In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:37:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, mom24boyz@... writes:
He has Pulmonary Valve Stenosis as well as Wolffe-Parkinson-White Syndrome (WPW), I
Hi
To the woman whose son Ryan will be having surgery for PVS. I am on this group because I THINK I have Noonans. I havent been officially diagnosed but I have enough of the same symptoms to think that I have it. I was also born with PVS plus with a hole in the heart. The hole closed before I was 5. I had surgery when I was 18 for the PVS. It REALLY helped me physically ! Before then it took me the entire gym period to run 4 laps around the track and then another full class period to really recover from that. After surgery I went on a hike of several miles and came in last (of course) but within 10 minutes of the last ones in the group. Within 2-3 years I could walk 3 miles an hour . That was over 25 years ago and I am still in good health. I think the most difficult thing in growing up was the fact that there was no pain and no physical affects. I didnt FEEL sick so it was hard to realize just how "ill" I was. Marathoners talk about "hitting the wall " and keeping on going. No such thing could happen to me - I could run and then my body would stop long before I was ready to stop mentally. That might be a good way to explain the need for surgery to your son if he wonders why he needs it. Another way that it affected me was that in any activity I was always looking for ways to conserve my body energy. I learned how to budget long before I knew what the word meant. I would determine how I felt and then look at the activity and decide 'Is it worth doing or will it mean missing out on what comes next?" I learned early when I could "pour it on" and when I couldnt. You could probably explain to your son that having the surgery would mean that he would unlimited energy to use all the time. I realize there are risks but the benefits to having surgery now - to me would make it worthwhile.
I am not sure what type of dry skin your son has. My hands would get chapped and bleeding during the winter months. Now I use lotion with aloe vera in it and it seems to work.
My son Ryan 6 years old has Noonan Syndrome. We are going to have our first heart surgery on December 6th. He has Pulmonary Valve Stenosis as well as Wolffe-Parkinson-White Syndrome (WPW), I am very anxious about the surgery, he has had minor surgeries in the past but not with the heart. My son is also hearing impaired, which I have found to be not a very common issue with Noonan Kids.
Wanted to know if any of your kids experience very very dry skin on the face and extremities. My son has such dry skin, we have tried every over the counter and some RX lotions, (that were too strong and gave him a terrible burning sensation) but I have not come across anything that helps. If anyone has any suggestions I would be happy to hear them.
I want to welcome all the new members, and to let them know, though our kids may be on a different journey than 'typical' kids, and the road can be rough at times, they are still 'children' first, and with the support and love from us I am confident that they will become HAPPY, productive adults.
Hi Lorraine,
My 14 month old Zachary was diagnosed with noonans in mid-October.
He also was diagnosed with JMML in October 2003. The doctors didn't
think that Zack had either Noonans or JMML either and then they
crushed my world when the told me he tested positive for JMML. Zack
has never gotten any symptoms of JMML since his flare up that made
them test for it. He has still not had any treatments and now that
the Noonan Syndrome diagnosis was made we are now in a holding
pattern waiting and hoping that he is in the 10% that get the
transient version. He has his blood counts checked every 3 months at
CHOP-Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.
I also looked for the growth chart for Noonan syndrome. It only
shows length/height. The pediatricians still use the normal growth
charts and his endocrinologist and geneticist use both to plot his
growth. Zack has a genetics appointment next week and I can ask them
for a copy of the noonans chart for you if you want and then I can
email or post mail it to you.
You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers - dealing with all
the news of both diagnoses in such a short amount of time is
overwhelming.
Talk to you soon,
Beth, mom to Zack 14 mo (JMML & Noonans)& Ethan 3yrs
www.caringbridge.org/pa/zack
--- In noonan_support@yahoogroups.com, "bailblue" <bailblue@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> My 7mth old son Bailey was diagnosed with noonans last week. It's
a
> 2nd shock for us because he was also diagnosed with jmml (juvenile
> myelomonocytic leukaemia) in July.
> His heart scan 2 months ago was clear and he's very much into his
> milk and solid food and most docs didn't think he had it by looking
> at him.
> He's always been on the bottom of the growth charts. I've heard
> there is a noonans chart. Does anyone know where I can get one?
>
> Thanks Lorraine
Hi,
My 7mth old son Bailey was diagnosed with noonans last week. It's a
2nd shock for us because he was also diagnosed with jmml (juvenile
myelomonocytic leukaemia) in July.
His heart scan 2 months ago was clear and he's very much into his
milk and solid food and most docs didn't think he had it by looking
at him.
He's always been on the bottom of the growth charts. I've heard
there is a noonans chart. Does anyone know where I can get one?
Thanks Lorraine
--- In noonan_support@yahoogroups.com, "Beth" <zack082503@t...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Beth and my son Zachary was just diagnosed with Noonan
> Syndrome this past week. He is almost 14 months old. He tested
> positive for JMML at 2 months old but so far it is transient. We
> have a cardiology appt. coming up but to date has not had any
heart
> problems that we know of. I still don't know much about Noonan
> Syndrome and am wondering what we are going to be dealing with in
the
> future, both near and far. Zack does have feeding issues - FTT,
> reflux and allergic colitis.
> I have a website set up for him: www.caringbridge.org/pa/zack
> Hope to get to know you and your children and learn more about
this
> syndrome.
Hi Beth
Nice to meet you.
I am glad Zach does not have any heart problems.
Kyle also had feeding problems. he failed to thrive and has had 8
hernia operations. He also had problems with his ears draining due
to the way they sit. He is still small but with technology now we
are going to help him out a bit with growth hormones and putting
devices on his long leg bones to help out. If you ever need to talk,
or have any questions let me know.
Kat(kim)
>
> Beth
My Name is Kim and my Son Kyle(16) was born with Noonans. Well that
was a dumb statement, of course he was born wit it, you don't catch
it.
Kyle is pretty healthy. He has a rough go as an infant. He is only
4'7" right now and weighs 80lbs. He has a great presonality and is
only mildly delayed in school. This year he is getting his feet ad
legs operated on. he has no arches which has caused his legs to bow
in. At the same time he has requested to have his bones lengthened.
He is a brave boy. He will alse have his eye lids done and his ears
pinned back. This was all by his request. Socially he is not delayed
and he feels left behind due to his physical appearence. I am a
single mother with Multiple Sclerosis. It can be quite tough at
times but he has taught me so much. Number 1 is patience. Kyle also
has ADHD. Some days there is not a ritalin pill big enough!!!
Mike his brother does not have noonans, but is delayed in his
reading and speech. The specialist thinks he may carry the gene but
have a very very mild case of noonans.
Kyle does not have a heart abnomality. Thank Goodness. He does have
trouble with his muscles ripping.
Anyway, its nice to meet all of you. I can't wait to chat.
Kim
Hi - my name is Heather and I have a daughter Becky (9) with Noonan
Syndrome. (There is some information about her at www.hnye.com)
Looking forward to chatting to other people about NS, as I haven't
done so for a very long time!
Regards
Heather
my name is jane, my son jonathan has noonans .. i wouldnt change him for the world he has his own little personallity ..we do have our moment with him tho ... jonathan doesnt have problems with eating .. he is the oppersite he eats like anythink ..
jonathan has already had open heart surgery .. he suffers with 2 defects of the heart .. he has behavour problems too ...
My name is Beth and my son Zachary was just diagnosed with Noonan Syndrome this past week. He is almost 14 months old. He tested positive for JMML at 2 months old but so far it is transient. We have a cardiology appt. coming up but to date has not had any heart problems that we know of. I still don't know much about Noonan Syndrome and am wondering what we are going to be dealing with in the future, both near and far. Zack does have feeding issues - FTT, reflux and allergic colitis. I have a website set up for him: www.caringbridge.org/pa/zack Hope to get to know you and your children and learn more about this syndrome.
Hello, all! I am a special ed teacher and have been researching
Noonan's syndrome lately. Didn't realize how rare it was and how
little info is out there. Glad to have come across this group.
Looks like it has real potential. Would like to toss out two
questions and see if the insight of others may help me learn.
1. Would love any info anyone is willing to share on what you wish
your child's special education teacher knew about Noonan's or
children with Noonan's.
2. Anyone have any expecially good resources to recommend?
I am constantly amazed by the strength and resourcefulness of the
parents/caregivers of my students. Can't wait to hear what other
have to share.
Hi,
My name is Beth and my son Zachary was just diagnosed with Noonan
Syndrome this past week. He is almost 14 months old. He tested
positive for JMML at 2 months old but so far it is transient. We
have a cardiology appt. coming up but to date has not had any heart
problems that we know of. I still don't know much about Noonan
Syndrome and am wondering what we are going to be dealing with in the
future, both near and far. Zack does have feeding issues - FTT,
reflux and allergic colitis.
I have a website set up for him: www.caringbridge.org/pa/zack
Hope to get to know you and your children and learn more about this
syndrome.
Beth
Hello,
My name is Jacqui and I am a mom of a 10 year old boy who has
experienced many of the same difficulties (physical, emotional, and
educational) as many of the children I have just learned about who
have been diagnosed with NS. My son has been diagnosed by his
doctor with ADHD, has learning disabilities, and has receptive and
expressive speech difficulties, in addition to many other medical
problems. I was searching the internet and found the
noonansyndrome.org website and discovered many similarities between
my son and the kids I see on other noonan websites. I am looking to
connect with parents to find out more about diagnosis and treatment
of Noonan syndrome. Thank you.
Hello, I see this is a very slow group, but I figured I'd check it
out :) My name is Shannon, I have 3 kids, soon to be 4. We are
adopting a little boy who has Noonan Syndrome, and I need some
information about doctors. We'll have to change his dr, and I don't
have a ped that I really like in this area yet (Ft. Smith, AR). We
moved here about 9 mo ago, and we've seen several ped's, but none
that I really feel comfortable with. Is there a list of dr's who
specialize in gentic disorders somewhere? Is there anything I should
know before we bring our angel home?
TIA,
Shannon
Mom to G7, B6, G4.5, and soon to be mom to B3
hello I am new here an really need help in understanding this for I
have an 8 year old who has been diagnoised with noonan syndrome.,she
has got the features of this. she has ASD,pulmonary stenosis an just
last week we were told she is going blind. he develomental delays are
as of an 4 year old . i need to know what to expect before it happens
can anyone help me please thank you debbie
Oh my gosh I have a million and one ? to ask you. How did he get diagnosed at birth? It took me a year and 3 major hospitols.Peyton was just labled delayed and FTT.He does have a ASD. He is a very classic dase of Noonans without the retardation.He looks like every other kid on the web site.I don't know how you handled 20 years of this, every day I ask why me and my friends tell me I must have done something reall bad in a previous life.Did your son do the whole therapy thing? what kinds and how long did it last? Did you do growth hormones?HYow old was he when he walked or talked? Was he tiny forever? peyton is 18 mo and weighs 15 lb. The worst thing is I have a niece 3 weeks younger than Peyton who is the perfect baby, walked on time sat on time talks non stop eats everthing is at 100% for her height Peyton is not even on that dumd chart.Hope to hear from you soon.
MY NAME IS DEBRA, I HAVE A SON WITH NOONAN SYNDROME. HE WAS DIAGNOSED AT BIRTH.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU THROUGH. I'M NOT SURE IF YOUR SON HAS A HEART DEFECT OR NOT , BUT MOST NOONAN CHILDREN HAVE ONE OR MORE DEFECTS. MY SON IS NOW TWENTY YRS OF AGE AND IS STILL CURRENTLY LIVING WITH OUR FAMILY. LAST YEAR WE WERE GOING TO LET JACOB MOVE INTO AN APARTMENT WITH ANOTHER FRIEND , BUT DO TO UNEXPECTED MEDICAL PROBLEMS WE HAVE HAD TO WAIT.
ALL I CAN SAY IS THE LORD HAS TRULY BLESSED US WITH JACOB AND HE HAS BROUGHT MUCH JOY TO OUR LIVES. I PRAY YOUR ROAD WILL BE AS BLESSED AS OURS, GOD DOES NOT GIVE TO US. ANY MORE THAN ONE CAN HANDLE. I USE TO WONDER ABOUT THAT . BUT ALWAYS THERE WAS GROWTH THROUGH ANY TYPE OF DIFFICULTY. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I MAY BE ABLE TO HELP ANSWER. YOU MAY CONTACT ME AT 805-227-0313
I HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
SINCERELY DEBRA FINLEY
DEBRA A FINLEY
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--- In noonan_support@yahoogroups.com, "kevinbottorff"
<kevinbottorff@y...> wrote:
> I am a 30 year old male who has delt with NS firsthand. I have
some
> of the symptoms of NS such as webbed-neck(corrected with plastic
> surgery at 13), heart problems(2 heart surgeries at 10 and 28 years
> old),ADD, unpronounced chin, sunken-in chest and some hearing
loss.
> I have never seen anyone with a webbed-neck in my life and this was
> devastating to me as a child. I still sometimes deal with those
bad
> childhood memories and never had anyone to relate to what I was/am
> going through. I have taken all types of medication to balance my
> mental state, anti-depressants, anti-anxiety, and blood pressure
> medicine. I have gotten better and broke out of my shyness stage
> around 18. But sometimes I find myself still self-conscious about
> the scars on my neck and body from my surgeries. I would like to
> correspond with anyone interested with what I have been through.
>
> Sincerely,
> Kevin Bottorff
Hi my name is Alyson and I'm 41 years old.I was born with congenital
heart disease.I had pulmonary stenosis and atrial septal defect.I was
born with a big head and droppy eyes.My brother was born and died in
1964 of congenital pulmonary lymphangiectasia.Three weeks after he
died I went into congenital heart failure the doctors told my parents
I wouldn't live.In 1969 I was found to have a brain absecces and the
doctors gave me a 5% chance at life.The next year I had open heart
surgery.Through the years classmates as well as others have made fun
of me.I have had learning disabilites as well.Sometimes life isn't
easy but I guess you just manage to go on someway.I'm trying to get
the help I need.
Best wishes
Alyson Manasco
Hello everyone,
My name is Kathy and I have a 3 year old daughter with Noonan's. I
am anxious to talk to others that are affected by this genetic
disorder. Hope to hear from you soon!!
Kathy
I am a 30 year old male who has delt with NS firsthand. I have some
of the symptoms of NS such as webbed-neck(corrected with plastic
surgery at 13), heart problems(2 heart surgeries at 10 and 28 years
old),ADD, unpronounced chin, sunken-in chest and some hearing loss.
I have never seen anyone with a webbed-neck in my life and this was
devastating to me as a child. I still sometimes deal with those bad
childhood memories and never had anyone to relate to what I was/am
going through. I have taken all types of medication to balance my
mental state, anti-depressants, anti-anxiety, and blood pressure
medicine. I have gotten better and broke out of my shyness stage
around 18. But sometimes I find myself still self-conscious about
the scars on my neck and body from my surgeries. I would like to
correspond with anyone interested with what I have been through.
Sincerely,
Kevin Bottorff
There is an excellent support group for those affected by NS.
www.noonansyndrome.org
The Noonan Syndrome Support Group
PO Boxd 145
Upperco 21155
MD
USA
Hello,
This is my 1st contact with this group. I have a 6 year
old little boy with NOONAN'S SYNDROME. I would like to contact
people likely to bring information on this disease. We live in
Brittany.
Thank you in advance for the assistance brought.
1er contact avec votre association. Ayant de la famille avec un petit garçon de 6 ans atteint du syndrome de Noonan, je voudrais contacter des personnes susceptibles d'apporter des renseignements sur cette maladie.
Hi
I just found this egroup tonight. Thought I would let you know that
there is a Noonan Snydrome support group email and snail mail that is
already active -has annual meetings-a newsletter etc. I dont have the
website address on me right now but will try to find it. I have a very mild form of Noonans - it "didn't exist in the medical
books" when I was born but I have a lot of the features etc. I also had
pulmonary stenosis - had surgery when i was 18 for it. Also very small
for my age. One of you mentioned the behavioural difficulties your son
had. part of it could be his deafness -lack of communication and
knowing whats going on. part of it could be frustration that he can't
do things as easily as his friends can. Example- I can remeber my
frustration DAILY at trying to get my lunchbox off the shelf. some
wellmeaning student would always slide their hands along the lunchboxes
pushing them against the wall- of course I spent a good part of lunch
trying to get it where I could reach it !! Either that or ask someone
who would look at me with a " well get it yourself!!" Being shorter
means you have to constantly stretch to reach - means that you have to
run twice as fast to keep up with others - and with PS you have even
less oxygen and energy to work with. Having PS means that it takes
twice as long to recover from running and any other exercise etc Example would be Physed - everyone else could relax until everyone was
done running track (me) then they were fresh to run into the gym to
change and then to class. I had no such resting time. took me the
entire time ( 30 minutes)to run 4 laps then exhausted i would pant my
way to gym and then to the next class. Usually took me 10-15 minutes to
stop gasping for breath . and the first year I took typing -naturally I
barely passed. Now since surgery I can walk 3 miles an hour !! Hope this helps. There are many variations to Noonans. Plus there is
a lot of info and help you just have to know where to get it !! smile Shirley
Hello and welcome to the noonan_support eGroup. This eGroup is
relative new and there are only about 5 members so far. I am working
on promoting this eGroup as well as the whole "Rare Disease Support
Community."
Currently, I have over 1000 rare disease support groups. You can find
a lisiting of the groups by visiting my web page at:
I personally am not affected by noonan's nor anyone I personally know. I do have two sons affected by a rare genetic disorder and they are the
reason for my developing this support community. I honestly hope we
don't have many members but since I know there are a lot of people out
there who are dealing with these rare disorders and are needing
support, I expect this community will grow.
I hope the other members of this support eGroup are able to provide you
with some information and the support you need.
Please feel free to contact me if you need particular help with
anything.
Hi, my name is Louisa and my 4 year old son has just been diagnosed with
Noonan's Syndrome (in november) and I found this list while browsing. My son
is severe-profoundly deaf in addition to having had open heart surgery for
pulmonic stenosis, surgery for pyloric stenosis and an orchidopexy. He has
scoliosis for which he wears a Milwaukee brace and has behaviour problems
due to ADHD, ODD and SID. He sleeps poorly and therefore so do I. He is
below 3rd percentile for height and weight and si emotionally and socially
delayed in development by about 1 1/2 years.
At the moment, dealing with his difficult behavious is the most difficult
thing. Does anyone else have a problem with this in their child?
Louisa
(mom to Ciaran, 4 NS)
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I am a new member to this group that until last night did not know
that much about Noonan Syndrome. I have two brothers that have one
healthy child each. Each brother also had a child that died from what
doctors were saying was a rare disease called Noonan's. At the time of
these deaths I was to young for anyone to talk to me about the disease.
My one neice lived to be 5 months old and the other lived to be five
months old and my other neice lived to be 6 years old. The six year
old lived her whole life in pain and half of it in the hospital. This
took alot out of my brother and sister-in-law. He has always had a
hard time dealing with it. My sister-in-law has always wanted me to
have testing done before I had children, but never came out and said
it. I think it is because my brother did not want to deal with it.
This all came to a head for me because my wife of 26 days is
pregnant. We have been together for 9 years and did not think we would
be able to have children because of endrometrosis (hope that is correct
spelling) that she has had since she was 19 years old. The doctors
told her she probably would not be able to have children, but it would
be the best thing for her. We went on our honeymoon and said if we get
pregnant great, but if not ok. Well great happened, but now we are
very concerned from the information my sister-in-law told me.
My sister-in-law told me that this is a rare disease and is in
alot of people, but not always to the degree of my neices. I started
reading the features of Noonan Syndrome on the internet and found that
some of the characteristics or seen in our family. I have hearing that
has been bad since childhood, short stature (5 7') and am near sighted.
My oldest brother has short stature, near sighted and has a flat,
broad root of nose. The brother in the middle of us does not have any
of the characteristics.
I am a little more concerned that the baby that we will be having
in 8 months will have the problems that my two neices had. I want to
try to find every website I can to find out any information about this
disease. When my neices' were born in the early to mid 80's the
syndrome could not be detected before childbirth, but I don't know if
that is true anymore.
Please forward any new information or websites to my e-mail
address billycpa@....
I recently received an email asking about our eGroup. This is a new site that I am just starting. I personally have no experience with Noonan's Syndrome. I have two sons affected by a rare genetic disorder that only affects boys. I have started a number of these groups. If you go to the following address, you will find a listing of all the Support eGroups I am founder/manager:
http://www.angelfire.com/on2/egroups/index.html
You are the first member of this eGroup. If you wish to stay, I will try and help you develop more contacts/members to join this group. If you know of others who could be interested in joining, please let me know and I will send them an invitation.
I look forward to talking more with you. Just take a little bit of time and explore this site and you will see all the wonderful features it gives you for communicating with others with a similar interest.
I recently received an email asking about our eGroup. This is a new site that I am just starting. I personally have no experience with Noonan's Syndrome. I have two sons affected by a rare genetic disorder that only affects boys. I have started a number of these groups. If you go to the following address, you will find a listing of all the Support eGroups I am founder/manager:
http://www.angelfire.com/on2/egroups/index.html
You are the first member of this eGroup. If you wish to stay, I will try and help you develop more contacts/members to join this group. If you know of others who could be interested in joining, please let me know and I will send them an invitation.
I look forward to talking more with you. Just take a little bit of time and explore this site and you will see all the wonderful features it gives you for communicating with others with a similar interest.