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Re: Need for developing of consumer information on TM   Message List  
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Re: Need for developing of consumer information on TM

Hi,
I do not see any problem in Ayurveda adopting to the formulations of modern
medicine (MM) like tablets, capsules. The Ayurveda scriptures do not describe
traditional formulations like vati, churan, bhasma etc. It is because in those
times tablets, capsules etc did not exist. If the MM formulations are compatible
to Ayurvedic preparations, then there is no harm in adopting these if these are
convinient to manufacture and administer. Many branded Ayurvedic products are
available in market in MM formulations. Hence Ayurvedacharyas must openly look
at the advantages and start accepting the change.

Standardisation is better assured in formulations of MM, only if it is followed.
The labelled, QC product, FDA approved is much better than the contents of
"pudiya" (wrapped powder) selling in market.

I am aware of one such shop selling other goods (which is not pharmacy) in
Itwari market of my city which does phenomenal business of selling the "pudiya"
for various diseases. On hearing about it, curiosity took me there to stand in
que and even buy few pudiyas. I was shocked to see that there is no label at
all. The shop keeper informed that he is doing this as social service, without
earning profits, gets the medicines from a reknowned Vaidya from who he
benefitted etc;etc. He asks for the complaints and accordingly chooses the
pudiya from about a dozen variety available with him. The dose suggested is
according to severity of the complaint. He differentiates the "pudiya" from
colour of wrapper and coded lettering printed over it. To give you example, a
pudiya for arthritis sells for Rs 7 each and 2-3 such pudiyas are recommended
per day. Those interested further in exploring this can try to find in their
cities in India. I am sure that such practice thrives every where.

Vijay



--- In netrum@yahoogroups.com, kunda gharpure <gharpurekunda@...> wrote:
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> hello,
>  Mngesh has touched upon the issue of interactions of  herbs with modern
medicines.
> I would like someone to enlighten me on the following issue.
> I met a person from Dubai who said that they have herbs selling in their
market but there they are in the modern dasage forms with name of the active
ingredient( single) and the quantity in mg, all standardised.
> when we talk of traditional medicine in India at least, the bulk of TM
comprises Ayurvedic medicines.Is there any method for standardisation of the
active ingredient and are they available in modern dosage forms but prepared as
per the ayurvedic formulary?
> I also know that Pharmanza herbals produces herbal medicines in which the
standardised  active ingredient is only used  to prepare the modern dosage
form.Is it possible to prepare  TM using the traditional methods and define
standards for the multiple ingredients in ti?
> kunda
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> --- On Fri, 3/4/09, mangesh bankar <drmangesh_bankar@...> wrote:
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> From: mangesh bankar <drmangesh_bankar@...>
> Subject: [netrum] Re: Need for developing of consumer information on TM
> To: netrum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, 3 April, 2009, 7:02 PM
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> Dear Members,
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> Herbal-Drug Interactions
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> Herbal
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> Drugs
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> Effect
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> Echinacea
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> Anabolic steroids, amiodarone, methotrexate, ketoconazole
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> Additive hepatotoxic effects
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> Feverfew
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> NSAIDs
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> Decreased effect of herbal
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> Anticoagulants
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> Additive platelet inhibition
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> Garlic
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> Aspirin, anti--coagulants
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> Reduced blood clotting time
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> Ginkgo biloba
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> Anticoagulants, aspirin, NSAIDs
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> Increased risk of bleeding
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> Anticonvulsants, TCAs
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> Decreased seizure threshold
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> Ginseng
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> MAO inhibitors
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> Headache, tremors, mania
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> Corticosteroids
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> Augmented steroid toxicity
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> Warfarin
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> Decreased INR
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> Siberian ginseng
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> Digoxin
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> Elevated digoxin levels
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> Kava
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> Benzodiazepines
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> Additive CNS depression
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> Ma huang
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> Antidepressants, CNS stimulants
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> Increased herbal effect
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> St. John's wort
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> Piroxicam,tetracycl ines
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> Increased photo-toxicity
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> Antidepressants, CNS stimulants
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> Additive effects
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> Theophylline
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> Decreased xanthine levels
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> Saw palmetto
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> Estrogen
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> Increased effect of herbal
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> Valerian
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> CNS depressants
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> Additive CNS depression
> NSAIDs = nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drugs; TCAs = tricyclic
antidepressants; MAO = monoamine oxidase; INR = international normalized ratio;
CNS = central nervous system.
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> Regards,
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> Dr. Mangesh
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Dear Members,   Herbal-Drug Interactions Herbal Drugs Effect Echinacea Anabolic steroids, amiodarone, methotrexate, ketoconazole Additive hepatotoxic effects ...
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hello,  Mngesh has touched upon the issue of interactions of  herbs with modern medicines. I would like someone to enlighten me on the following issue. I met...
kunda gharpure
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Apr 4, 2009
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Hi, I do not see any problem in Ayurveda adopting to the formulations of modern medicine (MM) like tablets, capsules. The Ayurveda scriptures do not describe...
Vijay
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Apr 4, 2009
10:57 pm

Hi, I stand corrected please. Kindly read me as: Ayurveda scriptures do describe traditional formulations like vati, churna, bhasma etc; but do not describe...
Vijay
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Apr 4, 2009
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Sir, Such pudiyas are commonly given by fake saints. They have cure for almost any ailment (and also for infertility treatment) in them. They even give...
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