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Hello group, my name is Dan and I wish to share a new website,
www.nursegroups.com, that has launched to aid all nurses (and Student
Nurses!) in networking.  Membership for the site is completely free &
always will be.  There will never be any charge for anything, & it
offers increased networking functionality.  Members can easily set up
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There is also a live chat feature.  It our hopes that nurses will
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Thank you for your time, we hope to see you at www.NurseGroups.com!

I will be going into my last semester aug 15,2005  i will graduate dec 2005
I'm getting my lvn.  maybe i will go for my rn, don't no.  i am not in nursing
for the money.  i'm going into is for teh caring, fullfillment, compassions
and nurturing.  If I am happy with what I do, I am satified with what money i
make and can live comfortably with in my means, I am going to stay there.
Kris
Waverville, cA


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kris, ur from cali too!! can i ask you where you went to get ur lvn or
rn program or even if u got ur bsn from? i have been searching and i
dontknow where to find any...

also to those who had replied to my previous msg, i just want to thank
you all...believe me, you guys have helped me. also about the comment
someone made about not going into nursing just for the money, i'd like
to say that its not the money im doing this for, and the person who
said that if someone went into nursing for the money, then its not a
big deal or something like that, ur right! you know what, no one
really would want to become a nurse if all they have to do is dirty
work and getting paid nothing. i for one am going into nursing because
i get a sense of fulfilment when i help others, and alos when my
mother was diagnosed with breast cancer and leukemia, the only people
who i saw stand by her (other than us) were the nurses. they were by
her more than the doctors. unfortunatley, she did pass away 12 years
ago, and i still will never forget the people who were always by her
side.
--- In nursingstudents@yahoogroups.com, ksangelkiss@a... wrote:
> i live in california would i be any help for you? i'm kris
>
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i live in california would i be any help for you? i'm kris


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Hey,

I am Suzanne and I am looking for a nurse sudent who lives outside the
Netherlands. I must do a exersise for school. So I have to talk and
chat (it is like a interview). I hope somebody will reply. Maybe we
will be friends.

Lots of love Suzanne.

I agree that cna's are grossly underpaid thats why we treat ours like royalty

as for why a nurse should or shouldnt go into the field, we all have our
opinions and I will leave it at that.

mm

cc <belcanto@...> wrote:
Our CNA program was four weeks.  It is just one class--Basic Nursing I.
There was no interview required for the class.

I agree completely that CNAs are valuable and that they are caring and
competent individuals.  However, they don't get paid what they're worth.

I don't necessarily agree with this statement: "If your true reason for
getting into the career is money then I will tell you without hesitation
that you need to look elsewhere."

Many of our nurses would not be in the profession if it weren't for the
money.  Let's not kid ourselves here.  Of course, you have to like what
you do, at least a little bit, but come on!

There was a big brouhaha over this several months ago on this list (or
another list).  It bugs me to no end when people criticize nurses
because one of their motivations for going into the profession was
needing a steady job with a good income.  It's This doesn't mean that
they aren't caring people, or that they aren't good at their jobs.

As one of those who are definitely going into this for the money, I
truly resent comments such as that above.  I don't want to work at
Wal-Mart, the only other option around here.  This doesn't mean that I'm
not a good nurse or a caring person.  But if nursing only paid $8.00 per
hour, I wouldn't be one.  That's reality, folks.

Carla C
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: The Music Man

   "CNA's don't get the accolades they deserve."
   Programs...

   "If your true reason for getting into the career is money then I will
tell you without hesitation that you need to look elsewhere. With time,
you will tire of the field and the money wont seem worth the
requirements of the job.  Like a poster stated earlier...if u have a
caring attitude and truly love medicine and want to help ppl then give
it shot."


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Our CNA program was four weeks.  It is just one class--Basic Nursing I.
There was no interview required for the class.

I agree completely that CNAs are valuable and that they are caring and
competent individuals.  However, they don't get paid what they're worth.

I don't necessarily agree with this statement: "If your true reason for
getting into the career is money then I will tell you without hesitation
that you need to look elsewhere."

Many of our nurses would not be in the profession if it weren't for the
money.  Let's not kid ourselves here.  Of course, you have to like what
you do, at least a little bit, but come on!

There was a big brouhaha over this several months ago on this list (or
another list).  It bugs me to no end when people criticize nurses
because one of their motivations for going into the profession was
needing a steady job with a good income.  It's This doesn't mean that
they aren't caring people, or that they aren't good at their jobs.

As one of those who are definitely going into this for the money, I
truly resent comments such as that above.  I don't want to work at
Wal-Mart, the only other option around here.  This doesn't mean that I'm
not a good nurse or a caring person.  But if nursing only paid $8.00 per
hour, I wouldn't be one.  That's reality, folks.

Carla C
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: The Music Man

   "CNA's don't get the accolades they deserve."
   Programs...

   "If your true reason for getting into the career is money then I will
tell you without hesitation that you need to look elsewhere. With time,
you will tire of the field and the money wont seem worth the
requirements of the job.  Like a poster stated earlier...if u have a
caring attitude and truly love medicine and want to help ppl then give
it shot."


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First of all, let me apologize for the font of this message...I have meds in my
eyes and they are kind of blurry.

Let me comment on a few things:
CNA's.....

CNA's don't get the accolades they deserve. They do a lot of good work and work
very hard to help their patients. We have two CNA's that don't know it yet, but
we have set a fund that we put money in every paycheck. Come spring, they are
going to be surprised when we hand each one half their tuition for nursing
school.  If you can afford to work at a CNA's salary and support yourself and
your family, it may be in your best interest to do so. This experience will give
you a chance to be in the hospital setting and observe what nurses and docs do.
Sometimes just being in the hospital/nursing home setting can make the decision
as to whether you want to be in this field. If you cant afford to be an CNA and
want to pursue ur license, thats ok too cause the first two to three weeks of
clinical you are doing CNA work anyway and if you are in a program like I was
in, everyday of clinical will be CNA and nursing combined.

Programs...

There are different avenues you can choose for your training. You can take the
college route with the end result being a BS in Nursing. You can choose the
junior college route with the end result being an LVN or RN license depending on
whether the college offers and RN transition. You could also look into the
technical schools. The problem you will run into with technical schools is that
there arent that many that offer an RN transition program. The good thing is
that These schools are sometimes in good with the colleges and have a good
relationship for their students to pursue the RN education at the school. Also,
with the technical schools, you dont have the prerequisites that the junior
colleges have BUT (there is always a but) if u seek to join their program, they
may make u acquire those prereq's. The best way to choose a program, is too talk
to nurses. If they work at a hospital, they more than likely have entertained
the nursing students from a few programs during clinicals
  and preceptorship. They can tell you which program seemed more with it compared
to others. Also...if u know anyone that was in the hospital ask them about their
nursing experience and if they know the name of their nurse. Go to that nurse
and ask what program they graduated from.  Most programs have a wall of honor at
their school, visit it and see if they graduate big classes or abnormally small
ones. Some where between 19 and 40 graduating students is average. You can also
call the school and ask how many students graduated or passed their NCLEX most
department heads will be more than happy to brag. You can also go the state
board of nursing and ask questions

The Big Decision.....
I think one of the things ppl whom are considering nursing school should do is
sit down and be completely honest with themselves as to why they want to pursue
nursing as a career.  If your true reason for getting into the career is money
then I will tell you without hesitation that you need to look elsewhere. With
time, you will tire of the field and the money wont seem worth the requirements
of the job.  Like a poster stated earlier...if u have a caring attitude and
truly love medicine and want to help ppl then give it shot. That's the whole
advantage to being a CNA. There are CNA programs wherein you are done in 4-6
months. Most programs have an interview process with there programs and there
are two questions that they will ask you. I havent heard of a program with an
interview process that havent asked them.  Ppl that are in it for the money will
give a particular answer and usually dont get in.

I do agree with the poster about changing the path of ones future. If you have
to work at the local burger joint while you go to school that is fine. Just take
a look at your life and ask yourself is you want to be in your current situation
five years from now.

Look forward to comments...

MM



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what it takes. The bottom line is to do SOMETHING to change the course of the
future or you will be destined to McDonalds for life!  It's really up to  you.


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So work at McDonalds while you go to school to become a nurse...if that's
what it takes. The bottom line is to do SOMETHING to change the course of the
future or you will be destined to McDonalds for life!  It's really up to  you.


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That would be great advice if a person could support themselves and
their family on a CNA salary.  Around here, you can make more working at
McDonald's than you can as a CNA.

Carla C
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   From: PEGGY
   To: nursingstudents@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 12:10 PM
   Subject: RE: [Nursing students] Re: LVN program


   I totally agree.

   I am a CNA and I am taking everything with baby steps as I am a single
mom.
   I am in LPN school now, and I am looking forward to RN school.

   My biggest suggestion to anyone who want to be a nurse is to become a
CNA
   first to "test" the waters and know exactly what you maybe getting
into.

   I have found being a CNA has helped me a great deal in school because
the
   RN's and LPN's help you to understand what you may be studying.

   This may not be the case in all setting, but I work at a wonderful
hospital
   which really pushes the staff to be the best they can be.

   Peggy
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I totally agree.

I am a CNA and I am taking everything with baby steps as I am a single mom.
I am in LPN school now, and I am looking forward to RN school.

My biggest suggestion to anyone who want to be a nurse is to become a CNA
first to "test" the waters and know exactly what you maybe getting into.

I have found being a CNA has helped me a great deal in school because the
RN's and LPN's help you to understand what you may be studying.

This may not be the case in all setting, but I work at a wonderful hospital
which really pushes the staff to be the best they can be.

Peggy
Denver, CO

Unfortunately some people go into nursing just because you can make a VERY
good salary. They don't CARE about people/patients. They don't have the desire
to HELP people get through tough situations. Nursing is all about caring for
people. Yes, on occasion you do have to do dirty jobs but that's what helping
  sick people is all about. You also get to work with doctors and RN's who are
  trying to diagnose what the heck is really going on with someone and put a
great  treatment (Rx) plan in place. Once you have the right Rx plan , you
begin to see  that sick person get better and you know YOU were a part of making
that happen.  Nursing is wonderful but its not easy. If you are a helper by
nature you are  probably well suited. If you are doing it just to make money..
don't sign up!

In any case, if you do decide to start on this path try to dedicate  yourself
to going on and becoming an RN... that's where you will really truly  feel
like what you do matters. Your LVN will allow you to start working as a  nurse
while you continue your education.

Good luck to you as you make your decision. If you would like to continue
chatting just email me again. I am a home care administrator and have worked as
a nurse for 35 years.


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i am from cali...i know of 3 schools here for lvns, oh and by the
way i realized something...only california and texas use the
phrase "lvn," the rest use lpn. but back to what i was saying, yes
im from california and the school that i have chosen to go to is
called cni-career network institution. they are approved by the
board of vocational nursing and psychiatric techs, also they are
accredited byt the ABHES, and some other stuff...i have their
website, but it not a detailed one...here it it:
http://www.californianursingschool.com/ can someone go to it when
they have time and see if its good? i mean i know its up to me and
everything, but what do U guys think of it? oh and about it being
tough, i heard that too, but im not worried that much, because i
will be devoting all my time to this program. i just first want to
know about becoming a lvn, because i am not sure if this girl i was
talking to was trying to gross me out from the program or what, but
she told me that basically what lvns do are, they give old people
baths, clean poop/vomit off the floor and just dirty things like
that...i know that lvns have to do that sometimes if working with
older patients, but do the lvns only work with seniors? i thought we
could do pediatrics too and help the pediatricians... if anyone
knows more info pls post :)

thanks all!

LPN/LVN programs are generally a great start into nursing. Be careful about
the program you choose though. Accreditation is important. Most are 11 to 13
month programs. They are usually pretty tough. I recommend the Holden Health
Career/College program to people on the east coast. Where are you  from?


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Hello from Oklahoma. Here you have to work under Rn
but I worked in nursing home and Rn was just on call
at evening and night shifts.  You have to be Rn to
Hang tranfusions but LPN can monitor and assess I
beleive. RN writes care plans also. Have been LPN for
eight years in Oklahoma new grads LPN or RN are in
demand check out your state employment office they can
probaboy give you some idea for your state also your
sate board may be able to help you.


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useful info

We should support this
website by posting our resumes here.

It says this on the home page of the site:

Get paid to let companies view your resume
whether you are looking for a job or not.


www.JobOla.biz

Most job sites do NOT pay resume posters.

These guys are on our side.

Maybe someone should write an article on these guys.

LVN's administer care like an RN does except there are things that an RN can do
that an LVN can't do. On the floor, you work under and RN. The RN makes more
money than an LVN.  Now I just graduated from an LVN program last summer. I had
heard rumors that LVN's were being phased out. Won't vouch for whether that is
true or not but I can tell you that I wanted to move to dallas and was shocked
at the fact that no one wanted to hire me. Now to there defense, I didnt have
any experience but the question I have for the healthcare organizations is
this....Why are you bitching about not having any nurses when you have all these
LVN's needing a job. IF you can find an RN program, it may be to your benefit to
just go that route and spare yourself the heartache unless you have a hook up
already. There are good days in nursing and bad days in nursing...it all evens
out.
want to know more...look me up in messenger under woundedangel99
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mn4ever0410 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
hey you guys...i just had a quick question about lvns...
i just wanted to know what exactly they do.
i was thinking about going to a tech school that has that program
which takes 1 year to finish...is that a good idea? are the classes
moderate or hard? also do you guys have any suggestions for me? pls
email me or reply, i look forward into hearing from u guys and alos
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hey you guys...i just had a quick question about lvns...
i just wanted to know what exactly they do.
i was thinking about going to a tech school that has that program
which takes 1 year to finish...is that a good idea? are the classes
moderate or hard? also do you guys have any suggestions for me? pls
email me or reply, i look forward into hearing from u guys and alos
thanks in advance!! :)

If you have a practice CD (they come with NCLEX-review books), use those
to do practice questions.   Review your weakest areas.  Review your lab
values, so you know (at least approximately) the "normal" ranges.  If
you have time, look over the main drugs for each system/condition, and
their main side effects.   Also, you might want to look at approximate
dosages, and take note of any that are generally very small or very
large.

Carla C
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   Subject: [Nursing students] NCLEX-RN


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HELP TAKING NCLEX JUNE 17 HAVENT STARTED STUDYING YET. ANY TIPS?

Hello all! I am a LVN working in a small community hospital in north
texas. I enjoy being a nurse! Just saying hello to all you fellow
nurses!

I have a new webforum dedicated to nursing professions and nursing
students (or those aspiring to be nurses). Please come by and visit!

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HI EVERYONE HAVENT POSTED IN PROBABLY A YEAR. I HAVE BEEN BUSY
COMPLETING THE LPN TO RN PROGRAM. IM ALMOST FINISH AND WILL GRADUATE IN
MAY. WE ACTUALLY FINISHED CLASS IN MARCH EVERYONE PASSED THEN WE HAD
TWO WEEKS OF WHAT THEY CALL SPECIALITY AREAS FOR CLINICALS THEN WE HAVE
TO COMPLETE 142 HOURS OF PRECEPTING WITH AN RN. I JUST HAD AN INTERVIEW
TODAY AND IT WENT WELL. THE OFFERED ME A BASE PAY OF 18.36 INSTEAD OF
18.00 THAT REGULAR NEW GRADS GET CAUSE IM ALREADY AN LPN. DID I MENTION
I ACTUALLY MAKE 18.54 AS A LPN IN A NURSING HOME. BUT ITS OK I NEED A
CHANGE. AND ITS NOT ALL THAT BAD THEY GOT 2.50 SHIFT DIF FOR SECOND
3.00 FOR THIRD AND 2.00 FOR WEEKEND.ALSO I JUST GOT WORD THAT I WAS
ACCEPTED TO AN ONLINE RN TO BSN PROGRAM IM SO EXCITED MY LIFE IS NOW
GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I WOULD LIKE TO HERE FROM OTHER FUTURE
NEW GRADUATES

I am looking to buy an Excelsior College CPNE Workshop Booklet.
If you have one to sell pls email me at debatorenco@...
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From what I understand it is an "up to date" news
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This seems to be the norm for all the hospital I work.
(I am an agency aide/nursing student.) they do try
their best to get us to atleast lunch.  It just those
darn lights, docs, med passes, etc won't wait for us
to take a break.

Peggy
Denver, CO
--- Ken Steinberg <llpn@...> wrote:
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> Workers at San Diego's Children's Hospital Take
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> Seeks Remedy for
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>
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>
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