaginal insufflating, you will experience ozone even in your
head. The first time I experienced this, I was amazed! It is a very
effective method of delivery, ozonating the entire body. So much nicer
than a sauna, too, as there is virtually no clean up afterwards.
Sometimes there is an ozone smell in the room when I'm done. I really
don't know how you can completely avoid it. It's certainly not
dangerous as one is not directly inhaling it.
Hope this helps.
Gail
"Imagination is
more important than knowledge.
Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world."
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...you probably can't unless you're certified to handle it or something, and
there's probably a bunch of homeland security issues. why do you need
rocket fuel?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
> Of landangel43
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 10:14 PM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] liquid oxygen
>
>
> where can i get liquid oxygen? landangel43@...
Far be it for me to recommend a
product other than ozone on this group, however I think this one is worth it,
tried it and I think all of you should as well. Yes, I can hear the hooting of
MLM already, however sometimes it is unavoidable, besides you can just buy it
and not get into MLM with it if you like.http://www.holyteaclub.com/ozoneresrch
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Oh! Wonderful Peter. This will be great.
Samala,
Renee
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Already done Renee, I shall try it myself and then send it to our lab in
Malaysia for further testing and of course report what we find.
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Ozone can be somewhat irritating and yes, in higher
concentrations, very high, may be toxic although I have never experienced that.
Ozone should only be bubbled in olive oil as it is easier when doing inhalation
therapy. No, the only real consideration when doing insufflations is the fact
that even good bacteria that is in our body is still bacteria and will be
eliminated with ozone, so it is wise to replenish in whatever manner one
chooses. The answer to your previous question as mentioned to me by one of my
close friends is to either have a fan nearby so that the residual ozone from
your therapy can be blown away from you or to quite simply wrap a towel around
the catheter.
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From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dwntwngrl2 Sent: October-21-07 9:43 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [oxyzone] Re: Breathing ozone during insufflation
My understanding is that ozone is toxic to the
lungs unless bubbled
through olive oil? Am I supposed to be doing that for the
insufflation? I'm not sure how that would work. thanks for your
response. KC
--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com,
"Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic"
<peter@...> wrote:
>
> Please detail how you are doing your therapy and I will try and
endeavour to
> reply with correction. The discomfort in your lungs is temporary and you
> should be able to get used to the fumes after a while. Mind you in some
> cases it will be uncomfortable, however in all cases it is short
lived. The
> cause of this primarily is due to the ozone reacting to every bacterial,
> fungal, etc...component in your breathing tract.
>
>
>
> May God Bless You And Keep You Well
>
>
>
> Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
>
> www.ozoneuniversity.com
>
> www.ozonehospital.com
>
> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
>
> www.medicalozone.info
>
> www.bloodozonation.com
>
> Phone - +1-604-501-6051
>
> Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
>
> Fax - +1-604-592-6051
>
> JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678
>
> Call Free http://www.jaxtr.com/ozoneresearch
>
> Ozone Research Group
>
> Founder
>
> Skype ID - ozoneresearch
>
> Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
>
> Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
>
>
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this
> communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator
thereof.
> This communication contains information, which is private in nature,
> confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use
of the
> intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by
error, or
> have received it by means of interception, please delete the email and
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> is provided with the understanding that the sender of this
information is
> not engaged in rendering legal, accounting or other professional
services.
> If legal advice or other professional assistance is required, the
services
> of a competent professional person should be sought.
>
>
>
> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com]
On
Behalf Of
> dwntwngrl2
> Sent: October-20-07 8:58 PM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] Re: Breathing ozone during insufflation
>
>
>
> Hi, thanks for responding. I'm avoiding breathing it because its
> hurting my lungs and I cant breathe. Is there something I need to do
> so it doesnt do that? thx
>
> --- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Peter
> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic"
> <peter@> wrote:
> >
> > Why are you avoiding breathing ozone?
> >
> >
> >
> > May God Bless You And Keep You Well
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
> >
> > www.ozoneuniversity.com
> >
> > www.ozonehospital.com
> >
> > www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
> >
> > www.medicalozone.info
> >
> > www.bloodozonation.com
> >
> > Phone - +1-604-501-6051
> >
> > Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
> >
> > Fax - +1-604-592-6051
> >
> > JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678
> >
> > Call Free http://www.jaxtr.com/ozoneresearch
> >
> > Ozone Research Group
> >
> > Founder
> >
> > Skype ID - ozoneresearch
> >
> > Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
> >
> > Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
> >
> >
> >
> > WITHOUT PREJUDICE
> >
> > Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this
> > communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator
> thereof.
> > This communication contains information, which is private in nature,
> > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use
> of the
> > intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by
> error, or
> > have received it by means of interception, please delete the email
and
> > destroy any copies of it.The message herein the subject of this
> mailing is
> > designed to provide information in regard to the subject matter
> covered. It
> > is provided with the understanding that the sender of this
> information is
> > not engaged in rendering legal, accounting or other professional
> services.
> > If legal advice or other professional assistance is required, the
> services
> > of a competent professional person should be sought.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > dwntwngrl2
> > Sent: October-20-07 5:09 PM
> > To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [oxyzone] Breathing ozone during insufflation
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to do vag. insufflation
> > with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
> > to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
> > the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong?
Any
> > help is appreciated. thx KC
> >
>
My understanding is that ozone is toxic to the lungs unless bubbled
through olive oil? Am I supposed to be doing that for the
insufflation? I'm not sure how that would work. thanks for your
response. KC
--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic"
<peter@...> wrote:
>
> Please detail how you are doing your therapy and I will try and
endeavour to
> reply with correction. The discomfort in your lungs is temporary and you
> should be able to get used to the fumes after a while. Mind you in some
> cases it will be uncomfortable, however in all cases it is short
lived. The
> cause of this primarily is due to the ozone reacting to every bacterial,
> fungal, etc...component in your breathing tract.
>
>
>
> May God Bless You And Keep You Well
>
>
>
> Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
>
> www.ozoneuniversity.com
>
> www.ozonehospital.com
>
> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
>
> www.medicalozone.info
>
> www.bloodozonation.com
>
> Phone - +1-604-501-6051
>
> Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
>
> Fax - +1-604-592-6051
>
> JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678
>
> Call Free http://www.jaxtr.com/ozoneresearch
>
> Ozone Research Group
>
> Founder
>
> Skype ID - ozoneresearch
>
> Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
>
> Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
>
>
>
> WITHOUT PREJUDICE
>
> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this
> communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator
thereof.
> This communication contains information, which is private in nature,
> confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use
of the
> intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by
error, or
> have received it by means of interception, please delete the email and
> destroy any copies of it.The message herein the subject of this
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> designed to provide information in regard to the subject matter
covered. It
> is provided with the understanding that the sender of this
information is
> not engaged in rendering legal, accounting or other professional
services.
> If legal advice or other professional assistance is required, the
services
> of a competent professional person should be sought.
>
>
>
> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> dwntwngrl2
> Sent: October-20-07 8:58 PM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] Re: Breathing ozone during insufflation
>
>
>
> Hi, thanks for responding. I'm avoiding breathing it because its
> hurting my lungs and I cant breathe. Is there something I need to do
> so it doesnt do that? thx
>
> --- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Peter
> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic"
> <peter@> wrote:
> >
> > Why are you avoiding breathing ozone?
> >
> >
> >
> > May God Bless You And Keep You Well
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
> >
> > www.ozoneuniversity.com
> >
> > www.ozonehospital.com
> >
> > www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
> >
> > www.medicalozone.info
> >
> > www.bloodozonation.com
> >
> > Phone - +1-604-501-6051
> >
> > Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
> >
> > Fax - +1-604-592-6051
> >
> > JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678
> >
> > Call Free http://www.jaxtr.com/ozoneresearch
> >
> > Ozone Research Group
> >
> > Founder
> >
> > Skype ID - ozoneresearch
> >
> > Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
> >
> > Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
> >
> >
> >
> > WITHOUT PREJUDICE
> >
> > Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this
> > communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator
> thereof.
> > This communication contains information, which is private in nature,
> > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use
> of the
> > intended recipient(s). If you have received this communication by
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> > have received it by means of interception, please delete the email and
> > destroy any copies of it.The message herein the subject of this
> mailing is
> > designed to provide information in regard to the subject matter
> covered. It
> > is provided with the understanding that the sender of this
> information is
> > not engaged in rendering legal, accounting or other professional
> services.
> > If legal advice or other professional assistance is required, the
> services
> > of a competent professional person should be sought.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> Behalf Of
> > dwntwngrl2
> > Sent: October-20-07 5:09 PM
> > To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com <mailto:oxyzone%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [oxyzone] Breathing ozone during insufflation
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to do vag. insufflation
> > with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
> > to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
> > the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong? Any
> > help is appreciated. thx KC
> >
>
Please detail how you are doing your therapy and I will try and endeavour
to reply with correction. The discomfort in your lungs is temporary and you
should be able to get used to the fumes after a while. Mind you in some cases
it will be uncomfortable, however in all cases it is short lived. The cause of
this primarily is due to the ozone reacting to every bacterial, fungal,
etc...component in your breathing tract.
Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this communication
does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof. This
communication contains information, which is private in nature, confidential
and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended
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[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dwntwngrl2 Sent: October-20-07 8:58 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [oxyzone] Re: Breathing ozone during insufflation
Hi, thanks for responding. I'm avoiding
breathing it because its
hurting my lungs and I cant breathe. Is there something I need to do
so it doesnt do that? thx
--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com,
"Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic"
<peter@...> wrote:
>
> Why are you avoiding breathing ozone?
>
>
>
> May God Bless You And Keep You Well
>
>
>
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>
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>
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> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com]
On
Behalf Of
> dwntwngrl2
> Sent: October-20-07 5:09 PM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] Breathing ozone during insufflation
>
>
>
> Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to do vag. insufflation
> with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
> to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
> the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong? Any
> help is appreciated. thx KC
>
Hi, thanks for responding. I'm avoiding breathing it because its
hurting my lungs and I cant breathe. Is there something I need to do
so it doesnt do that? thx
--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic"
<peter@...> wrote:
>
> Why are you avoiding breathing ozone?
>
>
>
> May God Bless You And Keep You Well
>
>
>
> Peter (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic
>
> www.ozoneuniversity.com
>
> www.ozonehospital.com
>
> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com
>
> www.medicalozone.info
>
> www.bloodozonation.com
>
> Phone - +1-604-501-6051
>
> Phone - UK (44) +2071007016
>
> Fax - +1-604-592-6051
>
> JOIP/GLOBALRANGE - #1011004678
>
> Call Free http://www.jaxtr.com/ozoneresearch
>
> Ozone Research Group
>
> Founder
>
> Skype ID - ozoneresearch
>
> Yahoo ID - humansafe2001
>
> Yahoo Group Owner - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oxyzone
>
>
>
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>
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> From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> dwntwngrl2
> Sent: October-20-07 5:09 PM
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [oxyzone] Breathing ozone during insufflation
>
>
>
> Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to do vag. insufflation
> with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
> to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
> the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong? Any
> help is appreciated. thx KC
>
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From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dwntwngrl2 Sent: October-20-07 5:09 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [oxyzone] Breathing ozone during insufflation
Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to
do vag. insufflation
with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong? Any
help is appreciated. thx KC
Hi All, I'm very new at this. I am wanting to do vag. insufflation
with an ozone generator and oxygen concentrator. What is the best way
to do this to avoid breathing ozone? I did try it and it seemed that
the ozone was being released into the room. What am I doing wrong? Any
help is appreciated. thx KC
Hello,
To Peter or anybody else who can help... it is claimed that Ozone can
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Developmental Stuttering, which is likely only partly neurological? I
have moderately severe stuttering and hope Ozone could help. ANYBODY
who has ANY knowledge on this please respond. Thanks,
Daniel
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Hello,
To Peter or anybody else who can help... it is claimed that Ozone can
help or even cure just about any disorder... but could it work for
Developmental Stuttering, which is likely only partly neurological? I
have moderately severe stuttering and hope Ozone could help. ANYBODY
who has ANY knowledge on this please respond. Thanks,
Daniel
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From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com [mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Alexeev Sent: August-29-07 10:06 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [oxyzone] What material can absorb unwanted ozone?
I have a high voltage discharge, which generates small amounts of ozone. Ozone corrodes the internals of the instrument. I can't vent the ozone out, so I'd like to absorb the ozone somehow.
Thanks in advance! I appreciate any insight!
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From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Alexeev Sent: August-29-07 10:06 PM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [oxyzone] What material can absorb unwanted ozone?
I have a high voltage discharge, which
generates small amounts of
ozone. Ozone corrodes the internals of the instrument. I can't vent
the ozone out, so I'd like to absorb the ozone somehow.
I have a high voltage discharge, which generates small amounts of
ozone. Ozone corrodes the internals of the instrument. I can't vent
the ozone out, so I'd like to absorb the ozone somehow.
Thanks in advance! I appreciate any insight!
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From: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:oxyzone@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Arrow Sent: August-24-07 11:23 AM To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Subject: [oxyzone] Ozone practitioner in Ontario Canada?
Looking for an ozone practitioner in Ontario
Canada or a UVB facilitator.
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