By the way, one of my very young clients' gastroenterologists told his
mother that severe behavior problems are typical of children with
colitis. The child has been given the antihistamine Singulaire with
wonderful effects on not only his gut, but his behavior (at least when
combined with neurofeedback and very strict attention to his diet). And
another child, with rectification of asthma and sinusitis (Mom has made
major changes in the child's diet, including by the way acidophilus which
can, interestingly, be helpful with sinusitus) is doing wonderfully well
lately at school compared to only weeks ago. Neurofeedback, nutrition,
(and a bit of EFT or neurofeedback when possible for the parents to help
them lower their own reactivity and PTSD from dealing with terrifyingly
out-of-control children, when I only the child is covered for my services)
have been combined for amazing improvements in behavior over a period of
only a few months.

Julie


On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:18:48 -0400, Raaymakers Molly
<molly.neuro@...> wrote:

> Yes, when i noted slowing brain function i was refering to how folks
> describe the observable clinical symptoms they feel such as lethargy,
> ADD, feeling mentally 'slow' as thoughts don't seem to connect as
> rapidly, mentally tasks take longer to complete.  I did not clarify this
> on the post. 
> I wasn't refering to the data/EEG as being impacted by speed, nor have i
> ever considered that was even possible...that seems a mute point; though
> i was not clear in stating this.  What i typically see is as you note an
> increase in CCAC measures (usually a significant increasing pattern
> across a period of time/sessions, which correlates to increasing symptom
> complaints during that time, as one would expect).  Within Western
> Michigan i seem to have an abundance of opportunity to capture these
> connections, as over the years I've been training with NF (67%-80%) of
> my clients' data increase and decrease in emergent variability during
> the same correlated seasonal periods (estimated tracking of my
> cases annually across the last 8 years).  Correlating symptoms
> vary within these clients,  yet the data patterns have been relatively
> consistent in changing towards less organized CCAC data with increased
> seasonal extrinsic effects; more organized CCAC
> data as seasonal extrinsics minimize.  
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> --- On Thu, 6/18/09, Val Brown <valdeanebrown@...> wrote:
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> From: Val Brown <valdeanebrown@...>
> Subject: [neurofeedcommunity] Re: extrinsic variable
> To: neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 8:14 PM
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> While I'm sure that respiratory- related issues can serve as extrinsic
> constraints I wouldn't refer to the their effect as "slow<ing> brain
> function". It's not the the EEG "slows", although that may (or may not)
> be apparent in some ways of looking at the data. Rather, it's more that
> the emergent variability in the EEG is greatly increased and that occurs
> in a non-averaged, pseudo-random fashion. What appears as "slowing" of
> the EEG is one of the effects of the increased turbulence and emergent
> variability, not the inverse.
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> val
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> --- In neurofeedcommunity@ yahoogroups. com, molly.neuro@ ... wrote:
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>> Respiratory is the and I say that strongly THE biggest extrinsic
>> variable I see slow brain function. I have some prior postings I'll dig
>> up and send to you later on with more detail.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Karen Shue <kshue@...>
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>> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:44:21
>> To: <neurofeedcommunity@ yahoogroups. com>
>> Subject: Re: [neurofeedcommunity ] extrinsic variable
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>> Hi Molly:
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>> Perhaps this is more of a Zengar list question, but I'm wondering if you
>> might share more about what you look for/see in the data as indicators
>> of extrinsic variables?
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>> Thanks!
>>
>> Karen
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>> molly.neuro@ ... wrote:
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>> > I am able to consistently troubleshoot extrinsic variables, which I
>> > find do not stand out as clearly within data generated and displayed
>> > on other softwares.
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