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Re: [naturalbirthturkey] living in Muğla - wanting natural birth, no circ, etc...Help! :-)

Dear Rasheedah,
In Mugla state Hospital your cesarean rate will be approximately 50-60%. This was the rate in most of the state hospitals. (Getting down recently)
I can quarantee that you will not be offered to have any painkillers or epidural anestezia because it is never used in that state hospital. But I can not guarantee some interventions. Your labour might be fastened with induction, you might be forced to not to eat anything and have drops.
You epiziotomy rate will also be nearly 100%.
 
But if you dont have any private doctor agreement for the state hospital, you will be cared by the midwifes. If you have a nice correspondence than you will probably have a very nice labor.  If you trust and respect them, they will respect you more. And definately they will try to help you a lot.
 
So good luck to you in your labor.
 
Dr.Hakan Coker
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rasheedah
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: [naturalbirthturkey] living in Muğla - wanting natural birth, no circ, etc...Help! :-)

Hello All,

I am new to this group and stumbled upon it because my mother was reading an article in Today's Zaman that mentions this group and midwifery today (which mentions Dr. Hakan). I am an American citizen and my husband is Turkish. We are at 40 weeks right now and are expecting the baby any day now. We are big on natural birth but this is our first baby and we have both recently relocated to Turkey (so, we have been used to the American medical system and resources there).

So far, all is normal in our pregnancy and the due date is June 25th. I am wondering if there are any tips and suggestions you might be willing to share to help us prepare and advocate for a natural birth at the state hospital here (Muğla Davlet Hastanesi). I would like to deliver vaginally without the use of any painkillers and hopefully without an induction or any other interventions if possible.

I really wish I had seen these resources sooner because I swear I had been seeking out advice wherever I could find it. We wanted to go the slightly inexpensive route so, because we have state insurance, we see a private hospital doctor occasionally because she is my Gyn but have been mostly meeting with a recommended Ob/Gyn at the state hospital and making occasional visits to the Sağlık Ocağı as requested by them. We personally supplement this with prenatal yoga, lots of online research, and an Our Bodies, Ourselves and Dr. Sears pregnancy books. If I had known of midwife and home birthing options and doulas here in Muğla, I would have jumped at that opportunity.

Again, any tips you can share about how to go about a natural birth (we are about 10 minutes from the hospital) from how long we should stay at home during labor to once we get to the hospital are very much welcomed. Also, after delivery, what do we HAVE to do? I was told the baby will be given to us and they will try to do tests (blood and shots and so on). The sağlık ocağı says to insist they wait on those and come visit them a couple of days later for that kind of stuff. We are a bit confused on what to do.

Also, we are big on not doing unnecessary surgeries. Neither of us are practicing Muslims or Jews so we feel no cultural pull to have a circumcision but we know that is practice here. Anyone else who decided not to do this have any thoughts or suggestions/tips?

Thank you so much,

Rasheedah



Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:08 pm

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Hello All, I am new to this group and stumbled upon it because my mother was reading an article in Today's Zaman that mentions this group and midwifery today...
Rasheedah
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Dear Rasheedah, In Mugla state Hospital your cesarean rate will be approximately 50-60%. This was the rate in most of the state hospitals. (Getting down...
Op.Dr.Hakan Çoker
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Jun 22, 2009
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Dr. Hakan Bey, Thank you so much for your words of advice. You actually cleared up some confusion we were having about our doctor who has both a private and...
Rasheedah
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Jun 23, 2009
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I think you might leave the rest of the talk to that day. ASs Serbnem wrote to you, If you are polite and determined about your preferences, I am sure they...
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Jun 23, 2009
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Dear Rasheedah, i,m sure we are all wishing you good luck for your birth! Please let us know how things go. Much encouragement Tamahine To:...
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Jun 24, 2009
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Dear Rasheedah, I would encourage you to do whatever you can to avoid an episiotomy. Not only does the use of episiotomy often result in an additional 200cc of...
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Jun 25, 2009
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Rasheeda and everyone, It seems Rasheeda's questions have stirred a vibrant conversation going right to the heart of issues in Turkey. I agree with ebnem...
Julia Steils
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Jun 26, 2009
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Dear all, I can understand and receive and agree that I have never worked or witnessed a birth in Turkey, and so I do not know what will and will not work for...
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Joy, Thank you so much for your heartfelt, well-thought-out words. It is truly a difficult situation that is unfortunately not limited to Turkey. I...
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Dear Julia, You are so very welcome. I am truly grateful for every person like you who is out there on the front lines working and working their hearts out...
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Hi again Julia, I just now received this notice, and I thought that you might be interested..... Physician Group Pulls the Plug on Women’s Autonomy Issues...
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It seems that ACOG has reversed themselves again on the issue of drinking more than ice chips during labor, although they still don't get it that the pregnant...
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Aug 30, 2009
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I agree with what you say about episiotomies. But leaving this to the last minute is not what i will recommend. And especially a doula stopping the doctor to...
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Dear Julia, I read your answer after I wrote the mail about trust. You explanied much better than me, as you most of the times did before. I think we must keep...
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Dear Julia, Over the weekend, I happened to be teaching a class of student midwives which included one of our local activists, so I was talking with her about...
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To Everyone, I am glad that my message has sparked such an important discussion on women's rights in childbirth here in Turkey. I wanted to let you all know...
Rasheedah
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Dear Rasheedah My reply will be rather 'haricten gazel' as we say in Turkish, as I do not live in Turkey anymore and am familiar with the health system there...
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Dear Sebnem, Thank you very much for your thoughts and feedback. We have learned quickly that things don't always go as you'd like them or expect them to go...
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