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Re: [NN] Racoon, anyone?

Michael-

> IIRC, pigs have been fed both coconut and potatoes but they get too
> lean as a result. Pork today, unlike the pork of my childhood, is far
> too lean IMO (except for one cut), and I can barely even recognize it
> taste wise. So my guess is that you will most definitely have to
> commission this study :-)

I can see coconut having that effect (though I seem to recall reading
that Sally buys pork from a farmer who feeds coconut to his pigs; I'd
love to know which one!) but potatoes? Why would potatoes have a
slimming effect? Or is it just a relative effect due to the lack of
metabolism-depressing PUFA? Even with that, they're practically pure
starch...

-Paul

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I've eaten raccoon a few times when I was a child. My dad (a Depression baby, he likes to say) cooked it on the barbecue pit. I remember it was good. More...
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Michael- ... Hmm, interesting. I wonder what the lipid profile of raccoon meat tends to be like. -Paul [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Jan 14, 2009
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... Paul, funny you should ask. It just so happens that the USDA has nutrient data for raccoon: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ You do have to...
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Jan 15, 2009
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Bryan, ... Well thanks for doing the legwork for me in response to Paul's question and for correcting my grammar :-) How is the weight loss going by the way? I...
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... Michael, doing the 18/6 fast/eat IF worked quite well for me, as I lost almost 20 pounds over 5 months from July to December. My weight has stabilized...
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Jan 16, 2009
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Bryan- Interesting. Not being a ruminant, I suppose raccoons deposit PUFA in proportion to the PUFA in their diets, which could well vary widely. On a related...
Paul Idol
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Jan 21, 2009
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Paul, ... IIRC, pigs have been fed both coconut and potatoes but they get too lean as a result. Pork today, unlike the pork of my childhood, is far too lean...
Michael
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Jan 21, 2009
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Michael- ... I can see coconut having that effect (though I seem to recall reading that Sally buys pork from a farmer who feeds coconut to his pigs; I'd love...
Paul Idol
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Jan 22, 2009
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Paul, ... Both I would think. High carb low fat, at least in humans, can be quite slimming if you are not suffering from metabolic syndrome and aren't...
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Michael- ... In general, though, being overweight goes hand in hand with some measure of metabolic syndrome, and I'm not sure how much functional difference...
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Paul, ... Right. I'm not sure why you would think I disagree, probably because I didn't phrase my previous post clearly enough. ... Well the evidence...
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.> Well the evidence apparently suggests there is quite a bit of ... There was an interesting brief comment in a discussion that it's the volume of fructose...
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... Connie, that's my feeling too. Excess fructose, especially in conjunction with excess linoleic acid are bad news for long-term health. Bryan...
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Bryan, ... This is where I think the concept of seasonality is important. Even in tropical lands where fruit is eaten as part of a high carb diet, fruit is...
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Trying to post this again. Blues music and racoons... http://metrotimes.com/culture/story.asp?id=13618...
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... LOL! I got them raccoon blues! I guess if he's 69 and been eating raccoons all his life they can't be too bad, despite the higher PUFA than some other...
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Michael- ... I should've been more clear, but I did think it was obvious from the context that what I meant was that I don't think it matters all that much...
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Paul, ... Right, but your original comment suggests that a diet high in pure starch should lead to weight gain. So when I say different carbohydrate forms I'm...
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... Paul, the USDA also has data on wild boar. Cooked, it has 3.6% of calories as PUFA and 24.6% of calories as fat. That's a little more lean than cooked...
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Bryan- ... Yeah, but I think the PUFA content of wild boar is low mainly because wild boar is lean, not because the PUFA fraction of the total fat in wild boar...
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... Paul, that's a good point. PUFA as a percent of total fat is actually lower in commercial pork than in wild boar. ... That makes good sense. Have studies...
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... as ... as...
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