Yes, Vitamin D works big time. That could be the trick.
David
--- In natural_prostate_treatments@yahoogroups.com, Donald Lytton <dhlytton@...>
wrote:
>
> David: I'm still using the same Medpro Prostasol capsules which I bought
> about 3 years ago. The only new products that I'm taking are Vitamin D and
> Triveratrol which may be causing the decrease in PSA. Don
>
> From: "tinycamera1" <DavidCohen99@...>
> Reply-To: natural_prostate_treatments@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:30:15 -0000
> To: natural_prostate_treatments@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NTPC Yahoo Group] resveratrol produces longevity and can kill
> cancer (??) - (longevinex)
>
>
>
>
>
> Donald:
>
> I had the same experience. The new QP+ seems to be 3 times more potent. I
> only take one every couple weeks.
>
> David
>
> --- In natural_prostate_treatments@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:natural_prostate_treatments%40yahoogroups.com> , Donald Lytton
> <dhlytton@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shel. Your e-mail reminded me of something.
> >
> > I posted this e mail 12/9/08.
> >
> > "Hi : I had a prostatectomy in 1991 and they didn't get all the cancer out.
> > I started on PC Spes when it came out and now I'm on Prostasol from Medpro.
> > My strategy is to let my PSA drift slightly up to keep my testostrone at a
> > reasonable amount ( betwwen 500 and 600).
> >
> > Last spring my PSA was 1.1 on 5 to 6 Prostasol capsules per week. I stayed
> > on this amount and expected my PSA to drift up to 1.3 to 1.5. Much to my
> > surprise, my Psa, taken on Nov. 26, 2008 was undetectable. I went back to
> > the lab to check my testosterone and Vitamin D. My testosterone was only 38
> > and my Vitamin D was 73.9 ng/ml. I take 2000IUs of Vit. D per day.
> >
> > It didn't make any sense that my testosterone should be so low on the same
> > dosage of Prostasol. It's possible that since I'm 78 I'm producing less
> > testerone.
> >
> > I'm only going to take 2 prostasol capsules per week and see what happens in
> > 3 months.
> >
> > If anyone has an explanation, I'd love to hear it. Don Lytton"
> >
> > Since then, I've dropped it to two per week and then one per week and it is
> > still undetectable. I'm now taking one capsule evry other week and I'll
> > report the results in 2 months.
> >
> > I thought it might be the Vitamin D, as I had been taking Longevinex for
> > about a year earlier with no unusual results. But about the middle of
> > September 2008 ( 2 months before my Nov 26 PSA test), I started taking a
> > supplement called Triveratrol Plus sold by Dr. Julian Whitaker.
> >
> > Each capsule contains 150mg Aloe Vera extract, 100mg tumeric extract, 50mg
> > trans resveratrol extract from Japanese knotwood root and 40 mg red wine
> > polyphenols from grapes. I take two per day.
> >
> > I have no idea whether it's the Triveratrol Plus that's causing my
> > undetectable PSA, or maybe it's combination with Vit D. Or it could be a
> > fluke. Unfortunately, you can't prove anything with one person's data. I
> > thought I'd throw this information into the mix. Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: shel litt <shellitt@>
> > Reply-To: natural_prostate_treatments@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:natural_prostate_treatments%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 06:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: hope <HOPE-list@yahoogroups.com <mailto:HOPE-list%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > Cc: PC-ACT@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PC-ACT%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [NTPC Yahoo Group] resveratrol produces longevity and can kill
> > cancer (??) - (longevinex)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone here tried Longevinex? (i was told by someone long ago that Dr
> > Myers recommends it, but cannot recall context.)
> >
> > -Shel
> >
> > Subject: Dose determines whether resveratrol
> > produces longevity or kills cancer
> > All followers of resveratrol science take note! In
> > the study abstract below, researchers describe how
> > resveratrol affects the cell cycle, that is,
> > cellular events leading to its division and
> > duplication (replication). The S-phase (synthesis
> > phase) of the cell cycle is when DNA synthesis or
> > replication occurs.
> >
> > In modest doses, resveratrol causes the S-phase cell
> > cycle to proceed in slow gear, giving more time for
> > DNA to be repaired, producing longevity. In mega-
> > doses, resveratrol accelerates the S-phase cell
> > cycle and increases cellular death, thus inducing
> > mutated tumor cells to die (apoptosis).
> >
> > Advice to consume mega-dose resveratrol (more than
> > 300 mg) appears to be ill advised. Other studies
> > confirm that mega-dose resveratrol (as little as 360
> > milligrams for a 160 lb human) shortened the lives
> > of laboratory animals on a standard calorie diet.
> >
> > The widespread false notion that the equivalent of
> > 1000 glasses of red wine is needed to produce the
> > same effect as pure resveratrol in the laboratory
> > should be dismissed. It has been shown that 3-5
> > glasses of red wine, providing 180-300 mg of daily
> > polyphenolic molecules (resveratrol, quercetin,
> > ferulic acid, malvidin, catechin, kaempferol, gallic
> > acid) produces unusual health and longevity in
> > French wine-drinking populations. Copyright 2009
> > Bill Sardi, Resveratrol Partners LLC
> >
> > For the full text of this report, email Bill Sardi at
> > bsardi@ <http://us.mc343.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bsardi@>
> >
> >
> > British Journal Pharmacology 2009 Jun 25. [Epub
> > ahead of print]
> >
> >
> >
> > Induction of a reversible, non-cytotoxic S-phase
> > delay by resveratrol: implications for a mechanism
> > of lifespan prolongation and cancer protection.
> > Zhou R, Fukui M, Choi HJ Zhu BT.
> > Department of Pharmacology, Toxicology and
> > Therapeutics, School of Medicine, University of
> > Kansas Medical Center, Kansas City, KS, USA.
> >
> > Background and purpose: Resveratrol (RES) has been
> > shown to prolong lifespan and prevent cancer
> > formation. At present, the precise cellular
> > mechanisms of RES actions are still not clearly
> > understood, and this is the focus of this study.
> > Experimental approach: Using human hepatocellular
> > carcinoma-derived HepG2 cells as a model, we studied
> > RES-induced changes in cell growth, cell cycle
> > progression and apoptosis (death). Key results:
> >
> > RES at lower concentrations induced a strong but
> > reversible S-phase delay and mild DNA synthesis
> > inhibition, yet without causing apoptotic or
> > necrotic cell death.
> > At high concentrations, RES induced apoptosis (cell
> > death), which is mainly mediated by the
> > mitochondrial pathway.
> > Overall, RES was a relatively weak apoptotic agent.
> > Mechanistically, MEK inhibition was identified as an
> > important early signalling event for RES-induced
> > apoptosis. In comparison, activation of CDK2 and
> > checkpoint kinase 2, and inhibition of
> > phosphatidylinositol 3'-kinase/Akt signalling
> > pathway contributed to the induction by RES of a
> > reversible, non-cytotoxic S-phase delay. Conclusion
> > and implications: It is hypothesized that the
> > induction of a non-cytotoxic S-phase delay may
> > represent a useful mechanistic strategy for lifespan
> > prolongation and cancer prevention. When cell cycles
> > are selectively slowed down in the S phase, it would
> > cumulatively increase the total lifespan of an
> > organism if the total numbers of cell divisions of a
> > given organism are assumed to remain basically
> > constant. Likewise, when cells proceed through the
> > cell cycles at a reduced pace during DNA
> > replication, it may allow cells more time to repair
> > the damaged DNA, and thereby reduce the chances for
> > mutagenesis and tumor initiation.
> >
> >
> >
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