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#15934 From: Tom <prostatecure@...>
Date: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:41 pm
Subject: Methyl Jasmonate -- Anti Cancer? Anti Viral? Anti Fungal?
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At least a dozen years ago I started having irritation in what seemed
the entire UTI tract. My PSA then was 4.0. My ejaculate also dried
up. The pain pretty much went away when I went on Q+ last December
and much to my dismay returned when the doctor put me on testosterone
replacement therapy and I stopped taking my 1 cap every couple days of
Q+ in April. It felt like I had been sandblasted inside. I couldn't
hold but a few cc's of urine. The EDTA chelations were difficult. I
kept having to pick up my bag and go to the bathroom. The 50 grams of
Vitamin C IV were even more difficult. I had to stop along the side
of the road on the way back home or to the office about every 10
minutes I was in such pain. The doctor put me on Levaquin. That made
some of the pain go away. After 20 days of antibiotic therapy I
complained that I needed more because I was still in a delicate state.
The doctor had me collect a sterile sample of urine and it came back
negative.

In great pain, was managing the IVs by taking AZO, an over the counter
anesthetic for the UT and lots of trips to the bathroom. My intuition
told me the MJ would help. I started slathering on my scrotum MJ in
DMSO gel. Massive amounts, over and over again. I also upped my
every other day MJ inhalation to 2 X the advised dose of 2 ml.
Immediately the pain began to abate. It's been 5 days. Pretty much
pain free. I can take an entire bag infusion without having to get up
in the middle and go to the bathroom. Strangely enough, my condom
after sex is now suddenly half full from what it was in my college
days. Two weeks ago there were a few drops of semen in my condom.

MJ definitely kills cancer and this may be the result of beating back
the Pca. I might have been suffering Pca symptoms all these years
(that's what my urologist said). MJ also kills fungi and I suspect
some viri. So I'm not completely sure what's causing this. It's not
the other things I'm doing because their schedule is pretty constant.
The only big quick change was lavishing myself with MJ. MJ is not
cheap. But being symptom free and feeling like a man again, being
able to fill a condom, is worth a lot to me.

Tom in Austin



#15935 From: "tinycamera1" <DavidCohen99@...>
Date: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:37 am
Subject: Re: Methyl Jasmonate -- Anti Cancer? Anti Viral? Anti Fungal?
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That sounds like a success story if I've ever heard one.  Glad to hear it!

David

--- In natural_prostate_treatments@yahoogroups.com, Tom <prostatecure@...>
wrote:
>
> At least a dozen years ago I started having irritation in what seemed
> the entire UTI tract. My PSA then was 4.0. My ejaculate also dried
> up. The pain pretty much went away when I went on Q+ last December
> and much to my dismay returned when the doctor put me on testosterone
> replacement therapy and I stopped taking my 1 cap every couple days of
> Q+ in April. It felt like I had been sandblasted inside. I couldn't
> hold but a few cc's of urine. The EDTA chelations were difficult. I
> kept having to pick up my bag and go to the bathroom. The 50 grams of
> Vitamin C IV were even more difficult. I had to stop along the side
> of the road on the way back home or to the office about every 10
> minutes I was in such pain. The doctor put me on Levaquin. That made
> some of the pain go away. After 20 days of antibiotic therapy I
> complained that I needed more because I was still in a delicate state.
> The doctor had me collect a sterile sample of urine and it came back
> negative.
>
> In great pain, was managing the IVs by taking AZO, an over the counter
> anesthetic for the UT and lots of trips to the bathroom. My intuition
> told me the MJ would help. I started slathering on my scrotum MJ in
> DMSO gel. Massive amounts, over and over again. I also upped my
> every other day MJ inhalation to 2 X the advised dose of 2 ml.
> Immediately the pain began to abate. It's been 5 days. Pretty much
> pain free. I can take an entire bag infusion without having to get up
> in the middle and go to the bathroom. Strangely enough, my condom
> after sex is now suddenly half full from what it was in my college
> days. Two weeks ago there were a few drops of semen in my condom.
>
> MJ definitely kills cancer and this may be the result of beating back
> the Pca. I might have been suffering Pca symptoms all these years
> (that's what my urologist said). MJ also kills fungi and I suspect
> some viri. So I'm not completely sure what's causing this. It's not
> the other things I'm doing because their schedule is pretty constant.
> The only big quick change was lavishing myself with MJ. MJ is not
> cheap. But being symptom free and feeling like a man again, being
> able to fill a condom, is worth a lot to me.
>
> Tom in Austin
>





#15938 From: steeleglas <steeleglas@...>
Date: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:21 pm
Subject: Methyl Jasmonate -- Anti Cancer? Anti Viral? Anti Fungal?
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Tom
Congratulations on your great results.

When were you diagnosed with PCa and with what Gleason score? Also what was your PSA at the time?
Why did your MD put you on testosterone replacement therapy?
Why did you discontinue Q+?
What is your current PSA?
Since the MJ has been so effective do you feel that the IV chelation and IV vitamin C you are undergoing are necessary?

Ed Brenner
DOB 10/30/26  Dx 5/98  bPSA 4.8  Gl 3+4 (confirmed by Oppenheimer)  Aneuoploid   No conventional treatment



Methyl Jasmonate -- Anti Cancer? Anti Viral? Anti Fungal?

Posted by: "Tom" prostatecure@...   prostatecure

Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:00 pm (PDT)



At least a dozen years ago I started having irritation in what seemed
the entire UTI tract. My PSA then was 4.0. My ejaculate also dried
up. The pain pretty much went away when I went on Q+ last December
and much to my dismay returned when the doctor put me on testosterone
replacement therapy and I stopped taking my 1 cap every couple days of
Q+ in April. It felt like I had been sandblasted inside. I couldn't
hold but a few cc's of urine. The EDTA chelations were difficult. I
kept having to pick up my bag and go to the bathroom. The 50 grams of
Vitamin C IV were even more difficult. I had to stop along the side
of the road on the way back home or to the office about every 10
minutes I was in such pain. The doctor put me on Levaquin. That made
some of the pain go away. After 20 days of antibiotic therapy I
complained that I needed more because I was still in a delicate state.
The doctor had me collect a sterile sample of urine and it came back
negative.

In great pain, was managing the IVs by taking AZO, an over the counter
anesthetic for the UT and lots of trips to the bathroom. My intuition
told me the MJ would help. I started slathering on my scrotum MJ in
DMSO gel. Massive amounts, over and over again. I also upped my
every other day MJ inhalation to 2 X the advised dose of 2 ml.
Immediately the pain began to abate. It's been 5 days. Pretty much
pain free. I can take an entire bag infusion without having to get up
in the middle and go to the bathroom. Strangely enough, my condom
after sex is now suddenly half full from what it was in my college
days. Two weeks ago there were a few drops of semen in my condom.

MJ definitely kills cancer and this may be the result of beating back
the Pca. I might have been suffering Pca symptoms all these years
(that's what my urologist said). MJ also kills fungi and I suspect
some viri. So I'm not completely sure what's causing this. It's not
the other things I'm doing because their schedule is pretty constant.
The only big quick change was lavishing myself with MJ. MJ is not
cheap. But being symptom free and feeling like a man again, being
able to fill a condom, is worth a lot to me.

Tom in Austin
--

 


#15941 From: Tom <prostatecure@...>
Date: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:55 pm
Subject: Re: [NTPC Yahoo Group] Methyl Jasmonate -- Anti Cancer? Anti Viral? Anti Fungal?
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On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:21 AM, steeleglas<steeleglas@...> wrote:
>
>
> Tom
> Congratulations on your great results.
>
> When were you diagnosed with PCa and with what Gleason score? Also what was
> your PSA at the time?

December 12, 2008.  Gleason 7.  PSA 14, up from 4 about a decade before.

> Why did your MD put you on testosterone replacement therapy?

He's a noted naturopathic MD.  He and I both read salient portions of BARNES & NOBLE - Testosterone for Life by Abraham Morgentaler.  T does is not gasoline you pour on the fire of PCA.  T just brings back to life what ADT made dormant.  He said part of his health protocol is to bring back T while keeping E2 and DHT under control.  He's not convinced as Morgentaler that low T and high E2/DHT help cause Pca to reveal itself.

> Why did you discontinue Q+?

Stephen Martin, Ph.D., my doctor and I agreed that if I was going to kill some Pca with the MJ protocol and my doctor's protocol, it had better act like cancer.  400 mg/dL serum Vitamin C kills cancer cells because of the lack of protection cancer cells have from oxidative stress.  I maintain the reason Ron didn't see any progress with MJ is that he was on ADT at the time.  Now he's using Q+ and MJ.  Still in our opinion, not a way to kill Pca.  I made sure my T was high enough, my E2 and DHT low enough before stopping the Q+ because it appears stopping ADT in low T, high E2 and DHT environment turns some of the Pca cells androgen independent.

> What is your current PSA?

Don't know.  In mid March, 2009 it was 0.1 but I was on Q+.  I've put off having my PSA tested because 1) I'm enjoying having sex  2) There was the matter of the great pain, which if a fungus (unlikely, as I've had anti-fungal courses before), would elevate my PSA  3) My PSA was expected to return once I got off the Q+ and additionally started the T 4) I'm undergoing a pre-paid protocol of 30 EDTA and 30 Vitamin C drips.  Officially, I'm really just ending my first 3 months of MJ, since before I was on Q+ with the MJ.  So I figured why bother getting myself confused by getting a PSA in the middle of all of this?

Yes, cop out.  No, not a cop out.  I never claimed that I've smitten my Pca and my symptoms have gone away and as a result my semen has returned.  I said that MJ was also an anti-viral and anti-fungal.  I'm not ruling out having killed a decade old infection which went undetected with the MJ.

My AMAS result was very low.  I know, up to 7% false negatives.  For now, I'm keeping away from saliva, blood and urine tests until my course is over in about 6 weeks.  Except if the doctor wants to verify my Vitamin C serum level.


> Since the MJ has been so effective do you feel that the IV chelation and IV
> vitamin C you are undergoing are necessary?

The doctor maintains that my cure, if I have one, will come out of the chelation and getting my over all health balanced.  His experience is that cancer is an immunity problem.  He's had many a patient who've gotten over one cancer only to get another some years down the road.   I like how I'm feeling with the heavy metals leaving and I agree with him.

I think the Vitamin C is very important, as does Stephen Martin.  His protocol is the synergy of a bunch of immune, oxidative and genetic signals.  The Vitamin C fits right in.  Today I get my first 75 grams of Vitamin C and I'm preparing by slathering my scrotum with MJ laced DMSO.  My doctor sees the Vitamin C as a temporary way to kill some cancer cells and to stimulate the immune system.  I agree.

I'm waiting for Immpower to arrive.  It looks like just the thing I need to add to the mix of immune, oxidative and genetic signals.   I asked Steve Martin what happens after 3 months.  "Heck if I know", was his response.  He kind of hopes the immune system will take over.  That's where the chelation and Vitamin C comes in.

I wanted a resolution or at least someone to hold my hand while I dealt with the Pca.  I happened to have lucked upon a doctor who adds value.  I'll take the added value.

We've read the accounts of people who believed they had cured their Pca with a low fat diet or just being on Q+ long enough so they went off it. They met with tragic, painful ends.  I just don't read cancer as a simple thing and am so put off by people who tell me they have the cure with a single item, I'm going at my Pca with everything.  As the book says, cancer might be a fungus.  Leave a tank car of gasoline or a pile of explosives in the sun.  Yes, heat causes fire and explosions.  But putting the fire or explosion in the shade doesn't reverse the process.   

Everything I'm doing now might prove to be an exercise in blowing money and futility.  But then going for one's 2nd or 3rd HIFU cost some real money. 

I have the Q+ standing by just in case.  I'll feel better from having gotten the lead, mercury, aluminum, tungsten, uranium and other metals out of my body and from having known I tried what I believed was the best on the market to fight my Pca at the time.


YMMV and definitely don't do what I do.

Tom in Austin


>
> Ed Brenner


#15949 From: Tom <prostatecure@...>
Date: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: [NTPC Yahoo Group] Methyl Jasmonate -- Anti Cancer? Anti Viral? Anti Fungal?
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Update on this.

After posting, I realized I should have proofed a lot more. In some
places it's ambiguous, like whether my doctor agrees with the book or
disagrees with it. He agrees with it, feeling that low T with high E2
and DHT encourage PCA to reveal itself. As the author reports,
there's a lot more concealed PCA than we imagined.

Yesterday I got my increased Vitamin C. I got 75 grams as fast as it
could flow into me. It was more like 75 grams in 2 hours than 75
grams in 75 minutes or less. My doctor knew all about the work being
done in hospitals and clinics in Kansas. He told me he'd like to
finish out his practice without complaints from the medical board. He
said he's offering Vitamin C and EDTA to help make his patients
healthier. He's not fighting cancer.

Every doctor I've met in Texas is in terror of the Board even if they're GPs.

I opted out of getting my serum C checked again with the higher dose
delivered more quickly. It is what it is.

Tom in Austin



 
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