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Re: [naturalbirthturkey] Re: Article about c-sections

I think the magic in a natural and peacefull birth is RELAXATİON. The body knowing naturally how to conceive the baby, also knows how to deliver the baby.
When you relax, leave the control of everything to your body and baby , than you , yourself also get surprised to see how things go easily.
Birthing is a matter of relaxation and breatghing. Natural and conscious breathing not only brings oxigen to your womb muscles and baby, but also keeps your mind busy.
When the mind is busy than the other unsatisfactory impulses doesnt reach to conscious mind.
 
As İnna Gaskin May says in her wonderfull book " Be the monkey in your birthing experience. Monkeys ar not scared, monkeys doesnt count the days for the labor day, monkeys are not ashamed of any posture in birthing, monkeys do not hesitate making any noise, monkeys follow their instincts.
 
Giving birth changes womens and babies lives permenantly, in a positive or negative way. The matter is to be satisfied with your birthing. Either at home  or hospital, inthe pool or in the bed, with medical help or using the non-medical relaxation techniques... The important thing is to plan the birth from your heart. Yo better ask yourself "what will make me happy that day? which doctor or midwife? which hospital? which intervention? which routines?
When the day comes you dont have much opportunity to plan anything.If you havent planned anything than you are the slave of the routines. But if you have some plans, at least you will have the chance of birthing in the way you want.
 
Than the question comes? " how will I know what I want?"
Of course the answer is "EDUCATION"
But not an education to dictate something.(Like all the private hospitals do)
An honest education that reminds the mom-to-be the inner strenght inside her,
An education that guides her through her journey,
An education that gives her the power and self confidance,
An education that tells her every advantage and disadvantage of every intervention that she is offered.
 
After that a mom-to-be will have the knowledge to choose the right for her.
 
I dream that everywomen will have the right to stand for a natural birth, or the birth she wants one day.
I dream that everywomen will be satisfied with her birthing experience one day.
 
Best for you all,
 
 
Op.Dr.Hakan Çoker LCCE(Lamaze Certified Childbirth Educator)---HypnoBirthing® Practitioner
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Thanks so much for translating that article - it is so interesting and is certainly provides great ammunitions for all these people who are asking me why I'm not having a Caesarean!!
 
As I told Elizabeth yesterday, I'm really happy to say that I have changed doctors - I am now with Elizabeth's doctor who seems to be keen to let me deliver naturally, although as I said, it's my first birth, so I completely reserve the right to yell for epidural if it all gets too much!  Am I correct in thinking that Gas & air isn't available in Turkey?  Do you think I could buy a paddling pool to take to hospital?!!!  I don't think they'd let me somehow - ah well, maybe with baby no 2 I can travel down to Marmaris to see the wonderful Dr Çoker for a water birth!!
 
Just over 2 weeks to go - wih me luck!
 
Vicky
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From: Famille SOUBELET <soubelet@gmail.com>
To: naturalbirthturkey@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:07:44 AM
Subject: [naturalbirthturkey] Re: Article about c-sections

Dear friends,
Here is a tranlation of the SUPER-INTERESTING article that Rose sent us:
 
Punishment for doctors who perform unnecessary caesareans

"Caesarean" is not safer than a natural birth"

Minister of Health Recep Akda» said that they are going to take important precautions against doctors who lead their patients to a caesarean unnecessarily, mentioning that they'll start the legal, administrative judging process. Recep Akda», who headed the "Transformation in Health Program- Province Department of Health Services Evaluation Meeting", gave guidance about natural birth. Mr. Akda» said that the caesarean rates are quite high and that they as a ministry are doing what is necessary to decrease these rates.

Mr.Akda» spoke about changes that they are making concerning the funds in the Social Security Foundation.  He said "The money spent for caesareans is not going to be higher than the money spent for natural birth".  He added "Most of our citizens want to have a caesarean operation, but having a caesarean operation when it is not needed is a great medical mistake. These parents are heavily harming both their babies and themselves. It increases the risk rate for that birth and the coming possible births.  Caesarean is not a safer than a natural birth".

Mr. Akda» reminded the meeting participants that when you have no other choice, a caesarean is an indispensable medical obligation. He said "We are going to give much attention to this topic. We are going to question the doctors who unnecessarily lead their patients to a caesarean. Legal actions will be taken against them. We are determined about this and our people shouldn't be misled by their doctors; if a woman wants to have a painless birth there are other methods available".

Mr. Akda» described efforts in regulating the closing down of private clinics.  He said "Even if the doctors working in public hospitals work in the private sector as well,  we have new measures for those who serve the Social Security Foundation which have been given to the cabinet. We haven't finished talks with Yök (foundation for higher education), yet I think we are going to put forward the law about this in the next legislative term". He also added that the necessary actions in local districts will be taken soon, too.

Governer Hasan Basri Güzelo»lu, AKP Samsun Congressman Suat Kil¹ç, Mustafa Demir, Ahmet Yeni, Fatih Öztürk, Rector of OMÜ (Samsun University of 19th May) Prof. Dr. Hüseyin Akan,Ministery Of Health undersecretary assistant Dr. Ekrem Atbakan, Province Health Deputy Dr. Mustafa Kasapo»lu, AKP province deputy Ali Akyüz, ministery Office deputies, general managers, local health representatives, and administrators attended the meeting.

translated by A.Citak - A MILLION THANKS!


 
2008/9/16 Rose Deniz <rose.deniz@gmail. com>

Here's a follow up to my previous post about excessive cesareans/
labor training for doctors in Turkey from Haber:

http://www.habertur k.com/haber. asp?id=94164&cat=220&dt=2008/08/29

The title says something like... "Doctors performing unnecessary
cesareans will face retribution/ punishment"





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Thanks so much for translating that article - it is so interesting and is certainly provides great ammunitions for all these people who are asking me why I'm...
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I think the magic in a natural and peacefull birth is RELAXATİON. The body knowing naturally how to conceive the baby, also knows how to deliver the baby. ...
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Hakan - why can't more Turkish doctors think like you? Thank you for sharing your feelings about birth - it is a "miraculously normal" event! You know, with...
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I totally agree with Elizabeth about Dr. Coker. If only we could install him instantly into the Health Ministry! But it's not just the doctors and health...
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Sep 19, 2008
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Hello I'm graduated midwife.and I'm looking your mails. You are wonderful. and I want to say thank you, to the Dr.Hakan Coker. Why sectio??? ıt's simple...
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Hos geldiniz, Esra! Ask any questions thatyou want and don't worry about the language. There are enough here who speak both English and Turkish that language...
Kate Fairleigh
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hello kate, I live in İstanbul. 20 Eylül 2008 Cumartesi 15:17 tarihinde Kate Fairleigh ... hello kate, I live in İstanbul. 20 Eylül 2008 Cumartesi 15:17...
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I would love it if we could persuade Dr Fatma Hanim to let me use your pool - I'm sure she wouldn't let me give birth in it (it being my first birth etc), but...
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Hello all!   I was wondering if any could help me with my questions below?  I am due on 5th Oct so time is running out a little!!   Elizabeth, will you be...
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Victoria, It seems you are committed to staying with Dr. Fatma. If this is the case, then the best way to get your answers would be to ask her what SHE does....
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Thank you Julia, I can say that this a perfect answer to the expectations of mothers. Julia wrote really well, without blaming the system and the doctors. The...
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