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Re: [NN] just sent e-mail to Oprah

I hate the narrow mindedness of the mass culture. They always want a quick fix
to their problems rather than to read from the individuals who know this stuff
through and through. I was looking for something definitive and found Sally
Fallon, Mary Enig, and then Weston A. Price and then others. There have always
been massive limitations to many of the authors I've read beforehand. Always
introducing poor science and saying "that's all you need to do". So the
individual will just stop there and stop questioning things. Then the same
cycle of problems manifest in a different way. That's the reason why I don't
think she will gain that much interest or even gain the right type of deserved
interest even if she is featured. I genuinely like what WAPF represents. It's
my theory, but it could hurt the reputation as the EatFatLoseFat will become
another fad. It will be just another "one of those fad diets". What it will do
is help many of it's
supporters as perhaps professionals that support WAPF and the traditional ways
will get more clients. Which is good. I think the true values that we'd like
to instill on the mass media will be overlooked. I don't know if I'm being
overly skeptical about the outcome or too optimistic of the meaning of it. I
hate the fact that everything is in a pill now and find out you get more balance
from natural wholesome sources. My reality is so artificial. So many people
are unaware and exposed to all these modern poisons. I feel if we don't become
extinct in the next decade it will happen in sometime during this century as
we're all being lead more and more astray by our "shortcuts" of modern society..

I know it represents traditional ways and that's probably one of the reasons
Oprah may reject it. We live in a fast paced society and many people just do
not have time to slow down. We live in hectic times. There are still many good
points, like raw milk and teaching just how warped our modern views can be, how
it's being manipulated. How we're being mislead about proper fat sources and
other various political issues. That's definately a big issue. I theorize one
bad outcome could be that if raw dairy is legalized many of the farmers that
aren't capable of grasping the concept of wholesome farming will be forced to
push poor quality perhaps dangerous raw milk. That will also make the WAPF
movement look bad. I would definately like these subjects be thoroughly looked
into by Oprah and WAPF advocates such as Sally Fallon, Mary Enig, Chris
Masterjohn, etc. Naw, it would just be a shallow stint.

Kinda more like ramblings, oh well.

Thank you,
Daniel Holt

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 13, 2009, at 6:32 AM, "paulsonntagericson" <paulsonntagericson@...>
wrote:

Someone should send her "Eat Fat, Lose Fat". I would guess she gets
tons of books and has a team to screen them. I think she's at a point
now where she might consider alternatives to the old ways she's been
following that have failed her up to this point.

Who are the two "experts" you are referring to? (I only follow Oprah
on the covers of gossip magazines while I wait in line at the store)

Cheers,

Paul

--- In native-nutrition@yahoogroups.com, Michael <slethnobotanist@...>
wrote:
>
> Lisa,
>
> > Does this drive anyone else crazy as well? I don't watch much tv or
> > read much mainstream material, but when I see Oprah advocating a low
> > fat diet to her millions of viewers after repeated attempts herself to
> > lose weight and stay healthy, I get so frustrated! Wouldn't it be
> > great if Oprah would at least look at the WAPF site? This is the
> > second e-mail I have sent her. I am hoping someone on her team at
> > least takes a look. Wow, it could be so life changing for not only
> > Oprah, but for so many people. I wonder if it's even possible at this
> > stage for her to recommend a WAPF diet to her viewers?
>
> What does Oprah weigh these days, two fidy? And a goiter problem to
> boot. Sadly she is surrounded by and taking advice from two "gurus"
> who would find the WAPF site sacrilegious.
>
> Michael
> --
> "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
> signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are
> not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is
> not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers,
> the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children…. Under the
> cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of
> iron."
>
> ~ Dwight Eisenhower
>





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Paul, ... That would be Dr. Oz and Bob Greene, her trainer. Michael -- "We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before, and...
Michael
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I hate the narrow mindedness of the mass culture. They always want a quick fix to their problems rather than to read from the individuals who know this stuff...
Daniel Holt
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Jan 14, 2009
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hadn't really thought of it in this way. THanks, Daniel. There is the perfect time and place for everything and I wouldn't want this movement to be compromised...
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okay, just realized they are not censoring me. i was not supposed to post web site addresses in my message so i took them out and resent. lisa ... ...
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... Every single diet where I've heard from the people who love that diet, someone will say, "if only Oprah would do this one." I've heard this for Fat Flush,...
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Connie, ... This is her new years plan: http://www.oprah.com/media/20081030_tows_newplan IMO, just setting herself and millions of viewers up for failure. The ...
Michael
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... I'm with you Michael, but sadly this regime might work for her for a while, until the next time she quits the awfulness of it all. Low calorie low fat does...
cbrown2008
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Jan 15, 2009
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Connie ... If she doesn't yet have insulin or other hormonal issues, then I have a whole different suggestion for her below. ... Yeah, I was really surprised...
Michael
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I would love to see a plan like yours be followed so publicly. Specially the part about honoring forbears. That would be so cool. And I would also love the...
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Connie, ... I figure that is the only way you would even have a chance of remotely getting a hearing, because such an approach would certainly reverberate...
Michael
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... Harkening back to your earlier comment about 24 hour soaking not being enough. Do you know if the earlier packaging of oatmeal talked about longer...
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... I don't recall. If I were to guess I would probably say no. Lets see if I can dig it up again. Michael -- "We have tried spending money. We are spending...
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... Connie, I've read that oats don't have enough phytase to counteract very much of the phytate, so soaking alone won't get rid of much of it with oats. ...
Bryan
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... Thanks, Bryan. She uses wheat which I want to avoid. I wonder if going past soaking to sprouting would be an answer. Connie...
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... Connie, I skimmed through Amanda's newsletters that I saved, and she says that sprouting grains and making sourdough breads with fresh grains are the most...
Bryan
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Bryan, ... At best it appears to get 98% of the gluten, and that only with the right strains, and there are still other issues with wheat that are not overcome...
Michael
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more info on fermented bread - Bread Dread: Are you Really Gluten Intolerant? http://tinyurl.com/38lpwe ... ...
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... I read that link awhile ago, and there are some genuine nuggets, especially in the comment section. I have posted below one of the comments on how to...
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Bryan, ... Yes you are right and I should have been clearer that IIRC it wasn't just soaking that made the oatmeal gruel/porridge nutritionally viable. I...
Michael
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so is there a gluten free way to properly prepare oats? lisa ... oats....
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you can use some buckwheat flour for soaking with the oats. ... =======================================================...
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Where did you get the info on phytase content in buckwheat? About a year ago I searched for a research document with the phytase content of most grains and...
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I don't know how much phytase is in buckwheat but here is a study using it http://tinyurl.com/brm67b ... ...
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I'd subscribe ;)...
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That's what I like about NT and the particular movement inspired by Weston A. Price. It's not a fad diet and it is based on whole food eating. No shortcuts....
Daniel Holt
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Jan 14, 2009
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here's a new article about Oprah and her thyroid problems http://www.naturalnews.com/025325.html...
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Daniel, ... Keep in mind the inspiration of Weston Price goes far beyond the Weston A. Price Foundation. The WAPF is simply one data point in a much larger...
Michael
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Daniel- You said with the WAPF >>Everything is thought out and backed up by research>> which is not true. There is much about breastfeeding that is wrong on...
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Desh, ... Ouch! Clearly you aren't a WAPF chapter leader, LOL! Michael -- It doesn't matter how many people don't get it. What matters is how many people do....
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-curious about what you mean about ignoring food chemical intolerances? lisa - In native-nutrition@yahoogroups.com, De Bell-Frantz <deshabell@...> ... good ......
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