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From: Rasheedah

To: naturalbirthturkey@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:43 PM

Subject: [naturalbirthturkey] Re: living in Mugla - wanting natural birth, no circ, etc...Help! :-)

Dr. Hakan Bey,

Thank you so much for your words of advice. You actually cleared up some confusion we were having about our doctor who has both a private and public practice. We were seeing him at the public hospital and wondering why he wouldn't be attending our birth.

I have to say that my husband and I were disappointed to learn that it will be so difficult to avoid the episiotomy but from hearing the way my GYN and sister-in-law (who was trained as a nurse) spoke about it, I was beginning to get that feeling. We met with the nurse midwives once before and they seemed very sweet and helpful - which was comforting to me. We are wondering if it might be worth it to meet with them once more to ask more questions or if it is better to simply talk with them when we arrive.

Thank you again for your thoughts and advice. Should we begin this process again, we would know where to look!

Thanks so much,
Rasheedah

--- In naturalbirthturkey@yahoogroups.com, Op.Dr.Hakan Çoker <hakancoker@...> wrote:
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> Dear Rasheedah,
> In Mugla state Hospital your cesarean rate will be approximately 50-60%. This was the rate in most of the state hospitals. (Getting down recently)
> I can quarantee that you will not be offered to have any painkillers or epidural anestezia because it is never used in that state hospital. But I can not guarantee some interventions. Your labour might be fastened with induction, you might be forced to not to eat anything and have drops.
> You epiziotomy rate will also be nearly 100%.
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> But if you dont have any private doctor agreement for the state hospital, you will be cared by the midwifes. If you have a nice correspondence than you will probably have a very nice labor. If you trust and respect them, they will respect you more. And definately they will try to help you a lot.
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> So good luck to you in your labor.
>
> Dr.Hakan Coker
> www.dogaldogum.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rasheedah
> To: naturalbirthturkey@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:28 PM
> Subject: [naturalbirthturkey] living in Mu&#287;la - wanting natural birth, no circ, etc...Help! :-)
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> Hello All,
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> I am new to this group and stumbled upon it because my mother was reading an article in Today's Zaman that mentions this group and midwifery today (which mentions Dr. Hakan). I am an American citizen and my husband is Turkish. We are at 40 weeks right now and are expecting the baby any day now. We are big on natural birth but this is our first baby and we have both recently relocated to Turkey (so, we have been used to the American medical system and resources there).
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> So far, all is normal in our pregnancy and the due date is June 25th. I am wondering if there are any tips and suggestions you might be willing to share to help us prepare and advocate for a natural birth at the state hospital here (Mu&#287;la Davlet Hastanesi). I would like to deliver vaginally without the use of any painkillers and hopefully without an induction or any other interventions if possible.
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> I really wish I had seen these resources sooner because I swear I had been seeking out advice wherever I could find it. We wanted to go the slightly inexpensive route so, because we have state insurance, we see a private hospital doctor occasionally because she is my Gyn but have been mostly meeting with a recommended Ob/Gyn at the state hospital and making occasional visits to the Sa&#287;l&#305;k Oca&#287;&#305; as requested by them. We personally supplement this with prenatal yoga, lots of online research, and an Our Bodies, Ourselves and Dr. Sears pregnancy books. If I had known of midwife and home birthing options and doulas here in Mu&#287;la, I would have jumped at that opportunity.
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> Again, any tips you can share about how to go about a natural birth (we are about 10 minutes from the hospital) from how long we should stay at home during labor to once we get to the hospital are very much welcomed. Also, after delivery, what do we HAVE to do? I was told the baby will be given to us and they will try to do tests (blood and shots and so on). The sa&#287;l&#305;k oca&#287;&#305; says to insist they wait on those and come visit them a couple of days later for that kind of stuff. We are a bit confused on what to do.
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> Also, we are big on not doing unnecessary surgeries. Neither of us are practicing Muslims or Jews so we feel no cultural pull to have a circumcision but we know that is practice here. Anyone else who decided not to do this have any thoughts or suggestions/tips?
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> Thank you so much,
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> Rasheedah
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