ooops- apologies for this. I was way too speedy in responding as I did. I am very excited though, at the possibility of this group becoming the arena for...
Aliceann: I'm also glad to have you post here. I always enjoyed your posts on the biofeed list but, as you know, I stopped reading and posting there quite a...
I wanted to mention the MLRN Discussion list: http://www.mindandlife.org/ml.research.network.html It is a discussion forum sponsored by the Mind & Life...
Val, I've been reading on the subject a little, so I was wondering if your NLD approach necessarily has to be based on some kind of normative EEG data. In ...
John: No, we don't use norms — EEG is not a Gaussian distribution so norms don't really make a lot of sense. But, even if they did make sense to collect and...
I understand the frustration with the Bio list...I sadly stopped posting on ALL lists due to the abuse... Lise' Val Brown <val@...> wrote: Aliceann: I'm...
Yes, it is sad for it to have gotten to that place. It was so full of promise in the early days. And I still feel a twinge of guilt about leaving as I...
This is where I started. It has link after link to follow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-linear_control I have a lot of trouble grasping the entire...
Val, Being generally clueless about the whole non-linear thing, I just don't see how you can make progress with a goal, and to have a goal you have to be ...
Arggh! I meant to say *without* a goal, of course. _____ From: neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com [mailto:neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JWH...
Hi John, I am sure Val will have much to say on the subject, but I can say one thing from a clinical, or training, perspective as we call it. We don't have...
John: ... Yes, I'm sure you did mean to say that and yet, I think you've actually said it much more correctly. Having A goal can frequently get in the way of...
Hi Sue, That is a very clear explanation, thank you. It reminds me of what I thought when reading about the original work of Sterman. He was working with...
Val, If you stop the music, isn't that based on some kind of rule that says the current EEG needs to be inhibited? I do see the difference between a *goal* ...
John: Yes, I understand that you don't fully understand it. There are probably only a handful of people in the world who really understand exactly what we do....
Hi John, Your comments make me think of when I am running a client and watching the brain as it is tests out the "limits" of the targeting, as we call it. It...
John, It is a difficult concept to understand and an incredibly simple process to use! If you understand how to use the equipment...then transformation...
Val, OK, now it seems to all make sense. There is no goal and no attempt to nudge the brain this way or that. The music stopping is like a Zen master popping...
Hi Lise, We do have a "Client Stories" forum, on our private-for-users PASS forum, that is replete with such stories (hint, Lise:-). While people see miracles...
Your summary, John is a really wonderful, succinct description of what we do. I differ from Val, though, in saying it is not JUST coming to the present (and I...
John: I'm glad it's helpful and clear. One thing that I want to emphasize is about what I mean when I say "return to the present", well at least some of what...
Sue, if it is more than "just" coming to the present, what else is it for you? Catherine Catherine A. Boyer, MA, LCSW catherine.boyer@... 212-877-6923 ...
Hi Catherine, After I wrote that I knew I had set myself up for someone to ask:) I didn't figure it would be you, however (as you already know me relatively...
And as a follow up to that I would say that it is only in the present -- having (just) returned to it) that we actually get effective feedback. Anything else...
Sue, Yes, it was definitely just a question of who would ask! I did think you would say something that had the feeling of your response, but I wanted to hear...
... probably only a handful of ... That's what makes it a ... as I do, then you'd be ... been tried. ... current EEG needs to be ... As I posted before, no ......
Yes, that's exactly right. I frame a lot of the work in terms of the non-duality psychology and transformational perspective of buddhism; and I definitely...
I was thinking of asking my local vet hospital to allow me to do a few days of training guys(I can do 16 or so) for free so as to get them on board with at...
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