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Re: [NTPC Yahoo Group] Clint's Incomplete History

Clint,

You might take a look at John McDougall's book, MAXIMUM WEIGHT LOSS
(1995). This is similar to the Dean Ornish diet, but more restrictive --
keeping total fat to about 10% of dietary intake. It is working for me.
What is more important is what this diet is doing to my lipid numbers.
In the past six months my triglycerides have dropped 42% (from 150 to
87). I weighed 242 lbs when I started chemotherapy on 9/7/06, which I
terminated on Nov. 16, 2006. My weight at the moment is 205 lbs, with a
target goal of 175 lbs be the end of 2008.

Duane Christensen



Clint Bishop wrote:
> I have the book by Dean Ornish but we have just started on a NutriSystem
> diet to loose weight. I would like to go from my current weight of 220 to
> at least 170 (155 or 160 would be nice). Hopefully, this will also help
> keep the Pca in check.
> Anybody else done the NutriSystem thing?
> Clint
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duane Christensen" <dlc@...>
> To: <natural_prostate_treatments@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [NTPC Yahoo Group] Clint's Incomplete History
>
>
>
>> Clint,
>>
>> From what you said earlier, I think you probably went on the so-called
>> *ultimate fast* in conjunction with your vegetarian diet. I have been
>> following DR. DEAN ORNISH'S PROGRAM FOR REVERSING HEART DISEASE (1996),
>> which I strongly recommend for your reading. I weighed in at 205 lbs
>> this morning, which means I have lost 38 lbs since the time I started
>> androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) for prostate cancer on Sept. 7, 2006.
>> I have another 30 lbs to go to get where I should be in terms of weight.
>>
>> Prostate cancer is a strange disease in that there are often no symptoms
>> at all. The only reason I went in to get my PSA checked in 2000 and
>> again in 2006, was my response to the fact that two of my brothers had
>> just had their prostates removed surgically because of prostate cancer.
>> I had a biopsy each time -- the first was negative and the second
>> positive. I wish that I had done my homework and studied the matter in
>> depth years ago. If I had done so, I would have made some very different
>> choices.
>>
>> Duane Christensen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Clint Bishop wrote:
>>
>>> Duane,
>>> I was 51 when diagnosed with prostate cancer. The first that I knew of
>>> it was when the VA did a PSA test and my PSA was 6.9. I went on a
>>> vegetarian diet immediately and my weight, cholesterol and PSA dropped
>>> significantly. I have not stuck with that regimen throughout my ordeal
>>> and my weight is up to a little over 200 now. We are going to start a
>>> Nutri-System diet next week for two months and see where our weight is at
>>> the end of that time. I will also check my PSA next month to see if it
>>> has stayed below 4.0, but I feel fine other than the weight gain.
>>> Clint
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>




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Clint You are being mysterious and very very incomplete. What about everything that has happened since July '99. Are you still on a vegetarian diet. If not...
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Dec 19, 2007
2:04 pm

Ed, I've got the entire story on my computer, but I was trying to keep my email short. Don't you think that people would be bored by my complete history?? On...
Clint Bishop
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Dec 20, 2007
1:12 am

Ed, Here is a complete copy of my PSA history. I am not an accountant, so it is a little sloppy, Clint PSA, Cholesterol & diet since April 15, 1999 Date:...
Clint Bishop
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Dec 30, 2007
12:00 am

Clint, Thank you for taking the time to put together this information, which I personally find to be extremely useful. What was your age at the time you were...
Duane Christensen
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Dec 30, 2007
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Duane, I was 51 when diagnosed with prostate cancer. The first that I knew of it was when the VA did a PSA test and my PSA was 6.9. I went on a vegetarian...
Clint Bishop
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Dec 30, 2007
10:49 pm

Clint, From what you said earlier, I think you probably went on the so-called *ultimate fast* in conjunction with your vegetarian diet. I have been following...
Duane Christensen
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Dec 31, 2007
3:43 am

Duane Duane You are correct that Honvan is a synthetic estrogen and that PC Spes had an estrogenic effect although there was an issue as to whether PC Spes...
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Dec 30, 2007
2:30 pm

Ed, Thank you for this information on Honvan and PC-Spes. I continue to follow the discussion of those in the group who have chosen to go this route, including...
Duane Christensen
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Dec 30, 2007
10:48 pm

I have the book by Dean Ornish but we have just started on a NutriSystem diet to loose weight. I would like to go from my current weight of 220 to at least...
Clint Bishop
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Jan 5, 2008
6:40 pm

Clint, You might take a look at John McDougall's book, MAXIMUM WEIGHT LOSS (1995). This is similar to the Dean Ornish diet, but more restrictive -- keeping...
Duane Christensen
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Jan 5, 2008
8:38 pm

Duane, My triglycerides on my last blood test were 88 and all of my cholesterol numbers were also very good. The only BAD number that I have is when I step on...
Clint Bishop
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Jan 6, 2008
5:55 pm

Hi Clint! It's great that your blood lipid numbers are already where you want them, even if you a bit overweight. You are a fortunate person, but many of us...
Duane Christensen
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Jan 7, 2008
3:37 am

Hi Clint, I haven't done Nutrisystem, but i have used the BioLean system. I've lost over 20 pounds and have never felt better. I also use a product called...
John Polzer
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Jan 6, 2008
11:58 pm

Thanks for the info, John, but at $60/bottle I cannot afford Masculine. I can make my Honvan mixture for less than $5/60 pills and it holds my PSA less than...
Clint Bishop
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