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RE: [neurofeedcommunity] Cranial Stimulators? (CES)

I understand why he is suggesting these products. I have used this with clients. However as Dr. Stroebel used to say-prior to prescribing or suggesting –it is critical that the person be introduced to methods to trigger the relaxation response and or the quieting reflex. Once the client has attempted to learn these tools they will discover that in combination with the Alpha Stim-they can sustain a state of self regulation for longer periods.

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From: neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com [mailto:neurofeedcommunity@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Katherine Leddick
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:21 PM
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Subject: [neurofeedcommunity] Cranial Stimulators? (CES)

 




Hello All,
A respected psychiatrist has recommended a Cranial Electro Stimulator (CES) for a patient with severe Parkinson's Disease. He sent me to www.fisherwallace.com and www.alpha-stim.com for more information. Is anyone familiar with these devices? Can anyone speak to their effects? Any information and opinions much appreciated.
Katherine Leddick
Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:58 pm

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Hello All, A respected psychiatrist has recommended a Cranial Electro Stimulator (CES) for a patient with severe Parkinson's Disease. He sent me to... 		Katherine Leddick
khl7400
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5:21 pm

Hi Both, Having experimented with neurofeedback, acupuncture and audio-visual stimulation it is interesting that the psychiatrist recognised the need for an...
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dongor22
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6:22 pm

I understand why he is suggesting these products. I have used this with clients. However as Dr. Stroebel used to say-prior to prescribing or suggesting -it is...
Rae Tattenbaum
tattenbaum
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Hi Katherine, I can only speak from my own experience and that of a friend. when I tried it I felt drunk. It was after training with ZIn for two years and...
parisprints2002
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7:07 pm

Without getting personal-sometimes people who may have had head injuries (minor) as well as some trauma may find these tools disconcerting. Rae From:...
Rae Tattenbaum
tattenbaum
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7:54 pm

You may very well be right Rae. You can get personal :-)I have had trauma and head injuries when young. I started out with a large amount of low frequencies...
parisprints2002
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We are talking about using this tool in very specific situations. For example , the MD suggested it for a Parkinson's patient. This will help the patient...
Rae Tattenbaum
tattenbaum
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Hi Rae, I have difficulty with light/sound entrainment as well, particularly alpha entrainment. I have had reintroduction of chronic pain issues when I tried...
parisprints2002
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