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Re: Skin rash after ozone sauna (CFS patient)

--- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, "andre_ligthart" <ligtharta@...> wrote:
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> I suspect that I can get used to this therapy, but it takes a lot of patience,
a lot of bad skin for a long time and a lot of itching. I am not sure if it is
worth while trying.
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> I am very curious if someone can help me interpreting this results.
> Please share!
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Hi Andre,

I also have cfs and also had extensive rashing when doing ozone saunas. It took
4 years to get to the point of not rashing, and no I do not think it is worth
it. For me ozone made me feel better but did not cure the cfs. It does give
energy, tho. Try and find something that will increase your energy without
causing the unbearable rahing. You can do that by only doing a 5 minute sauna
once a week and increase when you no longer rash from that. You can also
increase energy by drinking ozonated water. You can also take activated
charcoal before doing a sauna. It will greatly decrease the rashing.

I do believe it is from the toxins. Dr. Chenney (an cfs expert) says our liver
does not process the toxins like a regular person does, thus he says we are like
a canary trapped in a cage. But you can do things to help the liver detox, and
that is what I would concentrate on. Do some liver cleanses, take milk thistle.
It does seem like people who's detox pathways are compromised have more rashing
than those that don't have compromised pathways.

Also, gluten products have a very negative effect on us. Does horrible things
to our brains and gives one a very wasted feeling. Some have recovered simply
from stopping all gluten products. It does take about a year to heal the gut
from their effects, tho, so be patient.

Concentrate on healthing the gut/liver and use the ozone as a complimentry
protocol, but don't put torture yourself by over ozoning. This is truly the
time where slower is faster. And if you don't take the precautions to heal the
gut and liver, no amount of ozone is going to cause lasting benefits, imho.

Supplements that I have found to be very helpful are:

Magnesium orotates as well as calcium, flaxseed oil, digestive enzymes, royal
jelly, b-12 injections (pills don't seems to do much of anything but the shots
work great), pycnogenol, vitamin C. A good mineral drink is also very
beneficial. I use fluvic mineral complex. It's great.

People with cfs are usually deficient of nutrients due to the gut not working
correctly. Also the adrenals will be effected when one is chronically sick, so
C, Bs, magesium, and sea salt are a must. Some also have good results with raw
bovine adrenals.

You can regain your health, but I have not found a cure. It seems to be
something that can be managed with the above methods. Don't ever go off your
supplements, avoid stresses, and know that you simply have to pace yourself so
as not to relapse. Take note of the energy suckers in your life and avoid; or,
if possible, remove them from your life althogether. You really are in a battle
for your health, and I have not found that people are understanding of just how
very sick you are. If you do not take of yourself, you will find you will not
only be in a battle for your health, but also for your life!

Do take care and remember, easy does it.

Gail




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Have you done any liver flushes? ... From: andre_ligthart To: oxyzone@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: [oxyzone] Skin rash after...
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... Hi Andre, I also have cfs and also had extensive rashing when doing ozone saunas. It took 4 years to get to the point of not rashing, and no I do not...
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I need to put a disclaimer here I think.... Something like the opinions expressed here do in no way reflect the opinion of the people responsible for this...
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May I ask what you don't agree with about what I said? Just curious. Gail...
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Gail: I have learned that I should stay out of what you all have to say to each other but remind everyone that the beliefs of others are not necessarily true...
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... As far as my ... Yeah, but you took my comment out of context. Above is what I said, and if you noticed I ended with 'imho'. For those that don't know,...
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Just didn't like the sound of the paragraph but protect your right to say it...thank you for clarifying. May God Bless You And Keep You Well Peter (Professor...
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Don't forget to do a series of liver cleanses to clear detox pathways which can also reduce/eliminate the rashing. Many people with a lifelong of accumulation...
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Thanks Paul for your info. I will indeed need to do more liver cleanses and more rectal insufflations... When you (or others) mention 'liver cleanse', do you...
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Thanks Gail for your info. Many of the things you suggested I have already tried and I am still doing many of them. I am not working anymore and have no real...
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Hi Andre, I don't know about the parasite, but I would certainly do everything your doctor is suggesting to rid yourself of it. As far as the lessions on the...
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... Well, my quality of life is very low indeed... I feel and suspect that ozone RHP could help me. But indeed I miss the words from other CFS patients with...
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... Hello again, Andre. From my little understanding of ozone I suspect it is a very great method of ridding the body of toxin build up. However, ultimately...
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Hi Gail, Thanks for your extensive reaction on my posting. I have done a few more liver flushes now. After the liver flush, besides the green stones, I get a...
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Hi Andre, My guess would be it is what Clark refers to as 'chaff'. According to her it is as important to rid the body of it as the stones. Again, I'm only...
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Hi Gail, Thanks four response. Now I know it is called 'chaff'. My chaff was not completely white either. It was sometimes near-white and sometimes more beige...
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i've read that ear insufflation of ozone gets the ozone to the brain, and is supposed to be effective in dealing with brain tumors. if that's true, that might...
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... I have tried ear insufflation for a long time. But I get extreme dripping and irritated ears after only 20 seconds of insufflation at the lowest ozone...
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it looks like the single-dose med needs to be repeated annually? in digging around, i found a write-up on quackwatch (yeah, i know...) about h.clark and her...
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With ALL due respect I would run like Forrest Gump away from quackwatch and the man than does the site.  He thinks supplements are quack and ozone. ... From:...
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that's why i said "yeah, in know..." and i basically agree, but everything there isn't garbage at all, it pays to understand as many sidess of this as ...
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Another PS.  My zapper did nothing for me except cause heart palps.  It's now sitting in a drawer.  (sigh) ... From: bob Larson <bobList@...> ...
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Please read what I posted about the kryptopyrroluria that Dr. K is testing all his CFS patients for. ... From: andre_ligthart <ligtharta@...> Subject:...
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wikipedia only show pyroluria as part of an entry for orthomolecular psychiatry, which isn't a positive writeup: ...
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wikipedia only show pyroluria as part of an entry for orthomolecular psychiatry, which isn't a positive writeup: ...
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That's one point of view and of course the article did state that.  My nephew, who has bi-polor was examined twice by the Pfeiffer Institute and he difinetly...
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... Andre, The more I thought about your parasitic infection, the more I think trying the salt/c protocol might help. It is also suppose to be able to cross...
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ps. Egg yolk lectihin is very brain friendly. might like to give it a try. not a cure but does help brain function. gail...
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... Hi Gail, Thanks. I will try the salt/c protocol and do more liver stuff. Today I am doing a new liver flush by the way......
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