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Good. Please make sure not to remove his/this post referencing his name, should I ever need the serivces/advice of a Dr. that is familiar with the IV protocol.
Peter Professor Ozone Jovanovic <peter@...> wrote:
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Peter Professor Ozone Jovanovic <peter@...> wrote:
I have asked that we change the title of this thread and it continues, so I am afraid that I am going to have to do it myself...
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Subject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco Artist
Dennis Lipter <blackcat54@...> wrote:Dr Robbins,Do you include ozone sauna as a relatively ineffective home care method?I was under the impression that the ozone sauna is quite powerful.Thanks,dlipter----- Original Message -----From: DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINSSent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 7:02 AMSubject: Re: [oxyzone] Re: Beware of Peter "Professor Ozone" - Scammer and Bunco Artist
wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:Hello Doctor Howard, Peter, & all,
I was wanting to respond to your post for several reasons. Although
it's kind of hard to respond to a person that isn't even on the
list. Guess you will have to forward my response to him yourself if
you so desire. It looks like he sent you the message about Peter
privately and then you forwarded it to the list, correct?
If I am not being too forward may I ask what type of doctor you are
since one of the subject matter is titles?
Responses below in text.
-- In oxyzone@yahoogroups.com, DOCTOR HOWARD ROBINS
<howardrobins@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, I am Dr Howard Robins and I have been doing intravenous
ozone therapy for the last 18 years in NYC. Because the governments
in north america are against the using of ozone for medical purposes
it is necessary to be extremely careful when discussing the use and
sale of equipment for those purposes (or you may go to jail). It is
legal in New York State because of Dr Robert Akins (the diet dr). It
is not legal anywhere else in NA.
*** This was one of the reasons I was so excited to respond to you.
I googled 'ozone clinics in the Unites States' and got a wealth of
information. They are all over the place. Since I live in Arizona,
I checked out my state. There's some in Phoenix, Tucson, Scottsdale,
Yuma, all over. I was very excited!
*** You mentioned legality. These clinics are run by licensed MD's,
DO's, N.M.D's and such. There's nothing illegal about any of it.
Now I don't know what all types of therapies they administer but
listed was, 'ultraviolet blood irradiation therapy, ozone therapy,
far infrared sauna, and the likes. I'm really impressed and happy!
It's now legal here in the STATES! YEAH!
Why I received your e-mail is a mystery to me as I am not currently
on any chat groups that I know of,
*** Uh, then why are you sending it to this list?
>
> mix7401 <mix7401@...> wrote:
Again, responses within text, but I feel kind of like I'm talking to
a ghost. How will he ever get my reply to him? gail
> I want the people in this group to read the emails I
exchanged with
> Peter Jovanovic. Peter, as you all know, has generously given
himself
> the title of "Professor Ozone."
*** The title 'professor' means, "a teacher of the highest rank in a
university or college", but it also means, "one who professes skill
and offers instruction in some sport or art." I don't know for a
fact if there is even such a thing as an ozone university so I have
always assumed his title was refering to his skills in ozone
therapies. Why not just ask him HIS reasoning for using the
term 'professor'?
>
> Does anyone else here find an eerie similarity with Ed McCabe - Mr.
> Oxygen?
**** It doesn't seem errie at all to me. I think they might even be
friends. BTW, do you also have some discomforter in Ed McCabe using
the title "Mr. Oxygen"? Just curious.
>
> I personally think our good friend Peter took a look at Ed McCabe,
an
> author and respected authority on oxygen therapies, and decided he
> too could invent an authoritative title for himself. The difference
> is that Peter has no credentials and is neither an author, doctor,
or
> professor.
*** Well, that is only your opinion, ofcourse. I will agree with
those that use titles implying they are something more than what they
are as being disceptive, but I just don't have any feelings about
that towards Peter. The term professor just never bothered me. If
that's the only thing you have against him, you might want to take a
closer look.
>
> The only thing I have found supporting Peter's credentials
> are "testimonies" (sic) which have a writing style strikingly
similar
> to his. Just a coincidence?
*** Again, what 'credentials'? Ask the man about it first before you
go spouting off.
>
> I want to be clear that I'm not attacking Peter because I don't
like
> him. I actually don't hate him. I feel sorry for him. He probably
is
> really desperate for money. I have seen posts on the internet to
that
> effect.
*** It really does sound like an attack. To me, it sounds a little
like hitting below the belt. I really don't know why you did it.
And personally, I think peoples' money business is their private
business and none of mine.
>
> But I don't want him taking advantage of the sick and the weak.
*** There are so many in the alternative field that so often will
say, "You are responsible for your own health, or take your health
into your own hands, etc." The sick and weak are always vulnerable,
but I haven't seen Peter taking advantage of that. BE specific or be
quiet. Like I said it sounds like you are hitting below the belt.
>
> BTW, ozone is a powerful solution for many illnesses. However, I
> would think twice before putting my trust in Peter.
*** Ozone is powerful, but from my experience with it, I have found
it to also have it's limits. That's been my experience anyway. Most
protocols will include other methods of detoxing as well as
exercising, eating, etc. that are equally important. One really
can't expect ozone to be the 'be all'.
*** I think that after doing one's own homework, one can decide whom
they will or will not put their trust in all by themself. It does
take some time, tho, learning who one can trust, and will often learn
lessons the hard way.
>
>
> You need to tell me what products/services you are
> offering before asking me to start sending my personal
> medical history.
>
>*** I cut out the rest of the correspondence because it was getting
so long. But what I will say is I think everybody really has to do
some leg work researching the various protocols themself. I do agree
about wanting to know what Peter is offering before divulging any
personal medical history. Some people are very private with some
illnesses such as HIV due to social prejudices. BTW, you can get
your own records released to yourself but will usually have to sign a
release form. There needs to be a give and take of both parties, imo.
*** There have been some really ugly activities thay have gone on in
the ozone world; it's actually sad to say. The war between some of
the competitors is frankly quite sickening. And once having been
burned, one will never be the same, making that person older, wiser,
and much more cautious. However, all that comes with experience.
*** So in conclusion, ozone is good. Do some homework before
deciding if it is the route you want to go. There is a wealth of
information on the net.
Truth always has a way of coming to the surfice. It's only a matter
of time. I do not think Peter is a scammer. That's my opinion. I
think he does a lot of good. However, I still say ozone is simply
not the cure all people so often want it to be.
Take care,
Gail
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