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RE: Seat Belt Laws

See, I knew I was missing something. When you clarified it, it made more sense to me. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

But, George, I did read the whole sentence; in fact, I read it and reread it several times to try to see what I was missing. I do try to not jump to conclusions.

 

In my more cynical moments, I would like to see cyclists who decline helmets be required to either 1) put up $500K for their immediate care and as much rehab as that will cover or 2) sign a statement accepting responsibility for making such a poor decision and be put on a “Do Not Treat” list in case of an accident (of course, then we’ll lose too many of our organ donors, so we’ll have to think that through).

 

Obviously, this isn’t the answer. But then, wearing a motorcycle helmet sort of becomes a societal responsibility, rather than a personal right. Plenty of precedents (safety vs. personal preference) have been set and this is one that would be easy to see if it were being followed.

 

I think as nurses, many of us have seen firsthand the end-results of cyclists without helmets in accidents or folks in MVAs who didn’t have their seat belts fastened.

 

Mary

 


From: nursebob@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nursebob@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:14 PM
To: nursebob@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Seat Belt Laws

 




You didn't read the whole sentence..
 
It said, "Seat belts will not protect you from injury if it comes to you"
seat belts stop you from coming to it.
 
meaning, if something flys at you (glass, other car parts) or hits you (side
of door or window), seatbelts won't protect you, in that instance, airbags
will help (if deployed).
 
The gist of the post was you need BOTH, airbags and seatbelts.
airbags to protect you at the impact time, and seatbelts to keep
you in place after the airbags deflate (while the car is still moving not
under your control).
 
As for the helmet laws, I have no idea why some states repealed them,
  and/or some do require them.
 
What would be interesting is if the states that have no helmet law, have
a law requiring children to wear helmets on bicycles. Have them explain that one.

 


To: nursebob@yahoogroups.com
From: mkendra@infoPACS.com
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:59:19 -0400
Subject: RE: Seat Belt Laws

 

Hi, George,

 

I’m a little confused, because the 1st sentence below and the last sentence seem to contradict each other. Are you saying that seatbelts have no protective properties? If so, I must disagree. Because I can tell you that 1) airbags only get activated in specific circumstances, certainly not even close to every accident and 2) just by hearing the injuries sustained, anyone in ER/trauma can guess whether the person was restrained or not.

 

Seatbelts most absolutely protect you from injury.

 

This time, it’s not even my opinion. There are many examples and studies that prove this.

 

Mary

 


From: nursebob@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nursebob@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 3:23 PM
To: nursebob@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Seat Belt Laws

 



... Seatbelts... will not protect you from injury if it comes to you. For that, we have airbags, but they only last for seconds, then deflate. For people who confuse airbags and think seatbelts are not needed, after the airbags deflate there will be nothing to keep you in the seat (or car), if it's still in motion.

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In SC right now there is a big push on about seat belts, but motorcycle riders don't have to wear a helmet. Am I crazy, or is one just as dangerous as the...
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Helmets and Seatbelts do different functions. Helmets are made to protect you from impact after an accident. Of course, the type of helmet matters as well. One...
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My point is not that they do different functions, but that they are both protective devices, and that if the law enforces one, they should be able to enforce...
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Hi, George, I'm a little confused, because the 1st sentence below and the last sentence seem to contradict each other. Are you saying that seatbelts have no ...
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You didn't read the whole sentence.. It said, "Seat belts will not protect you from injury if it comes to you" seat belts stop you from coming to it. meaning,...
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See, I knew I was missing something. When you clarified it, it made more sense to me. Thanks for clearing it up. But, George, I did read the whole sentence; in...
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