Dr. Howard,

It really is nice to have a real doctor in the group. So many people on these
forum play doctor, and will even imply doctor, when they are not at all.

Thanks for you input.

People will often get desperate when very ill.

Gail
-- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINS <howardrobins@...> wrote:
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> Once again, IT IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO GET TO GET "AIR" IN YOUR BLOOD. THE
NITROGEN CAN AGGLUTINATE (FORM A BIG BUBBLE) AND KILL YOU. IT CAN KILL YOU. ONLY
AN INSANE PERSON WOULD TAKE THIS RISK. I DON'T CARE HOW MANY TIMES YOU SURVIVE
THIS MISTAKE, IT'S WRONG TO DO IT AND IT'S WRONG TO ADVISE ANYONE THAT "IT'S
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> It's talk like this that makes me feel that maybe, just maybe, Dr Bocci is
correct about Direct Iv. ONly trained medical professionals should ever do it.
> PLEASE BE CAREFUL, AS SMOKEY THE BEAR ONCE SAID "THE LIFE YOU SAVE MAY BE YOUR
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> Subject: [oxyzone] Re: direct IV
> To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com
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calm any fears some of you may have. I have only done it 5 times now, and have
probably made many mistakes, but the one I'm going to talk about here is this.
On my third application I accidentally forgot to turn on the regulator, I have
since put up a procedure list to check off. So I filled the syringe with 10cc's
of ambient air. I pushed it in and thought something was funny as the vein got
very large. As I was turning everything off I saw what I had done and got a bit
fearful from hearing all the talk of embolisms. I waited an hour or so and
nothing, absolutely nothing happened. So I investigated a few pathologists
sites and found out that to cause an embolism one must inject at least 200 cc's
of air. Which of course there aren't even syringes that large. I would never
do that again, but if it were to happen I wouldn't have the fear I did that day.
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