Hi Rae,

I have difficulty with light/sound entrainment as well, particularly alpha
entrainment. I have had reintroduction of chronic pain issues when I tried 10hz
entrainment which was relieved with a few sessions of ZIN. so my CNS is
sensitive but I wonder if like a canary in a mine I am feeling strongly what is
effecting others just not as noticably. I don't know so I stay away from it.


Meg

--- In neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com, "Rae Tattenbaum" <RTinneract@...>
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> We are talking about using this tool in very specific situations. For
> example , the MD suggested it for a Parkinson's patient. This will help the
> patient achieve a relaxed state and possibly-maybe a temporary reduction in
> tremors. It might be used on a daily basis at the same time when the person
> might be practicing rhythmic breathing. It does not replace Neurofeedback.
> This tool however I do not use routinely. I find it really helpful for high
> achievers i.e. singers, actors, athletes, business travelers who are having
> to perform within periodic stressful situation. (auditions)
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> Also, some clients discontinue the use of this tool as they achieve more
> inner balance.
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> I do not use it for pain, insomnia nor would I have recommended it for
> clients with tremors. I find the integration of breathing, open focus and
> NCP significantly reduces their responses to the tremors and in some cases
> (singers) reduce the tremor.
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> On a personal basis, I did not use my alpha stim for 10 years. I have a
> difficult time with travel and I went to Vietnam in November. I used the
> Alpha Stim in the mornings and it helped me achieve a more balanced state.
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> Rae
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> To: neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [neurofeedcommunity] Re: Cranial Stimulators? (CES)
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> You may very well be right Rae. You can get personal :-)I have had trauma
> and head injuries when young. I started out with a large amount of low
> frequencies when I started training with ZIN. My CNS was well within normal
> range for two years by the time I tried alpha stim. The boy I refered to did
> have a head injury as well that left him with worsened attention issues.
> Alpha stim made this worse still. What I don't understand is why take the
> risk. In what way is it beneficial to the CNS? How does it add to ZIN that
> makes it worth taking the risk?
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> Meg
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> --- In neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:neurofeedcommunity%40yahoogroups.com> , "Rae Tattenbaum"
> <RTinneract@> wrote:
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> > Without getting personal-sometimes people who may have had head injuries
> > (minor) as well as some trauma may find these tools disconcerting.
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> > Rae
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> > From: neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com
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> <mailto:neurofeedcommunity%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of parisprints2002
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 3:07 PM
> > To: neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com
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> > Subject: [neurofeedcommunity] Re: Cranial Stimulators? (CES)
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> > Hi Katherine,
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> > I can only speak from my own experience and that of a friend. when I tried
> > it I felt drunk. It was after training with ZIn for two years and didn't
> > care for it. A friend of mine was using it for her son who had learning
> > disabilities. His disabilities became worse. He felt more foggy and
> spacey.
> > she bought ZIN in part to undo what she thought was done by alpha stim.
> > But I have no experience with it and parkinsons.
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> > Meg
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> > i--- In neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com
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> > <mailto:neurofeedcommunity%40yahoogroups.com> , "Katherine Leddick"
> > <KLEDDICK@> wrote:
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> > > Hello All,
> > > A respected psychiatrist has recommended a Cranial Electro Stimulator
> > (CES) for a patient with severe Parkinson's Disease. He sent me to
> > www.fisherwallace.com and www.alpha-stim.com for more information. Is
> anyone
> > familiar with these devices? Can anyone speak to their effects? Any
> > information and opinions much appreciated.
> > > Katherine Leddick
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